STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[geogecko]

Weather Suite, I believe, can be enabled in the "Options" on the main menu. Hit the option key on your remote, or ESC.

Dynamic Menues...well, you have 3 custom menus which you can customize, check out Settings, Detailed Settings, Advanced, SageMC Options (near the bottom), and the Menu section.

[geogecko]

Clean install of Sage fixed the coverart problem!!! Imported Webserver too with no problems. Awesome. What a great feature.
JUC

Oh, man...not looking forward to it, but I'm getting play back errors frequently now.

So, you had to install Sage, Webserver, SageMC, 6.x, etc?

Wow, guess when Justice is over, I'll have to start.

[Lostinpvr]

Weather Suite, I believe, can be enabled in the "Options" on the main menu. Hit the option key on your remote, or ESC.

Dynamic Menues...well, you have 3 custom menus which you can customize, check out Settings, Detailed Settings, Advanced, SageMC Options (near the bottom), and the Menu section.
Thanks,
But with SageMC 16x9 can you no longer import an option like Multi-speed continuous FF-REW module which is a .stvi file type since the only choice for import is .xml or is something broke?

In the options there was not a choice for weather, I had to go in to the properties file and change:
mlbdude/mm_weather_enabled=False
To
mlbdude/mm_weather_enabled=true. This activated the weather option.
Are dynamic menu's built in now.

[technazz]

Clean install of Sage fixed the coverart problem!!! Imported Webserver too with no problems. Awesome. What a great feature.
JUC


WHat do you consider a clean install? Uninstall, Save Wiz.bin and properties file, Reinstall Sage then Sage MC?


Technazz

[kricker]

WHat do you consider a clean install? Uninstall, Save Wiz.bin and properties file, Reinstall Sage then Sage MC?


Technazz
That's what I did, except I forgot to backup either Sage properties files, and Had to reset those up (oh well).

[geogecko]

Clean install of Sage fixed the coverart problem!!! Imported Webserver too with no problems. Awesome. What a great feature.
JUC

No dice for me.

Reinstalled everything. Sage, SageMC, Webserver, MT, WR. Still don't get it.

What version of Java you got?

[geogecko]

That's what I did, except I forgot to backup either Sage properties files, and Had to reset those up (oh well).

I think uninstalling actually leaves files like that there. Did you manually delete the sagetv folders?

I made backups just in case something got jacked up, but everything was still in tact after uninstalling and reinstalling...

I guess a clean installation, you'd want to delete everything, but I wasn't that brave...

Giving up for the evening...

[technazz]

I think uninstalling actually leaves files like that there. Did you manually delete the sagetv folders?

I made backups just in case something got jacked up, but everything was still in tact after uninstalling and reinstalling...

I guess a clean installation, you'd want to delete everything, but I wasn't that brave...

Giving up for the evening...


I kept going.. A full reinstall and now I have automatic cover art

I backed up my Sage Folder then Uninstalled Sage,
Deleted the Sage folder then Installed Sage,
Replaced the wiz.bi, (not the properties)
nstall Sage MC 5.1 then 6.1.
Added my Videos and Recording Dir and the cover art started coming fast. It gave my HD a workout..

Now I can sleep..

Technazz

[geogecko]

So, are favorites stored in the Wiz.bin?

Technazz. So that means you basically had to set everything back up, since you didn't restore your properties file, right? Setting up your tuners, libraries, etc.?

[Kirby]

So, are favorites stored in the Wiz.bin?

Technazz. So that means you basically had to set everything back up, since you didn't restore your properties file, right? Setting up your tuners, libraries, etc.?

Yes favorites are in there. By not restoring the properties file, he had to re setup all his tuners and channel lineups and recording/import directories, etc. I did the same thing when I upgraded (reinstalled) because I didnt want all the old junk in there that I had messed with.

[JUC]

I did everything technazz did except I did copy back over my properties file and also my clients file for my MVP properties.

So basically:
copy sagetv folder for backup purposes
uninstall sagetv
delete sagetv folder (i had to restart the computer because something else was running)
reinstall sage
install sage MC 5_10, 6_10 (latest dev. build)
install webserver
copy over properties file and clients folder
start up sage
and it worked.

edit: oh ya--copies over the channel logos folder too! gotta have that!

I think the trick was deleting the sagetv folder
One thing I did notice is that my actisys that controlls one of my directv boxes stopped working after the reinstall. Not sure why but i had to go back and reteach it my codes. no biggie
JUC

[geogecko]

Thanks, guys. I'll give it a try either late tonight, or this weekend...

I've got properties file backups from version 3 on up...:nono:

[kricker]

Yes favorites are in there. By not restoring the properties file, he had to re setup all his tuners and channel lineups and recording/import directories, etc. I did the same thing when I upgraded (reinstalled) because I didnt want all the old junk in there that I had messed with.Exactly. I did the same thing for the same reasons. It didn't take too long to resetup Sage and SageMC.

[kricker]

The resolved conflicts icon is wrong. It is using the online.png instead of the conflict_resolved.png. And I think the online icon is actually using the conflict_resolved.png.

here is a version of the .xml with those issues fixed

[MeInMaui]

Poor Dirk is going to be mobbed the second he shows back up around here.
That'll learn 'im not to go on vacation and leave us to our own devices....:D

[geogecko]

Are the learned commands for the USB-UIRT stored in some file? I'd like to back that up as well, so I don't have to learn all my remote commands again.

[Kirby]

Are the learned commands for the USB-UIRT stored in some file? I'd like to back that up as well, so I don't have to learn all my remote commands again.

sage.properties (or sageclient.properties depending on your system) to my knowledge.

[geogecko]

I could have sworn it was a different file, possibly in the sagetv/common/ directory?

[Lostinpvr]

Since I reinstalled SageMC 16x9 I have had this small problem.
Can anyone think of a reason why I can't get past the source setup screen in the setup wizard, I can click on "Finish Source Setup" all day long and it will not go to the next screen. I am trying to get to the weather setup but it won't do it.

[evilpenguin]

For the setup wizard you're probably better off switching back to the default STV, setting everything up, and then switching back to SageMC.

[Kirby]

I could have sworn it was a different file, possibly in the sagetv/common/ directory?

A sniplet from my sageclient.properties file:

ui/rc_mappings/0=73976870158837,
ui/rc_mappings/1=73976870143477,
ui/rc_mappings/2=73976534599157,
ui/rc_mappings/3=73976786257397,
ui/rc_mappings/4=73976584930805,
ui/rc_mappings/5=73976853382645,
ui/rc_mappings/6=73976517838325,
ui/rc_mappings/7=73976803050997,
ui/rc_mappings/8=73976601724405,
ui/rc_mappings/9=73976534614517,
ui/rc_mappings/back=73985179062773,
ui/rc_mappings/ch_down=73976853386485,
ui/rc_mappings/ch_up=73976517842165,
ui/rc_mappings/delete=36292477912513,
ui/rc_mappings/dont_like=73976584934645,
ui/rc_mappings/down=27487834800320,73976517821685,
ui/rc_mappings/ff=23089748050172,73976853370357,


i think you are thinking of .IR files for other setups. But if you just learned commands in the Sage gui through the USB UIRT, they will be in the props file.

[Lostinpvr]

For the setup wizard you're probably better off switching back to the default STV, setting everything up, and then switching back to SageMC.

Do you mean change from the SageMC_169.xml back to SageTV3.xml and then back again?
:confused:

[Kirby]

Here's a good one... I just scheduled Sage to record US Open tennis on Universal HD tonight, and viewing the info, up pops cover art! Wow! Impressive huh? Problem is its for Walt Disney's: The computer wore tennis shoes! :D

[geogecko]

A sniplet from my sageclient.properties file:



i think you are thinking of .IR files for other setups. But if you just learned commands in the Sage gui through the USB UIRT, they will be in the props file.

Thanks Kirby. Looks reasonable. I can just copy and paste that then from my backup of the properties file. Then I won't have to do that all over again.

[Opus4]

A .IR file would be used if the IR codes were learned for the purpose of controlling an STB using the USB-UIRT as a blaster. The IR codes in the properties file are for remote control of SageTV itself.

- Andy

[geogecko]

Thanks Andy. That makes since.

[Kirby]

A .IR file would be used if the IR codes were learned for the purpose of controlling an STB using the USB-UIRT as a blaster. The IR codes in the properties file are for remote control of SageTV itself.

- Andy

Thats what I meant to say ;)

[zuzzu]

Here's a good one... I just scheduled Sage to record US Open tennis on Universal HD tonight, and viewing the info, up pops cover art! Wow! Impressive huh? Problem is its for Walt Disney's: The computer wore tennis shoes! :D

Heres another good one ... when viewing info for the children's cartoon Arthur, the art that shows up is for the movie Arthur, complete with Dudley Moore lounging around in a bathtub!

[Kirby]

I can hardly wait for a time when the IMDB search returns a porn cover for something non-porn related! :rofl:

[kricker]

I can hardly wait for a time when the IMDB search returns a porn cover for something non-porn related! :rofl::rofl:..... Didn't think of that.

[JUC]

A .IR file would be used if the IR codes were learned for the purpose of controlling an STB using the USB-UIRT as a blaster. The IR codes in the properties file are for remote control of SageTV itself.

- Andy


Which would explain why I had to reprogram my actisys...makes sense to me

[geogecko]

:jump: 2.5 hours and 2 minutes later, and I'm finally back to where I was when I started.

And :jump: :jump: :jump: I now get IMDB Coverart for my TV shows now!

Thanks for all the help guys. Now I have a nice clean install of SageTV.

Now, watch, 5.1 will be out tomorrow...:nono:

[kricker]

Good to hear it.
I have gone back and actually disabled the automatic IMDB for now. I was getting sooo many wrong covers, it was going to confuse the wife for sure.

[MeInMaui]

Hi Everyone,

Just a heads up. The initial test release of the new genre icons is now avaiable for download here (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=114) in case anyone is interested. :D

Aloha,
Mike

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads/genre-icons-screen-shot-1_8BI.png

[JUC]

Those are NICE!!!!!

[MiGster]

I'm trying to edit sage.properties according to ml_dudes instruction for SageMC so I can import my DVD profiler collection but whenever I make edits and save then go into Sage they get deleted fron the sage.property file.

Here are the instructions I'm trying to do:

In order for SageMC to import meta-data from DVD Profiler there are a few things that must be configured.

Export your collection to XML to a location that is accessible via UNC or local drive letters for any of the PC that will import meta-data. Only PC's that are importing need to be able to access the collection XML. PC's that are just viewing meta-data via SageMC do not need be able to read from the collection XML.
Close SageTV to edit the properties file. Open the correct properties file - sage.properties for SageTV not running in service mode, and sageclient.properties for SageTV running in service mode.
Edit or add the following properties:

Required:

mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml= This is the path to the collection XML from DVD Profiler. Make sure you have all the backslashes correct. Here is mine as an example: "mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml=D:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\collection.xml".
Optional:
mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root= This is used to point to your DVD Profiler installation. If this is NOT set auto thumbnail image importing will not work. Here is mine as an example: "mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=D:\Program Files\InterVocative Software\DVD Profiler

I have read almost all info on SageMC but find the configuring very confusing thus far. I also would like to put a "My Movies"main menu option in the main start menu, not sure how to do this either??? And I would like to import my movie folders on my hard drives. They are configured by each movie having it's own directory.

example:E:\Media\Movies\A History of Violence\then in tis folder are the VOB's, IFO's ect...

This is the way I had it set up in Meedio. If this isn't possible then I just wasted $80 bucks. From what I had read I thought Sage woud be the best for me now that Meedio is not supported very well anymore. Any help or direction would be appreciated.

[FidgetyRat]

Posted before, but still can't figure it out.


Was wondering if sageMC has an option for disk usage on the main menu. Other users suggested i push the "info" button on the main menu, but that doesn't do anything for me.. Also it was stated that there are config settings under the sage 16x9 options, but there really is nothing in there.


Am i missing something?

[kricker]

Posted before, but still can't figure it out.


Was wondering if sageMC has an option for disk usage on the main menu. Other users suggested i push the "info" button on the main menu, but that doesn't do anything for me.. Also it was stated that there are config settings under the sage 16x9 options, but there really is nothing in there.


Am i missing something?Sounds like you are not using flachbar's latest build. Go to the first post and follow the link to the download. Once installed make sure you select the .xml file as the stv and not the .stv file, which is the old version. Browse back thru the posts to see how you can tell what version of SageMC you are using.

[geogecko]

I'm trying to edit sage.properties according to ml_dudes instruction for SageMC so I can import my DVD profiler collection but whenever I make edits and save then go into Sage they get deleted fron the sage.property file.

Here are the instructions I'm trying to do:

In order for SageMC to import meta-data from DVD Profiler there are a few things that must be configured.

Export your collection to XML to a location that is accessible via UNC or local drive letters for any of the PC that will import meta-data. Only PC's that are importing need to be able to access the collection XML. PC's that are just viewing meta-data via SageMC do not need be able to read from the collection XML.
Close SageTV to edit the properties file. Open the correct properties file - sage.properties for SageTV not running in service mode, and sageclient.properties for SageTV running in service mode.
Edit or add the following properties:

Required:

mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml= This is the path to the collection XML from DVD Profiler. Make sure you have all the backslashes correct. Here is mine as an example: "mlbdude/meta_data_collection.xml=D:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\collection.xml".
Optional:
mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root= This is used to point to your DVD Profiler installation. If this is NOT set auto thumbnail image importing will not work. Here is mine as an example: "mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=D:\Program Files\InterVocative Software\DVD Profiler

I have read almost all info on SageMC but find the configuring very confusing thus far. I also would like to put a "My Movies"main menu option in the main start menu, not sure how to do this either??? And I would like to import my movie folders on my hard drives. They are configured by each movie having it's own directory.

example:E:\Media\Movies\A History of Violence\then in tis folder are the VOB's, IFO's ect...

This is the way I had it set up in Meedio. If this isn't possible then I just wasted $80 bucks. From what I had read I thought Sage woud be the best for me now that Meedio is not supported very well anymore. Any help or direction would be appreciated.

jds23 mentioned how to get the settings to stick.

Set your E:\Media\Movies as a Library Import. That should allow you to play your ripped DVDs. These will show up in "My Videos." You could make a custom menu say My Movies, but it would not link to your Movies. These are for things such as MovieTimes and WebRadio plugins.

Make sure and export your collection.xml to the path listed in the properties file, in order to pull in Metadata.

