STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[gplasky]

I just checked it with 6.7, it works absolutely fine here (I also have one tuner 1-99, and another one 1-999) :rolleyes:

Dirk
Double-checked. 6.7 on a client. I have 4 tuners 1-99. channel number + enter = blank screen, no sound, tv and osd back on same channel. Could a import be causing this? Movie times, webradio, cpu monitor, caller ID and netflix are what I have loaded.:confused: Doesn't happen on the server-same imports.

Gerry

[Franc]

I'm beginning to like SageMC more and more but there's one thing that's bugging me.
When using PlaceShifter, the sounds when going through the menus come from my TV set? The bleeps and wooshes don't come from the client machine, but from my TV...

Anyone else experiencing this?

[popechild]

I'm beginning to like SageMC more and more but there's one thing that's bugging me.
When using PlaceShifter, the sounds when going through the menus come from my TV set? The bleeps and wooshes don't come from the client machine, but from my TV...

Anyone else experiencing this?
I'm not using placeshifter, so I can't say from experience, but where do you want them to come from? I assume the computer you're using Placeshifter on is connected to the tv, so don't you *want* the sound coming from the tv? I guess I should ask it this way - are the sounds coming from a different place than the sound on the recordings are? Cause I would assume they would naturally all come from the same place.

[Franc]

No, I don't want them to come from the TV when I am using PlaceShifter.
PlaceShifter is on my laptop. Could be upstairs, could be in the garden.

My SageTV server is connected to the TV. So when my son is watching TeleTubbies and I am browsing for music or whatever on my laptop, the sounds are interrupting whatever he is watching :)

[dflachbart]

No, I don't want them to come from the TV when I am using PlaceShifter.
PlaceShifter is on my laptop. Could be upstairs, could be in the garden.

My SageTV server is connected to the TV. So when my son is watching TeleTubbies and I am browsing for music or whatever on my laptop, the sounds are interrupting whatever he is watching :)

When using Placeshifter the STV code is executed on the server, and so are the sound effects. So jds23 is right, when using Placeshifter you should disable the menu sounds in the SageMC options...

Dirk

[Franc]

Seems PlaceShifter doesn't like SageMC (or the other way around ;) )

I can't change themes on PlaceShifter. No matter which one I choose, it always comes back as blue 2
When in My Music, when I choose a song from view by album and then select a song, PlaceShifter just disappears. I have to restart it and it just doesn't let me select a song like this. When I use the Play button however, it starts the first song of the album okay.

Also sound from the webradio for MC plugin comes from my TV and not PlaceShifter :)

[popechild]

Yes, "record series" should be showing up in the schedule of upcoming recordings, however, if you've just selected them, or changed some settings, it can take it a while before it actually shows up.
Think I just figured out what's going on. I just looked again at the schedule, and a couple of shows appeared that weren't there before, but not all of them. They're coming up in a couple of days. That reminded me - did I read somewhere about a 3-day limit or something to how far in advance Sage actually schedules? If so, I don't suppose this is modifiable is it?

Coming from Tivo and other set-top DVRs, I'm used to being able to see scheduled recordings as far in advance as the EPG goes. Anybody able to tell me why Sage would choose to only show the next couple of days?

Thanks...

[geogecko]

I believe this is the setting in your properties file. But, just remember, if you start having problems with something, changing this value could have done it.

The value appears to be in seconds, but then a divide of 1000 is needed to get it in days. In other words, take this number, /60, /60, /24, /1000. So if you want to put a new value in, take say, 7 days, *60, *60, *24, *1000 to get the value you enter here.

scheduling_lookahead=259200000

[gplasky]

gplasky,

Did you check the setting that a replied about above a few posts? If that setting is not correct with the way you are applying channel changes, it will perform exactly as you state. Other than that, I use MT and WR with Sagemc, no problems with those.

EDIT: Settings>Detailed Setup>Advanced>SageMC 16x9 Options>Main>Previous Channel=DISABLED
You got me. Must of missed reading your post. Sure enough-previous channel was enabled. Don't know why-never use it.

Gerry

[popechild]

I believe this is the setting in your properties file. But, just remember, if you start having problems with something, changing this value could have done it.

The value appears to be in seconds, but then a divide of 1000 is needed to get it in days. In other words, take this number, /60, /60, /24, /1000. So if you want to put a new value in, take say, 7 days, *60, *60, *24, *1000 to get the value you enter here.

scheduling_lookahead=259200000
Sweet! Thanks for your continued help geogecko!

[geogecko]

Not a problem. It was funny that I thought building the HTPC (the PC) would be the hardest part about an HTPC, but it's really been all about software!

[dflachbart]

Is there a chance of getting a progress bar on shows being watched in recording library? that's one thing I miss from the original STV.

yes, there is ... :)

[geogecko]

The HDTV icon appears to be getting cut off in the show details screen, both top and bottom, like it's too big or something. Anyone else notice?

[kricker]

The HDTV icon appears to be getting cut off in the show details screen, both top and bottom, like it's too big or something. Anyone else notice?
After searching the .xml with studio I did find an instance of the HDTV icon that is not set to "Resize to fit". This is probably the one. It's under "Handle Conflict\Airing != null\Detail Panel\Untitled\Untitled\GetProperty("sagemc/hdtv_icons", true)\StringIndexOf(GetExtraAiringDetails(Airing),"HDTV") != -1\Untitled\Untitled"

[dflachbart]

After searching the .xml with studio I did find an instance of the HDTV icon that is not set to "Resize to fit". This is probably the one. It's under "Handle Conflict\Airing != null\Detail Panel\Untitled\Untitled\GetProperty("sagemc/hdtv_icons", true)\StringIndexOf(GetExtraAiringDetails(Airing),"HDTV") != -1\Untitled\Untitled"
Thanks guys for the heads-up, must have missed that one. I'll fix this in the next version

Dirk

[dflachbart]

WTG Gerry! Somehow in the latest 6.7 it is set to "ENABLED" by default (I believe) so I think that is why it got set for you without you ever using/changing it. Most people want that feature I believe, so it is probably good to have it that way, but at least we know where to go now to change it .
Actually it has been enabled by default since I included it into the SageMC options screen (6.4) :) Also note that the channel change even works with this feature enabled (I am using it myself), I simply input my channel numbers always with 3 digits without pressing select. Same amount of remote button presses for most of the channels (> 9) :D


Dirk

[Xsabre]

Have a question regarding the preview window. In the previous version I use to be able to go to a menu and whatever I was watching would continue to play in the preview window on the bottom left corner. Now it just pauses the show and shows an icon in the preview window.

I looked through all of the feature options but didn’t see anything relating to this. How can I enable the preview window to work like it did before?

Thanks in advance...

[SageDonkey]

Thanks - I'm pretty sure that is what is happening to me. I am so used to typing the channel and ok...so I'm sure that is the problem. I will test first thing Tuesday - system is down for apartment maintence for the next couple of days.

[dflachbart]

Have a question regarding the preview window. In the previous version I use to be able to go to a menu and whatever I was watching would continue to play in the preview window on the bottom left corner. Now it just pauses the show and shows an icon in the preview window.

I looked through all of the feature options but didn’t see anything relating to this. How can I enable the preview window to work like it did before?

Thanks in advance...
Somehow your Video Menu Options (in Detailed Setup/Multimedia) got set to something different than 'If Active'. This has been reported before, but I can't figure out what would be causing this. Just set the option back, and it should be fine ...

Dirk

[geogecko]

Yes, and the option is in your regular setup, I believe under multimedia, video menu options, set to "If Active."

It appears to be getting reset every time you close and restart Sage.

[dflachbart]

It appears to be getting reset every time you close and restart Sage.

I had this happen to me too once, but I can't reproduce it any more, closing and restarting Sage definetly works for me without losing the setting.

Which imports do you have loaded ? Maybe one of them is the culprit, I could check their code if you give me a list ...


Dirk

[geogecko]

Hmm...now it's sticking, all of a sudden. Even after a reboot.

Interesting.

[toricred]

Any chance of getting this version of commercial skipping (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19122) to work in SageMC? I tried and now no commercial skipping happens.

[Muchacho]

Thanks for all the work- this stv keeps getting better...

I was wondering if it is possible to add or change something in the shutdown menu (the button on the top left). I have my system set so that the screen saver is enabled when I click the power button on my remote (it is one of the origional setting in sage). That way unless someone is clever, they cannot really exit sageTV- which is helpful with baby sitters and the like.

The problem is when I want to minimize sage, there is no way to do it unless I change the setting back in properties. I think it would be cool if when you clicked on the shutdown menu, that if you click sleep, it would minimize sage instead of turning on the screen saver.

Would that be possible?

Thanks

[dflachbart]

Would that be possible?


This is such a minor change (the code is already in there for certain shortcuts in 'Other Programs') that you can expect it to be in the next version :)


Dirk

[dflachbart]

I just uploaded the new version 6.8.

Changes in 6.8:

- added configuration options for Placeshifter in Detailed Setup
- added missing Play/Pause listeners
- fixed cut-off HDTV icon
- added "Show All Icons" setting to disable mutual exclusion of icons (default=off)
- added jump table for My Videos
- added ability to exclude archived shows when 'No Filter' is selected (default=off)
- favorite status can now be toggled from EPG
- added ability to delete a whole group of shows (in 'Grouped' view)
- fixed reset of watched status
- added watched length bars (default=off, can be toggled with "Info" temporarily)
- added ability to minimize on sleep (default=off)

And last but not least: I added Numeric Text Entry to all input screens, which was quite an undertaking ... :) Note: since 'Play' is used by the NTE keyboard, I changed the command for toggling lowercase/uppercase to the 'Guide' command, which most likely all of you will have mapped on the remote.


Another major (internal) change which most of you will not notice directly is that I significantly trimmed down the 'dinosaur' STV code. After I was finished with the new 6.8 features I noticed that by now the STV has reached the 5 MB barrier (the defaullt STV is 3.1 MB). So I took the challenge and carefully eliminated masses of old default STV code which is not used any more, and I was able to strip the STV size down by a whole megabyte. This should have general positive effects on the JVM, will make writing addons easier because of the much cleaner code, and was simply a necessity for adding further functionality. I do not expect any problems, but just in case I still have a backup with the full code for the worst case.

This release is kind'a major (in terms of involved work), so I will take it slower for a while with any new updates ... :D

Dirk

[geogecko]

:) Can't wait to try it out...HTPC in use right now though... :(

[toricred]

How do you turn on the watched bars?

[geogecko]

How do you turn on the watched bars?

Should be enabled by default.

SageMC Options > Main > Watched Length Bar.

[dflachbart]

Should be enabled by default.

SageMC Options > Main > Watched Length Bar.
Actually, they are disabled by default since I figured that not everyone will want to use them. Also, the color and transparency of the bars can be configured in the 'Icons' section

Dirk

[geogecko]

Hmm...mine showed up as enabled.

But, I think I understand where toricred is coming from.

I'm using the Razor theme, and Mike's selection bars, and am not seeing the watched status bars...

Could the setting be a negative mistake? Should be disabled, to actually see them?

[jagee23]

Mine was also set to Enabled by default and I am able to see the progress bar underneath my recordings. It all looks great! Thanks for all the hard work you have done.

[geogecko]

Mine was also set to Enabled by default and I am able to see the progress bar underneath my recordings. It all looks great! Thanks for all the hard work you have done.

Which theme are you using? I don't see it in Razor. I'll try changing the alpha of the bar, and see if it shows up...

[MeInMaui]

Umm...WOW. Very cool update Dirk.

The watched bars are enabled by default for me. They show up just fine. I'm using the MCE theme, but I'm not using Mike's selection bars...yet. ;)

Aloha,
Mike

[jagee23]

Which theme are you using? I don't see it in Razor. I'll try changing the alpha of the bar, and see if it shows up...
I am using the BlueTwo Metal theme with clear selection bars.

[geogecko]

Oh, never mind. I'm stupid. I wasn't going far enough in my "Recorded Shows" to see them. I have so many shows (with multiple episodes), that I wasn't seeing them.

Nice update!

[MeInMaui]

Well, I spoke a little too soon regarding the watched bars. It seems that all of my unwatched shows have a strange effect with the watched bar going to the left from the starting point. I checked and once I partially watch a show, the watched bar shows up correctly. Here is a screen shot.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5701/watchedbarproblemrl2.png (http://imageshack.us)

It does this on both my htpc and my development computer.

(Oh, and I finally got around to installing whats-his-name's selection bars. :) But this behavior occurs with the original selection bars as well. )

Aloha,
Mike

[kricker]

I got the same thing happening with my "unwatched" bars as well.
Also, in the "send to" pop-up, have you noticed the bars looked squished?

BTW, thank you soooo much for the numerical text input!!!! I also look forward to seeing the cleaned up code in Studio.

[geogecko]

Add another to the unwatched bars.

[dflachbart]

I got the same thing happening with my "unwatched" bars as well.

Can anyone send me their property file, and which theme used ? I cannot reproduce it here ...



