STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[Jesse]

Hi,

Thanks for the help guys. I will just backup the whole sage folder and install on top of what is there.

Hopefully get it done tonight if I can get the boys in bed on time.:)

Jesse

[geogecko]

Make sure and accept all file overwrites when extracting the zip file. This will ensure you get the latest version of all files.

[bobrap]

Must be doing something wrong, but, when I try to set the directory for DVDProfiler collection, there is no option to "select current" for the dir. Any thoughts?

[MeInMaui]

Dirk,

I'm trying to convert from a Medio(HDeeTV theme)/Sage set-up to using SageMC exclusively. I miss having the current temp and weather condition in the corner of the home page. Is it possible to add this to SageMC? (Of course, I may be the only one who would want this!! :blush: )

Thanks.

I added this to the main menu for something I was working on a few months back. I'll dig it up and send it to flachbar to see if there is anything he can do with it. Hopefully I'll have a chance tonight.

Mike

[JUC]

Must be doing something wrong, but, when I try to set the directory for DVDProfiler collection, there is no option to "select current" for the dir. Any thoughts?


yup--same here. You can just go in and add the line manually to the properties file.

[scm]

I added this to the main menu for something I was working on a few months back. I'll dig it up and send it to flachbar to see if there is anything he can do with it. Hopefully I'll have a chance tonight.

Mike

Thanks Mike, that is great!

Maybe lower right hand corner?

I agree with you--especially since I think this is about the only availabe corner left!! :) I think is could be very subtle, almost transparent so that you can read it when looking for it, but it isn't distracting.

[MeInMaui]

A few questions that I cant seem to find a way to fix... In example1.PNG, my first question is, can we get bigger down and up arrows (lower left)? Or isnt there enough room? Something larger than 16x16 would be a big help for those 1920x1080 desktops! :) Maybe something on the order of the playlist_up and down images which I think are about 36x36?

Kirby,

See if these work for you.
(They are 30x30, but I can make them up to 60x60 if these are still too small.)

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

Thanks Mike, that is great!



I agree with you--especially since I think this is about the only availabe corner left!! :) I think is could be very subtle, almost transparent so that you can read it when looking for it, but it isn't distracting.

An option like the Diskbar would be cool, and yes, transparent rules.

So, you could have it enabled all the time, like the Diskbar, or disable it, and then when you hit the info button on the Main Menu, you see the Diskbar and weather status for a few seconds...

[Kirby]

Kirby,

See if these work for you.
(They are 30x30, but I can make them up to 60x60 if these are still too small.)

Aloha,
Mike

Size is great...but something is messed up using these. Maybe because I am using the iTV theme? Ohh I see the problem, the zip only has the no-focus icons...focus icons are still tiny!

Sooooooooo, are we getting Glassy Arrows now? :D

[scm]

. . .when you hit the info button on the Main Menu, you see the Diskbar and weather status for a few seconds...

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[MeInMaui]

Size is great...but something is messed up using these. Maybe because I am using the iTV theme? Ohh I see the problem, the zip only has the no-focus icons...focus icons are still tiny!

Sooooooooo, are we getting Glassy Arrows now? :D

Oops, sorry. It was late last night when I did those. I'll have a look at the focus icons as soon as I get the chance.

As far as glassy arrows go, I can certainly provide alternate colors for the ones I just posted (plus the focus icons when done), but I'm not sure what else I could do with them besides add a little transparency. I'm all ears if you have any suggestions.

Mike

[kricker]

Where is the itv theme?

[MeInMaui]

Where is the itv theme?

It's under Downloads > STVi Imports.

[kricker]

Thanks, I've been away quite a bit lately and have lost track of things.

[Kirby]

Oops, sorry. It was late last night when I did those. I'll have a look at the focus icons as soon as I get the chance.

As far as glassy arrows go, I can certainly provide alternate colors for the ones I just posted (plus the focus icons when done), but I'm not sure what else I could do with them besides add a little transparency. I'm all ears if you have any suggestions.

Mike

No problem, I was just teasing about the glassy arrows. They arent big enough on the screen to worry about IMO. What I really want (besides the larger focus icons when you have time) are a few things in iTV (which I will post in that thread).

[Muchacho]

Does anyone else have problems with back to back recordings? For some reason I get a conflict on every back to back recording that I schedule, unless there is another free tuner. I have the padding set to 5 min on either side, and I have the issue regardless of whether standard conflict mng is enabled on not. I have the issue with both v5 and the v6beta.

Any ideas?

[geogecko]

Does anyone else have problems with back to back recordings? For some reason I get a conflict on every back to back recording that I schedule, unless there is another free tuner. I have the padding set to 5 min on either side, and I have the issue regardless of whether standard conflict mng is enabled on not. I have the issue with both v5 and the v6beta.

Any ideas?

Is it back-to-back on the SAME channel?

Sage will not remove padding from back-to-back recordings on different channels, only on the same channel, so you will get conflicts if this is what is happening.

I have to double check sometimes, but I always find that it's between channels...

[MeInMaui]

Does anyone else have problems with back to back recordings? For some reason I get a conflict on every back to back recording that I schedule, unless there is another free tuner. I have the padding set to 5 min on either side, and I have the issue regardless of whether standard conflict mng is enabled on not. I have the issue with both v5 and the v6beta.

Any ideas?

If they are on the same channel, try 'remove padding on back to back favorites'. It's under detailed setup, but I forget exactly where. When this is enabled the padding will be removed if you have two favorites scheduled to be recorded back to back on the same channel.

Mike

[geogecko]

If they are on the same channel, try 'remove padding on back to back favorites'. It's under detailed setup, but I forget exactly where. When this is enabled the padding will be removed if you have two favorites scheduled to be recorded back to back on the same channel.