[Madcoder]

6.10 has broken DVD menu navigation for me (off a hard drive video_ts folder, but I am not sure about an actual disc) . When you are in a DVD root menu, and select something like play, or hit the select button on the remote while hovering on play, Sage jumps to the last other media type you have been playing and starts to play that. So, if the last thing you have done is listen to music, then when you select to play from the DVD root menu, suddenly the screen jumps to your music area, and starts playing the last playlist. DOH!
:(

Also, I am not sure if it happens in 6.10, but at least in 6.9, I have this issue:
If you are listening to a playlist, or a music queue.
While listening to that you are in some other screen, like guide search results, or in pictures.
Then when the next song comes, the song changes, but then also the screen you are on jumps to some other selection, as if the next song coming in the queue also sent you to the next thing in your current screen.

Can someone confirm if that also is happening in 6.10 because I have already reverted to 6.9b due to the DVD navigation issue I already reported.

Third and final request for a new feature. Can we PLEASE get an option to have the next/previous chapter button, and the ffwd, rwnd buttons work like a normal CD player would when you are playing a music queue? It is very annoying that the only time the buttons will work like a normal music device are if you go to the visualize screen! I find myself very commonly wanting to skip to the next song, and then I have to navigate to some special screen just to do it. :bang:

[Madcoder]

I just upgraded to the new 6.10 and found what I beleive to be a pretty major bug.

When playing a dvd, you can navigate around the menus using the directional arrows. However, upon trying to select a menu item, Sage does one of two things.

1) if you'd previously watching a tv program, Sage will immediately exit out of the DVD and go back to the channel you were previously watching.

2) if you weren't watching anything, Sage will just sit there and do nothing.

Does anyone else have this problem? I hadn't upgraded since 6.7 I beleive so I can't tell if this problem was exisiting in any previous versions. Let me know if you need any more info.

And thanks again for all your hard work flashcar.

Yes, I can confirm the bug! See a few posts back of mine. 6.9b is not doing it, but 6.10 is!

[bcjenkins]

Yes, I can confirm the bug! See a few posts back of mine. 6.9b is not doing it, but 6.10 is!
I also have the dvd plaing issue. This is using SageTV Client. I have uninstalled client, reinstalled from scratch, etc., have yet to apply SageMC again. I think I will hold off based on this, unless someone can confirm that theirs is working.

B

BTW - The wife was REALLY mad

[geogecko]

1068-888=180

Wow, that's a lot of posts for Dirk to read when he gets back!

We may need to put a summary together for him at some point.

[Madcoder]

I also have the dvd plaing issue. This is using SageTV Client. I have uninstalled client, reinstalled from scratch, etc., have yet to apply SageMC again. I think I will hold off based on this, unless someone can confirm that theirs is working.

B

BTW - The wife was REALLY mad

6.9b DVD navigation is fine for me.

[FidgetyRat]

Sounds like you are not using flachbar's latest build. Go to the first post and follow the link to the download. Once installed make sure you select the .xml file as the stv and not the .stv file, which is the old version. Browse back thru the posts to see how you can tell what version of SageMC you are using.

Is this a recent addition. I just downloaded both sageMC and the Additions maybe 2 weeks ago.

[MeInMaui]

Is this a recent addition. I just downloaded both sageMC and the Additions maybe 2 weeks ago.

The diskbar was just added in version 6.10. This was released last friday (1 week ago). If you go to your settings menu, the SageMC version should be listed. You probably have v6.9b.

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

Disk Bar rules.

[technazz]

6.10 has broken DVD menu navigation for me (off a hard drive video_ts folder, but I am not sure about an actual disc) . When you are in a DVD root menu, and select something like play, or hit the select button on the remote while hovering on play, Sage jumps to the last other media type you have been playing and starts to play that. So, if the last thing you have done is listen to music, then when you select to play from the DVD root menu, suddenly the screen jumps to your music area, and starts playing the last playlist. DOH!
:(

Also, I am not sure if it happens in 6.10, but at least in 6.9, I have this issue:
If you are listening to a playlist, or a music queue.
While listening to that you are in some other screen, like guide search results, or in pictures.
Then when the next song comes, the song changes, but then also the screen you are on jumps to some other selection, as if the next song coming in the queue also sent you to the next thing in your current screen.

Can someone confirm if that also is happening in 6.10 because I have already reverted to 6.9b due to the DVD navigation issue I already reported.



Im seeing this as well. I have Video_TS folders set up as well on the hard drive. When I use The Play Button to Play it will go back to Live Tv for me. But if I use the mouse and click on what I want to play for the DVD it works fine. So I think it has to do with the Play button on the remote.

Technazz

[MeInMaui]

Could someone please verify whether or not you can see any genre icons (originals or mine, doesn't matter) under 'My Videos' in v6.10? Kirby and I both cannot get them to show up on installs using v6.10. On my htpc they do show up using v6.9b. I'm still at work and I won't be able to get around to checking this for at least a few more hours. Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike

[gplasky]

Could someone please verify whether or not you can see any genre icons (originals or mine, doesn't matter) under 'My Videos' in v6.10? Kirby and I both cannot get them to show up on installs using v6.10. On my htpc they do show up using v6.9b. I'm still at work and I won't be able to get around to checking this for at least a few more hours. Thanks!

Aloha,
Mike
I see the original ActionAdveture, Comedy, Drama and Horror icons and the rest are folders in 6.10. This is viewing both by folders and list. I haven't tried yours yet.

Gerry

EDIT: These are the only ones I see with your set too. I use DVD Profiler for DVD info. Might that have something to do with matching up to the Genre category names?

[MeInMaui]

Ok, thanks. Guess I'll have to go looking for another scapegoat. :D

[MeInMaui]

MeinMaui,

They work fine under my 6.10. There are some missing (were just not created yet), like Documentary, etc., but those are the minor things in life right now. But yeah, they do seem to work just fine under My Videos for me.

I forgot about that one. There isn't a complete list of genres that I am aware of, so I'm sure there are several that I missed. I'll add Documentary to my ToDo list. If you find any others, please post them to my Graphics for SageMC thread and I'll get to them. Thanks.

Aloha,
Mike

[gplasky]

Yes, I can confirm the bug! See a few posts back of mine. 6.9b is not doing it, but 6.10 is!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Madcoder
Yes, I can confirm the bug! See a few posts back of mine. 6.9b is not doing it, but 6.10 is!

I also have the dvd plaing issue. This is using SageTV Client. I have uninstalled client, reinstalled from scratch, etc., have yet to apply SageMC again. I think I will hold off based on this, unless someone can confirm that theirs is working.

B

BTW - The wife was REALLY mad
I posted this before I thought. Go to your Sage 16x9 options in Details Settings and change Previous Channel option fro Prev Chl to Channel Entry. That will fix your issue. I think the default should be changed to this to avoid this issue. Having Select be the Previous Channel commans causes issues unless you're aware of it being set that way.

Gerry

[MiGster]

I'm trying to get other media players to work and have followed mldude's directions below but when I hit play on a recorded show it just either doesn't play at all or uses the sage player depending which PLAY button I use. Has thisd procedure been updated lately? I'm trying to use Zoom Player.


Some users prefer to use other media players instead of the internal SageTV player. Sometimes it is because SageTV does not play the video type the user is trying to play (for example, Quicktime .mov files). You can configure SageMC to use an external media player as seen by the steps below:

Close SageTV to edit the properties file. Open the correct properties file - sage.properties for SageTV not running in service mode, and sageclient.properties for SageTV running in service mode.
Add or edit the following properties:
Required:

mlbdude/use_external_dvd_player=true This tells SageMC to use an external media player when you select a ripped DVD or play a DVD disc from SageMC.

mlbdude/use_external_media_player=true This tells SageMC to use an external media player when you select a non DVD video file from the SageMC videos.

mlbdude/use_external_sleep_first=true This tells SageMC to put Sage to Sleep before launching the external player. When the player is closed SageMC will come out of Sleep automatically. If set to false, the external player will be opened on top of SageTV.

Optional:

'mlbdude/limit_external_to_extensions=*' Configure this property to limit SageMC to only use the external non-DVD media player to specific file types. By default it is configured as '*'. This means all files. You can add specific extensions to that to limit it to those extensions. Only files of that type will then use the external media player. Here is mine as an example: "mlbdude/limit_external_to_extensions=.mpg,.mpeg". Please note, these are case sensitive. For example, Quicktime movies from Kodak cameras tend to be saved as ".MOV", not ".mov".

Configure the external player .cmd files included in your "STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE" folder. Note that SageMC will pass in the path to the selected video as the %1 parameter to either of the below .cmd files.
For the external DVD player edit the dvd_player.cmd file.
For the external non-DVD media player edit the media_player.cmd file.
Example: "C:\Program Files\Zoom Player\zplayer.exe" /F /Q /PLAY /CLOSE %1 This will open Zoom Player (already installed on the computer) in Full Screen Mode, automatically play the file, and automatically close the Zoom Player after the file has played. You can modify as seen here:[http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/parameters.shtml link]

[Ted@TNT]

I think I may have found a bug, can anyone confirm?

In Settings -> Setup Tuners -> Haupauge... -> Color Calibration -

The adjustment screen comes up (this is an awesome feature as my sources seemed very dark on this build and I was able to adjust them). The problem is that I have no indicator to indicate focus of the curser - I'm flying blind! I play with arrow keys and the enter/select key to make the adjustments that are needed, and it does adjust correctly, but I just can't tell where I am. Perhaps I'm just missing a .png file, but I've tried hard to make this a pretty straight install.

So, am I alone, or do others have this?

[geogecko]

I would do most setup work with the default STV. There are a lot of menu's that just plain don't work with the SageMC STV, because they aren't themed or something.

This last build, I set everything up that I could, from the default STV (tuners, channels, etc).

[Ted@TNT]

Thanks, I'll give that a shot.

I'm pouring through the hardware forums right now, and don't want to pull this off-topic, but do you know where I'd find help for a persistant broken tuner #2? I have four capure cards, and it doesn't matter where I put them, #2 gets no signal even though the source is fine. Ideas? Search terms?

[Lostinpvr]

Anyone know how do you get the Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW to work under SageMC 16x9.
:D

[MiGster]

Guy's I'm having a little trouble figuring this Sage TV 5.04 thing out. I'd like to use SageMC and I want to use Zoom Player as my media/dvd player. I want ZP to play my TV recordings too. So, based on that what should I download from this site? I'm a little confused by the base build and the the add on and then there's flachbar's updates.

Also when I do install what I THINK is the right files (downloads) I can't seem to find flachbar's SageMC 16 by something XML file to load in Sage's Advance screen....why?? I could spend days trying to figure this out. Actually I have already and now I'm tired and need some direction. I've used Meedio for the last few years so this is all new to me. I don't know about any other newbs but this one finds the directions in this Customization forum confusing and out of date, so many different versions and some go with this version of Sage and some go with this one...ect. Now if you've been following this for some time then I'm sure it makes sense to you but I'm ready to through the towel in and Buy a Sony HD DVR.

If someone could help me get this setup I would appreciate it.

[bcjenkins]

I posted this before I thought. Go to your Sage 16x9 options in Details Settings and change Previous Channel option fro Prev Chl to Channel Entry. That will fix your issue. I think the default should be changed to this to avoid this issue. Having Select be the Previous Channel commans causes issues unless you're aware of it being set that way.

Gerry
Worked perfectly.

Thanks

B

[geogecko]

Guy's I'm having a little trouble figuring this Sage TV 5.04 thing out. I'd like to use SageMC and I want to use Zoom Player as my media/dvd player. I want ZP to play my TV recordings too. So, based on that what should I download from this site? I'm a little confused by the base build and the the add on and then there's flachbar's updates.

Also when I do install what I THINK is the right files (downloads) I can't seem to find flachbar's SageMC 16 by something XML file to load in Sage's Advance screen....why?? I could spend days trying to figure this out. Actually I have already and now I'm tired and need some direction. I've used Meedio for the last few years so this is all new to me. I don't know about any other newbs but this one finds the directions in this Customization forum confusing and out of date, so many different versions and some go with this version of Sage and some go with this one...ect. Now if you've been following this for some time then I'm sure it makes sense to you but I'm ready to through the towel in and Buy a Sony HD DVR.

If someone could help me get this setup I would appreciate it.

There are 3 choices as far as the STV goes, in SageMC.

1. SageMC 16x9 5_10, as the base build, which is where updating the entire build became unnecessary. You can use this version, but there has been vast improvements. You need the base version, no matter what, because it contains all the "guts" needed by the STV, such as Java files, graphics, etc. It does contain an STV (.stv) file, which is the old file format.

2. SageMC 16x9 "Latest Dev Build." This was the last STV file that mlbdude updated when he was working on the project. It is considered his "latest" effort. This option, or the next one are both optional. It, I believe, is a .stv file, but I can't remember.

3. SageMC 16x9 6.x, which is Flachbar's edition of the STV file. His contains more than just the STV file (now in this case, it's .xml, which is the new format that SageTV is using for STV files), because he has some additional features that need extra support. In order to use this file, or the one from #2, you need #1 installed, no matter what.

Since I wanted the latest, I installed the base version 5_10, and then skipped SageMC 16x9 Latest Dev Build, and just downloaded Flachbar's STV.

That's basically it. If you've installed Flachbar's .xml file, but cannot select it in the Detailed Setup, you will probably have to close out SageTV all together (shut it down), and go edit the sage.properties file (sageclient.properties file, if using service mode), find where the STV file is specified (search for .stv), and change it manually to .xml, and make sure and save.

I have no idea how to get the external players working, as I'm just using Sage to play everything. Maybe someone else can chime in.

[MiGster]

:D Thank you for taking the time to reply in detail. It clears a lot of doubts I had about if I was doing things right or not...I was not...but now I will.:jump:

[Ted@TNT]

Here are some observations about IMDB...

First, I'm sure you've noticed that the CAST section doesn't show up.
In addition, quote and trivia text blocks aren't scrollable as the general information page is

SageMC is still my favorite interface by far, so I thought I'd mention some quirks.

[Lostinpvr]

Anyone know how do you get the Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW to work under SageMC 16x9.


Help, Let me ask this another way.
Will SageMC 16x9 support Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW. If it will how do you enable it.

[MeInMaui]

Help, Let me ask this another way.
Will SageMC 16x9 support Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW. If it will how do you enable it.

I'm pretty sure SageMC does not support the Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW in its present form. Sorry.

Aloha,
Mike

[something fishy]

Hi Dirk

I've just loaded SageMC 6.10 and I've run into a problem. I use the old Hauppauge remote that shares vol up and down with left and right. With SageMC 6.10 in most of the menus left and right is changing volume rather than moving the cursor.

If this by design (I can see how having volume accessable in all screens would be nice if I had a different remote) or a bug. It undermines 6.10s useability for me so, if it is by design, could a switch be added. In the meantime I've backed down to 6.8a.

