STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[mkanet]

Thanks Dirk!

Must have misunderstood your questions (I thought you had an issue with cover art for Movies <-> TV series), and I didn't notice that you were talking about the "actor" pictures. I'll have a look at this.


Dirk

[mtyme]

If you are using keyboard/remote, you can either use the "Left" button/key to go back (enable "Left as back" in the SageMC Main menu specific options), or you can bind any button/key to the "Back" command in Detailed Setup / Link commands.

If you are using a mouse, there is a "hidden" back-spot in the left upper corner of each menu that will bring you back, or you can use MeInMaui's Toolbar like Geogecko said.

Dirk

I have the same issue. The "back" or "left" button on the remote doesn't work on the My Menu screen. It works fine everywhere else. Actually, what it does is moves to the right and selects the weather object. Again, this only happens on the My Menu screen.

Using sage 6.3.10, sageMC 6.3.7a, latest java, latest firmware on the HD extender, SagePro MC theme.

[bialio]

Same thing here. After upgrading to 6.3.7a "Left as Back" no longer works on the my menu screen. I have to hit the Home button to get back to the main menu.

This has been working in the past, and I haven't changed anything. Just upgraded from 6.3.7 to 6.3.7a via the upgrade path (as opposed to the full install).

btl.

[Slipshod]

I have the same issue. The "back" or "left" button on the remote doesn't work on the My Menu screen. It works fine everywhere else

I had the same issue after first installing 6.3.7.a. I had to go into the SageMC settings, Main, Screen Specific Options, Main menu, and enable "Left as Back". That worked on my local client as well as both HD extenders.

If that's not working for you, I don't have any other ideas...

[dflachbart]

I had the same issue after first installing 6.3.7.a. I had to go into the SageMC settings, Main, Screen Specific Options, Main menu, and enable "Left as Back". That worked on my local client as well as both HD extenders.

If that's not working for you, I don't have any other ideas...

Yep, that's exactly the solution. We should have set this new setting "enabled" by default... :p

Dirk

[bialio]

AHA. So there's a NEW Left as Back. It all makes sense now.

So what's the difference between the Screen Specific->Main Menu version and the one over in the Global UI Options?

btl.

[gplasky]

I think that was added for the customizations and making it easier to get over to the right side of the screen. It it is enabled you can't get over there until you go down in the Main Menu and are even or below the item on the right side of the screen.

Gerry

[MeInMaui]

AHA. So there's a NEW Left as Back. It all makes sense now.

So what's the difference between the Screen Specific->Main Menu version and the one over in the Global UI Options?

btl.

This was to address an issue that kricker found in the last build. Now that the menu layout can be freely customized, there are certain cases where moving left from a menu object would cause the 'back' command to be executed in dynamic submenus even if the menu object is not the left-most item. This setting was added to allow disabling of the left-as-back functionality for dynamic submenus if the problem is present. I will have to think about a better solution, I have a couple of ideas but they are all much more complicated. Sorry for the trouble.

Aloha,
Mike

[brandypuff]

Once in the TV guide screen, i can't get out. left arrow or the hidden area in the upper left corner doesn't work. i'm using a mouse and keyboard. i've got to kill the client.

[bialio]

Hit the Home key man - at least you don't have to kill the app that way. Takes you back to the main screen!

btl.

[MTuckman]

Mike,

Had a question about the Fixed Icon - Freeform menu layout. Is there a chance that the icons that are not the Focused icon be at a lower Z level than the Focused? Maybe even have it set up so that the Z level is lower for each icon as it moves away from the Focused?

The reason I asked is I made a minor modification to the Dynamic Menu code to enable a "Video Menu", similar to other media centers. Here is what I have working so far:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2co4eaf.png

As you can see, I can't have the icons on the right side of the Focused icon too close or they cover it up too much. I had to make drop the Opacity of the icons as they overlay each other.

I created the menu by hand for the 30+ videos that I picked out for my kids, but I am working on a mod that would load up the submenu from the video library on the fly.

Maybe... something like this could be incorporated into a new custom Video Library view? I was looking at this but I hated the idea of duplicating all of the code that went into the new Dynamic Menu. I was happy just getting it working (as a SubMenu) to the degree that I have it with just a couple of changes so far.

That leads into another idea - Any chance that we could have additional menu types other than just MainMenu and DynamicSubMenu? I modified the menu code to change the MenuType to be a special menu type (VideoMenu) if it was a certain hard coded menu name. I didn't want the format above applied to all sub menus.

So... To recap my ideas/requests/begging:


Control Z-order of icons
New custom Video Library View using the FixedIcon-Freeform look
Additional MenuTypes

[bialio]

That's pretty sharp! One thing you can do, which would kind of solve the problem, is order the items so that the top Z order one has the focus.

In other words, 9 movies visible, layout the icons :

1, 2, 3, 4, 9 , 8, 7, 6 ,5

So instead of making 5 the focus icon, shift it over to the far right and build up from there to 9 in the middle.

btl.

[MTuckman]

That's pretty sharp! One thing you can do, which would kind of solve the problem, is order the items so that the top Z order one has the focus.

In other words, 9 movies visible, layout the icons :

1, 2, 3, 4, 9 , 8, 7, 6 ,5

So instead of making 5 the focus icon, shift it over to the far right and build up from there to 9 in the middle.

btl.

I had thought of the same thing. After I realized that I had an issue with the Z order I tried the layout you posted above, but it confused my kids (wife wasn't happy either) since the videos didn't flow in the order they expected.

[mkanet]

I can totally imagine SageMC in the near future having imported videos this way with automatic reflections for the icons... like Media Portal.

Very cool stuff!!!

Mike,

Had a question about the Fixed Icon - Freeform menu layout. Is there a chance that the icons that are not the Focused icon be at a lower Z level than the Focused? Maybe even have it set up so that the Z level is lower for each icon as it moves away from the Focused?

The reason I asked is I made a minor modification to the Dynamic Menu code to enable a "Video Menu", similar to other media centers. Here is what I have working so far:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2co4eaf.png

As you can see, I can't have the icons on the right side of the Focused icon too close or they cover it up too much. I had to make drop the Opacity of the icons as they overlay each other.

I created the menu by hand for the 30+ videos that I picked out for my kids, but I am working on a mod that would load up the submenu from the video library on the fly.

Maybe... something like this could be incorporated into a new custom Video Library view? I was looking at this but I hated the idea of duplicating all of the code that went into the new Dynamic Menu. I was happy just getting it working (as a SubMenu) to the degree that I have it with just a couple of changes so far.