Also, in the "send to" pop-up, have you noticed the bars looked squished?
I checked, and I must have changed the width of the dialog from 0.46 to 0.5 by accident. But you must have very sharp eyes, or do you see a bigger difference than in the attached screenshot ?

Dirk

[geogecko]

I can send it tonight, when I get home.

If someone can see that, they have sharp eyes...

[kricker]

Hehe...well I DO have sharp eyes. I am designer/animator paid to see every mis-placed pixel. But to be fair if you look at it with the Blue2 theme, it is a LOT more apparent (esp on a 60" screen). You might want to check all the pop-ups. I noticed it in one of the others last night too.

Is it the Sage.properties file you want...I can email it to you now if it is.

[dflachbart]

Hehe...well I DO have sharp eyes. I am designer/animator paid to see every mis-placed pixel. But to be fair if you look at it with the Blue2 theme, it is a LOT more apparent (esp on a 60" screen). You might want to check all the pop-ups. I noticed it in one of the others last night too.

:)

Yeah, it is a setting on a theme, so it would affect multiple dialogs



Is it the Sage.properties file you want...I can email it to you now if it is.
yep, or SageClient.properties if you use client or Sage service ...

Dirk

[kricker]

here it is.

[pjwerdna]

Hi

Just spotted a problem with channel setup...

I just set up my DVB card and have been gradually enabling channels when I'm certain they tune correctly. I've been using SageTV3dvbt.xml.

Due to using XMLTV and doing a scan for channels I have almost two of every channel sometime with slightly differant names (e.g. BBC1, BBC ONE) Sometime differant channel names but the same channel number.

Running on my client SageMC 6.8 shows the wrong channels selected. e.g. BBC ONE rather than BBC1. Where I have "39 - ABC1" and "39 abc1" (differant case) it shows both as selected though only the Captilised version is in the SageTVdvbt.xml. It also shows as selected lots of the other channels whose numbers I've yet to configure and the dvbtxml shows as unselected.

Snaps shots of client and server attached so you can see more clearly.

[dflachbart]

Add another to the unwatched bars.
I just uploaded a fix for the watched bar issue, anyone who is experiencing this problem can simply re-download. Note that this time I correctly named the xml file 'SageMC_169.xml' again (and not SageMC_169_6_8.xml) like in all other releases...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Hi

Just spotted a problem with channel setup...

I just set up my DVB card and have been gradually enabling channels when I'm certain they tune correctly. I've been using SageTV3dvbt.xml.

Due to using XMLTV and doing a scan for channels I have almost two of every channel sometime with slightly differant names (e.g. BBC1, BBC ONE) Sometime differant channel names but the same channel number.

Running on my client SageMC 6.8 shows the wrong channels selected. e.g. BBC ONE rather than BBC1. Where I have "39 - ABC1" and "39 abc1" (differant case) it shows both as selected though only the Captilised version is in the SageTVdvbt.xml. It also shows as selected lots of the other channels whose numbers I've yet to configure and the dvbtxml shows as unselected.

Snaps shots of client and server attached so you can see more clearly.
Is this a new problem with version 6.8 ?

Dirk

[Muchacho]

This is such a minor change (the code is already in there for certain shortcuts in 'Other Programs') that you can expect it to be in the next version :)


Dirk

Thanks! The new STV works great. That was pretty fast service...

I bet these suggestions would be easy for you too-

Make it so the shutdown button (same button you just fixed...) will automatically just put it into sleep, so I dont have to mess with the menu.

Add native support for movietimes

But it is great the way it is. You have made a good thing even better!

[pjwerdna]

Is this a new problem with version 6.8 ?

Dirk
It first happened in 6.6, I downloaded 6.8 to check it still had the problem.
Just checked 6.3 and it happens there too. I've not got any earlier versions saved.

Edit: Actually it happens with mlbdude's latest build (Dated 03/02/2006) as well so it's nothing you've changed.

[popechild]

Wow, very nice work.

I have been noticing one thing that I'm thinking isn't correct. I can't "left arrow" or "back" out of Other Programs. Once I'm in there, I have to hit the "Start" button to get back to the main menu. Not a big deal, but just thought I'd mention it since I think you had talked about trying to fix all the places where "left" didn't work as "back" on the menus.

Otherwise, great job!

[popechild]

Posting this in a separate post for organization:

Does anyone have any good suggestions on how to organize multi-disc dvds so that their able to still pick up the DVD Profiler information?

For instance, I have a dvd called "Ultimate Jordan" that's a two-disc set. I put it into DVD Profiler and then ripped the dvds to my harddrive, but since I can't name both dvd folders "Ultimate Jordan" I have them named "Ultimate Jordan - 1" and "Ultimate Jordan - 2". But Sage doesn't equate either of these with the "Ultimate Jordan" so while I can manually copy a cover image to the folder to get the cover, I can't get it to copy over any of the film details from DVD Profiler. I have a number of discs like this that I can't figure out what to do with. This is especially a problem for TV series on DVD. Even if there's no disc ripped to the harddrive, it's the same problem with "Offline" films. Since I can't name multiple files in the offline folder with the correct name it won't recognize them as movies from Profiler.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to name the folders whatever I want and somehow equate them with the correct Profiler entry, as this would also help me be able to organize films that come up in a strange order alphabetically according to the "official" Profiler names. (For instance, I have Seinfeld: Season 3, then Season 4, then Season 5, then Seinfeld: Seasons 1 & @). I'd like to be able to rename the last one to "Seinfeld: Season(without the extra "s") 1 & 2" so they'd show up in the correct order.

Barring the ability to "custom" name things like this, I'd at least like to find out what others have done to solve the multi-disc dilemna?

Thanks!

EDIT: I just got to thinking about whether or not I could just add multiple copies of the same movie in Profiler and rename each of them. Apparently you *can* rename movies, so that should solve my Seinfeld issue from above (Yeah!) but even if you rename them you can't add multiple copies of the same movie.

However, I found where you can add multiple discs to an individual movie, so for instance, I can add two discs to "Ultimate Jordan" and call them "1" and "2". Those individual disc names get outputted to the xml file. Think there's any way to get Sage to read those and append them to the main title?

EDIT 2: Well, found an issue related to renaming Seinfeld. The "original" files that are created using the "Offline" option in Sage are "seinfeld seasons 1 & 2.jpg" and "seinfeld seaons 1 & 2.mpg". But they're interpreted in Sage to be "Seinfeld: Seasons 1 & 2.jpg" and "Seinfeld: Seasons 1 & 2.mpg" Notice the capitalization and the ":". I have no idea how Sage knows to format them correctly, but if I simply rename the files myself to whatever I want them to be, Sage reads them exactly the way I wrote them (lowercase and without the colon). I can change the case, but have no way of adding the colon into the filename, which is why I wanted Profiler to "do it's magic" and name them for me. Unfortunately, even when I rename the file within Profiler, when it spits it out and gets turned into a .jpg and .mpg, Sage reads it exactly as it is written and no longer knows to use the capitilization or special characters. So even renaming the movies within Profiler is not working out for me.

Grrr...

[dflachbart]

I have been noticing one thing that I'm thinking isn't correct. I can't "left arrow" or "back" out of Other Programs. Once I'm in there, I have to hit the "Start" button to get back to the main menu.

Hmm, works fine for me ... Is it possible that another import is causing this ?

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Edit: Actually it happens with mlbdude's latest build (Dated 03/02/2006) as well so it's nothing you've changed.
Good ... ;) Uhm, of course not good, but given that I dont know anything about XMLTV or SageTVdvbt.xml I'm not sure if I can help ...

Dirk

[popechild]

Hmm, works fine for me ... Is it possible that another import is causing this ?

Dirk
Certainly possible. I'm running a handful of other imports (web radio, movietimes, remember video position, favorite channel lists, dvd burning). It's not a big enough deal for me to start messing with different import combinations just to get it working, so I guess for now since it's obviously not a bug that effects SageMC by itself we'll just leave it be...

Thanks for the follow up.

[jagee23]

I have noticed since version 6.8 that while I am watching live TV and press the guide button on my remote, the show no longer plays in the guide, it pauses it. Is there and option to make the show continue to play or is it something that I have screwed up? :confused:

[dflachbart]

I have noticed since version 6.8 that while I am watching live TV and press the guide button on my remote, the show no longer plays in the guide, it pauses it. Is there and option to make the show continue to play or is it something that I have screwed up? :confused:
Can you check if it is this (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=167806&postcount=538) problem ?


Dirk

[popechild]

I have about 100 dvds in My Videos. Yesterday I created two new "groups" called Watched and Unwatched and went through and added every one of the dvds to one of the two groups. After I had finished (which took quite a while) I looked at the two groups and only about half of the movies that were supposed to be in each group were still there. So I added all the missing ones again and it all seemed fine.

Today I went to look at the groups again and only about 6 movies were in each group. Ahh!!! Has anyone else tried using groups? Is this a bug?

Also, I'm still interested in any solutions people have for multi-disk dvds.

[jagee23]

Can you check if it is this (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=167806&postcount=538) problem ?


Dirk
That is what the problem was. That is odd that it was changed. I haven't been in those settings since I set up Sage....oh well, I know where to look next time if that happens. Thanks for your help.

[Ken C]

Just started using the STV and am suitably impressed !! Lots of good work here. But, of course, there is a question.

My TV - Recorded TV - Grouped - Sort by Orig is in "decending" order, from the newest down to the oldest. Anyway to sort them in "acending" order with the oldest show first ?

Ken C

[dflachbart]

That is odd that it was changed. I haven't been in those settings since I set up Sage....

Yeah, I am still pretty clueless about this. Can you tell me if you loaded the standard STV at any point ? And do you use any imports ?

Dirk

[geogecko]

Yeah, looks like it's happened to a few people. I never loaded the original STV when it happened, and I'm only using WebRadio and MovieTimes.

[jagee23]

Yeah, I am still pretty clueless about this. Can you tell me if you loaded the standard STV at any point ? And do you use any imports ?

Dirk
Same as geogecko, just the webradio and movietimes. I have also imported the sleeptimer.

[MeInMaui]

Same as geogecko, just the webradio and movietimes. I have also imported the sleeptimer.

When this happened to me, I'm pretty sure I had webradio, remember play positions, and dvd burning imports installed. Since I re-enabled 'when active' (or whatever it is called) for the windowed video display, the correct setting has stuck (as it should) after restarting sage a number of times.

Aloha,
Mike

[millers_35]

It happened to me as well and the only imports I have are: Movietimes, Webradio and Sleeptimer. But everything is fine tho, like the above poster said the setting sticks afterwards.

Miller

P.S. Happy Sys Admin Day. sysadminday(dot)com

[wbarber69]

I just upgraded to the latest build and now I can't use the winamp visualizations anymore, is there some setting that I'm forgetting or some hack that I had done a long time ago that I just don't remember. I know that everything was working before the latest upgrade, maybe I just forgot something. Can anyone help

[geogecko]

Can't use FSE mode with the Winamp plug-in.

Also, I think you have to enable it in the properties file.

However, I haven't listened to a song on my HTPC recently, so maybe it's not working anymore for me either. When I test it, I'll let you know.

[dflachbart]

Yeah, looks like it's happened to a few people. I never loaded the original STV when it happened, and I'm only using WebRadio and MovieTimes.
Mystery resolved ... :)

The WebRadio plugin is the culprit, it contains code to temporarily switch the setting to "Never", I guess for displaying the artist pic. If you quit Sage while radio is playing, the "Never" setting gets saved.

Dirk

[geogecko]

Way to go, Sherlock!

[Morgan111]

Mystery resolved ... :)

The WebRadio plugin is the culprit, it contains code to temporarily switch the setting to "Never", I guess for displaying the artist pic. If you quit Sage while radio is playing, the "Never" setting gets saved.

Dirk
Ah! You caught me. I see what you are talking about. Didn't quite look at that particular code close enough when pulling that update in from the webradio standard stv import. I will create an update to prevent that. I have had it happen to me as well.

[Franc]

I am liking the visual aspect of SageMC but I run into a lot of problems.
Like the animated menus that don't work.
Now I discovered that I can't change the channel?
I hit a number (say 4) then select/enter. It briefly shows that channel, then it changes back to whatever channel it was on.
This happens to both the client on my main machine (using the service) and in Placeshifter.

Anyone knows what I'm doing wrong?

[kricker]

-Franc
Check the SageMC settings in detailed setup. I think there is a "previous channel" setting, that should fix that.

[Franc]

-Franc
Check the SageMC settings in detailed setup. I think there is a "previous channel" setting, that should fix that.

Thanks! That solved it. Would never have thought that setting had anything to do with it :)

[bxero]

Is there something special I have to do to get this to work? I've extractced the folders into my sage directory, the files look like they are in the right places, and I've loaded the SageMC_169.xml, but I get absolutely no different functionality at all.

[mlbdude]

Thanks! That solved it. Would never have thought that setting had anything to do with it :)

It means your remote is sending two enter commands every time you push the button.