Cheers

Eric

[kricker]

Hi Dirk

I've just loaded SageMC 6.10 and I've run into a problem. I use the old Hauppauge remote that shares vol up and down with left and right. With SageMC 6.10 in most of the menus left and right is changing volume rather than moving the cursor.

If this by design (I can see how having volume accessable in all screens would be nice if I had a different remote) or a bug. It undermines 6.10s useability for me so, if it is by design, could a switch be added. In the meantime I've backed down to 6.8a.

Cheers

EricYou could always edit your irremote.ini file to make the remote work how you want it to.

[Jason]

Hi Dirk

I've just loaded SageMC 6.10 and I've run into a problem. I use the old Hauppauge remote that shares vol up and down with left and right. With SageMC 6.10 in most of the menus left and right is changing volume rather than moving the cursor.

If this by design (I can see how having volume accessable in all screens would be nice if I had a different remote) or a bug. It undermines 6.10s useability for me so, if it is by design, could a switch be added. In the meantime I've backed down to 6.8a.

Cheers

Eric

Yeah... in recent versions, Dirk modified the listener to work with 'left' and 'right' as opposed to 'left/volume down' and 'right/volume up'...

-Jason

[Lostinpvr]

I'm pretty sure SageMC does not support the Multi-speed Continuous FF/REW in its present form. Sorry.

Aloha,
Mike

Mike,
Thanks,
By the way your ICON packs are great.:goodjob:
I wasn't absolutly sure, the documentation for SageMC lacks a little :confused: but the product is wonderful.
Have a great day.
Thanks Again

[geogecko]

It undermines 6.10s useability for me so, if it is by design, could a switch be added.

Cheers

Eric

Settings...Detailed Setup...Advanced...SageMC Options...Main...Cursor Comskip

I believe this may help. Set it to Disabled.

[Franc]

Settings...Detailed Setup...Advanced...SageMC Options...Main...Cursor Comskip

I believe this may help. Set it to Disabled.

Nope, doesn't work. I am having the same problem.

I have a remote with which I have combined left/right with volume up/down and up/down with channel up/down.

Was using v6.7 up until now and this was no problem for me, but with v6.10 in certain screens it reacts as volume up/down instead of left/righ. I can't really see why it does that. For instance in the My TV screen, there's no use (for me) to change the volume, so I wan't left/right.

Not every screen does this, though. The Recorded TV screen acts just fine.

Could this be easily changed?

[Jason]

I have a remote with which I have combined left/right with volume up/down and up/down with channel up/down.

...

Could this be easily changed?

Yep... Change the listener... Dirk changed this with 6.9 and up... It's a bug or a feature... depending on your point of view... ;)

FWIW: I had to change my remote to just plain left and right as opposed to left/volume down and right/volume up... You can also go in and change your listener from within Studio... I did not not because I use my Harmony remote which controls the main TV volume...

-Jason

[kricker]

Yep... Change the listener... Dirk changed this with 6.9 and up... It's a bug or a feature... depending on your point of view... ;)

FWIW: I had to change my remote to just plain left and right as opposed to left/volume down and right/volume up... You can also go in and change your listener from within Studio... I did not not because I use my Harmony remote which controls the main TV volume...

-JasonExactly. I am using the Hauppage 45 button remote, which has volume and channel buttons. So, I just setup the left, right, up, down to be that and that only. Much less confusing for others to use the remote.

[dflachbart]

1068-888=180

Wow, that's a lot of posts for Dirk to read when he gets back!


Just got back :hi:
Indeed, quite overwhelming ;)

Looks like this release will keep me busy for some time :)


Dirk

[JDizzy]

I have just installed this STV and love the option of using comskip (not to mention the interface)!

I have tried the DVD Profiler and ran a test with 4 movies by adding the titles through the profiler, exporting the info to an xml file and then pointing Sage toward the exported file.

Is the cover art supposed to be there also??
It showed up in DVD Profiler but when viewing through Sage on the description of movie is there... did I miss something?

thanks,
JD

[geogecko]

I have just installed this STV and love the option of using comskip (not to mention the interface)!

I have tried the DVD Profiler and ran a test with 4 movies by adding the titles through the profiler, exporting the info to an xml file and then pointing Sage toward the exported file.

Is the cover art supposed to be there also??
It showed up in DVD Profiler but when viewing through Sage on the description of movie is there... did I miss something?

thanks,
JD

Sounds like you got the collection.xml in the right place.

What does your DVD Profiler root location say in the properties file? That is where Sage looks to get the coverart. If it is as per the instructions, then you'll need to verify that it's installed in that location. (In other words, is the location called out in your properties file, a valid location?)

Reason I ask, is that the beta version of DVD Pro, sometimes installs in a beta type folder, so your properties file will need to change, accordingly. Also, this applies if you did not use the default path when installing DVD Pro.

One last question, is DVD Pro on the same machine you are running Sage on? If not, then I can help you there as well.

Dirk, welcome back. You were missed...So, just over 200 posts to read...not too bad! :nono:

[JDizzy]

The DVD Profiler program is on the same machine as Sage (the HTPC).....

I can see cover art images in the DVD Profiler 'images' directory.

You speak of property files.... where might those be located and what would they be named?
If I can edit it and add a path that I can move the cover art images to that might work...eh?

JD

[kricker]

Just got back :hi:
Indeed, quite overwhelming ;)

Looks like this release will keep me busy for some time :)


DirkWelcome back. I hope you had a good time.

[geogecko]

mlbdude/DVDProfiler_Root=C\:\\Program Files\\InterVocative Software\\DVD Profiler

This property tells SageMC where you have DVD Profiler installed.

Make sure that it matches with your installation of DVD Profiler.

Oh, the properties files. These are located in C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\

and are named sage.properties (or sageclient.properties, if you are using SageTV in service mode, which if you do not know what I'm talking about here, then it's probably not in service mode).

sage.properties is a text file, and can be edited for different things. Although now that flachbar has taken over the STV for the time being, he has added a very easy way to edit these setting, without even editing the properties file.

These can be found in Settings...Detailed Setup...Advanced...SageMC Options. Under Path, you'll notice the above listed property, and you can just browse to that location. (DVD Profiler Path). Your Meta Data XML path can also be set here, if you did not export that in the correct place (but it sounds like you did, if you got the text part of the meta data, but you might want to make sure).

BTW, if you ever do need to edit the property files directly, you will need to shut down SageTV completely, because SageTV has the files open while it's running (or keeps track of how the file looked the last time it opened it), and will edit OUT any changes you make while SageTV is running.

[JDizzy]

Interesting....

If I go to Utilities/Settings/Advanced....there is no MCE path options

I have: Core Settings, STV Enhancments, External Setup, and Configure Menu from this level...

I manually went into the sage.properties file and added the path to the dvd profiler program but it did not help.... (I rechecked the properties file after I saved it to make sure the change saved to the file)

JD

[popechild]

I have just installed this STV and love the option of using comskip (not to mention the interface)!

I have tried the DVD Profiler and ran a test with 4 movies by adding the titles through the profiler, exporting the info to an xml file and then pointing Sage toward the exported file.

Is the cover art supposed to be there also??
It showed up in DVD Profiler but when viewing through Sage on the description of movie is there... did I miss something?

thanks,
JD
Are you doing this with "offline" or "online" dvds?

1. If they're offline (the dvds are not ripped to your harddrive, you just want the info to show up), double check your "offline path" in your SageMC properties menu. Then go look in that folder and see if you're getting the cover art images in that folder. This will help determine whether it's a problem with Profiler getting the images there or with Sage reading them.

2. If they're online (you're ripping the actual video to the harddrive), my guess is that you're running into what I consider a bug. Sage is supposed to copy the cover art from the Profiler folder to the VIDEO_TS folder that contains your ripped video and rename the image "folder.jpg." Then this image will show as your cover art. If this isn't happening (it doesn't much (all?) of the time for me), you have two options. First, you can copy the image manually to this folder and rename it, which is kind of a pain. Or, just go to the movie details page within Sage where you're seeing the description but not the image. Select "Edit Video Info" then choose "DVD Profiler Import." For some reason, when you re-import the profiler info this way it seems to always grab the image and copy it correctly.

Hope something in here helps.

[JDizzy]

Are you doing this with "offline" or "online" dvds?

1. If they're offline (the dvds are not ripped to your harddrive, you just want the info to show up), double check your "offline path" in your SageMC properties menu. Then go look in that folder and see if you're getting the cover art images in that folder. This will help determine whether it's a problem with Profiler getting the images there or with Sage reading them.

2. If they're online (you're ripping the actual video to the harddrive), my guess is that you're running into what I consider a bug. Sage is supposed to copy the cover art from the Profiler folder to the VIDEO_TS folder that contains your ripped video and rename the image "folder.jpg." Then this image will show as your cover art. If this isn't happening (it doesn't much (all?) of the time for me), you have two options. First, you can copy the image manually to this folder and rename it, which is kind of a pain. Or, just go to the movie details page within Sage where you're seeing the description but not the image. Select "Edit Video Info" then choose "DVD Profiler Import." For some reason, when you re-import the profiler info this way it seems to always grab the image and copy it correctly.

Hope something in here helps.

I dunno, I feel as though something is not quite right here... and now I'm questioning if I'm even running SageMC.....duh
I do not have any SageMC Properties Menu

When I look in the Settings/Advanced/Core Settings menu it lists my STV file as: meekel_0_5_0.STV....
If I go and look around in the directories through Sage for the SageMC_169.xml file, it does not show up (but it is there when looking outside of Sage through the Windows directories)....
Man, I be dumb or something....
Should I do us all a favor and just pull the plug, walk away, and sell the computer?
Format the hardrive and start over....
Change my name and move.....
OR...
JD

[geogecko]

or do us a favor, and install SageMC 16x9, that would probably help! ;)

In case you wanted to, and want to use flachbar's latest, you need to install two things.

SageMC 5_10, as left by mlbdude (this is the base install), check out the first post in this thread to find it.

Then, the SageMC 6.10 stv file, which can be downloaded via the first post as well.

[mattress]

has the dvd root menu issue been resolved yet? this is the first time I've tried to watch a DVD since I upgraded SageMC, and I can't play a DVD now :(

I can move the cursor up and down the menu options, but can't select anything....

[bcjenkins]

has the dvd root menu issue been resolved yet? this is the first time I've tried to watch a DVD since I upgraded SageMC, and I can't play a DVD now :(

I can move the cursor up and down the menu options, but can't select anything....
read a couple of pages back. Gerry posted something that tells you what to change in the SageMC options to make it work.

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=173633&postcount=1086

[geogecko]

I posted this before I thought. Go to your Sage 16x9 options in Details Settings and change Previous Channel option fro Prev Chl to Channel Entry. That will fix your issue. I think the default should be changed to this to avoid this issue. Having Select be the Previous Channel commans causes issues unless you're aware of it being set that way.

Gerry

What about setting it to "Options Menu?" That's currently what I have it set at, but I haven't tested playing a DVD yet. Maybe I will later today, and I'll post back.

[dflachbart]

Welcome back. I hope you had a good time.
Thanks, I had a great time.
But like any vacation, too short - though some here might disagree ... :D

I should have an update with fixes for the major issues ready by tomorrow. Just a few general notes:
.my files and IMDB lookup are completely independent and dont affect each other
IMDB lookup is pretty accurate for me (> 90%). But I noticed that the year check for movies wasn't enabled, this will be fixed in the update. For TV shows, there is really not much I can do other than matching the title, so there will always be a chance of a wrong pic if IMDB returns multiple results (especially with titles like e.g. "Tennis" ;))
the need to do a clean install for some of you was a bit surprising to me, and definetly not intendedDirk

[geogecko]

LOL, don't sweat it Dirk. I've needed to do a complete reinstall for several months now. I'm just glad my system, or rather, Sage, is much cleaner now.

Funny, now that you're back, things seem to have calmed down around here. Guess people are letting you get your reading done!

[kricker]

LOL, don't sweat it Dirk. I've needed to do a complete reinstall for several months now. I'm just glad my system, or rather, Sage, is much cleaner now...Ditto...I am sooooo glad I did it. BTW Dirk, did you catch the icon issues I posted a few pages back?

[Kirby]

I'm curious, is it possible to go back in versions, say from 6.10 to 6.9b? I still cant get my genre icons working at all, and I am curious to see if they work in a previous version, but not sure if I can downgrade, and if I can, where do I find old versions? Isnt the download link just the latest 6.10?

[FidgetyRat]

i have one issue with the music collection.

If I selected an album, It seems like it is set for shuffle. Some tracks get skipped, others are out of order even though the tracks are listed in the proper order and every option for shuffle I can find is disabled


Anyone else have this issue?

[geogecko]

I'm curious, is it possible to go back in versions, say from 6.10 to 6.9b? I still cant get my genre icons working at all, and I am curious to see if they work in a previous version, but not sure if I can downgrade, and if I can, where do I find old versions? Isnt the download link just the latest 6.10?

Interesting. I used to delete all previous versions, but will probably start keeping them again. It used to be, when mlbdude was storing the download himself, that all you had to do, was minipulate the download link to an older version, but now the download link does not contain version information...

[kricker]

I'm curious, is it possible to go back in versions, say from 6.10 to 6.9b? I still cant get my genre icons working at all, and I am curious to see if they work in a previous version, but not sure if I can downgrade, and if I can, where do I find old versions? Isnt the download link just the latest 6.10?You can go back just fine. I went back from 6.10 to 6.9b then back to 6.10 for testing the other week and there are no problems.

[Kirby]

You can go back just fine. I went back from 6.10 to 6.9b then back to 6.10 for testing the other week and there are no problems.

Which brings me to the obvious question, where to get old versions? Since I first started with 6.10, I dont have older releases to try.

[kricker]

SageMC_169_6.9b-kricker (http://www.danielpatton.com/kricker/sage/SageMC_169_6.9b-kricker.zip)
FYI, this probably already has webradio and movietimes as well as a custom import for video-redo added.

[dflachbart]

Ditto...I am sooooo glad I did it. BTW Dirk, did you catch the icon issues I posted a few pages back?
Yep thanks, this will be fixed... :)


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Just uploaded v6.10a which should fix all reported major issues:

- added setting to disable global volume OSD (if using combined left/right/volume remote mappings)
- fixed issue with always going to LiveTV on BACK in main menu
- fixed SELECT in DVD navigation
- fixed black screen on DELETE in Stop dialog
- fixed stop dialog popping up for video playlists
- fixed conflict_resolved icon
- OptionsMenu now default for SELECT
- improved IMDB lookup
- now using nielm's new 4.0 imdb JAR file

Please let me know if the fixes don't work for you, or if any other issues still persist...