That leads into another idea - Any chance that we could have additional menu types other than just MainMenu and DynamicSubMenu? I modified the menu code to change the MenuType to be a special menu type (VideoMenu) if it was a certain hard coded menu name. I didn't want the format above applied to all sub menus.

So... To recap my ideas/requests/begging:

Control Z-order of icons
New custom Video Library View using the FixedIcon-Freeform look
Additional MenuTypes

[MeInMaui]

I can totally imagine SageMC in the near future having imported videos this way with automatic reflections for the icons... like Media Portal.

Very cool stuff!!!

Have you been snooping around on my development computer? ;)

[Brent]

Have you been snooping around on my development computer? ;)
No, but we'd like to :thumb:

[SyrA]

Hi !

I have a problem whne trying to save the imdb lookups coverart on a sagetv client. The picture just wont "stick". I have the latest version of sagetv running in servicemode on a WHS.

[scat]

I'll give it a try. i did notice that hidden back button in the upper left corner (I thought something was wrong with my display :-) but it doesn't work for the My Menu screen and neither does the left arrow - although the left arrow works for every other screen but not all screens have the hidden button working, it seems.

To Dirk

The Left or Back doesn't work in the Weather Report Suite either.

Thanks for the great work
Scat

[Sendero]

I have my new filtered videos menu item setup but I can't see how I edit the existing My Video menu to filter out the ones that I don't want it to show. When I tried to paste in a menu defnition XML for it I just ended up with two.

[JREkiwi]

I have a problem whne trying to save the imdb lookups coverart on a sagetv client. The picture just wont "stick". I have the latest version of sagetv running in servicemode on a WHS.There was a change made in the core and you now have to do a manual 'Refresh Imported Media' to pickup the coverart changes.

John

[Sendero]

I have my new filtered videos menu item setup but I can't see how I edit the existing My Video menu to filter out the ones that I don't want it to show. When I tried to paste in a menu defnition XML for it I just ended up with two.


OK, I went ahead and deleted the existing "My Video" menu and then recreated it. Unfortunately, things are not working for filtering.

Here is the definition for My Videos
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN"

"http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">
<sageMenu version="1.4">
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my videos.png" screen="Video Library Folder View"

title="My Videos">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExpr","\\\\Server\\Movies$")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", true)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
</sageMenu>

and here is the defnition for my "testing" menu

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN"

"http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">
<sageMenu version="1.4">
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="C:\Program

Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Themes\Default\album_empty.png" pinCode="1111"

screen="Video Library Folder View" title="Testing">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExpr","\\\\Server\\Movies$")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", False)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
</sageMenu>

But the current behavior is that all videos show up in both menu items. I want the videos only in the 'testing' folder. I currently only have that one import directory for my testing purposes. It only has 2 DVDs in it.

Is the problem with the $ in the path? I tried \$ and \\$ with no luck.

[ldavis]

I am sure this has been asked and answered several time now but regarding imdb lookups (Video library), obviously the image is saved to the HDD but the other (I think I have seen it called meta data) seems to be stored in a much more "volatile" location. Is there some why to store this so that if a file is moved to another location (but still in an imported directory) this information travels with the file?

Also ,with regard to this imdb lookup information, is there some way to get MPAA ratings that would be used for the parental controls feature.

[jphipps]

You can generate or create ".my" files for the videos, and the info will come from the file instead of from the DB. ".property" files can be used, but you must create them and actual import process reads them and inserts the info into the DB. The only drawback to th property files is that it does not currently work for DVD structures. I had tried "my" files before, but it seems it does not save all of the same information that is displayed from the DB. You can always delete the "my" file if you dont' like it and it will go back to the info in the DB...

Thanks,
Jeff

[jphipps]

OK, I went ahead and deleted the existing "My Video" menu and then recreated it. Unfortunately, things are not working for filtering.

Here is the definition for My Videos
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN"

"http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">
<sageMenu version="1.4">
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my videos.png" screen="Video Library Folder View"

title="My Videos">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExpr","\\\\Server\\Movies$")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", true)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
</sageMenu>

and here is the defnition for my "testing" menu

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN"

"http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">
<sageMenu version="1.4">
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="C:\Program

Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Themes\Default\album_empty.png" pinCode="1111"

screen="Video Library Folder View" title="Testing">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExpr","\\\\Server\\Movies$")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", False)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
</sageMenu>

But the current behavior is that all videos show up in both menu items. I want the videos only in the 'testing' folder. I currently only have that one import directory for my testing purposes. It only has 2 DVDs in it.

Is the problem with the $ in the path? I tried \$ and \\$ with no luck.

I think your problem is that you are including the entire path in the PathFiliterExpression. Usually the defined import path is not part of the video name, only the directory/filename below the defined import path.

Example:

Defined path: \\servername\videopath

with a directory \\servername\videopath\somedirectory

The data int he sage DB contains "somedirectory" not the entire path.

Thanks,
Jeff

[Brent]

I recently am having some issues with SageMC's Videos section.

1. The search function never comes up with any results
2. None of my new movies seem to be getting picked up from the DVDProfiler xml file.

Anyone have any ideas? I have the netflix plugin, google calendar plugin, videotools plugin and video edit plugin installed and am using the latest version of SageTV and SageMC.

Thanks,

[Sendero]

I think your problem is that you are including the entire path in the PathFiliterExpression. Usually the defined import path is not part of the video name, only the directory/filename below the defined import path.

Example:

Defined path: \\servername\videopath

with a directory \\servername\videopath\somedirectory

The data int he sage DB contains "somedirectory" not the entire path.

Thanks,
Jeff

Awesome! Thanks Jeff, that was it. I changed it to specify each of the three subdirs in there and now it works great.

[Sendero]

Awesome! Thanks Jeff, that was it. I changed it to specify each of the three subdirs in there and now it works great.

Ok, small problem. This worked great on the PC, but how do I have the same menu customizations apply to the HD Extender?

[jphipps]

If you save the menu from the PC from the options screen... Then from the extender, you can do a load on the menu.xml file from the options screen. I am assuming you are making these changes in the menu.xml file...

Thanks,
Jeff

[Brent]

I recently am having some issues with SageMC's Videos section.

1. The search function never comes up with any results
2. None of my new movies seem to be getting picked up from the DVDProfiler xml file.

Anyone have any ideas? I have the netflix plugin, google calendar plugin, videotools plugin and video edit plugin installed and am using the latest version of SageTV and SageMC.