[MeInMaui]

Ok, I have an odd situation here and I'm not sure where to post about it. Since it involves the padding feature in sageMC and I'm using Dirk's version 6.8a, I figure here is as good as anywhere.

So here's the situation. I want to record a show for my 2.5 year old on the disney channel. The problem is that the guide listing is 3hrs off from the actual airing. I think they messed up the California vs. Hawaii feed. Anyway, to work around this and still have the correct show information, I set up a favorite recording with a 179 minute delay on the start time and a 181 minute delay on the end time. The settings took and it appeared in the schedule properly. Unfortunately, when it came time actually record (3 hrs after the guide listing) the entry just disappeared and the recording did not start. I know this is a strange use for the padding feature, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work. Does anyone have any thoughts? I suppose if I can't get this to work, then I can always schedule a manual recording by time. It would just be nice to have the show info for the recording. Thanks for taking the time to read this ramble.

Aloha,
Mike

[BobPhoenix]

Ok, I have an odd situation here and I'm not sure where to post about it. Since it involves the padding feature in sageMC and I'm using Dirk's version 6.8a, I figure here is as good as anywhere.

So here's the situation. I want to record a show for my 2.5 year old on the disney channel. The problem is that the guide listing is 3hrs off from the actual airing. I think they messed up the California vs. Hawaii feed. Anyway, to work around this and still have the correct show information, I set up a favorite recording with a 179 minute delay on the start time and a 181 minute delay on the end time. The settings took and it appeared in the schedule properly. Unfortunately, when it came time actually record (3 hrs after the guide listing) the entry just disappeared and the recording did not start. I know this is a strange use for the padding feature, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work. Does anyone have any thoughts? I suppose if I can't get this to work, then I can always schedule a manual recording by time. It would just be nice to have the show info for the recording. Thanks for taking the time to read this ramble.

Aloha,
MikeThis might be just a SageTV core issue. You could try with the default STV and see if it has the same problem. I suspect SageTV needs to have the start time within the actual airing time of the show but this is just a guess.

BobP.

[MeInMaui]

BobP,

What's funny is I haven't used the default STV in so long that I didn't even know that padding was available outside of sageMC or an import. I think I switched to sageMC in the first week that I bought SageTV and never looked back. I'll check out the default STV and see what happens. Thanks for the advice.

Mike

[technazz]

I had some problem also with padding. I Had padding set at 1 min before and 1 min after on favs and it caused some conflicts so I removed it in the SageMC settings. It seemed to stick to the favourites and I had to go into each fav and remove the padding manually.

Nothing big just a little bug.. or is it supposed to work this way.


technazz

[dflachbart]

I had some problem also with padding. I Had padding set at 1 min before and 1 min after on favs and it caused some conflicts so I removed it in the SageMC settings. It seemed to stick to the favourites and I had to go into each fav and remove the padding manually.

Nothing big just a little bug.. or is it supposed to work this way.


technazz
Yeah, it is supposed to work this way. The padding in the SageMC settings is only a default value for newly created favorites. Existing favorites are not affected, you will have to change the padding in the favorite screen ...

Dirk

[Jason]

Dirk-

Having played with SageMC for some time now, I was wondering if it would be possible for you to 'add' a few items...

1. Could you add your 'Grouped' filter/setting to the Movies, Schedule, and Watched screens?
2. In the Movies and Schedule screens, it lists the number of movies and recordings respectively...Could you add the number of respective titles?
3. In the Movies screen, could you add an Unwatched filter?
4. In the Movies screen, could you add a Year filter? For example, setting '2000' would filter out those movies made before the year 2000.
5. In the series settings, how can you add multiple channels to a favorite by title?
6. In the My Weather screen, can you add an option to display multiple rows/columns for the days?

These are the issues that my wife has asked about, and if I add the items myself in Studio, then I miss out on the future changes you may make... :-(

Best regards,

Jason

[scavenge]

Ok, I have an odd situation here and I'm not sure where to post about it. Since it involves the padding feature in sageMC and I'm using Dirk's version 6.8a, I figure here is as good as anywhere.

So here's the situation. I want to record a show for my 2.5 year old on the disney channel. The problem is that the guide listing is 3hrs off from the actual airing. I think they messed up the California vs. Hawaii feed. Anyway, to work around this and still have the correct show information, I set up a favorite recording with a 179 minute delay on the start time and a 181 minute delay on the end time. The settings took and it appeared in the schedule properly. Unfortunately, when it came time actually record (3 hrs after the guide listing) the entry just disappeared and the recording did not start. I know this is a strange use for the padding feature, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work. Does anyone have any thoughts? I suppose if I can't get this to work, then I can always schedule a manual recording by time. It would just be nice to have the show info for the recording. Thanks for taking the time to read this ramble.

Aloha,
Mike

I'm in Santa Monica on Adelphia and have the same 3 hours discrepancy with Disney channel program listings ...

[MeInMaui]

So here's the situation. I want to record a show for my 2.5 year old on the disney channel. The problem is that the guide listing is 3hrs off from the actual airing. I think they messed up the California vs. Hawaii feed. Anyway, to work around this and still have the correct show information, I set up a favorite recording with a 179 minute delay on the start time and a 181 minute delay on the end time. The settings took and it appeared in the schedule properly. Unfortunately, when it came time actually record (3 hrs after the guide listing) the entry just disappeared and the recording did not start. I know this is a strange use for the padding feature, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work. Does anyone have any thoughts? I suppose if I can't get this to work, then I can always schedule a manual recording by time. It would just be nice to have the show info for the recording.

This might be just a SageTV core issue. You could try with the default STV and see if it has the same problem. I suspect SageTV needs to have the start time within the actual airing time of the show but this is just a guess.

BobP.

So it does look like this is a core issue. I have also uncovered another bit of strange behavior in sageMC, but I don't know if it is worth doing anything about. I had never checked before, but I guess that sageMC does not support manual timed recordings. So, I changed over to the default STV and created a timed recording. Then I switched back to sageMC and all of the upcoming recordings disappeared! I switched back to the default STV and all of the upcoming recordings showed up again. I removed the timed recording and switched back to sageMC and everything showed up fine again. I can accept that sageMC is completely incompatable with timed recordings, but I thought it was worth mentioning. The downside is that there seems to be no way to record this show and still use sageMC.

Also, I havent tried this, but I suspect this timed recording issue could cause a problem if a client or media extender is using the default STV and is used to schedule a timed recording and the server (or even another client) is running sageMC. Just a heads up for a possible failure mode.

I guess I'll try posting in the SageTV Software forum regarding the padding issue. Thanks for the help.

Aloha,
Mike

[Surtr]

Hey guys -

I just tried installaing this and am having problems. I had SageMC running on SageClient v4 (with server v4), and recently upgraded client and server to v5. Been using the default STV since, but the old SageMV_5_10 files were still sitting in the install directory. Anyway, I unpacked the distribution zip into the sagetv directory and selected the SageMC_169.xml STV. What I get is a black screen, with some floating garbage on top and the main menu items as white text. Then any time I navigate around, new stuff shows up on top of the old without clearing the old stuff. Completely unusable. I had to modify the .stv in sageClient.properties back to the default STV just to be able to use client.

I'm fairly sure this is user error, but don't know what I did wrong.

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

-Justin

[geogecko]

Hey guys -

I just tried installaing this and am having problems. I had SageMC running on SageClient v4 (with server v4), and recently upgraded client and server to v5. Been using the default STV since, but the old SageMV_5_10 files were still sitting in the install directory. Anyway, I unpacked the distribution zip into the sagetv directory and selected the SageMC_169.xml STV. What I get is a black screen, with some floating garbage on top and the main menu items as white text. Then any time I navigate around, new stuff shows up on top of the old without clearing the old stuff. Completely unusable. I had to modify the .stv in sageClient.properties back to the default STV just to be able to use client.

I'm fairly sure this is user error, but don't know what I did wrong.

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

-Justin

Don't worry too much, that has happened to several people.

One thing I would try, is to make sure you unzipped the distribution in the correct location ../SageTV/SageTV, and make sure the check box to "Use Folder Names" is checked.

Once that is done, you should be able to load the STV (really an XML) using the interface.

If that doesn't work, let us know.

[geogecko]

So it does look like this is a core issue. I have also uncovered another bit of strange behavior in sageMC, but I don't know if it is worth doing anything about. I had never checked before, but I guess that sageMC does not support manual timed recordings. So, I changed over to the default STV and created a timed recording. Then I switched back to sageMC and all of the upcoming recordings disappeared! I switched back to the default STV and all of the upcoming recordings showed up again. I removed the timed recording and switched back to sageMC and everything showed up fine again. I can accept that sageMC is completely incompatable with timed recordings, but I thought it was worth mentioning. The downside is that there seems to be no way to record this show and still use sageMC.

Also, I havent tried this, but I suspect this timed recording issue could cause a problem if a client or media extender is using the default STV and is used to schedule a timed recording and the server (or even another client) is running sageMC. Just a heads up for a possible failure mode.

I guess I'll try posting in the SageTV Software forum regarding the padding issue. Thanks for the help.

Aloha,
Mike

Hey, Mike.

Are you using the Sage Web Server Plug-in? This will allow you to do timed recordings, however, I have no idea what it does with what you are talking about, where the upcoming recordings vanish! That's a serious problem.

I'd like to see Timed Recordings added into SageMC, just for the reason you describe, and, for the reason that there was a half hour show on a Verizon channel that wasn't listed as a seperate show, but as a segment of another show. Using the timed recording, I could have recorded the show easier, since I knew when it came on.

[Surtr]

Don't worry too much, that has happened to several people.

One thing I would try, is to make sure you unzipped the distribution in the correct location ../SageTV/SageTV, and make sure the check box to "Use Folder Names" is checked.

Once that is done, you should be able to load the STV (really an XML) using the interface.

If that doesn't work, let us know.

Thanks man. I reinstalled sagemg 5_10, then reinstalled sagemc latest. Now it works perfectly. Must've been an ebkac.

On another note, I"m loving 5.0 -- the divx transcoding to the MVP works flawlessly which I'm really psyched about. Just bummed I had to buy another license; now I have a spare client license. Oh well, I certainly don't mind shelling out $$ for a well done product.

-Justin

[dflachbart]

Then I switched back to sageMC and all of the upcoming recordings disappeared! I switched back to the default STV and all of the upcoming recordings showed up again. I removed the timed recording and switched back to sageMC and everything showed up fine again.
Hi Mike,

that sounded like a pretty severe problem so I tried it myself right away, but I can't see this behavior here on my machine (see attached pic). Which parameters did you use when you created the recording ?

Dirk

[snoopy]

Has anyone noticed that in the downloads section, the date stays the same regardless of changes to text or to the download itself? This makes finding the new files confusing if you are ever 'out of the loop' for an extended time. This is evidenced by the fact that THIS (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=37) is still the most popular version of SageMC.

[snoopy]

Is it still necessary to go back to the 'original SageMC STV' when reloading SageMC and it's add-ons from scratch? If so, could we combine both processes and files in one place? I would prefer to have one place to go and easily see all the newness that SageMC and it's add-ons have to offer.

[geogecko]

Hi Mike,

that sounded like a pretty severe problem so I tried it myself right away, but I can't see this behavior here on my machine (see attached pic). Which parameters did you use when you created the recording ?

Dirk

Hmm...I also do not seem to have the same problem. Will check when I get home to make sure that the timed recording and other recordings show up while in SageMC...

http://www.thebentzhome.com/pics/sageforum/timed.jpg

[MeInMaui]

Well, I just tried to schedule a timed recording again and this time it worked. So I did a little more fiddling and then I was able to reproduce the behavior.

It happens when the timed recording is the next scheduled recording in the queue. If there are any recordings ahead of it, everything will look fine. So Dirk, I think when your episodes of Treasure Hunters and Hell's Kitchen are completed then your upcoming recordings will disappear.:eek:

I tried to simulate that by setting up a timed recording as the second in the queue and then switched back to sageMC. Then I canceled the first recording in the queue and all of the scheduled recordings did disappear. I think this is a nasty little bug. Please try to verify my findings and let me know how it goes. Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike


Aloha,
Mike

[snoopy]

Also see above 2 posts for suggestions. I really like the option of "No Filter includes Archived = false". When I make this change, it sorts the list nicely where I can look in Archives when/if I feel like doing so but keeps them hidden for day-to-day stuff. Since we don't have individualized user capabilities in SageTV, this "psuedo folder" called archived gets well used. It still says Recorded TV (All) though which is misleading now. Perhaps it could say "Recorded TV (Without Archives)" when this option is selected.

[geogecko]

Well, I just tried to schedule a timed recording again and this time it worked. So I did a little more fiddling and then I was able to reproduce the behavior.