Dirk

[mattress]

wow, great work on the new release, i will test it soon (watching some recorded shows now ;) )

[ke6guj]

Just uploaded v6.10a which should fix all reported major issues:

Please let me know if the fixes don't work for you, or if any other issues still persist...

Dirk

Looks good so far.

I did notice that the sleep timer import doesn't seem to work. It doesn't install into the options menu.

Also, while watching an imported video, the title in the top box doesn't always update to the correct name. Sometimes it still shows the previous filename, but will show the proper .jpg.

In IMDB info, I can'T seem to cursor right to scroll up/down in the quotes/trivia pages. I can cursor right to scroll in the summary page.

Also, in some fine tuning areas, sometimes when you scroll down on the right, it will jump cursor to the left when the bottom is reached. Scrolling up on th right, it will just stop. But scrolling on the left will just loop on the left. Also, sometimes you can scroll on the left and it will include the preview pane in the selections, but other times it won't.

[snoopy]

Just uploaded v6.10a which should fix all reported major issues:
Please let me know if the fixes don't work for you, or if any other issues still persist...
DirkGreat fixes Dirk as always...
I am still having trouble getting conflicts to clear. I have my conflicts to set to behave as the default STV which is the way I like it. I like it that way because I always want to know if there is a conflict so that I can adjust the priority. When I choose to always behave in a certain manner as indicated by the graphics below, The conflict icon doesn't clear. Also, more information would be helpfull. Either a double line or a description of not only what conflicts but 'what it conflicts with' because it is that part that is cut off for me. Thanks again for such tremendous work and I LOVE the artwork from IMDB... That's simply outstanding!

[snoopy]

Can someone confirm that I am giving the correct links to the SageMC downloads in my signature file?

[millers_35]

Can someone confirm that I am giving the correct links to the SageMC downloads in my signature file?


Looks good to me. :)

Miller

Once again thanks Dirk!!

[flashbacck]

when I do IMDB searches, I am getting nothing under "cast" and no image under the main heading. Is this a known bug?

[geogecko]

I get the image under the main heading, but no cast information...(unless I use DVD Profiler).

[dflachbart]

I get the image under the main heading, but no cast information...(unless I use DVD Profiler).
Are you guys using the latest imdb jar file (included in 6.10a) ? This fixed the cast issue for me ...


Dirk

[ke6guj]

Yup, using the latest imdb Jar file, dated 8/31/06. No cast info.

[dflachbart]

Great fixes Dirk as always...
I am still having trouble getting conflicts to clear. I have my conflicts to set to behave as the default STV which is the way I like it. I like it that way because I always want to know if there is a conflict so that I can adjust the priority. When I choose to always behave in a certain manner as indicated by the graphics below, The conflict icon doesn't clear.

Can you check if it clears when using the default STV ?



Also, more information would be helpfull. Either a double line or a description of not only what conflicts but 'what it conflicts with' because it is that part that is cut off for me.
The "Always record ..." options simply re-order the priority of the two conflicting favorites. You already see the full name of the favorite which does not get recorded in the conflict header, and now in 6.10a I added the "Conflicting Favorite" info with the fav title at the bottom for the other favorite. I don't see which additional info could be shown...

Dirk

[geogecko]

Are you guys using the latest imdb jar file (included in 6.10a) ? This fixed the cast issue for me ...


Dirk

I just installed it last night, so I have not verified. I will tonight though.

Dirk, question for you.

sagemc/save_on_cancel=true
sagemc/save_on_cancel_rec=true

Is there a difference between these? Did one get renamed to a new property, because I don't have the top line, and I don't get a popup asking if I want to save a recording, if I hit the record button while on the information page of a show that is recording...

:D

[snoopy]

Can you check if it clears when using the default STV ?The short answer is Yes, it does happen using the default STV. If I clear the conflict by deleting a currently conflicting show, this frees up the tuner and the conflict does clear in both places (main stv and sagemc). The problem generally occurs when I choose to 'Always' record one over the other where there is NOT any tuner that becomes available. If a conflict still exists, SageMC will still both report it and alert you with the icon. In the main STV, the difference is made between reporting and alerting via an icon. If you choose "always" then, that is what it means and it won't alert with the conflict icon once you have told it a particular action. Note that it still shows the conflict in the list because there still is a conflict (not enough tuners) but not the alert icon because you have already answered the question. In other words, the answer to the question in the main STV is 'saved' clears the alert icon but still reports any conflicts if they remain in it's list. It is also usefull to note that the main STV sees farther ahead than SageMC. My conflicts are only reported for a couple days out, where the main STV lets me see them two weeks out.

[geogecko]

Are you guys using the latest imdb jar file (included in 6.10a) ? This fixed the cast issue for me ...


Dirk

Confirmed. I get images and cast information.

Looks like *someone* needs to do a complete reinstall of Sage! :eek: :D

[Muchacho]

Using the new stv, I am unable to go back to full screen by clicking on the little window on the lower left of the screen.

That window will not get highlighted and selected.

Otherwise the new stv is working great!

BTW- I recently installed a HD card and noticed that some of the options for selecting channel line ups are not present in sageMC. Also, after I choose the OTA lineup, sageMC hangs and the "downlonding channel lineup" page.

[dflachbart]

Using the new stv, I am unable to go back to full screen by clicking on the little window on the lower left of the screen.

That window will not get highlighted and selected.


The window does not get highlighted, but the title below it. Did you try this too ?



BTW- I recently installed a HD card and noticed that some of the options for selecting channel line ups are not present in sageMC. Also, after I choose the OTA lineup, sageMC hangs and the "downlonding channel lineup" page.
I would recommend doing all major configuration by temporarily switching to the default STV

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Confirmed. I get images and cast information.


Good to hear ... :)

Just a teaser: I am currently implementing some darn good improvement for the IMDB pic lookup, so stay tuned ... :D


Dirk

[gplasky]

Good to hear ... :)

Just a teaser: I am currently implementing some darn good improvement for the IMDB pic lookup, so stay tuned ... :D


Dirk
:eek2: Tuned!

Gerry

[dflachbart]

I just installed it last night, so I have not verified. I will tonight though.

Dirk, question for you.

sagemc/save_on_cancel=true
sagemc/save_on_cancel_rec=true

Is there a difference between these? Did one get renamed to a new property, because I don't have the top line, and I don't get a popup asking if I want to save a recording, if I hit the record button while on the information page of a show that is recording...

:D
Good find ... The options page uses 'save_on_cancel_rec', but the stop listener uses 'save_on_cancel' ... :blush: Will be fixed in the next update. As a workaround, set both settings to true.

Dirk

[snoopy]

and now in 6.10a I added the "Conflicting Favorite" info with the fav title at the bottom for the other favorite. I don't see which additional info could be shown...Dirkhmmm... It is not as confusing to me now on second glance so perhaps you are right. In fact, maybe less is more. Who knows... The second screenshot has more info than the first. There has got to be a better way to layout that screen. I'm pondering.... Consider the attached layout as a possibility...

[MeInMaui]

hmmm... It is not as confusing to me now on second glance so perhaps you are right. In fact, maybe less is more. Who knows... The second screenshot has more info than the first. There has got to be a better way to layout that screen. I'm pondering.... Consider the attached layout as a possibility...

Ok, that's weird. I could have sworn that I saw this post earlier in the thread. I even looked at the attached picture, but now its jumped to the latest post. I must be losing it....

[dflachbart]

Ok, that's weird. I could have sworn that I saw this post earlier in the thread. I even looked at the attached picture, but now its jumped to the latest post. I must be losing it....
Thank you Mike

I really thought I must be loosing it too ... :D


Dirk

[Kirby]

Ditto on the losing it! I guess for me, its just all that damn fighting trying to get those Genre Icons to show, and still wont! Argh! :(

[MeInMaui]

Thank you Mike

I really thought I must be loosing it too ... :D


Dirk

Uh-oh, it's worse than I thought.....mass delusions. :p

Dirk,

While I've got you here, an issue has come up regarding the genre icons. Some genres are listed with a '/' as in Suspense/Thriller. This character is restricted from use in file names, so I can't supply an icon for genres named like this. I just looked at the API and the string handling capabilities of studio seem a little underwhelming. I'd like to either have the '/' replaced with a '-' or alternately have the genre parsed and only use the first genre listed (in this case it would be Suspense). I guess this is a feature request. Is this something you could easily implement using java? Thanks.

Aloha,
Mike

[dflachbart]

Uh-oh, it's worse than I thought.....mass delusions. :p

:smokin:


While I've got you here, an issue has come up regarding the genre icons. Some genres are listed with a '/' as in Suspense/Thriller. This character is restricted from use in file names, so I can't supply an icon for genres named like this. I just looked at the API and the string handling capabilities of studio seem a little underwhelming. I'd like to either have the '/' replaced with a '-' or alternately have the genre parsed and only use the first genre listed (in this case it would be Suspense). I guess this is a feature request. Is this something you could easily implement using java? Thanks.

Aloha,
Mike
What a coincidence, I am currently looking at this code. Trying to find out why the hell I only see the icons for Action and Comedy, although the other icon files are there as well ...

If I read the code correctly then it already handles category/subcategory: it creates one entry for the category and one for the subcaregory and puts the video into both groups (at least that is what it does here with my videos). Although, it's listed here as 'Comedy \ Crime' and not 'Comedy / Crime', so maybe this is different from what you are saying ... I guess I'll look at it some more

Dirk

[MeInMaui]

If I read the code correctly then it already handles category/subcategory: it creates one entry for the category and one for the subcaregory and puts the video into both groups (at least that is what it does here with my videos). Although, it's listed here as 'Comedy \ Crime' and not 'Comedy / Crime', so maybe this is different from what you are saying ... I guess I'll look at it some more

Dirk

In this case the genre is actually displayed as Suspense/Thriller (no spaces) in the genre list. Maybe it's just a formatting problem in the genre/subgenre listing from either imdb or DVD Profiler and the logic in SageMC is unable to recognize them. The intended behavior that you describe would be ideal.

Mike

[dflachbart]

If I read the code correctly then it already handles category/subcategory: it creates one entry for the category and one for the subcaregory and puts the video into both groups (at least that is what it does here with my videos). Although, it's listed here as 'Comedy \ Crime' and not 'Comedy / Crime', so maybe this is different from what you are saying ... I guess I'll look at it some more

Dirk
Yeahhhh...

The Sage API IsFilePath() seems to be buggy, I replaced it with a straight java.io.File.exists() call, and now all icons show up ! :clap:


Dirk

[geogecko]

Good find ... The options page uses 'save_on_cancel_rec', but the stop listener uses 'save_on_cancel' ... :blush: Will be fixed in the next update. As a workaround, set both settings to true.

Dirk

Thanks Dirk. I'll add the other property!

[dflachbart]

In this case the genre is actually displayed as Suspense/Thriller (no spaces) in the genre list. Maybe it's just a formatting problem in the genre/subgenre listing from either imdb or DVD Profiler and the logic in SageMC is unable to recognize them.

Mike
Ah ok, so the actual category is already "Suspense/Thriller" ... I'll see what I can do

Dirk

[geogecko]

Using the new stv, I am unable to go back to full screen by clicking on the little window on the lower left of the screen.

That window will not get highlighted and selected.

Otherwise the new stv is working great!

BTW- I recently installed a HD card and noticed that some of the options for selecting channel line ups are not present in sageMC. Also, after I choose the OTA lineup, sageMC hangs and the "downlonding channel lineup" page.

I think I noticed this in 6.10 (not "a"), I think you can select it, but the bar does not light up.

In other words, when nothing else is selected, if you push select (or OK), it will go back to full screen, or at least, that is what I remember happening. Just the green selection went away...I'll verify in a little bit.

[bcjenkins]

Hi Dirk,

I hope you wouldn't mind adding the ability to:


Log out of Windows, exit all programs
Reboot Computer
Shut Down Computer
Sleep Computer


To the exit screen of SageMC. In particular the one I would use most is numero uno. I have a MCE remote and I put the client in the bedroom to sleep when I am done for the evening. The problem is that because FSE is enabled it doesn't always wake up in a great mood. ;) If I exit Sage, log out of Windows, and sleep the computer, I am able to wake it up in a more cooperative state. With the MCE remote and native drivers (not using HIP or anything else) I can't relaunch Sage from the remote. If I am logged out of Windows, it relaunches when I select with the remote to log back on.

TIA,

B

[geogecko]

Confirmed. You can no longer select the preview title to go back to full screen playback. So, 6.10 broke the selection bar from showing up, and 6.10a broke being able to even select it!

:D

Thanks again Dirk. I really hope you realize how much we all love having you work on this STV. I hope that we don't bother you enough to burn you out. If we do, please let us know to "step off," and give you some breathing room. We would rather you go to Italy or somewhere for vacation, than totally abandon us! *group hug*

[dflachbart]

Ditto on the losing it! I guess for me, its just all that damn fighting trying to get those Genre Icons to show, and still wont! Argh! :(
Try the attached STV version in which I fixed the IsFilePath() issue, maybe this works for you too. I also added code to replace a "/" in genre names with "-", so Mike feel free to test this, and let me know if it works (I dont have any videos with those genre names available)

Dirk

[MeInMaui]

Thanks Dirk!

I'll try it out tonight after the kids are in bed. :thumb:

Aloha,
Mike

*group hug*

Umm....Nobody saw that.....right? :o

[Opus4]

The Sage API IsFilePath() seems to be buggy, I replaced it with a straight java.io.File.exists() call, and now all icons show up !Don't forget: The SageTV API calls for file access are relative to the SageTV server. If you want to make sure you are accessing a file local to the current UI, then use the java file access calls. See the tip on p. 139 of the v5.0 Studio manual. :)

- Andy

[dflachbart]

Don't forget: The SageTV API calls for file access are relative to the SageTV server. If you want to make sure you are accessing a file local to the current UI, then use the java file access calls. See the tip on p. 139 of the v5.0 Studio manual. :)

- Andy
Umhhh, ok I take the "buggy" back ... :blush: :)


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Confirmed. You can no longer select the preview title to go back to full screen playback. So, 6.10 broke the selection bar from showing up, and 6.10a broke being able to even select it!

:D

But only when you are in the menu buttons on the left side, right ? I tried to fix some focus issues in 6.10a by wrapping the vertical navigation in this panel, but didn't think about the preview window ... ;) I'll revert this change in the next update ...