Thanks,
It looks like the Netflix plugin is causing the problems with the search function. So I reimported SageMC and other plugins without the Netflix plugin for now and search is working again. There's a request for Morgan to correct this in future versions of the NetflixMC plugin.

I still can't get any of my newly added movies to find the dvd profiler profiles. Very frustrating so if anyone has any ideas let me know. Thanks!

[bialio]

Mike / Dirk - question regarding themes. I'm looking for a way to specify a background image that is different for the dynamic MAIN menu, and then any dynamic SUBMENU's that are defined. In the theme.properties file I see only one entry for dynamic menu :

Background/Dynamic_Menu_by_nielm=

and it sets the image for both. Is there a way to do this?

btl.

[scat]

When I turned on Sage Service to auto and restarted computer SageMC loads but no theme is applied.

Has anyone had this happen?

Scat

[big poppa pump]

Quick question!

I installed this package yesterday and so far I loving every bit of it..........except for a small nagging problem. After installing this package, I can't use 'skip fwd #2' or 'skip bkwd #2' to advance or go back by 1 day in my guide anymore.

Any ideas on how to resolve this?

Thanks!

[evilpenguin]

When I turned on Sage Service to auto and restarted computer SageMC loads but no theme is applied.

Has anyone had this happen?

Scat
SageTV uses a different properties file when you run a service in the background. You should be able to open up your Sage.properties, copy all the SageMC items (sagemc\...), and paste them into Sageclient.properties to get everything back to how it was.

[MTuckman]

I just started having a problem with videos, and wasn't sure if it is an issue with SageMC or the base.

With MKV files, it seems that hitting stop and then selecting "Restart" doesn't work. It jumps to the beginning of the video then immediately returns to where the playback was stopped.

Anyone else see this?

[Nick_W]

Hi,

When playing a DVD I want the FF/Rew buttons to skip the times I have defined, like in Live TV.

Instead of this it goes into FF mode, like on a VCR! I have multispeed disabled.

Is there a way to change this in SageMC (it works fine in the default STV)?

TIA,

Nick.

Bump.

Can any of the devs answer this?

TIA,

Nick.

[Mr_X]

Not sure if this bug has been addressed. I searched the thread but didn't see anything.

On the MediaMVP, when watching Live TV, if you press the up arrow, the channel increments by 10 instead of 1. Down decrements by 10 instead of 1.

If you're on channel 3, pressing UP will get you channel 13 instead of 4.

The MediaMVP channel changing functions properly on the default STV, but misbehaves when using MediaMC on the MediaMVP.

[MeInMaui]

Not sure if this bug has been addressed. I searched the thread but didn't see anything.

On the MediaMVP, when watching Live TV, if you press the up arrow, the channel increments by 10 instead of 1. Down decrements by 10 instead of 1.

If you're on channel 3, pressing UP will get you channel 13 instead of 4.

The MediaMVP channel changing functions properly on the default STV, but misbehaves when using MediaMC on the MediaMVP.

It sounds like you have your up/down arrows mapped to up/channel up and down/channel down. Try remapping them to just up and down.

Aloha,
Mike

[Nick_W]

Like the button that lets you shutdown SageTV etc., is there a way to have a button on the main page that would let you shutdown/restart the PC?

TIA,

Nick.

[cncb]

I am trying to remap the Music Jukebox shortcut to one of my sub-menus. I have edited the correct menu item in the main menu that links to my sub-menu to use the Music Jukebox shortcut but it still goes to the My Music screen when I run this command. Is there something I am missing?

[Mr_X]

It sounds like you have your up/down arrows mapped to up/channel up and down/channel down. Try remapping them to just up and down.

Aloha,
MikeThanks for your reply.
I haven't changed any key mappings for those keys, so if that is the problem, then it still seems like it's an issue in SageMC, since it works properly in the default STV.
If you think it's a key mapping issue, then it's more likely that SageMC is not detecting the differences between the 34 and 45 button remotes.

[Brent]

Thanks for your reply.
I haven't changed any key mappings for those keys, so if that is the problem, then it still seems like it's an issue in SageMC, since it works properly in the default STV.
If you think it's a key mapping issue, then it's more likely that SageMC is not detecting the differences between the 34 and 45 button remotes.

Still its very easy to remap the buttons to suit your needs. Thats what I recommend here.

EDIT: "works properly" is really difficult to define here since SageMC is doing what was intended even though it was different than the default SageTV.

[MeInMaui]

Thanks for your reply.
I haven't changed any key mappings for those keys, so if that is the problem, then it still seems like it's an issue in SageMC, since it works properly in the default STV.
If you think it's a key mapping issue, then it's more likely that SageMC is not detecting the differences between the 34 and 45 button remotes.

I'd just like to make a quick comment here since this has come up a number of times. Also, I'm not trying to be snippy. I just want to clarify some misconceptions.

SageMC is designed from the ground up and has its own unique feature set. It is not designed nor intended to behave the same way as the default STV. There are many instances where it behaves differently. These are not problems with SageMC, they are just cases where the intended behavior is different.

In the SageMC miniguide, channel up and channel down are used to jump through the channel list to allow quick navigation to the desired channel. If you have those commands mapped to your arrow keys then you will get this behavior. The default STV apparently does not have this feature so you will see no difference between the up + down and up/channel up + down/channel down key mappings.

Aloha,
Mike

[Brent]

I'd just like to make a quick comment here since this has come up a number of times. Also, I'm not trying to be snippy. I just want to clarify some misconceptions.

SageMC is designed from the ground up and has its own unique feature set. It is not designed nor intended to behave the same way as the default STV. There are many instances where it behaves differently. These are not problems with SageMC, they are just cases where the intended behavior is different.
I'm sure this is confusing for many new users of SageTV/SageMC - especially when they open up the very long SageTV PDF manual.

Just to add to to Mikes comment I think SageMC is so good anymore that many people install SageMC right after they install SageTV (default UI). This fact and the fact that it is so robust does give the impression that it's just another part of SageTV. Unfortunately the truth is that while SageMC does get care and attention of the folks at SageTV, it is coded and updated by Mike and Dirk. On top of the coding, both of these guys often put in their free time to answer questions on SageMC and it is appreciated by all of us.

A while back I started a complete list of keyboard shortcuts and it has grown into more of a "what keys do what", how to remap keys and how to set up varous remote controls and such. All of it in a kind of tutorial format that is easier to get through than a long manual. I've added many of the unique things about SageMC including some keyboard shortcut differences that Mike gave me as well.