It happens when the timed recording is the next scheduled recording in the queue. If there are any recordings ahead of it, everything will look fine. So Dirk, I think when your episodes of Treasure Hunters and Hell's Kitchen are completed then your upcoming recordings will disappear.:eek:

I tried to simulate that by setting up a timed recording as the second in the queue and then switched back to sageMC. Then I canceled the first recording in the queue and all of the scheduled recordings did disappear. I think this is a nasty little bug. Please try to verify my findings and let me know how it goes. Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike


Aloha,
Mike

Verified.

Interesting thing is, it shows up using the Web Server, as still being there, but inside of SageMC, it's gone. Would be interesting to see if something still got recorded anyway...

[MeInMaui]

Thanks geogecko. I'm glad this isn't just another manifestation of my insanity. I suspect this is probably just a display issue, but I'm not about to risk testing that hypothesis on my main rig. My wife would be none too happy if I missed any recordings.

Aloha,
Mike

[dflachbart]

Thanks geogecko. I'm glad this isn't just another manifestation of my insanity. I suspect this is probably just a display issue, but I'm not about to risk testing that hypothesis on my main rig. My wife would be none too happy if I missed any recordings.

Aloha,
Mike
Hi Mike,

verified it too. Thanks a lot for the diagnosis, it will help me to find the cause. I think it is only a display issue, and I will take the plunge and test it with the next upcoming recording ... :D

Edit: ok due to having only 2 tuners and two upcoming shows scheduled I can't test it right now, but I will at some other time...

Dirk

[kricker]

I'll test it right now...and give my feedback. I'll take one for the team!
Ok, I made a scheduled recording for 10:00, which made it the 1st recording. Switched back to SageMC and all recordings were gone. Trying to toggle the filter just ended up giving me a very strange list of shows I never record. I left it to see what it is going to do.

Browsing using the Xbox SageTV script shows: The timed recording recorded just fine, the rest of my scheduled shows are still there.

[MeInMaui]

Thanks for jumping in on this guys. Hmmm...It's interesting how geogecko, flachbar, kricker and I always seem to converge in these forums. We better watch it or people will start asking questions.:D

OT: Kricker, I never got around to asking why you chose Mighty Mouse as your avatar. I like it! (Especially if it is a subtle play on the cat avatar theme around here)

Aloha,
Mike

[kricker]

OT: Kricker, I never got around to asking why you chose Mighty Mouse as your avatar. I like it! (Especially if it is a subtle play on the cat avatar theme around here)Kinda, but not totally. I used him in the past as an icon, back in the days when my buddies thought it was cool to use super hero logos as icons. You know, the usual...Batman...Superman...etc. Me, needing to make fun of them and having fond memories of watching Mighty Mouse as a kid, thought he'd be funny, in a cool retro kinda way. When I saw everyone using cats here, I could'nt pass up the opportunity to bring him back. Now I use him for IM icons, logon icons...you name it...Mighty Mouse can handle it. "Heeeerreee I Come to save the Daaaaaayyyyyyy"

[dflachbart]

I'll test it right now...and give my feedback. I'll take one for the team!
Ok, I made a scheduled recording for 10:00, which made it the 1st recording. Switched back to SageMC and all recordings were gone. Trying to toggle the filter just ended up giving me a very strange list of shows I never record. I left it to see what it is going to do.

Browsing using the Xbox SageTV script shows: The timed recording recorded just fine, the rest of my scheduled shows are still there.
Yep, and as soon as the timed recording starts, the schedule re-appears ...

I debugged into it, and at first glance this seemed to be a bug in the Sage core: the scheduled recording list is first filled up correctly, but a following call to sort the list according to AiringStartTime simply empties the list ... ! :confused: I checked the default STV, and sure enough, there is no sorting call. But later I found some similar sorting in the malore schedules (which seems to work), so I am back to square one. I'll look further into it when I get the time ...

Dirk

[domc]

Is there an RSS reader for SAGEMC? Blockbusters new interface now has RSS. Can I use the Default Sage RSS plugin?

[dflachbart]

Is there an RSS reader for SAGEMC? Blockbusters new interface now has RSS. Can I use the Default Sage RSS plugin?

SageMC has nielm's RSS reader built-in ... :)

Just link to 'Rss News Feeds -- nielm' via the dynamic menus


Dirk

[dflachbart]

I debugged into it, and at first glance this seemed to be a bug in the Sage core: the scheduled recording list is first filled up correctly, but a following call to sort the list according to AiringStartTime simply empties the list ... ! :confused: I checked the default STV, and sure enough, there is no sorting call. But later I found some similar sorting in the malore schedules (which seems to work), so I am back to square one. I'll look further into it when I get the time ...

Figured this one out. It actually is some problematic code in the STV, but it's still weird that it only manifests itself when manual recordings are present. Anyway, this will be fixed in the next version. Until then, I can assure you that this is only a display thing, no scheduled recordings would get missed ...

For the ones who cant wait and are familiar with Studio: find all three occurences of

Schedule = DataUnion(UnresolvedConflicts, Schedule)
and replace them with

Schedule = If(Size(UnresolvedConflicts) > 0, DataUnion(UnresolvedConflicts, Schedule), Schedule)

Dirk

[kricker]

Thanks, I'll give that a whirl later tonight.

On a related question, how do you make a timed recording in SageMC? I had to switch to the standard stv to find the option.

[dflachbart]

On a related question, how do you make a timed recording in SageMC? I had to switch to the standard stv to find the option.
Yeah, his is the only way to do it right now ...

Dirk

[kricker]

Ok, just checking. I made the changes and here is the file, as long as flachbar doesn't mind me posting it, 'til the next version is out. There are two files; one for just the stv, and one for the stv with webradio and movietimes already imported.

SageMC 16x9 vs 6.8
SageMC_16x9_timer_remix.xml

SageMC 16x9 vs 6.8+webradio+movietimes - timer remix
SageMC_16x9_wr_mt_timer_remix.xml

[snoopy]

There was a module back in the Malore days called Malore's custom menu or something like that. It was essentially a custom "guide" of upcomming shows and movies that could be sorted and grouped in any concievable manner. I think we had 5 custom guides set up at one point that we used rarely at that time due to my wifes understanding of SageTV. Now that we are both veterans of this way of life, it would be great to have it back.

Specifically,
I would like especially to have way to list movies between say 2005-2006 as not the 'first air' date but the date the movie was released. Apparently the info is there to be sorted. Star ratings was also something nice he added which you did as well Dirk. I would love to have an easy way to search for upcomming movies and filter by 'release date' as opposed to 'first air date' if possible.

[Jason]

I would like especially to have way to list movies between say 2005-2006 as not the 'first air' date but the date the movie was released. Apparently the info is there to be sorted. Star ratings was also something nice he added which you did as well Dirk. I would love to have an easy way to search for upcomming movies and filter by 'release date' as opposed to 'first air date' if possible.

Kind of like what I was referring to in #4 from this post?

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=168946&postcount=599

-Jason

[snoopy]

Absolutely YES! Those Malore special menu's were even more extensive than what you listed. You could really 'granularize' the search for new shows and movies with it. It was really slick. He kept adding to it all the time. I just asked Malore in both forum and PM about this as it seems he has just become active again. I suspect we will see some activity there. I would never consider abandoning SageMC for such a feature. I can't even imagine life without SAGEMC. It's just so much better than the 'old way' I am referring to with Malore but this one set of guides as an add-on was some kind of slick. Now that my wife and I are both SAGEMC Vetrans, we're ready!Kind of like what I was referring to in #4 from this post?

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=168946&postcount=599

-Jason

[MeInMaui]

Figured this one out. It actually is some problematic code in the STV, but it's still weird that it only manifests itself when manual recordings are present. Anyway, this will be fixed in the next version. Until then, I can assure you that this is only a display thing, no scheduled recordings would get missed ...


Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. The twins are taking up a lot of time! Thanks for taking the time to get to the bottom of this Dirk. Much mahalos (thanks).

Aloha,
Mike

[horseflesh]

Say, any chance for rolling in .edl support for commercial skipping? A new comskim stvi was just released to support the new commercial timing file format but I am leery of installing it since it SageMC already has some kind of comskip support in it. That seems like asking for trouble. :)

[geogecko]

Would it make a difference? Is the edl file supposed to be more accurate or something? I know that SA can already do this file type as well...

[scm]

Yes, supporting edl files would make a difference. Sundansx, the author of the new stvi, explains the problem with txt files as follows:'

From READ ME with comskip_pb_imp_edl_dly.stvi
The old comskip stvi used the .txt files generated by showanalyzer to grok commercial segments. These files used framed number indexes to indicate segments and as a result Sage had to know the framerate of the video to calculate the timeindex to Seek() to when jumping around. The comskip NTSC or PAL setting in sage is how it calculated these values. That worked ok, unless you had mixed PAL and NTSC shows, or worse yet, HDTV shows that were 60 frames per second. I have some of those, and commercial skip was not useful. Enter .edl...
.edl files contain time offsets, so with a simple time unit adjustment (sage talks in miliseconds and .edl talks in seconds) Sage can almost use these numbers directly. The files were in a slightly different format than .txt files.

.edl support would increase accuracy of commercial skipping in HD files. It is the only thing standing in the way of me using SageMCE.

[geogecko]

Hmm...not a bad idea, but this probably would need to be selectable in the option settings in SageMC, and default to txt files. That way, people that don't want to change their comskip/SA setup, will not be affected, but those that want to use EDL files could switch over to them.

[blade]

I believe edl is also more accurate with SD files because it outputs the time of the skip instead of the frame. There was a lot of talk about the subject awhile back, but I don't recall all the details.

The SageMC comskip doesn't (at least older versions didn't) temporarily disable skipping when you press custom 4, which is really annoying. There was a bug with the temporary disabling in the old comskip import that would turn it off instead of temporarily disabling it. It was fixed in the edl comskip import. Also there was a problem with a never ending commercial loop at the beginning and end of certain shows using comskip and the old import that was fixed with the edl import.

The problem is it can only use .edl and not .txt files. Even if SageMC continues to support .txt files instead of .edl it would be nice if the bug fixes in the .edl capable import were added to SageMC.

[dflachbart]

Thanks, I'll give that a whirl later tonight.

On a related question, how do you make a timed recording in SageMC? I had to switch to the standard stv to find the option.
Just as a follow up: you can schedule a timed recording from within SageMC, when I cleaned up the STV I left those standard screens in there ... :) So if you dont mind the 'Theme' mismatch, you can simply create a new 'My Menu' item and link it to the Internal screen 'Manual Recordings'. Just note that the code to exit the menu screen seems to be missing, so after you have selected "Once/Daily/Weekly" the recording has been created, but you will remain on this screen, and you have to go to a different menu manually. I will add a link to the main menu in the next version as a workaround.

Dirk

[kricker]

Cool, Thanks for the info. I don't think I have ever made a timed recording, so I am in no hurry for it as others maybe. If we need new graphics to skin that screen, maybe Mike or myself can whip something up for you.

[toricred]

I'd definitely second adding support for the edl files.

[toricred]

I've now manually added the edl comskip code after removing the old code. It works OK, but the timebar isn't displaying right. If I can get that fixed, I'll see if I can get an import made and credit to the original author.

[horseflesh]

I've now manually added the edl comskip code after removing the old code. It works OK, but the timebar isn't displaying right. If I can get that fixed, I'll see if I can get an import made and credit to the original author.

Nice, looking forward to it. :)

[toricred]

I've got the timebar working now. The import may take a week or so since I don't have much time other than weekends.

[scm]

I've got the timebar working now. The import may take a week or so since I don't have much time other than weekends.


WOW, that is incredible. Thanks for the work on this. I can't wait to try it.

[toricred]

Flachbar suggested I just post the modified xml file. Here it is.

Wait a minute, there seems to be a problem. I'll work on troubleshooting and post when I have the bugs worked out.

The bugs are that it works for the first file, but then quits working at all.

[geogecko]

Flachbar suggested I just post the modified xml file. Here it is.

Wow, any reason this file is like 1/5th the size of the original? Does taking the txt code out make it that much smaller?! :eek:

[toricred]

It looks slightly larger to me. Remember that I'm only putting the actual xml, not all the rest of the STV.

[geogecko]

Oh, could be the way it's compressed, I was actually only looking at the zip file size...

[toricred]

I used 7-Zip. I hope that doesn't cause any problems.

[toricred]

By the way, let me know if it works for you. It worked perfectly for me last night, but today after I added my own plugin it only wants to work for the first commercial. When I revert to the one without my plugin, it seems to work fine.

[geogecko]

Which plugin?

[toricred]

It's called osdclock. It worked fine with the original STV and the original SageMC. With the changes I posted, it breaks the commercial skipping.

[toricred]

OK, I'm out of time to troubleshoot this for the next few days. I'm going back to flachbar's SageMC for now. Hopefully he'll have better luck adding it for a future version.

I'll try to get back on it this weekend, but I'm just hacking at the comskip code so it might take a while.

[MeInMaui]

Dirk,

Could I bother you with a feature request?

Background:

I was looking through the intelligent suggestions in sageMC...1519 of them. Since our recordings are quite varied between my preferences, my wife's, and the childrens' shows for our son, the suggestions are all over the map. With so many suggestions to wade through, the feature just isn't very useful to me as it is.