Thanks again Dirk. I really hope you realize how much we all love having you work on this STV. I hope that we don't bother you enough to burn you out. If we do, please let us know to "step off," and give you some breathing room. We would rather you go to Italy or somewhere for vacation, than totally abandon us! *group hug*
Thanks for the kind words. Dont worry, it's still fun for me, and I'll step back myself in case I need to ... :)

Dirk

[snoopy]

:bang:Ok, that's weird. I could have sworn that I saw this post earlier in the thread. I even looked at the attached picture, but now its jumped to the latest post. I must be losing it....Nope just fighting to be heard on this conflict issue. It seems I am the only one interested. I get the point :)

[kricker]

:bang:Nope just fighting to be heard on this conflict issue. It seems I am the only one interested. I get the point :)Nope, I am interested to, but I am letting you do the dirty work ;)

[MeInMaui]

:bang:Nope just fighting to be heard on this conflict issue. It seems I am the only one interested. I get the point :)

My solution to conflict management was just to throw more tuners at the problem. Now it isn't much of an issue anymore, but every once in a while I still have to deal with it. Keep up the good fight!

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

My solution to conflict management was just to throw more tuners at the problem. Now it isn't much of an issue anymore, but every once in a while I still have to deal with it. Keep up the good fight!

Aloha,
Mike

LOL, me too. 2 FusionHDTV cards and a dual tuner PVR-500, doesn't lend itself to conflicts very often...

But, I like the work that is hopefully going to be done on the conflict management. Also like the little photoshops that were posted. :corn:

[Kirby]

Try the attached STV version in which I fixed the IsFilePath() issue, maybe this works for you too. I also added code to replace a "/" in genre names with "-", so Mike feel free to test this, and let me know if it works (I dont have any videos with those genre names available)

Dirk

Works perfect!!!!! :clap: :clap: :goodjob: :goodjob: Beer's on me!

[Muchacho]

But only when you are in the menu buttons on the left side, right ? I tried to fix some focus issues in 6.10a by wrapping the vertical navigation in this panel, but didn't think about the preview window ... ;) I'll revert this change in the next update ...

Thanks- Glad to hear I am not crazy!

Also- a while back you added a new premieres catagory, but I cant seem to find it anywhere. I have it enabled in the sageMC preferences.

Thanks

[geogecko]

Thanks- Glad to hear I am not crazy!

Also- a while back you added a new premieres catagory, but I cant seem to find it anywhere. I have it enabled in the sageMC preferences.

Thanks

It's located in My TV...Schedule

Cycle through the top button selection, and when you click on it once, and nothing happens, wait about 2-3 seconds, and you'll see Premieres. You can change the number of days it looks out, which is directly proportional to how log it takes for that catagory to show up.

I have mine set to 14 days, since I don't check it that often, but it takes about 4-5 seconds to come up. 7 days is much faster.

[DaFrogBoy]

Just installed the SageMC 16x9 addon and so far I love it. There are only two things at this point that I have a question about:

1. How do I change the guide back to the original?

The guide is extremely slow to pop up, and difficult to read in comparison to the original guide. Is there any way to change only this portion back?

2. Commercial Skip is not working.

I followed the instructions (unzipped SageMC 5_10, then unzipped dev 6.10a, then selected the SageMC16x9.xml file), but the commercial skip does not appear to work. The options are available to enable it (and it says it's enabled), but it doesn't appear to do anything.

Is there any extra configuration that needs to be done to get this feature to work properly?


Thanks for any help you guys can provide!

- Jeremy

[kricker]

If you bring up the options panel on the guide, you can change how the guide 'looks'. You can get it better looking and more readable than the original guide IMHO.

[ke6guj]

Just installed the SageMC 16x9 addon and so far I love it. There are only two things at this point that I have a question about:

1. How do I change the guide back to the original?

The guide is extremely slow to pop up, and difficult to read in comparison to the original guide. Is there any way to change only this portion back?


Have you restarted your computer since you installed SageMC? If not, do that and the guide should be back to normal speed.

[blade]

2. Commercial Skip is not working.

I followed the instructions (unzipped SageMC 5_10, then unzipped dev 6.10a, then selected the SageMC16x9.xml file), but the commercial skip does not appear to work. The options are available to enable it (and it says it's enabled), but it doesn't appear to do anything.

Is there any extra configuration that needs to be done to get this feature to work properly?

You need to be running comskip or showanalyzer and Dirmon2 to detect the commercials.

The stv just allows Sage to read the txt or edl files created by the other programs it doesn't do any actual detection.

[MeInMaui]

Works perfect!!!!! :clap: :clap: :goodjob: :goodjob: Beer's on me!

Woohoo!!!!!!!!

[Brian E]

I just loaded the latest version of this STV and WOW!!! It sure has come a long way since I last played with the 16X9 version a couple of months ago. :goodjob:

[DaFrogBoy]

Have you restarted your computer since you installed SageMC? If not, do that and the guide should be back to normal speed.

No, I have not restarted since installing the UI. I will give that a try to see if that helps.

You need to be running comskip or showanalyzer and Dirmon2 to detect the commercials.

The stv just allows Sage to read the txt or edl files created by the other programs it doesn't do any actual detection.

Ahhh... I figured as much. So if I install one of those external applications I should be all set? Is there any additional configuration to do after installing one of those?

[Kirby]

Dirk,

Any chance of doing something like this for genres (copied my post from Mike's graphics thread):

Whats the solution for "Sci-Fi" vs. "Science Fiction" or whatever it was? Rather that having two genre's listed, would it be possible to hard code in a way for the STV to access a mapping file of sorts, that we could manually edit and define genre mappings? Examples (some quasi-xml code):

<GenreMapping>
<Genre="Music" Alias="Music Special" />
<Genre="Sci Fi" Alias="Science Fiction" />
</GenreMapping>

You get the idea I'm sure. :) I would think something like this would be quite useful, I know I would like to have it. As it stands now, you can change the genre of a show with nielm's webserver, but thats a lot of manual editting for those of us with huge libraries. Setting up a simple mapping could have its advantages!

At some point it just seems like people that create the guide data create genres on a whim.

[ke6guj]

Confirmed. I get images and cast information.

Looks like *someone* needs to do a complete reinstall of Sage! :eek: :D

I've been meaning to do a Sage purge, so that gave me the reason to. With a reinstall of Sage, and only the needed imports, I gave the IMDB another look. What I figured out is that I get cast info on movies, but not on TV shows. Looking at a couple shows vs. movies, there are differences in the syntax for the cast listings, that may be enough to cause it not to work correctly.

edit: Would it be possible to incude the TV episode lookup that nielm has included in his import?

[SageDonkey]

I love the 6.10 version, except, when I am watching TV and punch in a new channel number, the OSD changes to that channel number, but the TV does not. Then, when I do arrow up and down, all channels are now that number I punched in. If I channel up and down, it goes to the right channel, but still displays the one I punched in until I stop playback and go back in.

Anyone else having this problem?

[kricker]

Nope does not happen to me. I have this set in the SageMC options:
Select in OSD = Channel Entry
Try that and see what happens.

[joesmoe]

:jump: anyone have an idea on how to get the fastforward -rewind by dragging the curser on the timebar back?i had this prior to sagemc.

[Kirby]

Hey Dirk, I'm in the requesting mood I guess! :D How about genre icons in the Television -> Movies -> Genres section (and anywhere else they might be applied that I havent found yet)?

[ke6guj]

Found a wierd, non-fatal, bug.

In SageMC options, if you fast scroll through the right-side options with channel up/down and get to top or bottom of the list, it will cause the video preview to stutter. A pause and play will fix it.

Nothing major, just one of those "OK don't do that" deals.

[gplasky]

:jump: anyone have an idea on how to get the fastforward -rewind by dragging the curser on the timebar back?i had this prior to sagemc.
SageMC is designed for remote use. Not mouse use. You'll have to change to a different STV if you want more mouse functions.

Gerry

[snoopy]

LOL, me too. 2 FusionHDTV cards and a dual tuner PVR-500, doesn't lend itself to conflicts very often...

But, I like the work that is hopefully going to be done on the conflict management. Also like the little photoshops that were posted. :corn:Thanks.. that was lot's of work (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conflictmanagementsuggestioncl1.png). I'm glad at least two other folks are semi-interested in seeing some changes there. I must admit though, that all this talk of more, more, more... comming from me is understandably frustrating. If I were Dirk, I wouldn't blame him if he told me to jump in a lake. I just hope he keeps working on it. He sure has done an outstanding job for the community! :goodjob:

[SageDonkey]

Nope does not happen to me. I have this set in the SageMC options:
Select in OSD = Channel Entry
Try that and see what happens.
Thanks kricker. Select in OSD != Channel Entry was my problem. I keep forgetting about that feature (and posted about it on a previous release). Maybe next release I'll finally remember ;)

[Necro]

I've been meaning to do a Sage purge, so that gave me the reason to. With a reinstall of Sage, and only the needed imports, I gave the IMDB another look. What I figured out is that I get cast info on movies, but not on TV shows. Looking at a couple shows vs. movies, there are differences in the syntax for the cast listings, that may be enough to cause it not to work correctly.

edit: Would it be possible to incude the TV episode lookup that nielm has included in his import?

Are you even able to lookup TV shows? I cant get any TVshow information to be looked up via an IMDB search.

[Muchacho]

I spent the time yesterday installing comskip and dirmon. All I can say is everyone should do it. With this STV I am constantly reminded of how amazing sageTV is!

During all this I noticed a few things that I think would be good additions-
1- back in the day when you pressed select on the OSD it would bring up the timebar on the bottom and the little info screen on the top. I used to use it all the time to check the time and see how much was remaining on the show. It seems to have changed and in the "select on OSD" menu none of the options bring that back. I think it would be nice to have that as an option.

2-Make a "No Kids" filter in the recorded TV. Right now like 75% of the recorded stuff is kids shows (Dora, Backyardigans....) and it drives me nuts to have to see that when the kids are asleep. I think a filter that took out all things tagged with "childrens" would be a great addition.

Thanks for all the hard work.

[ke6guj]

Are you even able to lookup TV shows? I cant get any TVshow information to be looked up via an IMDB search.

Yup, TV shows look up just fine. The Cast info for TV shows doesn't work, but Nielm is aware of that issue. It appears that IMDB changed the format of the website again.

[Kirby]

Are you even able to lookup TV shows? I cant get any TVshow information to be looked up via an IMDB search.

Yup, TV shows look up just fine. The Cast info for TV shows doesn't work, but Nielm is aware of that issue. It appears that IMDB changed the format of the website again.

Are we talking of doing an IMDB lookup on a TV show with MC's default STV, or with nielm's addon? Because for me, in MC 6.10a (with genre fixes) I dont even have an option for IMDB search. It only appears for me on movies.

[ke6guj]

Are we talking of doing an IMDB lookup on a TV show with MC's default STV, or with nielm's addon? Because for me, in MC 6.10a (with genre fixes) I dont even have an option for IMDB search. It only appears for me on movies.

Yup, I'm talking about doing an IMDB lookup with SageMC 6.10a and without importing nielm's IMDB import. While in Program Info, hit the options button and you should see the IMDB search option in that menu.

[Kirby]

Yup, I'm talking about doing an IMDB lookup with SageMC 6.10a and without importing nielm's IMDB import. While in Program Info, hit the options button and you should see the IMDB search option in that menu.

Thats why, I dont have the options button mapped to my remote yet. I need to get that done!

[ke6guj]

Thats why, I dont have the options button mapped to my remote yet. I need to get that done!

Yup, get that done, the options button has some good options:D

Flachbar, any reason why IMDB Search is available in Program Info for Movies, but not for TV shows? It looks like the left side menu has the room for it.

[Madcoder]

I would like to DISABLE 2 new features. Are there settings that I can enter to disable the poster lookups of TV items (is it coming from the IMDB integration?) (it is wrong too much where I am), and is there a way to disable the behavior of the music queue trying to remove each song as it is played? As for the queue feature, it is buggy for me. Sometimes it takes away the last song played and sometimes it does not.

[JDizzy]

I am running previous version of 16x9 and when pushing the dvd button nothing happens....

Last night it said there was no dvd in the drive and now today nothing happens.

If I load an external dvd player it works fine (but don't know how to load external player from within Sage either.)

I would rather just use the built-in player as I have to change remotes when using external player...

Any suggestions?
JD

[ke6guj]

In nielm's IMDB search thread, STV Import: Imdb Search Interface (v4.0 31/Aug/2006) (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=174991&postcount=85), jbuszkie posted a fix in post #85 that seems to fix the Cast and Backstage info problem for TV shows with episodes.

Just shut down Sage and overwrite the nielm_sageimdb.jar in the JARS directory with the new 9/9/06 version. For me, it did require Java1.5 instead of Java1.4, so be aware of that.

[dflachbart]

In nielm's IMDB search thread, STV Import: Imdb Search Interface (v4.0 31/Aug/2006) (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?p=174991&postcount=85), jbuszkie posted a fix in post #85 that seems to fix the Cast and Backstage info problem for TV shows with episodes.

Just shut down Sage and overwrite the nielm_sageimdb.jar in the JARS directory with the new 9/9/06 version. For me, it did require Java1.5 instead of Java1.4, so be aware of that.
Yeah, you'll need that, at least until you can select the episodes in SageMC :D

http://www.flachbart.com/images/episodes.JPG


Dirk

[ke6guj]

Yeah, you'll need that, at least until you can select the episodes in SageMC :D

http://www.flachbart.com/images/episodes.JPG


Dirk
TEASE:D :D

[technazz]

If I do a manual ImDB search find the right match should there be a save button so I dont have to search again if I record it?

Technazz

[ke6guj]

Found a bug in 6.10a,

I tried to configure my custom menus, but the Custom2 Menu Screen is tied to the Custom3 Menu Screen, whatever you do to one, changes the other in the menu options screen.

If you look in the .properties file, you'll see something like thissagemc/mm_custom1_name=Favorites Excluder
sagemc/mm_custom1_screen=Favorite Excluder
sagemc/mm_custom2_name=Sleep Timer
sagemc/mm_custom2_screen=Xtra\: Custom Menus by malore
sagemc/mm_custom3_name=Custom Menus

So, when you try to access the Custom3 menu, it doesn't do anything since it is missing the sagemc/mm_custom3_screen=

I was able to edit the .properties file and add in the line and point it to the proper screen and it works.


sagemc/mm_custom1_name=Favorites Excluder
sagemc/mm_custom1_screen=Favorite Excluder
sagemc/mm_custom2_name=Sleep Timer
sagemc/mm_custom2_screen=Sleep Timer
sagemc/mm_custom3_name=Custom Menus
sagemc/mm_custom3_screen=Xtra\: Custom Menus by malore

[Ted@TNT]

Let me preface this by stating that, admittedly, I'm what my freinds and wife refer to as anal-retentive.

If I discover that there is a show out there that I enjoy and haven't seen, and is in syndication, SageTV is my savior. I simply set it as a favorite and watch the recorded episodes pile up. This is when the isssues start for me.