Maybe I could do a Part 3 of my writeup on SageMC (http://brentevans.blogspot.com/2008/01/supercharge-your-htpc-with-sagetv.html) that outlines the "behaviour" differences of SageMC vs. SageTV Default. Don't know if that would help anyone or not though.

[Mr_X]

Thanks for the info.
I guess as a new user my concern (after learning the answer) was that others may run into this same problem and I guess it's up to the authors to decide if it's something that should be addressed.

I'm happy that at least there's an easy answer to the problem so thank you very much! :)

On a different note - 6000+ posts under this topic?
Shouldn't SageMC get it's own subforum? Yikes!

[Brent]

Thanks for the info.
I guess as a new user my concern (after learning the answer) was that others may run into this same problem and I guess it's up to the authors to decide if it's something that should be addressed.

I'm happy that at least there's an easy answer to the problem so thank you very much! :)

On a different note - 6000+ posts under this topic?
Shouldn't SageMC get it's own subforum? Yikes!
Yeah it is a monster isn't it. This is a topic that has been discussed several times with no resolution. Many times folks just start a new SageMC topic under the customizations category, but most just post right here. Even more amazing is this is probably the third round of SageMC incarnations on the forums so there are other really-long threads about older versions of SageMC as well.

[Mr_X]

Yeah it is a monster isn't it. This is a topic that has been discussed several times with no resolution. Many times folks just start a new SageMC topic under the customizations category, but most just post right here. Even more amazing is this is probably the third round of SageMC incarnations on the forums so there are other really-long threads about older versions of SageMC as well.It's a pet peeve of mine. BTV forums are bad for that but the worst (that I regularly read) is the AVS forum. Trying to find info there is nearly impossible. It's a shame because the best information is actually there, just not well maintained, much as many people do try!

In SageMC's case, it's pretty simple. when a new version comes out, start a new thread... If the forum admin doesn't want to create a new subforum just for SageMC.

Anyway, I'm probably coming across as a complainer - I think I need to talk less and read more! :) Sorry!!

[rsagetv99]

What timing!
I just switched back to MCE to use Evil's plugin and noticed some features that I miss that are in the default stv.

Please don't take this as a complaining post, I am just wondering if any of these features are currently being considered for future updates.

- Predictive search

- Malore Recordings Menu - I know this is kind of a funny request, but I really like the setup. Seems like I remember someone porting this over.

- If no Malore menus - can there be an option to always group movies in the recordings menu? Right now there is just the option to group, or sort - I would love it if there was an option to group and sort. The reason for this is that I have a bunch of movies recorded and they muddle up my recordings list when I am just trying to find a tv-show to watch.

- An clickable-option to just see DVDs in the My Videos menu.

- A "Clear" option in the current search pop-up, right now there is a backspace assigned to the "Stop" key, and if you click the "Erase" key, it also just does a backspace. Maybe you can have the "Erase" button erase all of the text.

It also seems like there are a few pod-cast categories missing from the Online Services menu, notably the Custom links are missing. Are you pulling from the same .properties files in the OnlineVideos directory?

Thanks for listening, and thanks for all of your efforts. It is certainly a great STV without any of my suggestions. :goodjob:

[Brent]

In SageMC's case, it's pretty simple. when a new version comes out, start a new thread... If the forum admin doesn't want to create a new subforum just for SageMC.

Anyway, I'm probably coming across as a complainer - I think I need to talk less and read more! :) Sorry!! Nah the complaining thing isn't a big deal and Mike just spoke up because theres been a lot of folks thinking SageMC is an official piece of SageTV and therefore supported by the paid guys ;) We're glad to have you here MrX so don't worry about it.

The problem with the "new version" idea for SageMC threads is that SageMC has been more of an evolution rather than a Version 1, 2 and 3. It still could be done though I guess.

Actually I find that the forums here are fairly well maintained - when a dup thread is posted its merged etc.

[Brent]

What timing!
I just switched back to MCE to use Evil's plugin and noticed some features that I miss that are in the default stv.
Just to avoid confusion by other readers of this - this is called SageMC or SageMC 16x9, not MCE. Not a big deal, but didn't want folks to get confused like I often do...

It also seems like there are a few pod-cast categories missing from the Online Services menu, notably the Custom links are missing. Are you pulling from the same .properties files in the OnlineVideos directory?
I'll tackle the easiest from your list. The online videos you see in SageMC is one version older than the one you see in the default SageTV STV. Most new features like this that show up in SageTV will eventually be added to
SageMC some time after the SageTV version comes out of beta and when the developers have the time.

[BobPhoenix]

- Malore Recordings Menu - I know this is kind of a funny request, but I really like the setup. Seems like I remember someone porting this over.Check this plugin (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20489).

[Slipshod]

- Predictive search

What do you mean by this? When I search for series it displays a list on the right which automatches what I type, getting more specific the more I type. Works great, and is one of the things I missed when I left DirectTivo way back when.

- If no Malore menus - can there be an option to always group movies in the recordings menu? Right now there is just the option to group, or sort - I would love it if there was an option to group and sort. The reason for this is that I have a bunch of movies recorded and they muddle up my recordings list when I am just trying to find a tv-show to watch.

It's kind of already there. Go to the settings menu, "SageMC", and then go to "Main" section, and open the "Screen Specific Options". Select "My TV" and then scroll down on the right - second option from the bottom. Makes all the movies show up in slot one in a folder named "Movies" when you're viewing recordings in "grouped" mode. This is the view I use all the time now.

- An clickable-option to just see DVDs in the My Videos menu.

Yeah, I kind of miss this one too.

[big poppa pump]

Quick question!

I installed this package yesterday and so far I loving every bit of it..........except for a small nagging problem. After installing this package, I can't use 'skip fwd #2' or 'skip bkwd #2' to advance or go back by 1 day in my guide anymore.

Any ideas on how to resolve this?

Thanks!

Can somebody please tell me if I can remap the skip fwd #2 and skip bkwd #2 to work in the guide.
Additionally, is it possible to remap the info key on the mce remote to bring up the detailed info on a program rather than the bar that comes on top of the screen.

Thanks!

[rsagetv99]

Check this plugin (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20489).That's the one, I knew I had seen that before. Thanks!

[Brent]

Can somebody please tell me if I can remap the skip fwd #2 and skip bkwd #2 to work in the guide.
Additionally, is it possible to remap the info key on the mce remote to bring up the detailed info on a program rather than the bar that comes on top of the screen.