Request:

I was wondering if it might be possible to add a button to group the intelligent suggestions by genre and by title in additiion to the existing time sorting. This would greatly help in zeroing in on the types of shows I might be interested in.

Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike

[dflachbart]

Dirk,

Could I bother you with a feature request?

Background:

I was looking through the intelligent suggestions in sageMC...1519 of them. Since our recordings are quite varied between my preferences, my wife's, and the childrens' shows for our son, the suggestions are all over the map. With so many suggestions to wade through, the feature just isn't very useful to me as it is.

Request:

I was wondering if it might be possible to add a button to group the intelligent suggestions by genre and by title in additiion to the existing time sorting. This would greatly help in zeroing in on the types of shows I might be interested in.

Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike
Hi Mike,

actually I never used this view much, and now that I think about it probably because of the same reasons you mentioned ... Really good idea ! You are lucky, I was just about to wrap up the new version, but I think I can still try to stick this in there if it doesn't turn out to be too complicated ... :)

Dirk

[Jason]

I was wondering if it might be possible to add a button to group the ...

Adding in the various sorting/fintering options to the varied screens is a great idea! ;)

I'm always up for adding a 'Watched' filter to the various Movies screen (up next, all upcoming, etc)...

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=168946&postcount=599

-Jason

[dflachbart]

Adding in the various sorting/fintering options to the varied screens is a great idea! ;)

I'm always up for adding a 'Watched' filter to the various Movies screen (up next, all upcoming, etc)...

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=168946&postcount=599

-Jason
Jason,

I didn't ignore your list completely, and I'm sure you'll be somewhat pleased ... :D


Dirk

[CPA]

I just started using SageMC 16x9 and am loving it. I have a couple of issues however. In the "Favorites" or "Series" section, where you can choose what channel you want the favorite to record on, I only have the choice of "any" and one other channel, even though I know the program airs on other channels in my lineup. For instance I select Monday Night Countdown as a favorite, an even though I know it airs on both ESPN and ESPN-HD, I am only offered ESPN and "Any". Any ideas?

[MeInMaui]

Hi Mike,

actually I never used this view much, and now that I think about it probably because of the same reasons you mentioned ... Really good idea ! You are lucky, I was just about to wrap up the new version, but I think I can still try to stick this in there if it doesn't turn out to be too complicated ... :)

Dirk

Awesome. Thanks Dirk. As always thank you very much for all your time and effort.

Aloha,
Mike

[dflachbart]

5. In the series settings, how can you add multiple channels to a favorite by title?


Hi Jason,

this is not possible because the Sage core does not support it, any favorite can only have one channel criteria. You could try to set up multiple favorites for the same show, but I'm not sure if it will work ...

Dirk

[Jason]

Hi Jason,

this is not possible because the Sage core does not support it, any favorite can only have one channel criteria. You could try to set up multiple favorites for the same show, but I'm not sure if it will work ...

Dirk

I figured as much, but I was hoping... :bang:

-Jason

[dflachbart]

I uploaded SageMC version 6.9. This update made a lot of changes to existing code necessary, so let me know if something else (in the STV or with other imports) got broken.


Ascending/Descending sort

I added an option to the date sorts ('By Date' and 'Grouped') to sort the output in ascending or descending order. The option can be changed by invoking the options menu while the corresponding sort button has the focus. The options menu is now focus sensitive, so the existing options for the default filter can be changed when the 'Filter' button has focus.


Grouped sort for all views

The 'Grouped' view is now available consistently for all views including the 'Schedule' and 'Movies' screen. On the 'Information' screen a new 'Grouped Watch History' is also available.


Changes to the Movies menu

The 'Movies' menu now has a 'Watched' filter, and a 'Sort By Year' option. If sorted by year, the movie titles in the list will include the release year of the movie.


EDL Comskip support

I updated/cleaned up the existing comskip code and added support for using .edl files instead of .txt files. SageMC will automatically detect if an .edl file is present and use it for commercial skipping. If not, the .txt will be used as usual, so no configuration or conversion of existing .txt files necessary. I also added the start/stop delay (available in the Comskip options page) which will work for both .edl and .txt files. Thanks to sundansx for the STVi code, and toricred for motivating me to finally attack this stuff.


Show all days in 'My Weather' forecast

I added an option to display all 10 days (in 2 rows) instead of the scrolling list of 4 days to the 'My Weather' forecast screen. The option can be configured in the 'My Weather' options menu.


Bug fixes for OSD animations and Music Queue

I rewrote the code to display OSD menu animations, it will now be executed in a separate thread and might fix the 'stutter' issue experienced by some of you. These changes also fixed the problem of the Options menu not showing up correctly even if animations had been disabled. I also finally fixed the problem with the Music queue in the Music library, queue manipulation (incl. adding songs to the queue while playing) should now work correctly.


Extended channel options for Favorites

The Favorite editor now allows to choose from all channels the show is airing on. In addition, after cycling through those airing channels the remaining channels will also be available for selection (indicated by a '!' in the channel name). This is helpful if you want to configure the favorite for a channel on which it is currently (based on the available EPG data) not airing.


Added time bar to additional info

Up to now, on the 'Program Info' screen the 'Info' button brought up an additional info including the extra airing details and the external Show ID of the program. I added the graphical display of the time bar (similar to the one in the OSD menu) so that you can easily check the commercial skip / watched status without having to actually play the recording


Enhanced IR Suggestions menu

I added 'Sort by Date' / 'Sort By Title' / 'Group by Genre' functionality to the Suggestions listing so that this view will hopefully get more useful (thanks Mike).


.my file support

.my file support (known from the GermSage STV) has been added to the 'Program Info' menu. You can either create a .my file manually, or create it for a TV recording by selecting the corresponding option from the 'Send To' options menu. If .my file support is enabled (disabled by default) and a .my file is present for a file in the video library, the show information will be displayed from this file. The implementation supports the standard .my file attributes (Title, Overview, Actors, Released), as well as almost all other show info available for regular Sage TV recordings.

This is feature is especially neat if you are compressing your Sage recordings and don't want to lose the show information, the videos should show up in the Video library almost the same as before. To ease this process, you can enable the automatic .my file generation for TV recordings, which will periodically scan any new recordings (every 5 minutes) and generate a corresponding .my file if not already present. In addition, an automatic cleanup can also be configured which will delete all .my files for which no media file is present any more.


Some other minor changes in this version:

- "Record" button will not be shown in prog info if show is already recording
- modified menu title if "without archive" option is enabled
- added 'Delete All Playlists" item in Playlist manager
- added setting for commercial breaks alpha value
- fixed timed recording issue


Enjoy,

Dirk

[geogecko]

Wow, nice upgrade. It may be a while before trying all the features, but I'll let you know if there are any problems.

Great job.

[kricker]

Did my graphical tweaks make it in?? :)

[StephaneM]

Hello Dirk,



EDL Comskip support

I updated/cleaned up the existing comskip code and added support for using .edl files instead of .txt files. SageMC will automatically detect if an .edl file is present and use it for commercial skipping. If not, the .txt will be used as usual, so no configuration or conversion of existing .txt files necessary. I also added the start/stop delay (available in the Comskip options page) which will work for both .edl and .txt files. Thanks to sundansx for the STVi code, and toricred for motivating me to finally attack this stuff.


I don't know if you have noticed but in previous Comskip implementation there was an error about padding and I made a correction for this. Basically the "start" padding was taken into account so as the commercial that starts before the padding in "truncated" to the start of the program, but the length of the commercial was not taking into account the padding : as a result the commercial is displayed as if it is longer than it should be (in fact the commercial block is just "shifted" to the program start).

The correction is easy, for any widht set for commercial block you should use this : =Max(0,Min(1.0,(GetElement(commercials,num+1) - Max(GetElement(commercials,num),GetAiringStartTime(GetCurrentMediaFile())))*1.0/GetAiringDuration(GetCurrentMediaFile())))

The key here is Max(GetElement(commercials,num),GetAiringStartTime(GetCurrentMediaFile())), it select the max between the program start or the commercial start, effectively reducing the length of the block.

I've also made another enhancment : Right and Left key used to respectively to skip forward the commercial block and skip backward the commercial block (so it is the same as Custom4 and Custom5 command but without needing another remote mapping as left and right key are not used in the player). I just copied over the exact same STV code to replace the "PassiveListener" used for Left / Right.

Don't know if you can make it through the next version, I think it's a nice addition.

Regards,
Stéphane.

[bcjenkins]

I've also made another enhancment : Right and Left key used to respectively to skip forward the commercial block and skip backward the commercial block (so it is the same as Custom4 and Custom5 command but without needing another remote mapping as left and right key are not used in the player). I just copied over the exact same STV code to replace the "PassiveListener" used for Left / Right
I too would appreciate this. I am not an ardent user of comskip due to the misdetection of files. I am still learning to use it. I would like to be able to use it on a manual basis like indicated above.

TIA

B

[toricred]

The Options key no longer seems to work while playing a video. Is it just me?

[geogecko]

I've also made another enhancment : Right and Left key used to respectively to skip forward the commercial block and skip backward the commercial block (so it is the same as Custom4 and Custom5 command but without needing another remote mapping as left and right key are not used in the player). I just copied over the exact same STV code to replace the "PassiveListener" used for Left / Right.

I like this idea too!

[geogecko]

The Options key no longer seems to work while playing a video. Is it just me?

;) It's just you! It appears to work for me, the one that lets you change aspect ratios and auto com skip and what not?

What imports do you have? I've got WebRadio, MovieTimes, and WebServer on my system.

[StephaneM]

I like this idea too!
I attached the XML I'm using with these modifications (Left/Right for skipping and correction for commercial block), this is otherwise the 6.8 version.


Regards,
Stéphane.

[dflachbart]

Hello Dirk,

I don't know if you have noticed but in previous Comskip implementation there was an error about padding and I made a correction for this.

Hi Stephane,

never noticed this, but now that you point it out I remember these odd breaks at the beginning of files ... I just tried your changes, and I found a recorded file where the incorrect break at the beginning is indeed gone. It seems that the break (which is completely inside of the padding) now doesn't show up at all any more, but I guess this really doesnt matter at all. Thanks a lot for pointing this out ! :thumb:


I've also made another enhancment : Right and Left key used to respectively to skip forward the commercial block and skip backward the commercial block (so it is the same as Custom4 and Custom5 command but without needing another remote mapping as left and right key are not used in the player). I just copied over the exact same STV code to replace the "PassiveListener" used for Left / Right.


Awesome idea, never thought about that the left/right listeners are not used at all, they are just the perfect choice for this function !


Don't know if you can make it through the next version, I think it's a nice addition.

I think too, and everyone can get this by re-downloading 6.9a ... :)

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Did my graphical tweaks make it in?? :)
Oh indeed, I completely forgot to mention that kricker pointed out some changes which make the button graphics of certain menus much cleaner ... Thanks again :thumb:

Dirk

[CPA]

I am afraid I was not very clear. I don't mean that I want to record the same show from multiple channels, but I do want to set it up to recod from one channel of my choice. Right now it is not giving me all the choices that I know are available. I want it to record Monday Night Countdown on ESPN-HD not ESPN. But it is only giving me the option of ESPN and any. In the old STV you could restrict it to record from the channel of your choice. Any help?

[JUC]

The Options key no longer seems to work while playing a video. Is it just me?


Same here and this is running with no plugins...
JUC

-i haven't upgrared since 6.3 but i really like the changes!! Thanks

[CPA]

Well I upgraded to 6.9a and the channel selection functionality for favorites came back. No worries!

On another subject, I would like to request a feature for the music section. It would be great if you could add an "add to que" button for the genre section. I love the fact that you can send the entire catalog of mustiple artists to the que, this would be the same thing but for genre. Right now you can really only listen to one genre at a time. This is a function that J River offers that, for me, would really complete the SageMC music section. That and maybe a "Now Playing" screen with larger album artwork and track info.

Thanks for the great STV. Really makes Sage more functional and enjoyable to use.

[dflachbart]

Same here and this is running with no plugins...
JUC

-i haven't upgrared since 6.3 but i really like the changes!! Thanks

Does this happen on the MVP ?


Dirk

[JUC]

yes--so far I've only checked the MVP.
JUC

[dflachbart]

yes--so far I've only checked the MVP.
JUC

Can you try the attached version ?


DirK

[bcjenkins]

In the stock stv you press the major number pound sign minor to tune HD channels. This does not seem to work in 6.9a, 6.9, or 6.8. I just started using this stv with 6.8.

TIA

B

[dflachbart]

In the stock stv you press the major number pound sign minor to tune HD channels. This does not seem to work in 6.9a, 6.9, or 6.8. I just started using this stv with 6.8.

TIA

B

On which screen in the default STV can I find this functionality ?