As much as possible, I have to watch the episodes in order. If I have twelve or twenty-three shows recorded, I have to grab info on each in order to check the OA (original airing) date. Could one of the sort options be to arrange the episodes within a series by OA date instead of by recording date? I don't know enough about SageMC to know if this is simple or hard, but I think it would be an appreciated feature.

Can anyone confirm or deny my presumption here? Would this be a nice feature, or a waste of programming time that could be better used elsewhere?

Thanks,

[MeInMaui]

As much as possible, I have to watch the episodes in order. If I have twelve or twenty-three shows recorded, I have to grab info on each in order to check the OA (original airing) date. Could one of the sort options be to arrange the episodes within a series by OA date instead of by recording date? I don't know enough about SageMC to know if this is simple or hard, but I think it would be an appreciated feature.

Can anyone confirm or deny my presumption here? Would this be a nice feature, or a waste of programming time that could be better used elsewhere?

Thanks,

Hi Ted,

Good news! It's in there already. This was one of my first feature requests when Dirk began doing updates to SageMC. I had (and still have :blush:) 117 episodes of 24 recorded and ready to watch and I wanted to watch them in their original order. It is a great feature.

Aloha,
Mike

[Ted@TNT]

Hi Ted,

Good news! It's in there already.

Hey, I've got an idea, how about we all make requests for existing features! :blush:

I can't say that I'm all that surprised - I'm amazed at how much SageTV has changed since I started using it. I was thrilled with version 2 when it came out. SageMC and all of the customizations of the last 18 mos., however, have completely taken me by surprise - I'm overwhelmed with options!

Thanks, Mike, for setting me straight - you rock!

[ke6guj]

For some reason, ever since I reinstalled Sage and SageMC, I couldn't enable watched bars. Couldn't find them anywhere in the SageMC options. I did see the color settings, but no enable for the bars themselves. I was able to edit the .properties to enable them so they work now. Is it missing from the options or am I just missing it?



A possible feature request...
Would it be possible to retain access to the filename and EP/SP### info that the stock STV has. Sometimes, the EP/SP info can help with tracking down recording issues, and the filename is important if I want to copy a specific show.

Another reason would be that sometimes Sage'll have a show recorded that means nothing to me, I don't use IR and it isn't a favorite or manual recording. A quick look at the filename will show me that it was recorded under a different filename as afavorite. But apparantly the EPG changed after the fact, so Sage realized that it was a misrecording and re-named the show in my recordings, but it still has the original filename.

[dflachbart]

For some reason, ever since I reinstalled Sage and SageMC, I couldn't enable watched bars. Couldn't find them anywhere in the SageMC options. I did see the color settings, but no enable for the bars themselves. I was able to edit the .properties to enable them so they work now. Is it missing from the options or am I just missing it?

Doh, you are right, they must have gone missing at some point. But they were definetly in there when I added that feature ... ;)



A possible feature request...
Would it be possible to retain access to the filename and EP/SP### info that the stock STV has. Sometimes, the EP/SP info can help with tracking down recording issues, and the filename is important if I want to copy a specific show.

Another reason would be that sometimes Sage'll have a show recorded that means nothing to me, I don't use IR and it isn't a favorite or manual recording. A quick look at the filename will show me that it was recorded under a different filename as afavorite. But apparantly the EPG changed after the fact, so Sage realized that it was a misrecording and re-named the show in my recordings, but it still has the original filename.

What did Ted say spot on ... request for existing features ?
Both is already in there ... :D

The EP/SP info (you mean the ShowID, right ?) is displayed when you toggle the additional info on the 'Program Info' screen (together with the watched bar) with the 'Info' button.

And if you press '1' on the same screen, it will toggle the last line between EP/SP and the filename. Dont ask me why '1', I just had to pick a remote button which had no function assigned. Ok, I admit that I never published that one since I didnt think anyone would need it, but I guess I was wrong ... :)

I love requests for existing features ... :D


Dirk

[dflachbart]

I am running previous version of 16x9 and when pushing the dvd button nothing happens....


Any suggestions?
JD
Hi JD,

which version of SageMC are you running ? And do you mean a 'DVD' button on your remote, or the DVD menu on the main menu ?

Dirk

[ke6guj]

What did Ted say spot on ... request for existing features ?
Both is already in there ... :D

The EP/SP info (you mean the ShowID, right ?) is displayed when you toggle the additional info on the 'Program Info' screen (together with the watched bar) with the 'Info' button.

And if you press '1' on the same screen, it will toggle the last line between EP/SP and the filename. Dont ask me why '1', I just had to pick a remote button which had no function assigned. Ok, I admit that I never published that one since I didnt think anyone would need it, but I guess I was wrong ... :)




Dirk

Doh, I looked in Options while in Program Info, like the stock STV, but didn't think to hit the info button. Perhaps instead of using the '1' to toggle, have the info button toggle between all 3 options, normal, ShowID, and filename.

I love requests for existing features ... :D
Yup, less work to do if it's already been done:D

[dflachbart]

I would like to DISABLE 2 new features. Are there settings that I can enter to disable the poster lookups of TV items (is it coming from the IMDB integration?) (it is wrong too much where I am), and is there a way to disable the behavior of the music queue trying to remove each song as it is played? As for the queue feature, it is buggy for me. Sometimes it takes away the last song played and sometimes it does not.
IMDB lookup can be disabled in the SageMC options. I'll add an option for the queue update in the next version.

So after the song has finished playing it sometimes does not get removed from the queue ? Hmm, do others see that too ?

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Yup, get that done, the options button has some good options:D

Flachbar, any reason why IMDB Search is available in Program Info for Movies, but not for TV shows? It looks like the left side menu has the room for it.

For TV shows the menu adds a 'Record Series" button, and in certain situations it will then already reach the max number (7).

If I add it, I'm sure I'll shortly get a complain that sometimes the buttons get cut off ... ;)


Dirk

[ke6guj]

For TV shows the menu adds a 'Record Series" button, and in certain situations it will then already reach the max number (7).

If I add it, I'm sure I'll shortly get a complain that sometimes the buttons get cut off ... ;)


Dirk

That makes sense. I just hadn't noticed a situation that maxed out the buttons. Oh well, no big deal for me since I first noticed it in "options" before I even realized that it was in the left menu on movies.

[dflachbart]

During all this I noticed a few things that I think would be good additions-
1- back in the day when you pressed select on the OSD it would bring up the timebar on the bottom and the little info screen on the top. I used to use it all the time to check the time and see how much was remaining on the show. It seems to have changed and in the "select on OSD" menu none of the options bring that back. I think it would be nice to have that as an option.

Hi Muchacho,

you can still do this by pressing the 'Info' button ... :)

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Hi Dirk,

I hope you wouldn't mind adding the ability to:
Log out of Windows, exit all programs
Reboot Computer
Shut Down Computer
Sleep ComputerTo the exit screen of SageMC. In particular the one I would use most is numero uno. I have a MCE remote and I put the client in the bedroom to sleep when I am done for the evening. The problem is that because FSE is enabled it doesn't always wake up in a great mood. ;) If I exit Sage, log out of Windows, and sleep the computer, I am able to wake it up in a more cooperative state. With the MCE remote and native drivers (not using HIP or anything else) I can't relaunch Sage from the remote. If I am logged out of Windows, it relaunches when I select with the remote to log back on.

TIA,

B
There will be two new properties in the next version:

sagemc/exit_cmd
sagemc/exit_cmd_args

which will allow you to specify an application with arguments which gets executed before SageTV exits. You can use a utility like e.g. nircmd to do all the things you mentioned above. I tested it here, and it works fine.

Dirk

[pvr599]

Again, I'm sure this question has been asked somewhere, but I've searched now for 6 hours and have been unable to find a clear answer or post.

Could someone please tell me or direct me to the post that tells me how to setup commercial skipping using SageMC 6.10a? I am so clueless that I don't even know what to download. I have downloaded the latest (I think) of Comskip & Dirmon. Is that all I need.

Any direction would be greatly appreciated.

[ke6guj]

OK, two more feature requests, probably already implimented :D

More file info, like filesize and recording quality.

Also, show padding in the timeline.

[Muchacho]

Hi Muchacho,

you can still do this by pressing the 'Info' button ... :)

Dirk


Thanks-

I will configure my remote.

[Muchacho]

Again, I'm sure this question has been asked somewhere, but I've searched now for 6 hours and have been unable to find a clear answer or post.

Could someone please tell me or direct me to the post that tells me how to setup commercial skipping using SageMC 6.10a? I am so clueless that I don't even know what to download. I have downloaded the latest (I think) of Comskip & Dirmon. Is that all I need.

Any direction would be greatly appreciated.


It is easier than you would think. I set it up the other night and wish I had set it up when it was first released!

I used comskip and dirmon2. Unpack both, change the comskip.ini file so that edl file writing is enabled. Set up dirmon2, just like the pics on the top of the dirmon2 thread. Just change the box so that comskip.exe is run instead of show analyzer. I would leave the box unchecked about hide window until you are sure that it is all working.

Install and start the service and then after one window pops up stop the dirmon svc. Check and make sure that the log file shows that everything when well and then start up sage, enable comskip in the sageMC options. then look at the show and see that the commercials are blocked out. SageMC makes this part a no-brainer and it works sweet from the sage side.

Then you are pretty much set. I found it helpful to have the task manager enabled when setting it up and looking to make sure that only one comskip was running at a time. If you mess with it all too much sometimes dirmon will have started two comskips and it slows it all down.

It takes a while to run through all your recorded programs, especially all the kids shows that we have. Then your all set, it runs in the background, does not eat up many resources, and you will wish you set it up years ago.

I still have a problem with comskip finding the .ini file. I wound up putting a copy of the .ini file in each of the directories where my recordings are stored and it works fine.

I also have not found a way to let my HD's power down with dirmon polling my drives. I think it would be nice if there was some way of not checking when nothing has been recorded so the HD can power down... I imagine that may be tough to do though.

Good luck, it is not that hard

[blade]

Just a few things to add.

I used comskip and dirmon2. Unpack both, change the comskip.ini file so that edl file writing is enabled. Set up dirmon2, just like the pics on the top of the dirmon2 thread. Just change the box so that comskip.exe is run instead of show analyzer. I would leave the box unchecked about hide window until you are sure that it is all working.

When setting up comskip to use edl files also add "output_default=0" (without the quotes) to the comskip.ini. This will prevent comskip from generating a txt file. You may also want comskip to process "live TV". This allows it to start processing the show as it is still recording. This is also set in the comskip ini file. When setting up Dirmon2 to use edl set the trigger to edl instead of txt.

I found it helpful to have the task manager enabled when setting it up and looking to make sure that only one comskip was running at a time. If you mess with it all too much sometimes dirmon will have started two comskips and it slows it all down.

Once all of your current files are processed you may want to run more than 1 instance of comskip at a time, especially if you're processing live TV and have multiple tuners. An hour long show can be processed in just a couple of minutes. So you can imagine how little processor power is required to scan the show in real time. If you have 4 tuners you could run 4 instances of comskip and process them as they record and by the time the show ends comskip is finished with all of them.

I still have a problem with comskip finding the .ini file. I wound up putting a copy of the .ini file in each of the directories where my recordings are stored and it works fine.

A better way is to leave the ini file in the comskip folder and add "--ini=C:/ComSkip/comskip.ini" to the command line options in dirmon2 (you would of course change the path to whatever path your ini file is located at). This way comskip is only using the one ini file and when changes are made to it you don't have multiple files to change.

[pvr599]

THANK YOU!!!

One quick question, I'm pretty sure I have to install Dirmon2 to it's own directory, but what about comskip? Does that go to it's own directory or to the SageTV\SageTV directory?

EDIT: Or does it matter at all?

[blade]

One quick question, I'm pretty sure I have to install Dirmon2 to it's own directory, but what about comskip? Does that go to it's own directory or to the SageTV\SageTV directory?

Its own directory.

[dflachbart]

THANK YOU!!!

One quick question, I'm pretty sure I have to install Dirmon2 to it's own directory, but what about comskip? Does that go to it's own directory or to the SageTV\SageTV directory?
You can put this anywhere you want (but I'd recommend putting it in its own folder), because you can specify the actual location in DirMon2.


Dirk

[JDizzy]

Hi JD,

which version of SageMC are you running ? And do you mean a 'DVD' button on your remote, or the DVD menu on the main menu ?

Dirk

Sorry, I think it was a false alarm or a system hiccup....rebooted, tried several other DVDs that worked, went back to suspect DVD and it would not load again.. tried yet another and it loaded so I think bad DVD..

I am running v6.10a that 'Kricker' posted a few pages back. I wanted the MovieTimes plugin and couldn't get it installed but read where he already had it in STV so that was the ticket...(thanks!) and the trailers play flawlwssly with mplayer))... also running WebRadio and Showanalyzer (which also works flawlessly!).

IMHO, Sage WITH MC and a few other tweaks is by far the best out there.
This is the 1st time I have been able to play music, videos, dvd, and record tv without switching programs and remotes...

A BIG thanks to all!

Is anyone considering working on the music end of Sage as far as:
Visualizations (love that dripping paint effect)
or music lookup similar to what the Webradio displays, or MC in the videos.

This is the last area I feel is weak. I was loading J River Media through Sage but it requires a different remote. (I am using the Hauppauge 45 button but also have Snapstream Firefly which works with JRiver). I also found that if JRiver goes into fullscreen visualizations you cannot return to Sage without using the mouse. JRiver rocks but I hate getting stranded there....

Tootles...
JD

[pvr599]

Ok, I followed all the directions here and can see the .txt fle Dirmon created. I opened Sage and enabled comskip. I checked one of the recored programs I had and I don't clearly see, on the timeline, where commercials are blocked out. I watched the show for a while and the commercials are still there.

I've attached one of the .txt files so you can see if it looks right.

As I have a show playing in Sage and have the recordings folder open, I can see Dirmon2 creating a TXT files, so I can see that LiveTV is working. I also see the Command Window open and looking like it did initiate Comskip.

I know that this should be a very simple setup, but I always manage to make things overly difficult :p

[JDizzy]

I know that this should be a very simple setup, but I always manage to make things overly difficult :p

No, that's my forte!

Make sure you have Commercial Skip enabled in the TV options menu (right click while watching live tv)
OR,
I used comskip and it worked fine BUT it was taking 80% of my resources. I switched to Showanalyzer and that droped to 40%.
May I suggest Showanalyzer?? It can not detect commercials in realtime but will run right after the show finishes...takes about 8-10 minutes to process an hour show.
I basically extracted their zipfile into the program files/sagetv/sagetv/showanalyzer directory (I think you just extract into root Sage directory and it creates the Showanalyzer directory), and followed the directions. You must also download their copy of comskip and drop it into the program files/sagetv/sagetv directory (where you have your comskip file now)and also 2 codecs but that is well documanted. Their comskip file basically tells Sage to use Showanalyzer rather than the orginal comskip. BTW Showanalyzer requires a key (2 week trial free) but is well worth the $10 bucks...