Thanks!
In the detailed settings you can remap any key to any function you want.

[rsagetv99]

What do you mean by this? When I search for series it displays a list on the right which automatches what I type, getting more specific the more I type. Works great, and is one of the things I missed when I left DirectTivo way back when.What I mean is like predictive text on a cellphone where you don't have to hit the number "2" three times to get "C" you just hit it once and then move on to the next letter and Sage guesses(predicts) what you are trying to type based on what is in the recordings database. See the first post of this thread. http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=179715&postcount=1

It's kind of already there. Go to the settings menu, "SageMC", and then go to "Main" section, and open the "Screen Specific Options". Select "My TV" and then scroll down on the right - second option from the bottom. Makes all the movies show up in slot one in a folder named "Movies" when you're viewing recordings in "grouped" mode. This is the view I use all the time now. In grouped mode it sorts by recorded time. I am looking for grouped and sorted by title.

[big poppa pump]

In the detailed settings you can remap any key to any function you want.

Thanks!

I already tried doing that and it works properly in the default stv. However, once I switch over to sageMC, the keys no longer funcion properly.

[cncb]

I am trying to remap the Music Jukebox shortcut to one of my sub-menus. I have edited the correct menu item in the main menu that links to my sub-menu to use the Music Jukebox shortcut but it still goes to the My Music screen when I run this command. Is there something I am missing?

Anyone have any ideas about this? I tried remapping "Custom5" instead but none of the shortcuts seem to working when I assign them in the menu options.

[Brent]

Can somebody please tell me if I can remap the skip fwd #2 and skip bkwd #2 to work in the guide.
Additionally, is it possible to remap the info key on the mce remote to bring up the detailed info on a program rather than the bar that comes on top of the screen.

Thanks!

Thanks!

I already tried doing that and it works properly in the default stv. However, once I switch over to sageMC, the keys no longer funcion properly.
Hmm. That should work so something is "conflicting" here. Do this for me, Go into the SageMC Options (specific to SageMC - not the default STV options) and then select "Enhancements" move your mouse down to "multispeed FF/REW Options" and select it. Here it shuld say what key bindings are assigned to the multispeed FF/REW. If its the same as skip fwd #2 and skip bkwd #2 then its probably the multispeed ff/rew conflicting - not really SageMC. Let me know though cause I'm curious.

[Opus4]

Different STVs work differently: an STV is programmed to act in certain ways in response to user input. So, for example, in the default STV, FF2/REW2 can be used to jump a whole day in the Program Guide, while # + FF/FF2/REW/REW2 can be used to jump that # of days. That's how that STV works, but there is no guarantee that another STV has similar functionality because those are STV-controlled actions, not core scrolling actions.

What someone new to SageMC ought to do is mention what you are trying to do & find out if this STV has a way to do it. The base question is: how do you scroll by day in SageMC's guide?

- Andy

[big poppa pump]

Hmm. That should work so something is "conflicting" here. Do this for me, Go into the SageMC Options (specific to SageMC - not the default STV options) and then select "Enhancements" move your mouse down to "multispeed FF/REW Options" and select it. Here it shuld say what key bindings are assigned to the multispeed FF/REW. If its the same as skip fwd #2 and skip bkwd #2 then its probably the multispeed ff/rew conflicting - not really SageMC. Let me know though cause I'm curious.

This plugin is disabled!

[cncb]

Anyone have any ideas about this? I tried remapping "Custom5" instead but none of the shortcuts seem to working when I assign them in the menu options.

I guess I'm talking to myself here but has anyone been able to get custom shortcuts to work?

[bialio]

I guess I'm talking to myself here but has anyone been able to get custom shortcuts to work?
It's not real clear to me what you are trying to do, or I'd try to help.

btl.

[cncb]

It's not real clear to me what you are trying to do, or I'd try to help.

I have a menu item that launches a sub-menu that I created. I go into the menu options for the menu item and select a "shortcut" for it. I have tried both "Music Jukebox" and "Custom5". In both cases the sub-menu is not launched when I issue the shortcut/command. I have made sure that the menu file is saved and that the shortcut is still associated with the menu item but it is not working for some reason.

[bialio]

I think SageMC has all the keys mapped already - so chances are the short cuts you are defining (in the dynamic menu) aren't gettng called because the default SageMC function is getting used.

Someone who knows what all the buttons do might be able to help you out more.....

btl.

[raoul]

Ok... I must be missing something...

I enabled "allow partial recordings". I bought a PPV event... of course in the guide it is a 4 hour event called PPV. I manually started the recording when the show began. At the end of the show, I tried to hit stop and just have it keep the 1.5 hours I wanted. I could get out of it, but it kept recording anyway. I eventually hit cancel recording, but then it deleted it.

I see in Nielm's multi-function stop addon for the standard STV, it has an option that lists "stop and keep partial recording". How do I get that on SageMC? I assume I just haven't found it yet.

Also, can you do a timed recording within SageMC? I was told it exists in the standard STV. In SageMC, could I have told it to record PPV channel 110 from 7pm to 8:30pm? That is the better option.

thanks

[cncb]

I think SageMC has all the keys mapped already - so chances are the short cuts you are defining (in the dynamic menu) aren't gettng called because the default SageMC function is getting used.

Ok, thanks. That's what it looked like in the STV but it seemed strange that they couldn't be remapped. I will modify the STV directly.

[akenis]

I've been having a lot more instances of garbled characters and text on my MC menu's. Pretty sure most of my stuff is up to date with fairly recent versions. On start up things are fine. After watching tv for a while, and returning to menus, they're illegible. Large white illegible text. Exit sage, restart....repeat.

Starting to drive me crazy. Any ideas on how to fix?

[MeInMaui]

I've been having a lot more instances of garbled characters and text on my MC menu's. Pretty sure most of my stuff is up to date with fairly recent versions. On start up things are fine. After watching tv for a while, and returning to menus, they're illegible. Large white illegible text. Exit sage, restart....repeat.

Starting to drive me crazy. Any ideas on how to fix?

I don't have any ideas other than to enable debug logging (see flachbar's signature for a link to instructions) and look for any errors.

Aloha,
Mike

[akenis]

edit: moved to sage tv thread. Problems seem to start with just the service running:


Update: Just uninstalled some older java (directories where still there), reinstalled sage MC base, and latest build. Probably worse now.

On certain videos (seems to be CBS OTA from HDHR) the video stalls or stops intermittantly for 5-30 seconds, and the computer seems to lock up. When returning back to the menus, it's a black background now, with all the garbled text and images.