Dirk

[Opus4]

Do you mean pound sign, or asterisk? On the 45 button Hauppauge remote, the asterisk (labeled 'Text') is mapped to the newer Dash command & that is included as part of the channel entry process in the STV. But, the only thing the default STV is doing to handle the Dash is to remove it from the string when checking to see if a max-length channnel number has been entered. Search for "Size(java_lang_String_replaceAll(NumericEntry, "-", ""))", or some part of that string, anyway. It will be under various Numbers listeners.

- Andy

[dflachbart]

Do you mean pound sign, or asterisk? On the 45 button Hauppauge remote, the asterisk (labeled 'Text') is mapped to the newer Dash command & that is included as part of the channel entry process in the STV. B

Hi Andy,

so where does HD channel tuning happen in the default STV ? I do not have HD channels (nor do I know about channel tuning in general), and in order to find out why this functionality is missing in SageMC I need to locate the corresponding code in the default STV ...

Thanks,

Dirk

[JUC]

Can you try the attached version ?


DirK


Can't until tonight--but if noone replies by then I will let you know.
Thanks,
JUC

[Opus4]

so where does HD channel tuning happen in the default STV ? I do not have HD channels (nor do I know about channel tuning in general), and in order to find out why this functionality is missing in SageMC I need to locate the corresponding code in the default STV ...For what you are looking for, it is pretty much where I mentioned above -- under the Numbers listeners on various screens.

I just realized that it may use some other variable than "NumericEntry", as listed in my above post. You can probably just search for "-" (including quotes). That will find other dashes, but it should find all the listeners, including those for the guide & playback screens.

There really isn't anything special done to change to any HD channels -- it just uses ChannelSet(), like any other channel number.

- Andy

[dflachbart]

There really isn't anything special done to change to any HD channels -- it just uses ChannelSet(), like any other channel number.


Arghh, I must have sounded pretty stupid ... :bang: I thought he meant something like 'fine' tuning of channel frequencies, and not simple channel changing ... ;). Thanks Andy, with this info I should be able to find the corresponding code

Dirk

[bcjenkins]

Do you mean pound sign, or asterisk? On the 45 button Hauppauge remote, the asterisk (labeled 'Text') is mapped to the newer Dash command & that is included as part of the channel entry process in the STV. But, the only thing the default STV is doing to handle the Dash is to remove it from the string when checking to see if a max-length channnel number has been entered. Search for "Size(java_lang_String_replaceAll(NumericEntry, "-", ""))", or some part of that string, anyway. It will be under various Numbers listeners.

- AndyI am sorry, I should have specified. I am using the MCE remote, and it is the "#" key that adds the "-" to the channel changing for HD channels.

Thanks,

B

[toricred]

Does this happen on the MVP ?


Dirk

Mine is on the server. Is there a setting I may have messed up to disable it?

[dflachbart]

Mine is on the server. Is there a setting I may have messed up to disable it?
No, there is no setting which would do that. Can you try the version I attached in my previous post too and see if this solves it ?

Thanks,

Dirk

[ellweber]

Added time bar to additional info

Up to now, on the 'Program Info' screen the 'Info' button brought up an additional info including the extra airing details and the external Show ID of the program. I added the graphical display of the time bar (similar to the one in the OSD menu) so that you can easily check the commercial skip / watched status without having to actually play the recording

I am particularly eager to see this but I can't! I have looked at settings and properties but I don't see any that would explain why I do not see this new feature. Is it, perhaps, related to the recordings screen style or???

Any clues as to why this isn't showing up would be greatly appreciated.

See attached for config and example of what I am seeing.

Thanks,
Lynn

[dflachbart]

I am particularly eager to see this but I can't! I have looked at settings and properties but I don't see any that would explain why I do not see this new feature. Is it, perhaps, related to the recordings screen style or???

Any clues as to why this isn't showing up would be greatly appreciated.

See attached for config and example of what I am seeing.

Thanks,
Lynn
Hi Lynn,

no there are no separate configuration settings for this feature, it should simply work when you press the "Info" button on the remote. Did you try the keyboard (ctrl-i, or whatever key you have assigned in the SageTV 'Commands' setup) ?

Dirk

[ellweber]

My error. I just never have used the ""Info" button before so I missed that that was the key and had expected the time bar to be there all the time. Thanks for straightening me out Dirk.

Lynn

[JUC]

Can you try the attached version ?


DirK


Dirk, the Options command now works with verions b...
Thanks,
JUC

[popechild]

Awesome update!! You've been hard at work... A few questions:

Oh indeed, I completely forgot to mention that kricker pointed out some changes which make the button graphics of certain menus much cleaner ... Thanks again :thumb:

Dirk
1. I'm confused. Does this mean that the icons that come with your zip are krickers? Or are the changes you're talking about within the .stv? If I want to use Maui's graphics and icons, should I not install the icons in your zip and just install the .xml?

2. I like the option to show the timebar in the show details page. However, is there a way to "set it" so you don't have to hit Info each time? If I close Sage and restart, it is defaulting back to not showing it and I have to hit Info again, unlike in the Recordings page where Info will toggle the timebars, but they'll stay enabled if I have them enabled in the settings. In addition, could we include the timebars in the "My TV" page next version since we now have it in Recordings and individual show pages? It doesn't seem to be applied there...

3. Commercial Skip. I may have this wrong, but I've always assumed that the "Commercial Skip" settings within the Sage "Settings" page don't have anything to do with the way SageMC works. That is to say, I set up SA or CS on my own outside of SageMC (manually or using DirMon) to create the .txt or .edl files, and then SageMC will grab them if Commercial Skip is enabled in the Options menu when I'm watching a show. Is this still the case, or do the Commercial Skip "settings" do something now? (I got this from your post above about the delay times, which I assume you mean are modified in these settings?) If they *do* do something, I'm not sure I know what to do with the "Background Commercial Processing." Do I need to hook it in somehow to my install of CS or SA? Are these settings only good for NTSC/PAL, or do they also impact ATSC (HD)?

Thanks!

[toricred]

Dirk, the Options command now works with verions b...
Thanks,
JUC

Works for me too. Thanks.

[geogecko]

Cool, never knew about the timebar "info" thing on the program details. That's a nice feature, especially if you want to check if the commercial detection has been done for a file.

[dflachbart]

1. I'm confused. Does this mean that the icons that come with your zip are krickers? Or are the changes you're talking about within the .stv? If I want to use Maui's graphics and icons, should I not install the icons in your zip and just install the .xml?


Sorry for the confusion, I should have been more clear: this version does not contain any new graphics, I simply reassigned some of the existing button graphics to certain OSD menus based on krickers suggestions.


2. I like the option to show the timebar in the show details page. However, is there a way to "set it" so you don't have to hit Info each time? If I close Sage and restart, it is defaulting back to not showing it and I have to hit Info again, unlike in the Recordings page where Info will toggle the timebars, but they'll stay enabled if I have them enabled in the settings. In addition, could we include the timebars in the "My TV" page next version since we now have it in Recordings and individual show pages? It doesn't seem to be applied there...

Both has been added to 6.9b :)



3. Commercial Skip. I may have this wrong, but I've always assumed that the "Commercial Skip" settings within the Sage "Settings" page don't have anything to do with the way SageMC works. That is to say, I set up SA or CS on my own outside of SageMC (manually or using DirMon) to create the .txt or .edl files, and then SageMC will grab them if Commercial Skip is enabled in the Options menu when I'm watching a show. Is this still the case, or do the Commercial Skip "settings" do something now? (I got this from your post above about the delay times, which I assume you mean are modified in these settings?) If they *do* do something, I'm not sure I know what to do with the "Background Commercial Processing." Do I need to hook it in somehow to my install of CS or SA? Are these settings only good for NTSC/PAL, or do they also impact ATSC (HD)?

Thanks!
Well, the 'Background Commercial Processing' setting is supposed to schedule and run comskip from within SageMC. I have never looked at that code in detail and dont know if it works, but if you have set up Dirmon this setting is definetly irrelevant. The other three settings are used in SageMC for the skipping process:

- start delay will show a certain amount of the detected commercial beginning
- stop delay will show a certain amount of the detected commercial end

Similar settings are available in SA during detection, but there it only works for .txt files, the settings in SageMC will also work for edl

- broadcast type is needed for .txt files to calculate the commercial times based on the frame rate (25 / 29.97). If you use edl, this setting has no effect.

Hope this helps,

Dirk

[dflachbart]

I am sorry, I should have specified. I am using the MCE remote, and it is the "#" key that adds the "-" to the channel changing for HD channels.

Thanks,

B
I added the corresponding code from the default STV for "-" handling in SageMC 6.9b. Give it a try and let me know if it works now ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Due to the problems some folks had with the OSD options menu, I uploaded a new version with a few changes/fixes:

- fixed issue with OSD options menu
- added default STV code to handle "-" when tuning channels
- made 'Additional Info' setting sticky
- watched bars can now also be displayed on the My TV menu

And, as a hidden gem, I extended certain functionality of SageMC (which I didn't even know about until today when I stumbled upon the corresponding code, but others may may have used it already...). In fact, I personally think that this is one of the most useful features I added to SageMC - ok, others may disagree ... ;)

And to be mean, I won't mention what it is for now, let's see if anyone is able to discover it ... :D


Dirk

[Vlar]

Wow, its hard to believe SageMC has come this far! :goodjob: Each new build brings great improvements that I never even knew I wanted, but always so happy to have! :thumb:

One request I'd like to throw in that I think may be easy to replicate.. the way the My Music thumbnail view brings up a popup on the right edge with a rolodex type of navigation (alpha) to skip to the start of a certain letter in the title. Could this be added to the My videos thumbnail view as well? This would certainly speed up navigation if you have many vids. Perhaps much of the same code could be used as well.

Thank you for the builds!

[popechild]

Wow, its hard to believe SageMC has come this far! :goodjob: Each new build brings great improvements that I never even knew I wanted, but always so happy to have! :thumb:

One request I'd like to throw in that I think may be easy to replicate.. the way the My Music thumbnail view brings up a popup on the right edge with a rolodex type of navigation (alpha) to skip to the start of a certain letter in the title. Could this be added to the My videos thumbnail view as well? This would certainly speed up navigation if you have many vids. Perhaps much of the same code could be used as well.

Thank you for the builds!
Try hitting "right" when you're on the right side of a screen in My Videos. Bingo! I believe this was added 1 or 2 revs ago.

[kricker]

I can enable .my file generation, but I can not enable cleanup of orphaned .my files.

[geogecko]

And to be mean, I won't mention what it is for now, let's see if anyone is able to discover it

Shuffle in My Music? I don't remember seeing that recently? Easter Eggs drive me crazy!

[dflachbart]

I can enable .my file generation, but I can not enable cleanup of orphaned .my files.

Yeah sorry, typo in property name ... If you need this feature just re-download the file.

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Shuffle in My Music? I don't remember seeing that recently? Easter Eggs drive me crazy!

Nah, but here's a little hint: something in the TV section ... :)


Dirk

[geogecko]

Nah, but here's a little hint: something in the TV section ... :)


Dirk

I'll be looking for it tonight, if any of you all find it, please post!!! :D

This is kind of fun...or is it? :bang: :jump:

[Jason]

Dirk-

Thnaks for the additions...!:cool:

I did have one small bug to report, however. In the Movies section, after applying the unwatched filter, I still see movies that have been watched...

Here is a screen cap...

-Jason

[JUC]

one quick request--in the music section when sorting by artist--can you add the alphabet list when you press right (like you did when sorting by album)?..and Movies now too! Its possible this is already in there because so much has been added recently its hard to keep up....
thanks,
juc

[jagee23]

I am having a little problem with the upcoming recording reminder.
When watching a show on a different channel 5 minutes before a recording should start, instead of popping up the menu with the choice of staying on the current channel or changing it, it shows up as a tiny dot in the middle of the screen. If I press up or down on the remote I can see the options but sometimes that dot is not as easy to see depending on what I am watching. Is there any way to make that menu show full instead of the dot? Thanks!

[popechild]

one quick request--in the music section when sorting by artist--can you add the alphabet list when you press right (like you did when sorting by album)?..and Movies now too! Its possible this is already in there because so much has been added recently its hard to keep up....
thanks,
juc
If you "View by Album" / "Sort by Artist" you can use the alphabet list to search on artist name...

[popechild]

By the way, flachbar, the re-threading the music section worked great! I've always had the problem of the very slow pop-up when trying to play music, but it works great now!

[geogecko]

By the way, flachbar, the re-threading the music section worked great! I've always had the problem of the very slow pop-up when trying to play music, but it works great now!

Yep, noticed this too. Thanks!!! :D

[dflachbart]

By the way, flachbar, the re-threading the music section worked great! I've always had the problem of the very slow pop-up when trying to play music, but it works great now!

Good to hear ! :)

Dirk

[pjwerdna]

Anybody else having trouble changing aspect ratios?

I've found that switching to 16x9 only seems to work reliably when Full has been selected first. Even then sometime I have to actually use back or the option button before the ratio changes.

This is with 6.8. Doesnt seem to happen with the standard stv.