Enable the Commercial Skip options in setup and also make sure you have Commercial Skip enabled in the TV options menu (right click while watching live tv)

Do a search in this thread on 'showanalyzer'

BTW, I never did use Dirmon and everything worked fine?!!
JD

JD

[pvr599]

HMM, well that's a new way to do it. I'll give that a try too.

Funny, I think that's why I got so confused from the start. SO many ways to set this up and not one clear cut answer which I think that's what most people here are looking for.

After I try the Dirmon2 & Comskip way (since I already have that started) I'll try your suggestion and thank you.

[bcjenkins]

There will be two new properties in the next version:

sagemc/exit_cmd
sagemc/exit_cmd_args

which will allow you to specify an application with arguments which gets executed before SageTV exits. You can use a utility like e.g. nircmd to do all the things you mentioned above. I tested it here, and it works fine.

Dirk
Thank you! :goodjob:

[dflachbart]

Ok, I followed all the directions here and can see the .txt fle Dirmon created. I opened Sage and enabled comskip. I checked one of the recored programs I had and I don't clearly see, on the timeline, where commercials are blocked out. I watched the show for a while and the commercials are still there.

I've attached one of the .txt files so you can see if it looks right.

As I have a show playing in Sage and have the recordings folder open, I can see Dirmon2 creating a TXT files, so I can see that LiveTV is working. I also see the Command Window open and looking like it did initiate Comskip.

I know that this should be a very simple setup, but I always manage to make things overly difficult :p

If you are using a client, you have to make sure that it uses the exact same paths to the recording directories as the server (usually achieved by using UNC paths). Do a search on UNC and comskip in the forums for details.


Dirk

[bcjenkins]

No, that's my forte!

Make sure you have Commercial Skip enabled in the TV options menu (right click while watching live tv)
OR,
I used comskip and it worked fine BUT it was taking 80% of my resources. I switched to Showanalyzer and that droped to 40%.
May I suggest Showanalyzer?? It can not detect commercials in realtime but will run right after the show finishes...takes about 8-10 minutes to process an hour show.
I basically extracted their zipfile into the program files/sagetv/sagetv/showanalyzer directory (I think you just extract into root Sage directory and it creates the Showanalyzer directory), and followed the directions. You must also download their copy of comskip and drop it into the program files/sagetv/sagetv directory (where you have your comskip file now)and also 2 codecs but that is well documanted. Their comskip file basically tells Sage to use Showanalyzer rather than the orginal comskip. BTW Showanalyzer requires a key (2 week trial free) but is well worth the $10 bucks...

Enable the Commercial Skip options in setup and also make sure you have Commercial Skip enabled in the TV options menu (right click while watching live tv)

Do a search in this thread on 'showanalyzer'

BTW, I never did use Dirmon and everything worked fine?!!
JD

JD
I use SA in real time. I have it set to run up to 4 or 5 shows at once. Take a look at the config/command line parameters.

B

[dflachbart]

I used comskip and it worked fine BUT it was taking 80% of my resources. I switched to Showanalyzer and that droped to 40%.


You can instruct comskip to use less CPU resources by specifying the '-n' option. So you would use e.g these command line options in DirMon2:

-n --ini=E:\video\comskip\comskip.ini


Dirk

[bcjenkins]

I just set up a new client machine, installed SageClient, Sage16x9 and then 6.10a. I can't seem to recall how to turn on the HD icons. Also, on my main machine, I was able to place weather on the front menu. How did I manage that feat? I can't even find weather now.

TIA

B

[bcjenkins]

Also, for the comskip comments.. I noticed mention of text files. Look into edl. In show analyzer, I disable SageTV support and use mplayer (edl) instead.

B

[dflachbart]

I just set up a new client machine, installed SageClient, Sage16x9 and then 6.10a. I can't seem to recall how to turn on the HD icons. Also, on my main machine, I was able to place weather on the front menu. How did I manage that feat? I can't even find weather now.

TIA

B
I think the hdtv.png icon is not part of the base install, so you need to grab one of MeInMauis icon packs. For the weather menu, bring up the options menu on the main menu where you can enable several different weather screens.

Dirk

[pvr599]

FLACHBAR,

f you are using a client, you have to make sure that it uses the exact same paths to the recording directories as the server (usually achieved by using UNC paths). Do a search on UNC and comskip in the forums for details.

This is being setup on the server computer doing all the recordings. I do have a MediaMVP upstairs, but haven't gone any further with a client. Does this makea difference?

Here is how Dirmon is setup in Job Management:
Directories: c:\Recordings
Programs to run: C:\Program Files\Comskip\comskip.exe
Targets: mpg
Command Line Options: --ini=C:\Program Files\Comskip\comskip.ini
Must Not Exist: txt

Does this help you figure out what I'm doing wrong?

[bcjenkins]

I think the hdtv.png icon is not part of the base install, so you need to grab one of MeInMauis icon packs. For the weather menu, bring up the options menu on the main menu where you can enable several different weather screens.

Dirk
Thanks again, I couldn't figure out how to bring up the options menu :bang: but I found it in the properties file and just added it.

mlbdude/mm_weather_enabled=true

B

[dflachbart]

FLACHBAR,

This is being setup on the server computer doing all the recordings. I do have a MediaMVP upstairs, but haven't gone any further with a client. Does this makea difference?

So you are playing back the files on the server, and you don't see the commercial breaks on the time line ? Strange, it should work out of the box in this case ...



Here is how Dirmon is setup in Job Management:
Directories: c:\Recordings
Programs to run: C:\Program Files\Comskip\comskip.exe
Targets: mpg
Command Line Options: --ini=C:\Program Files\Comskip\comskip.ini
Must Not Exist: txt

Does this help you figure out what I'm doing wrong?
I think your DirMon setup is fine since it does create the *.txt files.


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Thanks again, I couldn't figure out how to bring up the options menu :bang: but I found it in the properties file and just added it.

mlbdude/mm_weather_enabled=true

B
You can map a remote button to the Sage 'Options" command, or use ESC on the keyboard. The options command is used in so many screens that it is really worth having a button mapped to it ... :)


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Is anyone considering working on the music end of Sage as far as:
Visualizations (love that dripping paint effect)
or music lookup similar to what the Webradio displays, or MC in the videos.

Hi JD,

I am currently not using Sage for music either, I use Meedio for all my music (which is in FLAC format). I won't promise anything, but if SageTV 5.1 will really support FLAC tags as promised, I might consider doing some work on the SageMC music library to get rid of Meedio. I won't be touching the Sage visualizations though, since I only use the Winamp visualizations with my music, simply can't live without the freakin awesome milkdrop ... ;)


Dirk

[bcjenkins]

You can map a remote button to the Sage 'Options" command, or use ESC on the keyboard. The options command is used in so many screens that it is really worth having a button mapped to it ... :)


Dirk
I don't know if you can map buttons on the MCE remote. I really like that remote because, it's cheap and can control my TV power and volume. I also have the MCE KB I pull out when I need to do txt, etc.

thanks again.

B

[pvr599]

So you are playing back the files on the server, and you don't see the commercial breaks on the time line ? Strange, it should work out of the box in this case ...

Yes, directly on the server. I'll have a whole new slew of questions once I get a client going :0)

The thing I do see on the timeline is at the beginning and at the end of a recording there are long black blocks. But only at the beginning and the end, none periodically throughout the recording where you think the commercials should be.
One recording does have a split near the end. I watched the program in that area and it did skip the commercial perfectly, but only at the very end of the program.

[pvr599]

JDizzy:
I tried your way and it works PERFECT. :clap:

I basically extracted their zipfile into the program files/sagetv/sagetv/showanalyzer directory (I think you just extract into root Sage directory and it creates the Showanalyzer directory), and followed the directions.
This part is strange, I dowloaded the current "beta" version and it actually has an installer to install to the Dragon Global directory. This way seems to be fine.

You must also download their copy of comskip and drop it into the program files/sagetv/sagetv directory (where you have your comskip file now)and also 2 codecs but that is well documanted. Their comskip file basically tells Sage to use Showanalyzer rather than the orginal comskip.
I did this, I downloaded the comskip proxy and put it in the SageTV directory. I did download the 2 codec, but haven't installed them. I think maybe they come with the latest version, I don't know though, but Showanalyzer worked pretty fast.


BTW Showanalyzer requires a key (2 week trial free) but is well worth the $10 bucks...
I WILL be getting a key. Right now I am using a trial.

One question, When showanalyzer is doing it's thing a window pops up right in the middle of the screen while it's working. Is there anyway to get rid of that or is that happening because I have Background Processing: While Awake and/or While Recording enabled?

Thanks for the tip and to everyone else who helped me.

[JDizzy]

JDizzy:
I tried your way and it works PERFECT. :clap:


This part is strange, I dowloaded the current "beta" version and it actually has an installer to install to the Dragon Global directory. This way seems to be fine.

One question, When showanalyzer is doing it's thing a window pops up right in the middle of the screen while it's working. Is there anyway to get rid of that or is that happening because I have Background Processing: While Awake and/or While Recording enabled?

Thanks for the tip and to everyone else who helped me.

Oh, I forgot that there was an installer with Showanalyzer but no worries, it just made it that much easier...

Also, run the Showanalyzer config program and make sure that it runs in 'invisable' mode and check the other setting from that page...you'll figure it out. The config program should reside in the showanalyzer directory that was created during install...

Enjoy!
JD

[pvr599]

Thanks JDizzy,
The only fine tip you didn't give me, but I did get from one of the other helpers was that I should have done this when it first came out.
Thanks a ton again, this is getting SO great!!! :goodjob:

[pvr599]

JDizzy,
One last question, do you use comclean or anything like that?

[JDizzy]

JDizzy,
One last question, do you use comclean or anything like that?

I am new to this also and don't really know what comclean does.... but it might actually come back and chop the commercials out as opposed to reading the text file that marks where the beginning/end of commercial is...

One thing I did notice is that there are getting to be a few .txt files building up in my Showanalyzer directory.
I wonder if when you finally delete the show you used showanalyzer on if it also deletes the .txt file associated with it....

Or is this where comclean comes in?

Anyone

[JDizzy]

Does anyone have the files for Weather Suite (WRS)??

The wiki and downloads get an error when trying to access the file...

I got a weatherconfig.xml from the forums but am missing the .jar file (I think)

JD

[blade]

The thing I do see on the timeline is at the beginning and at the end of a recording there are long black blocks. But only at the beginning and the end, none periodically throughout the recording where you think the commercials should be.
One recording does have a split near the end. I watched the program in that area and it did skip the commercial perfectly, but only at the very end of the program.

Your problem with comskip was that it couldn't find the ini file for some reason, which is odd because you were using the command line parameter (assuming you had the correct path). This is actually Dirmon2's fault, there is a bug that causes comskip to look for it's ini file in the wrong location. If the command line parameter doesn't work the other options are to place the ini file in the system32 folder (which no longer worked for me with the very latest version of comskip) or place a copy of it in each recording directory which is messy IMO.

I used ShowAnalyzer in the past, but dumped it because it wasn't as accurate as comskip and it would hang when processing shows pretty regularly.

Also if SageMC supports it (or there is anyway to add it) I'd use edl instead of txt files because it's more accurate. Txt files give the skip time in frames where as edl gives the actual time and for some reason using the time is more accurate.

[dflachbart]

Also if SageMC supports it (or there is anyway to add it) I'd use edl instead of txt files because it's more accurate. Txt files give the skip time in frames where as edl gives the actual time and for some reason using the time is more accurate.

Yep, SageMC supports both EDL and TXT, it reads whatever format is available.


Dirk

[blade]

One thing I did notice is that there are getting to be a few .txt files building up in my Showanalyzer directory.
I wonder if when you finally delete the show you used showanalyzer on if it also deletes the .txt file associated with it....

No they don't get deleted. Dirmon2 cleans up the txt files when the mpeg associated with the txt file has been deleted.

[dflachbart]

One thing I did notice is that there are getting to be a few .txt files building up in my Showanalyzer directory.
I wonder if when you finally delete the show you used showanalyzer on if it also deletes the .txt file associated with it....

You mean they are building up in your recording directory, right ?

Well, this is the beauty of using DirMon2, you can define cleanup tasks that take care of this. Also, it allows you to schedule multiple comskip tasks concurrently.

Dirk

[blade]

BTW, I never did use Dirmon and everything worked fine?!!


How are you launching ShowAnalyzer if you're not using Dirmon2? I know some of the STVs can launch comskip, but last I knew none of them cleaned up the txt files afterwards.

[JDizzy]

How are you launching ShowAnalyzer if you're not using Dirmon2? I know some of the STVs can launch comskip, but last I knew none of them cleaned up the txt files afterwards.

Showanalyzer launches by itself right after recoding is complete using a comskip proxy... in other words an altered comskip that calls showanalyzer rather than running comskip....

And yes, the txt files are piling up in my capture directory....I am looking at dirmon right now to schedule cleaning but for some reason it is not deleting the files... I only need it to clean and not to run Showanalyzer.

JD

[CanadianEh]

Hey guys,

I've got a strange one... After applying the WebRadio, DVD burning, and RSS Newsfeed plugins, I no longer have control of the volume and do not see the slider bar when watching programs. The volume control still works in the WebRadio portion and when listening to MP3's.

Reverting to older SageMC XML's doesn't seem to fix it (using 6.10a, btw) - however, if I switch back to the original SageTV3.XML file, it works fine. Any thoughts on how to fix this easily? Any quick steps to add it back in via Studio, if that is the issue?


Thanks!!!!!!:goodjob: :goodjob:

[blade]

Showanalyzer launches by itself right after recoding is complete using a comskip proxy... in other words an altered comskip that calls showanalyzer rather than running comskip....

And yes, the txt files are piling up in my capture directory....I am looking at dirmon right now to schedule cleaning but for some reason it is not deleting the files... I only need it to clean and not to run Showanalyzer.

JD

Wow I didn't know anyone still used comskip proxy. Personally I'd use Dirmon2 for everything, it can do a lot more than comskip proxy. Such as process live TV (shows as they record), process multiple shows at once, schedule certain times of the day not to process files, clean up the txt or edl files, and a few more things.

[JDizzy]

Wow I didn't know anyone still used comskip proxy. Personally I'd use Dirmon2 for everything, it can do a lot more than comskip proxy. Such as process live TV (shows as they record), process multiple shows at once, schedule certain times of the day not to process files, clean up the txt or edl files, and a few more things.