Interesting way I found to temp fix: If I do a control/alt/del to bring up task manager, then the MC menu's instantly return to normal.

Will try using standard stv for a while, but pretty sure it's mc.

edit:

Troubleshooting: I have service running on this machine. I deleted my sage_client.properites file, thinking there might be a problem there. As soon as I restarted the service a log file is generated in sage directory:

2008-03-28 23:58:39.453 INFO loadXML from C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageTV3.xml
2008-03-28 23:58:39.953 FINE loadXML count = 41062
2008-03-28 23:58:39.953 FINE loadXML depth = 193
2008-03-28 23:58:39.953 FINE loadXML anon = 37321
2008-03-28 23:58:39.953 FINE loadXML sym = 282
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:ConfigWizButton
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Header
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:LargeFont
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Italicized
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:InfoRightPanelTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:CWizMenuItemTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:CWizMenuItemTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:NonCenteredTextTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:SubTitleTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:OrangeText
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:NumberPadKeyTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:ARAdjust
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:ItalicsTheme
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Untitled
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Untitled
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Untitled
2008-03-28 23:58:40.500 WARNING symbolMap duplicate Theme:Untitled

This happens even before I start up the client.

Andrew

[Sendero]

Ok, I got the excluding part working, but now even the folders I want included are not showing up on My Videos.

I have two shares in my watch folders
\\Server1\Movies\Parents
\\Server2\Movies\Movies

For the relevant menu items, I have these two definitions. To make things easier on myself I removed to Parents share from the Sage Import folders. Just trying to get things right so that kids movies only show in kids movies folder and not in the Parents one.


<!-- Kids Videos -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my videos.png" screen="Video Library Folder View" title="Kids Movies">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExprs", new_java_util_ArrayList())</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>java_util_List_add(PathFilterExprs, "\\\\Server1\\Movies\\Parents")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", true)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>

<!-- Parents videos -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my videos.png" screen="Video Library Folder View" title="Parents Movies">
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExprs", new_java_util_ArrayList())</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>java_util_List_add(PathFilterExprs, "\\\\Server2\\Movies\\Movies")</evalExpression>
<evalExpression>AddStaticContext("PathFilterExcludes", true)</evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>




The problem is that with this config I see all kids movies in both menus. The filters doesn't seem to be working at all.


I'm basing this on examples in this thread (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27410&page=2). They're just not working for me. I'm making all changes in sagemc_menu.xml.

[jphipps]

I think the problem is that the DB in sage does not include the import path in the title, only the directory/filename under the import directory.

Try changing your PathFilterExprs to just Movies and not \\Server2\Movies\Movies....

[Brent]

In SageMC's music browser If I browse by song, my first four "songs" listed are always the FM hauppague tuners as follows:
hauppauge Wintv PVR USB2 Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR PCI II Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR USB2 Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR PCI II Encoder FM Radio

This seems like a bug in SageMC unless I'm doing something wrong. I don't see this in the default STV. Here's a pic

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2373257795_9e5f584834_o.png

Anyone else seen this? Is there a way to avoid having these listed in the music list?

[Brent]

I recently am having some issues with SageMC's Videos section.
2. None of my new movies seem to be getting picked up from the DVDProfiler xml file.

Anyone have any ideas? I have the netflix plugin, google calendar plugin, videotools plugin and video edit plugin installed and am using the latest version of SageTV and SageMC.

Thanks,

Is there a log where I could troubleshoot SageMC not finding my new movies in the collection.xml file? I just checked to be sure the movie was listed in the collection.xml file and it is, and I have the correct path for the collection file listed in SageMC settings (nothing has changed there and it was working until just about a week ago)

any ideas?

[gplasky]

Did the export out of DVD Profiler export to the correct place? I noticed when I did my export for whatever reason the directory I always used and was picked by default wasn't. It had defaulted a couple of directories up. Luckily I caught it the second time around and now I have to pick the directory every time because it's always on the wrong one by default.

Gerry

[Brent]

Did the export out of DVD Profiler export to the correct place? I noticed when I did my export for whatever reason the directory I always used and was picked by default wasn't. It had defaulted a couple of directories up. Luckily I caught it the second time around and now I have to pick the directory every time because it's always on the wrong one by default.

Gerry
Hi Gerry,
Yes actually I've exported the xml file from DVD Profiler a few extra times just to be certain and it is going to the correct directory. Then I checked the path in SageMC settings and it is the proper directory as well. I even opened up the xml file to be sure the movies added were in the xml file which they were.

Just not sure how to troubleshoot beyond what I've done.

[gplasky]

That's a strange one.
I know you use SageMC but depending on what you use you could have three settings in your Sageclient.properties file.

mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=
sagemc/DVDProfiler_Root=
stanger89/ImageRoot=

They should all refer to the same path. Other than that you have me stumped on that one. Maybe double check you have the latest DVDPro2Sage class file or the various SageMC jar. I'm pretty sure there's no log file to check.

Gerry

[Brent]

That's a strange one.
I know you use SageMC but depending on what you use you could have three settings in your Sageclient.properties file.

mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=
sagemc/DVDProfiler_Root=
stanger89/ImageRoot=

They should all refer to the same path. Other than that you have me stumped on that one. Maybe double check you have the latest DVDPro2Sage class file or the various SageMC jar. I'm pretty sure there's no log file to check.

Gerry

Hmm. Here's what I'm seeing in the Sageclient.properties file:

mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=\\\\Livingroom\\SkyPC My Documents\\DVD Profiler\\Databases\\Default
sagemc/DVDProfiler_Root=\\\\livingroom\\skypc my documents\\dvd profiler\\databases\\Default

Should there be the four slashes "\\\\" before the path?

I don't have the stanger89/ImageRoot= in Sageclient.properties file

[gplasky]

Should there be the four slashes "\\\\" before the path?

Yes-for a UNC path. I run DVDProfiler on a local Sage client so mine is:
sagemc/DVDProfiler_Root=C\:\\Documents and Settings\\Gerry\\My Documents\\DVD Profiler\\Databases\\Default

I don't have the in Sageclient.properties file
And you shouldn't- unless you use stanger's IVL 9.0 plugin for the default STV.

The other path to check is:
mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMCE\\Collection.xml
sagemc/meta_data_collection_xml=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMCE\\Collection.xml


As you can see I run it from a PC client and have DVDProfiler installed on that client. Same client I do all my video editing from also. Just easier that way.