[JUC]

If you "View by Album" / "Sort by Artist" you can use the alphabet list to search on artist name...

Yes, but it is still cumbersome to navigate through alot of artists if you have multiple albums for each. A View by Artist alphabet list would be great to ease the search.
thanks,
juc

[dflachbart]

I am having a little problem with the upcoming recording reminder.
When watching a show on a different channel 5 minutes before a recording should start, instead of popping up the menu with the choice of staying on the current channel or changing it, it shows up as a tiny dot in the middle of the screen. If I press up or down on the remote I can see the options but sometimes that dot is not as easy to see depending on what I am watching. Is there any way to make that menu show full instead of the dot? Thanks!

Hi jagee23,

did you download version 6.9b ? It includes a fix for the OSD menu problems some were experiencing, maybe your issue is related ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Dirk-

Thnaks for the additions...!:cool:

I did have one small bug to report, however. In the Movies section, after applying the unwatched filter, I still see movies that have been watched...

Here is a screen cap...

-Jason

Hi Jason,

I found what's causing this (it only happens on movies with multiple airings). You can re-download the STV if you want to get rid of the problem.

Dirk

[popechild]

Yes, but it is still cumbersome to navigate through alot of artists if you have multiple albums for each. A View by Artist alphabet list would be great to ease the search.
thanks,
juc
Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. Aren't you asking for the ability to pull up the alphabet on the right side and use it to search by artist name? If you are, you can do exactly that. If it's something else, I'm not understanding...

[JUC]

Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. Aren't you asking for the ability to pull up the alphabet on the right side and use it to search by artist name? If you are, you can do exactly that. If it's something else, I'm not understanding...


I'm probably just not making sense. If you go to the My Music section and view by Artist there is no alphabet on the right side. This is what I would like to see.

I think what you are saying is to view by album, then sort by artist...in which case you can bring up the alphabet on the right side.

Juc

[popechild]

I'm probably just not making sense. If you go to the My Music section and view by Artist there is no alphabet on the right side. This is what I would like to see.

I think what you are saying is to view by album, then sort by artist...in which case you can bring up the alphabet on the right side.

Juc
Gotcha. Um, yeah, that's not in there... :)

[popechild]

Think I found a bug flachbar...

Since downloading 6.9b (not sure about earlier 6.9 builds) I can't seem to use the "Guide" button to pull up the EPG while watching a show (live or recorded). The "Guide" button still jumps to the EPG from every menu I've tried like it should, it just isn't doing anything anymore when I'm watching tv.

I do have the Favorite Channels List plugin installed - don't know if that should make a difference - I've been using it with 6.8 without any problems...

Thanks!

[dflachbart]

Think I found a bug flachbar...

Since downloading 6.9b (not sure about earlier 6.9 builds) I can't seem to use the "Guide" button to pull up the EPG while watching a show (live or recorded). The "Guide" button still jumps to the EPG from every menu I've tried like it should, it just isn't doing anything anymore when I'm watching tv.

I do have the Favorite Channels List plugin installed - don't know if that should make a difference - I've been using it with 6.8 without any problems...

Thanks!
Yes, it is possible that the FCL plugin is causing this (I'm not using it, and the Guide button works fine here). Some of the Themes in 6.9 have been renamed, and I think FCL is using at least one of them. I already emailed Bob about this issue, but he probably just didn't have time to look at it yet ...

Dirk

[zeltak]

I think what you are saying is to view by album, then sort by artist...in which case you can bring up the alphabet on the right side.

Juc

I would also love an option like that if there was an alphabet on one of the sides and i could just press X and it automaticlly jumps to x :)

great work flachbar, couldnt use SageTV without your work!

Zeltak

[Madcoder]

Yes, it is possible that the FCL plugin is causing this (I'm not using it, and the Guide button works fine here). Some of the Themes in 6.9 have been renamed, and I think FCL is using at least one of them. I already emailed Bob about this issue, but he probably just didn't have time to look at it yet ...

Dirk

Yes, I can confirm this error too with the FCL. I also notice that the button to customize the favorites channels under the detailed setup, customize screen is offset incorrectly in the pane on the right side of the screen.

[BobPhoenix]

Yes, it is possible that the FCL plugin is causing this (I'm not using it, and the Guide button works fine here). Some of the Themes in 6.9 have been renamed, and I think FCL is using at least one of them. I already emailed Bob about this issue, but he probably just didn't have time to look at it yet ...

DirkI'll look at this tonight and see what is up.

[bcjenkins]

I added the corresponding code from the default STV for "-" handling in SageMC 6.9b. Give it a try and let me know if it works now ...

Dirk
Hi Dirk,

The "-" now appears, but it is not working the way the standard STV does. For instance I tried changing to 4-1 this morning by pressing 4#1(Enter) on the MCE remote. The stations did something but then ended up back on the same channel I was on. In the stock STV this would have changed me to 4-1. Please let me know if I should be changing channels in a different fashion.

TIA

B

[JUC]

Has anyone found dirk's little easter egg he left us?

[VikingCrown]

I've been able to get Flachbar's MCE working on my PC by changing the line in the SageClient.Properties file to include .xml, however I cannot get it to recognize anything other than .stv files on my mvp, how can I fix this?

[kricker]

I have a different watched issue. When sorting a show by "orig", sometimes marking a show watched will cause the items to change their order (ie. 3 and 5 will switch places). It seems to happen when two or more things have the same original air date, due to the guide not getting the right info.

[Madcoder]

The search filter option under the My TV menu seems to have a different look than I remember. Is that the Easter egg, or did that change some time back and I didn't notice? I don't use search so often.

[dflachbart]

The search filter option under the My TV menu seems to have a different look than I remember. Is that the Easter egg, or did that change some time back and I didn't notice? I don't use search so often.

Do you mean the 'select-as-you-type' in "Search By Title" ? No, this has been changed in some earlier version ...

:)


Dirk

[Madcoder]

Do you mean the 'select-as-you-type' in "Search By Title" ? No, this has been changed in some earlier version ...

:)


Dirk

Oh, ok. Well, you make so many updates, it is like Easter eggs everywhere for me. :D

[heffe2001]

Oh, ok. Well, you make so many updates, it is like Easter eggs everywhere for me. :D

Yeah, what he said :). The EDL support & left & right arrow to jump over commercials are easter egg enough for me :).

[BobPhoenix]

Think I found a bug flachbar...

Since downloading 6.9b (not sure about earlier 6.9 builds) I can't seem to use the "Guide" button to pull up the EPG while watching a show (live or recorded). The "Guide" button still jumps to the EPG from every menu I've tried like it should, it just isn't doing anything anymore when I'm watching tv.

I do have the Favorite Channels List plugin installed - don't know if that should make a difference - I've been using it with 6.8 without any problems...

Thanks!I have a change that flachbar sent me that will fix one of the links in the import that is broken but there are many others that I will have to figure out as well. I'm surprized my FCL plugin even imported at all frankly. It may be the weekend before I get this updated.

BobP .

[bcjenkins]

Hi all,

Since I am not using comskip to detect commercials, I am a little confused how to turn on support for the EDL files that SA outputs in this STV. Can someone elaborate for me?

TIA

B

[dflachbart]

Hi all,

Since I am not using comskip to detect commercials, I am a little confused how to turn on support for the EDL files that SA outputs in this STV. Can someone elaborate for me?

TIA

B
Hi bcjenkins,

it doesnt matter if you use Comskip or SA, SageMC will use the .edl file automatically if it finds it. No configuration necessary ...

Dirk

[BobPhoenix]

I have a change that flachbar sent me that will fix one of the links in the import that is broken but there are many others that I will have to figure out as well. I'm surprized my FCL plugin even imported at all frankly. It may be the weekend before I get this updated.

BobP . Well this wasn't as big a problem as I thought. Apparently when imported and a link is missing the import code does not link further code. That is why I saw so many links missing. When I fixed the link point that flachbar told me about the rest then worked fine. Anyway just download the FCL plugin again and install the 6.9b version included in the download.

BobP.

[something fishy]

Is there any chance that a switch could be added to stop the back button taking you to video. For example if I finish watching something and lazily press back (when I really mean take me to menu) the last few builds have taken me to live TV.

I can't remember when this started to happen but it hadn't used to be the case (or I wouldn't have developed the bad habit).

Cheers
Eric

[VikingCrown]

I've been able to get Flachbar's MCE working on my PC by changing the line in the SageClient.Properties file to include .xml, however I cannot get it to recognize anything other than .stv files on my mvp, how can I fix this?

Anyone? Or is this a dumb question that I should know the answer to? I did search and couldn't fing anything for what its worth.

~Brian

Nevermind, I forgot to edit the properties file in the Clients folder too, my mistake!

[geogecko]

Is there any chance that a switch could be added to stop the back button taking you to video. For example if I finish watching something and lazily press back (when I really mean take me to menu) the last few builds have taken me to live TV.

I can't remember when this started to happen but it hadn't used to be the case (or I wouldn't have developed the bad habit).

Cheers
Eric

You know, I noticed this too, and I think the change happened, when the feature to go back to the previous menu (or something similar) after hitting stop twice, got implemented.

The way it used to work, if you hit stop x 2, is that it would go the main menu. Now, no matter what that setting (the one about where it should end up after hitting stop x 2), it appears to go to either LiveTV, or just the menu before the show.

I'm so used to hitting "back" to get to the main menu, that I always end up in LiveTV.

So, to summarize, this is the way I think the feature was supposed to be implemented:
If the option to return to previous menu (sorry, I do not remember what it is called, since I'm at work) is set, it should go to the menu item just before the show detail. If not set, it should go back to the main menu.

[geogecko]

Anyone? Or is this a dumb question that I should know the answer to? I did search and couldn't fing anything for what its worth.

~Brian

Nevermind, I forgot to edit the properties file in the Clients folder too, my mistake!

Yep, gets me every time too...

[ellweber]

Hi Dirk,

SageMC just keeps getting better, the "polish" it adds to Sage is really great to watch and to use.

I do have a request that came from a conversation with a friend that now uses Sage but previously had a lot of experience with Replay TV. The behavior of the "Com. Auto Skip" option during playback currently is a set and remember function. A configurable option to have the user choose whether it starts out enabled, not enabled, or last state each time you begin playback of a recording but be turn-off-able during that recording's playback would be useful. That way you could start out using CS or SA generated files to skip commercials but disable (or enable) it, only for the duration of the current recording, should the detection be faulty for that recording. This would be really good for me, where SA does a great job on most of what I watch but only occasionally fails to correctly detect the commercial segments. It wold be nice to have it work without intervention, except for those few problematic recordings.

Also, are you planning to include the commercial segment marker transparency parameter in the SageMC Options:Colors screen? It is nice not to have to stop Sage to edit the properties file!

Thanks,

Lynn

[dflachbart]

The way it used to work, if you hit stop x 2, is that it would go the main menu. Now, no matter what that setting (the one about where it should end up after hitting stop x 2), it appears to go to either LiveTV, or just the menu before the show.

I'm so used to hitting "back" to get to the main menu, that I always end up in LiveTV.

Hi geogecko and something fishy,

I am still a little confused... Do you mean that after hitting stop twice (once to show the 'Stop' dialog, and a second time while in this dialog) it goes back to live TV ? I noticed this sometimes too, and I think the reason is (the STV simply issues a 'Back' command) that for some reason a manu triggering LiveTV seems to be next in the chain. But this should not happen if you disable the setting 'Back On Stop', then it always executes the direct link to the Main Menu. I tried this here several times, and it works as expected.

Or do you means that pressing the "Back" button doesnt work ? If so, from which menu ?

For the issue in the Stop dialog I'll try to find a solution, maybe I can inspect the Sage back history and skip to the next non-LiveTV menu ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

I have a different watched issue. When sorting a show by "orig", sometimes marking a show watched will cause the items to change their order (ie. 3 and 5 will switch places). It seems to happen when two or more things have the same original air date, due to the guide not getting the right info.
So this happens on recordings with the same Original Air date, and the sort order is Original Air date ? Well, my guess is that the watched status does affect how the Sage core engine (which performs the sort) returns recordings which are equal according to the sort key... I will have to verify this, but in that case there is not much SageMC can do, it simply calls the SageTV sort API ...

Dirk

[kricker]

So this happens on recordings with the same Original Air date, and the sort order is Original Air date ? Well, my guess is that the watched status does affect how the Sage core engine (which performs the sort) returns recordings which are equal according to the sort key... I will have to verify this, but in that case there is not much SageMC can do, it simply calls the SageTV sort API ...

Dirk
I'll test this in the standard stv to see what happens when I get some free time again.

[dflachbart]

Hi Dirk,

The "-" now appears, but it is not working the way the standard STV does. For instance I tried changing to 4-1 this morning by pressing 4#1(Enter) on the MCE remote. The stations did something but then ended up back on the same channel I was on. In the stock STV this would have changed me to 4-1. Please let me know if I should be changing channels in a different fashion.

TIA

B
I think I found something in the SageMC code which could be related to this problem. Can you try the attached version and let me know if this fixes it ?

