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Julianus
12-20-2005, 05:14 AM
Is there any wireless Media Extender that SageTV supports?

blade
12-20-2005, 05:22 AM
The MVP is the only extender Sage currently supports. A wireless MVP is supposedly going to be released early in 06.

Narflex
12-20-2005, 09:30 AM
You could always use a wireless game adapter to convert the wired connection to wireless.

bobvoeh
12-28-2005, 12:43 PM
I have not read good things about the game adapters as they are not working well with the BOOTP and DHCP needed by the MVP. Since they are actually cheaper than the game adapters, I have two Linksys wrt54gs routers and setup a wireless bridge. BOOTP and DHCP work fine, MVP playback is flawless.

tybris
12-29-2005, 01:18 PM
I have not read good things about the game adapters as they are not working well with the BOOTP and DHCP needed by the MVP. Since they are actually cheaper than the game adapters, I have two Linksys wrt54gs routers and setup a wireless bridge. BOOTP and DHCP work fine, MVP playback is flawless.
I have a similar setup with 2 WRT54G routers in WDS mode.

Router A is connected to my cable modem
Router B is near my TV
MediaMVP is connected by wire to Router B
Server has a wireless card

Works like a charm.

bobvoeh
12-29-2005, 04:20 PM
I have a similar setup with 2 WRT54G routers in WDS mode.

Router A is connected to my cable modem
Router B is near my TV
MediaMVP is connected by wire to Router B
Server has a wireless card

Works like a charm.

Only difference with my setup is the server is hardwired to Router A. Everything else the same. WDS Rocks !!!

tangfj
01-15-2006, 10:55 PM
Can someone elaborate on having a two router setup? I'm not quite clear on how router 1 connects to router 2?? Thanks in advance.

tlimon
01-16-2006, 08:33 AM
Just announced at the CES - Wireless version!

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/hauppage-mediamvp-is-a-champ-148817.php

http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20060105210907159

aperry
01-16-2006, 09:54 AM
You could always use a wireless game adapter to convert the wired connection to wireless.
Another option (if you have or can get one) is to configure a Linksys WRT54G to operate as a wireless bridge. You have to load an alternate firmware to get it to work, but it works great! I'm using this type of a configuration myself...

Here's a link to a thread that describes exactly what you need to do.

WRT54G as Bridge (http://forums.anandtech.com/textthread.aspx?catid=36&threadid=1513386)

Stuntman
01-23-2006, 12:07 AM
You could always use a wireless game adapter to convert the wired connection to wireless.
This is what I use and have no real issues with it now thanks to the improvents in the latest beta.. Works really well..

Netgear game adapter is the one I use

joe123
01-25-2006, 10:54 AM
Wireless MVP's are here:

http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=ces_2006_3

I wonder how much they will cost?

flloyd
01-25-2006, 01:50 PM
$150 according to Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/16/hauppauges-wireless-mediamvp-pumps-media-over-wifi/)

walts81
01-25-2006, 02:00 PM
According to the pictures on HTPCnews, the wireless MVP not only sports wireless, but it also has SPDIF out!:clap:

joe123
01-25-2006, 03:51 PM
Looking at the back of the Wireless MVP http://www.htpcnews.com/images/CES_shots/IMG_1005.jpg

What is the ethernet jack for?

gplasky
01-25-2006, 05:11 PM
In case you want to do wired. Wired would still be a faster connection than wireless.

Gerry

cmaffia
01-27-2006, 11:43 AM
I gave up on my wireless game adapter solution after 1 year.
Performance with wireless got worse with 4.0 and built in MVP support.
Broke down and drilled holes to my daughters room to get a cat-5 cable in her room.

Bottom line.. DON'T BOTHER with wireless MVP setup.. Totally unreliable

I have not read good things about the game adapters as they are not working well with the BOOTP and DHCP needed by the MVP. Since they are actually cheaper than the game adapters, I have two Linksys wrt54gs routers and setup a wireless bridge. BOOTP and DHCP work fine, MVP playback is flawless.

Stuntman
01-27-2006, 11:52 AM
I gave up on my wireless game adapter solution after 1 year.
Performance with wireless got worse with 4.0 and built in MVP support.
Broke down and drilled holes to my daughters room to get a cat-5 cable in her room.

Bottom line.. DON'T BOTHER with wireless MVP setup.. Totally unreliable
That kind of blanket statement isn't fair to forum readers.. I have a netgear game adapter that I have been running for a year now.. I initially used Matt's plugin with no problems.. then upgraded to the latest Sage.. that introduced some issues, but those issues were resolved in the lastest Beta Build. The wireless now works perfectly for me.. I go through 2 walls (1 is an exterior Stucco wall) and still get about 80% of the signal.. I run about 45mb at the MVP.. I can stream DVD standard quality (Haven't tried any higher, so that may work as well)...