Gerry

[Brent]

The other path to check is:
mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMCE\\Collection.xml
sagemc/meta_data_collection_xml=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMCE\\Collection.xml


For that one I see
sagemc/meta_data_collection_xml=\\\\Livingroom\\SkyPC My Documents\\DVD Profiler\\Databases\\Default\\Collection.xml

I don't get it. All of the paths look okay. I think I'm going to try to do a refresh while not in service mode to see if that makes a difference. It's driving me nuttier than I already am .........

[Brent]

Is there a log where I could troubleshoot SageMC not finding my new movies in the collection.xml file? I just checked to be sure the movie was listed in the collection.xml file and it is, and I have the correct path for the collection file listed in SageMC settings (nothing has changed there and it was working until just about a week ago)


I've figured this problem out!!! :jump:

Tried so many different things that didn't work, but thought about what might have changed when this import stopped working. The answer?
When the latest version of SageTV stopped requiring that DVDs have the video_ts folder I stopped adding a video_ts folder. I just added that folder for two of the non-working imports and it worked! finally.

So mark this down as a bug and a fix-request. Stop requiring the video_ts folder for dvdprofiler imports to work in SageMC.

Thanks for your working with me on this Gerry - I really appreciate it.

[gplasky]

Good find. I never would have caught that because the programs I use create the VIDEO_TS directory by default. Nice one.

Gerry

[richardcrowther]

I've just re-installed the full version of 6.3.7a to get the autocompression working correctly on EP's plugin and to get the Netflix plugin working properly.
After doing the re-install, all of my previous settings for menus etc were still available but I was missing all of the custom groups and genre allocations that I had set up.
I have a full backup of my SageTV directory prior to the re-install, is there any way to use the files in this to get back the group and genre assignments for my imported video files?
Any help would be much appreciated since it took a long time to save and group all of those files.

[kricker]

So...I am recovering from a system crash and currently all my ripped movies reside on an external USB hard-drive. I have that folder on that drive setup in Sage as an import lbrary. I also setup this path as my "offline" path in SageMC options. Problem is when that drive is off and I enter the videos screen, it takes forever to respond when entering and scrolling around. I assume this is because it is always trying to find the covers to display. Is this a correct assumption? Is there a setting that will make that not happen? I anticipate my setup will be like this for some time, and that drive will not always be connected.

Is anyone using the imported video library to display archived/ripped TV series? My luck with this has not been good so far. It has been very cumbersome to try to get thing organized within SageMC. One thing that makes it very tricky is that my TV shows and Movies are displayed in one giant collection. I have tried using groups, but it just isn't getting me where I'd like to be. Any suggestions?

[Brent]

So...I am recovering from a system crash and currently all my ripped movies reside on an external USB hard-drive. I have that folder on that drive setup in Sage as an import lbrary. I also setup this path as my "offline" path in SageMC options. Problem is when that drive is off and I enter the videos screen, it takes forever to respond when entering and scrolling around. I assume this is because it is always trying to find the covers to display. Is this a correct assumption?
Yes your correct that whenever SageTV can't find those covers it slows down video browsing a bunch.
Is there a setting that will make that not happen? I anticipate my setup will be like this for some time, and that drive will not always be connected.
I personally don't know of a workaround, but hopefully others will chime in with some suggestions.

Is anyone using the imported video library to display archived/ripped TV series? My luck with this has not been good so far. It has been very cumbersome to try to get thing organized within SageMC. One thing that makes it very tricky is that my TV shows and Movies are displayed in one giant collection. I have tried using groups, but it just isn't getting me where I'd like to be. Any suggestions?
The ability to group TV series and multi-episode DVDs in SageMC is an open feature request that I'd really like to see also.

[CyRex]

I bought a PPV event... of course in the guide it is a 4 hour event called PPV. I manually started the recording when the show began. At the end of the show, I tried to hit stop and just have it keep the 1.5 hours I wanted. I could get out of it, but it kept recording anyway. I eventually hit cancel recording, but then it deleted it.

I believe you need to press the 'record' button again to stop a manual recording without deleting the recorded portion.

-Dan

[Brent]

On a different note - 6000+ posts under this topic?
Shouldn't SageMC get it's own subforum? Yikes!

Okay, you're only around here for a few days and already making an impact :thumb:


SageMC Forums (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41)

[toricred]

Okay, you're only around here for a few days and already making an impact :thumb:


SageMC Forums (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41)

He may have been the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back." Not that I'm calling Opus4 a camel.;)

[Xsabre]

I just finished doing a complete installation of the newest SageTV 6 and SageMC. Replaced all important files with backups (ie, Sage.properties, etc).

Everything works great. The only issues I have is the backup file that I have for the custom menu has an error at col 3 line 3. It was working fine in my previous installation of the SageTV 6 with SageMC.

I know very little about xml so can some one please tell me what is wrong. It is probably a very simple solution but it escapes me. Thanks in advance...


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN" "http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">
<sageMenu version="1.4">

<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my tv.png" screen="Favorites Manager" title="Favorites Manager">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my videos.png" screen="Google Video" title="Google Video">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_msn messenger.png" screen="ImdbSearch" title="IMDB Search">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my news.png" screen="Rss News Feeds -- nielm" title="RSS Feeds">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_settings.png" screen="Handle Conflict" title="Schedule Conflicts">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->
<internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my status.png" screen="Video Conversions" title="Video Conversions">
<evalExpression> </evalExpression>
</internalScreenMenuItem>
<!-- -->

</sageMenu>

[kricker]

Xsabre, Is that the complete file? I see quite a few inconsistencies compared to my working file. Change the extension to .txt and attach it to a post. Sometimes copy and pasting into a post does weird things to the text.

[CyRex]

The only issues I have is the backup file that I have for the custom menu has an error at col 3 line 3. It was working fine in my previous installation of the SageTV 6 with SageMC.

I know very little about xml so can some one please tell me what is wrong. It is probably a very simple solution but it escapes me. Thanks in advance...

Try changing this line...

<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN" "http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">


to this...

<!DOCTYPE sageMenu PUBLIC "-//NIELM//DTD SAGEMENU XML 1.4//EN" "http://sageplugins.sourceforge.net/nielm_modules/dynamic_menu/sagemenu_1_3.dtd">

-Dan

[kricker]

My !DOCTYPE line looks just like his and works.
I'm guessing it is because it is missing the lines:
<menu title="Main">
....
</menu> But I'd really like to see the full file to make sure.