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Hi Lynn,


Hi Dirk,

SageMC just keeps getting better, the "polish" it adds to Sage is really great to watch and to use.

Thanks :)


I do have a request that came from a conversation with a friend that now uses Sage but previously had a lot of experience with Replay TV. The behavior of the "Com. Auto Skip" option during playback currently is a set and remember function. A configurable option to have the user choose whether it starts out enabled, not enabled, or last state each time you begin playback of a recording but be turn-off-able during that recording's playback would be useful. That way you could start out using CS or SA generated files to skip commercials but disable (or enable) it, only for the duration of the current recording, should the detection be faulty for that recording. This would be really good for me, where SA does a great job on most of what I watch but only occasionally fails to correctly detect the commercial segments. It wold be nice to have it work without intervention, except for those few problematic recordings.


So you mean that the functionality to enable/disable commercial autoskip in the OSD options menu while playing a video is not sufficient ?



Also, are you planning to include the commercial segment marker transparency parameter in the SageMC Options:Colors screen? It is nice not to have to stop Sage to edit the properties file!

You mean the alpha transparency value ? This should already be in there, do you have the latest version (6.9b) ?

Dirk

[ellweber]

So you mean that the functionality to enable/disable commercial autoskip in the OSD options menu while playing a video is not sufficient ?

It is sufficient, but I would prefer to use it in a mode where the selected default mode restores at the end of each recording. Not a big deal certainly but nice to have!


You mean the alpha transparency value ? This should already be in there, do you have the latest version (6.9b) ?
I do have 6.9b. There are two properties in the sageclient properties file:
sagemc/commercial_breaks_alpha=xx and
sagemc/watched_bar_alpha=yy
that relate to transparency. On my system I am only seeing the watched_bar setting on the SageMC options:colors page. See attached.

[dflachbart]

It is sufficient, but I would prefer to use it in a mode where the selected default mode restores at the end of each recording. Not a big deal certainly but nice to have!

I'll think about it ... ;)


I do have 6.9b. There are two properties in the sageclient properties file:
sagemc/commercial_breaks_alpha=xx and
sagemc/watched_bar_alpha=yy
that relate to transparency. On my system I am only seeing the watched_bar setting on the SageMC options:colors page. See attached.
Hmm, this is weird. Sure you scrolled down all the way ? It should be below the watched bar alpha ...

Dirk

[geogecko]

Hi geogecko and something fishy,

I am still a little confused... Do you mean that after hitting stop twice (once to show the 'Stop' dialog, and a second time while in this dialog) it goes back to live TV ? I noticed this sometimes too, and I think the reason is (the STV simply issues a 'Back' command) that for some reason a manu triggering LiveTV seems to be next in the chain. But this should not happen if you disable the setting 'Back On Stop', then it always executes the direct link to the Main Menu. I tried this here several times, and it works as expected.

Or do you means that pressing the "Back" button doesnt work ? If so, from which menu ?

For the issue in the Stop dialog I'll try to find a solution, maybe I can inspect the Sage back history and skip to the next non-LiveTV menu ...

Dirk

Dirk.

No, I haven't been seeing it go from the Stop dialog back to LiveTV. What happens is, no matter what setting that "back on stop" is set to, it never seems to go back to the main menu, from what I can remember... What would happen to me, is I'd exit the show, by hitting stop twice, and then I'd hit back to try and get back out to the main menu, instead of pressing menu, because that's how I used to do it. But, when I hit back, it then goes to LiveTV, like you said.

I will have to experiment with this. It may have something to do with selecting a show while in the menu right after "My TV," versus going "My TV > Recordings" and then selecting a show. I'll let you know later tonight...

[dflachbart]

Ok, since nobody seems to find it (or maybe you all did but thought "nah this is too lame this can't be the easter egg...) I'll let you off the hook ... :D

SageMC has (and had in the past, but I never knew about this until a few days back) the following functionality: if you are on the TV Subgroup screen (e.g. you selected a title from a recording list sorted by title or grouped which has multiple recordings), and then bring up the 'Program Info' for one recording, you can 'scroll' through the info of all other recordings of this group by using the <skip fwd> and <skip back> buttons. Pretty cool, if you didn't know about it ...

I have now taken this one step further and implemented scrolling through the Program Info for any recording list :) . So if you perform a search and get a list of recordings as a result, or you bring up the IR suggestions list, or the Movies list, etc. - once you go into the 'Program Info' screen for a recording you can scroll through the detailed info of all other recordings in the base list by using the skip buttons.

I have found myself flipping back and forth constantly between Program Info and recording list when looking at Movies or Suggestions, and now being able to remain on the Info screen and just scroll through the list is pretty neat in my opinion ... :) Just note that if you select a recording from a group, it will only go through the other members of that group (you can still scroll through the whole list if you select an item in the base list which only has a single entry).

Dirk

[geogecko]

Oh, that's awesome. Never knew about it. We frequently look at the descriptions of the many shows of a program that has recorded, and look for one that looks good to watch at that particular moment. This will speed things up, instead of having to go into each detail, because sometimes the description gets cut off on the non detail page.

Nice.

[ellweber]

Now I see it, sorry I didn't look more carefully and thanks for the help.

Lynn

[kricker]

I have now taken this one step further and implemented scrolling through the Program Info for any recording list :) . So if you perform a search and get a list of recordings as a result, or you bring up the IR suggestions list, or the Movies list, etc. - once you go into the 'Program Info' screen for a recording you can scroll through the detailed info of all other recordings in the base list by using the skip buttons.
DirkI never would have found this. How cool is that though. I'll probably use it every day now!

[MeInMaui]

I never would have found this. How cool is that though. I'll probably use it every day now!

ditto

[geogecko]

Dirk.

Okay, I figured it out. With "Back on Stop" diabled, when I hit stop x 2, it does go to the main menu, as it's supposed to. However, if I hit stop, and delete the show, then it is going to the previously viewed menu.

I'm not sure how others feel about it, but it might be nice to tie A) Stop x 2 with B) Stop & Delete (or other fuction in that menu), together, so that no matter what, you always either get back to the main menu, or you get back instead.

Does that make since?

So, in my case, I'd want to see the main menu, after deleting something, not be back one menu.

[bcjenkins]

I think I found something in the SageMC code which could be related to this problem. Can you try the attached version and let me know if this fixes it ?

Dirk
Hi Dirk,

I am not going to be home until Aug 26. I will try at that point.

Thanks again for the help.

B

[popechild]

Ok, since nobody seems to find it (or maybe you all did but thought "nah this is too lame this can't be the easter egg...) I'll let you off the hook ...
Dirk
Ahh, like Tivo - although they use the ch+/- buttons to scroll through programs. Very handy, especially when you want to find a specific episode of a show you have multiple episodes of...

[dflachbart]

Dirk.

Okay, I figured it out. With "Back on Stop" diabled, when I hit stop x 2, it does go to the main menu, as it's supposed to. However, if I hit stop, and delete the show, then it is going to the previously viewed menu.


Hmm, are you sure about that ? I just checked the code, and in the deletion case there is actually no "back" processing at all. It is hardcoded to always go to the "Recorded TV" screen if the deleted file was a TV recording, or to the 'My Videos" screen if it was a library file. I thought this behavior made sense, but if you guys think the My TV screen would be better we can talk about it ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Is there any chance that a switch could be added to stop the back button taking you to video. For example if I finish watching something and lazily press back (when I really mean take me to menu) the last few builds have taken me to live TV.

I can't remember when this started to happen but it hadn't used to be the case (or I wouldn't have developed the bad habit).

Cheers
Eric

Hi Eric,

I think your issue is different than geogecko's since you are talking about pressing the "Back" button ? SageMC does not 'interpret' the back command, it simply passes it on to the Sage core, which goes back to whatever it thinks is the previous called menu. I might be able to skip live TV by doing the back processing on my own and looking at the back history ...

Dirk

[Jason]

Dirk-

A few more issues that may need some attention...

1. I still have a wierd 'watched when the watched filter is set' issue as shown in cap #1.
2. A few of the IR suggestions screens and info screens are not formatted correctly as shown in caps 2 & 3.

-Jason

[kricker]

Hmm, are you sure about that ? I just checked the code, and in the deletion case there is actually no "back" processing at all. It is hardcoded to always go to the "Recorded TV" screen if the deleted file was a TV recording, or to the 'My Videos" screen if it was a library file. I thought this behavior made sense, but if you guys think the My TV screen would be better we can talk about it ...

Dirkno no no please no.......I love it how it is. I'd hate it the other way.

[dflachbart]

Dirk-

A few more issues that may need some attention...

1. I still have a wierd 'watched when the watched filter is set' issue as shown in cap #1.


Yeah, I noticed it was in more than one place, and I missed the RecordedTV screen. Will get fixed in the next update


2. A few of the IR suggestions screens and info screens are not formatted correctly as shown in caps 2 & 3.
-Jason
Very weird, never saw this on my machine (see attached screenshot). What are your 'Left Menu Width' / 'Right Pane Width' ? Mine are set to 0.26 / 0.71, but this should affect all menu screens, so I have no idea why you are seeing it only on certain menus ...

Dirk

[toricred]

I also noticed that on the guide by channel the header is messed up.

[dflachbart]

I also noticed that on the guide by channel the header is messed up.

Can you post a screenshot ? I just checked, looks fine for me ...


Dirk

[snoopy]

The Series screen (sub-menu on the Schedule screen) and the Search screen, both choices from the "My TV" screen, are a little redundant. If tweaked a little, they could be combined and simplified together in one place. I humbly suggest the following:

The Search screen contains all the same options (category, title, and keyword) that the Series screen does with the exception of 'by actor' which would not be hard to add. SageMC doesn't need a separate location for Series because anytime you search for category, title, keyword, etc, you have the option of choosing to record either one episode or the series if you want.

I am humbly suggesting we think about combining them and here is my thought process to date.

1) Rename Series screen to Favorites Manager
Rename the Series screen to "Favorites Manager" or "Season Pass Manager" or something and list that data just as it is listed now on the Series screen under Schedule.
Leave the left side options behind as they exist elsewhere.
The options that were to the left of the Series screen (now called "Favorites Manager") or at least the three of them (new by title, category, keyword) can be left behind as those items already appear on the Search screen complete with their ability to add either as a single show or a Favorite. The only thing that might have to be moved would be the new by Actor choice (better still add some others - new by year, premiers (already somewhere), star rating, channel, etc).

3) Create a FIND STUFF choice on the My TV Screen (combines 'Movies', 'Guide(s)', 'Search', and 'New Suggestions')

Move 'Search' into it (with the same already existing options 'by title', by category', 'by keyword', etc)
Move 'Movies' into it.
Move the 'Guide' into it (even move Malore's Guides into it if you wish - more on that later as he has a SageMC ready version available).
And How about that FIND STUFF for a catchy name? Move the countless other methods that are sure to unfold regarding how to FIND STUFF into it.
Move 'New Suggestions' (now under 'Schedule') into it and consider renaming 'Schedule' to 'Upcomming Schedule' or 'Current Schedule'

[toricred]

Can you post a screenshot ? I just checked, looks fine for me ...


Dirk

It's only when the clock format is set to date and time.

[dflachbart]

It's only when the clock format is set to date and time.

Yeah, never used this format myself. This issue has actually always been in SageMC, and the date also bleeds into the Main menu items if you have more than 7 items enabled. Not sure yet how to approach this ...


Dirk

[toricred]

I didn't realize it was the format of time until you asked for the screen shot. I can live with it now that I know to change to time only.

[geogecko]

Hmm, are you sure about that ? I just checked the code, and in the deletion case there is actually no "back" processing at all. It is hardcoded to always go to the "Recorded TV" screen if the deleted file was a TV recording, or to the 'My Videos" screen if it was a library file. I thought this behavior made sense, but if you guys think the My TV screen would be better we can talk about it ...

Dirk

Oh, so that's it. I figured it was just a back, but it looks like you're right. It does always go back to Recorded TV. I think that's fine, I was just confused about the difference between pressing stop twice, or deleting the show I was watching.

I guess either way is fine with me, but it appears that *someone* else likes it that way. That's fine. Now that I understand where it is going, it's not that bad.

In a way, I guess you couldn't make it "back" on deletion, because that screen wouldn't exist after you delete it!

[kricker]

...but it appears that *someone* else likes it that way...:D I'm not just a *someone*, I'm a *somebody* too.......I've also been called various other things I rather not post ;)

[geogecko]

:D I'm not just a *someone*, I'm a *somebody* too.......I've also been called various other things I rather not post ;)

How'd you know I was talking about you?! :eek: Yes, you are something...I mean, someone, very special. After all, you gave me my SageTV main menu icon... :D

[MeInMaui]

sniff sniff.....I'm feeling a little like the ex- here. :p

[kricker]

sniff sniff.....I'm feeling a little like the ex- here. :p
...more like I am a fleeting mistress, and you are the loyal wife producing many wonderful offspring. :)