Well, that is why we are here... and I thought I was on to something.

So, you are saying that I could use dirmon2 to check my capture directory every few minutes and if there was an mpg file in there without a txt file to start....eh?? and then, on the way out check to see if there were any txt files without mpg files and if so delete them....eh??

I just messed with dirmon and it got my drive sooo busy I barely got control enough to turm it off....scary !!
JD

[bcjenkins]

Thanks again, I couldn't figure out how to bring up the options menu :bang: but I found it in the properties file and just added it.

mlbdude/mm_weather_enabled=true

B
I am a little slow this weekend. Too many late nights with the new machine. I can use the "clear" button on the MCE remote to turn get the menu.

oy vey

[blade]

So, you are saying that I could use dirmon2 to check my capture directory every few minutes and if there was an mpg file in there without a txt file to start....eh?? and then, on the way out check to see if there were any txt files without mpg files and if so delete them....eh??

That's exactly what it does.

[peternm22]

First off, thanks to mlbdude and flachbar for the great work on SageMC. I finally upgraded from 2.0.20 because of it (and ShowAnalyzer).

A few feature questions/ideas/requests:

Other Showings
-Being able to simply hit "Record" on the remote when something is highlighted, instead of having to hit "Select" then "Record", then back out of it.

Show Padding
-On the standard STV, it use to be possible to set padding in 15 minute increments using the Fast Foward or Rewind buttons instead of just 1 minute increments. Is this functionality not part of SageMC? If so, any chance of it making a comeback?

Commercial Skipping
-Being able to set shows to not be processed for commercials. I know you can do this in the ShowAnalyzer config, but it would be handy to having something under the "Advanced Record" options which can be accessed quickly.


Thanks again for the great work guys.

[GlennPT]

Maybe I am missing something but I am very confused about how to install mods (The SageMC 16X9) to be exact. The instructions say to extract it while preserving the path. Extract it to where? The "Program\Files\Sage" directory or some temp directory? Does the loading of the SAgeMC_169.XML file copy the files from my temp location? How does the installing of latest developement version works (version 6.X by Flachbar) with in to everything, again into extisting path or temp directory?

I as these questions because I thought I had the SageMC installed but I can't seem to get to the any of the MC Options setting that I am reading great things about.
BTW any sure fire way to tell what is really running.
Thanks for the help, I don't mean to be a pain, but I need to understand what I am doing. :eek:

[dflachbart]

Maybe I am missing something but I am very confused about how to install mods (The SageMC 16X9) to be exact. The instructions say to extract it while preserving the path. Extract it to where? The "Program\Files\Sage" directory or some temp directory?

Hi Glenn,

yes you have to extract it to your Sage installation folder. The SageMC install zip contains files relative to this folder, e.g.

STVs/SageTV3/SageMC_169.xml
STVs/SageTV3/SageMCE/Images/...

etc.

So if your SageTV installation folder (which contains SageTV.exe) is "C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV" and you extract the SageMC base package to this folder, it will unzip SageMC_169.xml to C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3, etc. And do the same for the latest dev STV installation file.


BTW any sure fire way to tell what is really
Yes, look in the 'Settings' menu on the right, it shows the current STV version (right below the java version).

Dirk

[CanadianEh]

Hey guys,

I've got a strange one... After applying the WebRadio, DVD burning, and RSS Newsfeed plugins, I no longer have control of the volume and do not see the slider bar when watching programs. The volume control still works in the WebRadio portion and when listening to MP3's.

Reverting to older SageMC XML's doesn't seem to fix it (using 6.10a, btw) - however, if I switch back to the original SageTV3.XML file, it works fine. Any thoughts on how to fix this easily? Any quick steps to add it back in via Studio, if that is the issue?


Thanks!!!!!!:goodjob: :goodjob:


Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? HEEEEELLLLLLP!!! :)

[dflachbart]

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? HEEEEELLLLLLP!!! :)
Did you try to disable the Global Volume OSD in the SageMC options ?


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Hi guys,

I have some new goodies for ya: :)


IMDB image cache

This functionality integrates the IMDB lookup more seamlessly into SageMC. I implemented an image cache which stores the pictures on your harddrive after they have been retrieved by the automatic IMDB lookup. So once the image for a show has been automatically downloaded, it will be available immediately the next time you bring up the Program Info, and no further IMDB database lookup is necessary. The cache is implemented as a LRU cache, so that the most recent accessed pictures will always stay in the cache. The default size is 1000, and you can set an unlimited size with -1. Note that the cache in memory only holds the file names and not the actual pictures, so that even with very large caches the memory consumption of Sage is hardly affected. The cache location can be specified in the SageMC options, it defaults to SageMC/Images/IMDBCache (the directory will get created the first time you start SageMC)

I also added the 'Save' button for TV content to the IMDB result screens, which will allow you to select a different picture for a show in case the automatic lookup got the wrong one. Note that the new pic will only be shown after a SageTV restart because of the internal Sage image cache, there is nothing I can do about it.


Support for full size genre icons

I worked together with Mike to bring you full size genre icons :) Note that this has to be enabled in the SageMC icon options. I also implemented a genre-alias mechanism which allows to translate genre names for the icon lookup. See alias.properties in SageMC/Images/GenreIcons for details


Clip recording

Usually when you press REC on a show which you already have watched for some time the recording will also include the prior part. I have added the functionality to record the show from the current time (when you pressed the REC button). Together with the already implemented 'save partial recording' functionality it basically offers a convenient way to record a clip of a show with any start or end time. Note that the prior watched part of the mediafile has to get deleted before the recording will start, so there will be a delay of 3-4 seconds after you started the recording. This is the best I could achieve with what the Sage core currently has to offer. Also note that you cannot easily create multiple clips for the same show using this technique.


Exit command

I added properties "sagemc/exit_cmd" and "sagemc/exit_cmd_args" which let you specify a program and optional arguments (separated by ',') which should be invoked when you exit SageMC from the main menu.

Examples:
sagemc/exit_cmd=D\:\\tools\\nircmd\\nircmd.exe
sagemc/exit_cmd_args=exitwin,reboot



Other new features include:

- access to episodes in IMDB search
- IMDB trivia/quotes now scrollable
- updated manual IMDB search dialog
- 'Info' in Program Info now also toggles display of file name and file size
- added setting to disable automatic music queue update
- added listener for REC in 'Other Showings'
- added 15 mins increase/decrease of fav padding options with Skip Fwd/Skip Bkwd
- added watched bar setting back to SageMC options
- fixed Custom3 menu issue

Note that the IMDB caching and genre alias functionality is contained in a new JAR file 'sagemc.jar', so make sure to extract this (and nielm's new 4.1 IMDB jar file which is also included) together with the new STV file, and restart SageTV after the installation.


Dirk

[MeInMaui]

:clap: Woohoo! Man that was fast! Guess I better get off my duff and upload some icons tonight!

Edit:

I have a quick question. Does the new IMDB lookup work with java 1.4?

Also, I'd like to submit the first feature request for v6.12 :p
This is from neilm's IMDB thread:

New version released:
Sep 9 2006 4.1 for SageTV 5.0
STV: RIGHT key now selects in lists (so you can forward/back with left/right)
STV: NTE status icons in search page
JAR: fixed cast/backstage lists for TV series (thanks jbuszkie)

(so if you just want the series cast list parsing to work, you don't need to re-import, just restart sage)

Did you notice that little note about 'RIGHT key' functionality nestled in there? That's a really good idea! I still have the habit of pressing the right key to select a show from my TiVo days. :blush: Just a thought.

Aloha,
Mike

[Kirby]

I also implemented a genre-alias mechanism which allows to translate genre names for the icon lookup. See alias.properties in SageMC/Images/GenreIcons for details

Thank you thank you thank you!!!! No more manual genre editting with the webserver plugin needed now!!! :jump: :jump: :clap: :goodjob:

[CanadianEh]

Did you try to disable the Global Volume OSD in the SageMC options ?


Dirk


Disabled that setting - re-opened SageTV - the volume controls still do not work :(

[horseflesh]

Nice. :)

Any chance for screen cap support in the future? I know with the various renderers available it isn't necessarily easy, or even possible... but I'm really hoping to be able to hit a button and get a .bmp or other image file of the current video frame saved out. Frame advance/rewind would be useful there as well.

Or maybe a screencap command in Sage can just pass off a command to ffmpeg like so:

http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2005-December/001619.html

[dflachbart]

Disabled that setting - re-opened SageTV - the volume controls still do not work :(
Are your volume buttons mapped to VolumeUp/Right and VolumeDown/Left, or to VolumeUp and VolumeDown ?

You are only talking about the video screen, right ? Can you enable the Global Volume OSD setting and try it on the main menu ?


Dirk

[geogecko]

Thanks Dirk. Looking forward to using the new features...

[dflachbart]

Hi Mike,


I have a quick question. Does the new IMDB lookup work with java 1.4?

Sure, I don't want to force anyone to upgrade ... :)



Did you notice that little note about 'RIGHT key' functionality nestled in there? That's a really good idea! I still have the habit of pressing the right key to select a show from my TiVo days. :blush: Just a thought.

Well, sigh... There used to be one or two other screens in SageMC where RIGHT would select, and I got complaints that the SageMC navigation behavior was not consistent (which was somehow a legitimate point). So I'm not quite sure about this, it would probably require to change list selection globally in SageMC ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Thank you thank you thank you!!!! No more manual genre editting with the webserver plugin needed now!!! :jump: :jump: :clap: :goodjob:
:)

But note that this will only help with the icon selection, it will not merge shows for e.g. Science Fiction and Sci-Fi into a single category. SageMC uses the Sage database core for category grouping, and the aliases are only applied after the fact ...


Dirk

[JDizzy]

You know, I could have sworn that at one time, I ran the IMDB lookup manually for all my videos, downloaded all the cover art and descriptions for all my videos, and saved them...it looked real pretty! Then they disippeared...

Edit:
Sheesh...I swear...sometimes I can be sooo dumb.... my system crashed last night when playing wirh dirmon and in the process disconnected my external drives (where the cover art is stored)....so guess what.... reinitialized the drives and voila...life is good again...

Anyways, I am running the webradio and movietimes plugins and if I install the new 6.11 I lose those 2 plugins... how would I go about getting them back? By just installing them again or? (and would I lose my configuration files to those plugins??)

Lastly, seeing how the newer versions of MC only accept .xml files... how do I go about reinstalling the movietimes when it is only a stvi file? (To originally get it working I downloaded an MC uploaded by Kricker.... why does life treat me so??

JD

[MeInMaui]

Well, sigh... There used to be one or two other screens in SageMC where RIGHT would select, and I got complaints that the SageMC navigation behavior was not consistent (which was somehow a legitimate point). So I'm not quite sure about this, it would probably require to change list selection globally in SageMC ...

Dirk

Umm....That sounds painful. :nono: Don't worry about it then unless you are in depserate need of features for a future release. ;)

Aloha,
Mike

[dflachbart]

You know, I could have sworn that at one time, I ran the IMDB lookup manually for all my videos, downloaded all the cover art and descriptions for all my videos, and saved them...it looked real pretty!

But now (after 6.10a) the description is still there but all the cover art is gone.

Did you at any point run DVD profiler update, or changed the titles ? There was an old bug in SageMC which deleted the IMDB info, but this has been fixed in 6.10 ...


If I manually run the IMDB again for a video, I get the cover art again, I then save it and as soon as the screen clears....it is gone again??

That's strange, this should definetly work. I just tried it here again without problems. You are talking about the Video Library (My Videos), right ?


Dirk

[JDizzy]

Did you at any point run DVD profiler update, or changed the titles ? There was an old bug in SageMC which deleted the IMDB info, but this has been fixed in 6.10 ...


That's strange, this should definetly work. I just tried it here again without problems. You are talking about the Video Library (My Videos), right ?


Dirk

See above edited post...
Argghhh -JD:bang:

[Kirby]

:)

But note that this will only help with the icon selection, it will not merge shows for e.g. Science Fiction and Sci-Fi into a single category. SageMC uses the Sage database core for category grouping, and the aliases are only applied after the fact ...


Dirk

Ohhh, well at least its a step in the right direction, and eases the load on Mike and his twins :) So I guess I will still need to edit the database with the webserver then. Unless of course you want another feature request (if its possible) to allow genre/category selection/modification from inside MC. :D I know, just use the webserver... :)

[MeInMaui]

Lastly, seeing how the newer versions of MC only accept .xml files... how do I go about reinstalling the movietimes when it is only a stvi file? (To originally get it working I downloaded an MC uploaded by Kricker.... why does life treat me so??

JD

As long as the plugin is compatible with SageMC, just change the .stvi extension to .xml and import as usual.

Aloha,
Mike

Edit: or you can just follow the _correct_ advice from Dirk below. :rolleyes:

[dflachbart]

Edit:
Sheesh...I swear...sometimes I can be sooo dumb.... my system crashed last night when playing wirh dirmon and in the process disconnected my external drives (where the cover art is stored)....so guess what.... reinitialized the drives and voila...life is good again...

:D :rofl:


Anyways, I am running the webradio and movietimes plugins and if I install the new 6.11 I lose those 2 plugins... how would I go about getting them back? By just installing them again or? (and would I lose my configuration files to those plugins??)

Lastly, seeing how the newer versions of MC only accept .xml files... how do I go about reinstalling the movietimes when it is only a stvi file? (To originally get it working I downloaded an MC uploaded by Kricker.... why does life treat me so??

JD
Both plugins are available as SageMC versions:

Morgan111's port of the Web Radio plugin (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18934) (own thread) and the MovieTimes plugin (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?p=163132&postcount=228) (zip attached to post)

I think you can simply re-import the *.xml files and keep the settings...


Dirk

[JDizzy]

:D :rofl:


Both plugins are available as SageMC versions:

Morgan111's port of the Web Radio plugin (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18934) (own thread) and the MovieTimes plugin (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?p=163132&postcount=228) (zip attached to post)

I think you can simply re-import the *.xml files and keep the settings...


Dirk

Gracias....life has returned to normal running 6.11!

JD

[snoopy]

I have limited remote control buttons. Ideally I have would have four fwd/back buttons in addition to left/right buttons so that I could use one for com skip and one for smaller increments. Since I only have 2, there are limited options.

I used to be able to remote into my Sage box and use the mouse on my keyboard to skip forward a longer distance for a long show. The mouse no longer has any effect. Is that something that was removed?

[dflachbart]

I used to be able to remote into my Sage box and use the mouse on my keyboard to skip forward a longer distance for a long show. The mouse no longer has any effect. Is that something that was removed?

I'm not aware that I removed any mouse listener's in this release, but I'll double-check ...

Dirk