[CyRex]

Hmm... I was seeing the same error just last night. I searched the forums for the error message and turned up a post suggesting to change the !DOCTYPE line to the one I posted. Once I did that, I got a different error message. The final solution was that I had to delete (rename) the "SageTV\SageTV\net" directory. Since he said this was a new install, I figured that was not his problem.

-Dan

[Xsabre]

Xsabre, Is that the complete file? I see quite a few inconsistencies compared to my working file. Change the extension to .txt and attach it to a post. Sometimes copy and pasting into a post does weird things to the text.


Here is a txt version of the file. Thanks again...

[kricker]

Try this one:

[bialio]

Maui Mike - a bug that I've run into fairly frequently, and I just saw someone else had run into also, is that sometimes when moving widgets (icons usually) around on the dynamic menu you reach a point where you loose the ability to move the widget down. Have you seen this on your machines?

I can almost always work around this by using the digit pad (7,8, or 9) to move the object down to the bottom of the screen.

btl.

[MeInMaui]

Maui Mike - a bug that I've run into fairly frequently, and I just saw someone else had run into also, is that sometimes when moving widgets (icons usually) around on the dynamic menu you reach a point where you loose the ability to move the widget down. Have you seen this on your machines?

I can almost always work around this by using the digit pad (7,8, or 9) to move the object down to the bottom of the screen.

btl.

I've noticed a couple of other wierd things as well. I'll look into it. Thanks.

BTW, I worked out how to define a separate background for dynamic submenus.

Aloha,
Mike

[Nick_W]

Hi,

When playing a DVD I want the FF/Rew and SkipF/SkipB buttons to skip the times I have defined (like 60 seconds), like in Live TV. I don't want them to skip chapters, or go into fast forward mode!

Is there a way to change this in SageMC (it works fine in the default STV)?

TIA,

Nick.

[Nick_W]

In SageMC's music browser If I browse by song, my first four "songs" listed are always the FM hauppague tuners as follows:
hauppauge Wintv PVR USB2 Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR PCI II Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR USB2 Encoder FM Radio
hauppauge Wintv PVR PCI II Encoder FM Radio

This seems like a bug in SageMC unless I'm doing something wrong. I don't see this in the default STV. Here's a pic

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2373257795_9e5f584834_o.png

Anyone else seen this? Is there a way to avoid having these listed in the music list?

Hi,

Yes, I see my four tuners listed there as well.

Regards,

Nick.

[Xsabre]

Try this one:

Let me start by saying thanks for your help.

I went ahead and used your file, but I still got the same error.

Error at line 3 col 3
Markup declaration contained or provided to by the document
type declaration must be well formed

I did try using an older file that I had and it didn't error out, but it
doesn't do anything. Nothing happens when clicking on it or with the remote.

I have attached it for your review.

Thanks again.

[CyRex]

Let me start by saying thanks for your help.

I went ahead and used your file, but I still got the same error.


Just wondering - did you try changing the !DOCTYPE line to the one I suggested previously? I'm interested to see if that makes any difference.

Also, did you check to see if your SageTV\SageTV directory contains a sub-directory named 'net'?

-Dan

[kricker]

Let me start by saying thanks for your help.

I went ahead and used your file, but I still got the same error.

Error at line 3 col 3
Markup declaration contained or provided to by the document
type declaration must be well formed

I did try using an older file that I had and it didn't error out, but it
doesn't do anything. Nothing happens when clicking on it or with the remote.

I have attached it for your review.

Thanks again.Hmm I even tested that file uploaded and it worked fine. You might be having some other issue.

[Xsabre]

Just wondering - did you try changing the !DOCTYPE line to the one I suggested previously? I'm interested to see if that makes any difference.

Also, did you check to see if your SageTV\SageTV directory contains a sub-directory named 'net'?

-Dan

Just tried it no luck. BTW, I do have a net folder.

I think it maybe related to the net folder. Anyone know how the .class files in the subdirectory of the net folder are generated?

Thanks again..

[dflachbart]

Just tried it no luck. BTW, I do have a net folder.

I think it maybe related to the net folder. Anyone know how the .class files in the subdirectory of the net folder are generated?

Thanks again..

This must be a left-over from an old install. Simply delete it and restart SageTV.


Dirk

[Xsabre]

This must be a left-over from an old install. Simply delete it and restart SageTV.


Dirk

Looks like that was it. I think I remember doing that before.

Thanks again...

BTW, the conflict resolution option in the dynamic menu never did show any conflicts when selected even though I did have conflicts. Not a big deal...just wanted to asked to see if any one else had a similar problem.

[dflachbart]

Ok guys,

since we now have our own subforum there is really no point of keeping this monster alive, so let's put it gracefully to rest. I will lock this thread by the end of the evening to 'encourage' everyone to create new, specific threads. If you want to continue any of the recent posts in here then drop me a PM, I can move those posts into a new thread.

I'll grant you a chance to say goodbye and pay your condolence, and then let's move on :D


Dirk

[MeInMaui]

I'll grant you a chance to say goodbye and pay your condolence, and then let's move on :D

Ah, the memories. My first post in this thread was way back at post #20 and I had absolutely no idea what I was doing or what I was getting myself into. I guess ignorance really is bliss. ;)

Ok, I'm good now. :thumb:

Aloha,
Mike

[Brent]

Ok guys,

since we now have our own subforum there is really no point of keeping this monster alive, so let's put it gracefully to rest. I will lock this thread by the end of the evening to 'encourage' everyone to create new, specific threads. If you want to continue any of the recent posts in here then drop me a PM, I can move those posts into a new thread.

I'll grant you a chance to say goodbye and pay your condolence, and then let's move on :D


Dirk
Thanks for the good times :cool:

Okay, I'll admit I've only been at this SageMC thing since December 2007, but its been a great 3 Plus months! Good to see SageMC has grown enough to earn its own subforum. Again thanks to Dirk, Mike and everyone else who've had a part in this awesome UI replacement add-on!

[Morgan111]

Goodbye SageMC thread:(
I thought we would make it to at least 10,000 posts....

[mkanet]

Goodbye SageMC thread!

[QueOnda]

:clap: Great. I hate to read all them posts. :dance:

[toricred]

Goodbye, Farewell, Amen.

[samgreco]

In lieu of flowers we request a donation to the HD-Extender Fund or the HD-PVR Fund.

[dflachbart]

Well, after almost 2 years and 6114 posts it's time to let go :)


This thread is now - closed -
Dirk