I recommend these to anybody who doesn't want to put holes in the house and run cable.

Just remember not to put too many devices on the wireless network.. try to go 'G' only and make sure you don't have the MVP too far from the wireless router.

Wired is always better (though I hear there is a 600mb wireless protocal coming out very soon), but wireless can work very well if it is planned out and implemented correctly..

:clap:

walts81
01-27-2006, 11:54 AM
I also use a dlink DGL-3420 wireless game adapter up one floor and 60 feet away from a dlink DI-624 router and experience no problems with Sage 4.1.3 or 4.1.5 (beta)

- Josh

cmaffia
01-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Let me clarify that I did use Sage 2.2.8 with Matt's pluggin with SOME reliability... after upgrading to 4.0 and using MVP support... it made matters worse. I was very involved with early posting on this subject and the majority of users were have LOTS of problems with wireless.. so really it isn't a blanket statement if you go through the archives

That kind of blanket statement isn't fair to forum readers.. I have a netgear game adapter that I have been running for a year now.. I initially used Matt's plugin with no problems.. then upgraded to the latest Sage.. that introduced some issues, but those issues were resolved in the lastest Beta Build. The wireless now works perfectly for me.. I go through 2 walls (1 is an exterior Stucco wall) and still get about 80% of the signal.. I run about 45mb at the MVP.. I can stream DVD standard quality (Haven't tried any higher, so that may work as well)...

I recommend these to anybody who doesn't want to put holes in the house and run cable.

Just remember not to put too many devices on the wireless network.. try to go 'G' only and make sure you don't have the MVP too far from the wireless router.

Wired is always better (though I hear there is a 600mb wireless protocal coming out very soon), but wireless can work very well if it is planned out and implemented correctly..

:clap:

bobvoeh
01-27-2006, 01:10 PM
I gave up on my wireless game adapter solution after 1 year.
Performance with wireless got worse with 4.0 and built in MVP support.
Broke down and drilled holes to my daughters room to get a cat-5 cable in her room.

Bottom line.. DON'T BOTHER with wireless MVP setup.. Totally unreliable

Speak for yourself, not for everybody else. I have an MVP across a wireless bridge between two routers at my house. I setup the same at my friends house. MVP's at both locations work flawlessly. I admit that not everybody may have the same success as I, but you just cannot tell everybody to "DON'T BOTHER" just becuase you had a bad experience. Apparantly there is enough good experiences with a wireless setup that Hauppauge decided to put the effort into making a wireless version of the MVP. If it were "Totally unreliable" as you state, why would have they bothered?

cmaffia
01-27-2006, 02:20 PM
Let's not be rude

As someone who has been using this setup for a year, I am merely offering my personal experience. It is these types of posts that users who are sitting on the fence want to read.

So you have no problems....yet I do (as have others), thus illustrating the point that a game wirelesss setup is not 100% reliable.

I truly believe the wireless problem we are having has to do with the original MVP itself.

I can sit in the SAME room as my wireless MVP with a Wireless Laptop running SageClient and my SageClient performs FLAWLESSLY.

I am glad to hear there is a wireless MVP.. it will probably fix the problems alot of us have had with the original MVP and wireless hardware.

Speak for yourself, not for everybody else. I have an MVP across a wireless bridge between two routers at my house. I setup the same at my friends house. MVP's at both locations work flawlessly. I admit that not everybody may have the same success as I, but you just cannot tell everybody to "DON'T BOTHER" just becuase you had a bad experience. Apparantly there is enough good experiences with a wireless setup that Hauppauge decided to put the effort into making a wireless version of the MVP. If it were "Totally unreliable" as you state, why would have they bothered?

mayamaniac
01-27-2006, 03:57 PM
cmaffia, sounds like a wireless adapter problem connected to your MVP. And that two router wireless bridge trick might be the solution. But agree, nothing beats wired connections. I have Cat5's running all over my house plus wireless "b" but thats mostly too slow and unreliable for streaming videos. I'm skipping wireless "G" and just wait for "N" to become availalble. And if "N" is anywhere near half gigabit speed, it might be the end of wired connections.

Btw, does this two router wirless bridge trick work on other wireless routers also or just the Linksys WRT54G with updated firmware?

cmaffia
01-27-2006, 05:50 PM
I just went to Hauppauge website.
I don't see anything about a wireless MVP?
Is it out or coming out. I always speculated that the next MVP would have more outputs and a wireless feature but I can't seem to find any info on their website