Mike

Oh, yeah, that too! :D

[MeInMaui]

Size is great...but something is messed up using these. Maybe because I am using the iTV theme? Ohh I see the problem, the zip only has the no-focus icons...focus icons are still tiny!

Sooooooooo, are we getting Glassy Arrows now? :D

Kirby,

Check these ones out. I made up a set for BlueTwo and an alternate set for iTV. There is a shortened selection bar for you too. :)

Mike

P.S. Morgan, feel free to include any of these in the iTV theme if you like.

[JUC]

Just wondering if sagemc supports v6 DVD playback accross the MVP? Enabling you to use all the menus and everything else?
thanks,
Juc

[JDizzy]

Just wondering if anyone is working on the music area?

I would really like to see the music area looking like the video area.
I mean you could be in folder view and have the album art displayed, click on it and get a listing of songs on the CD along with another image, some bio on the band.. etc etc..
It seems like the video area and with a some modification could be modified to handle music rather than video files and possibly no to hard to get it dialed in...

I am in the process of adding tags to all my FLAC files and would like to make use of them... and also how to use the album art I am accumulating...

JD

[evilpenguin]

There are actually two music menu's in SageMC, and it sounds like the 2nd one is the one you're looking for. Right click in the main menu and enable "My Music files" and give that a shot.

[JUC]

Ya-i've been using the My Music Files since v6 because the tagging messed up alot of my stuff. Hopefully the new code will make it into this version sometime along the way.
JUC

[mryan1]

I'm not sure if this is the right place for this post so if it's not just let me know.

But my problem is, SageMC i just started using Showanalyzer for the first time to skip the commericals, but MC does not seem to be reading the txt files. It seems like SA is working fine it produces the txt files and I also used it to make .vprj files and tested it with videoredo and it worked great. I searched around looking to see if there was some sort of settings I need to set but I could not find any posted in the forums.

Thanks for any help.

[JDizzy]

There are actually two music menu's in SageMC, and it sounds like the 2nd one is the one you're looking for. Right click in the main menu and enable "My Music files" and give that a shot.

OK - I'll check that out when I get home....

BTW - Where do you put the album art (jpegs) or where do you specify where its at?

And, how do you name them as there are 10 files differently named for each album? This probably has something to do with how the files are named..

Something like: Artist, Album, Song....
for example: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick - Songname

Or.... inquiring minds want to know....
JD

[dflachbart]

Something like: Artist, Album, Song....
for example: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick - Songname


JD, put a 'folder.jpg' into 'Thick As A Brick' ...


Dirk

[evilpenguin]

I'm not sure if this is the right place for this post so if it's not just let me know.

But my problem is, SageMC i just started using Showanalyzer for the first time to skip the commericals, but MC does not seem to be reading the txt files. It seems like SA is working fine it produces the txt files and I also used it to make .vprj files and tested it with videoredo and it worked great. I searched around looking to see if there was some sort of settings I need to set but I could not find any posted in the forums.

Thanks for any help.
Are you using a client that's on a different computer than the server? If so then you need to set up your client so that it can reach the comskip files using the same path as the server. Otherwise when the client goes to get the comskip file it won't exist.

i.e. if you recording drive is H:\SageRecordings\ on the server then you'd have to map the servers H: to the clients H:.

[mdnttoker]

Are you using a client that's on a different computer than the server? If so then you need to set up your client so that it can reach the comskip files using the same path as the server. Otherwise when the client goes to get the comskip file it won't exist.

i.e. if you recording drive is H:\SageRecordings\ on the server then you'd have to map the servers H: to the clients H:.

Or just use UNC pathnames in server and client. i.e.:
\\SageServer\Recordings\

[JDizzy]

JD, put a 'folder.jpg' into 'Thick As A Brick' ...


Dirk

So pretty much any jpeg I put in this folder will show as albumart for anything in the folder...correct?

(also, I didn't have my files in individual album folders but will do that if needed)

Thanks
JD

[mryan1]

Are you using a client that's on a different computer than the server? If so then you need to set up your client so that it can reach the comskip files using the same path as the server. Otherwise when the client goes to get the comskip file it won't exist.

i.e. if you recording drive is H:\SageRecordings\ on the server then you'd have to map the servers H: to the clients H:.

No, i'm not using a client and thanks for the help.

Not sure what the problem was but I just uninstalled and reinstalled and now it's working like a champ.

Thanks

[dflachbart]

So pretty much any jpeg I put in this folder will show as albumart for anything in the folder...correct?


Yep, that should be correct

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Flachbar - not sure if you saw this?

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20628

If you did and it's something specific to my rig you can't help with, apologies.
Hi Mahoney,

yeah I saw it, but I wouldn't know what to tell you ... I don't use standby mode on my box, and haven't heard about this problem before. Did you try to use the default STV for a while and see if it happens there also ? And which Java runtime are you using ?

Dirk

[Muchacho]

Is it back-to-back on the SAME channel?

Sage will not remove padding from back-to-back recordings on different channels, only on the same channel, so you will get conflicts if this is what is happening.

I have to double check sometimes, but I always find that it's between channels...

Yea- I have the problem on the same channel back to back recordings.

Thanks for the help, Mike

[JDizzy]

Yep, that should be correct

Dirk

Mmmm...

OK, I have my music directories as:

j:\flac\stones greatest hits
j:\flac\blah blah blah
j:\flac\yada yada yada

I put the coverart for each directory into each directory and renamed the coverart to 'folder.jpg'

When in MC using the My Music menus I just get a graphic saying No Cover Image.....

Where did I go wrong??
JD

[mdnttoker]

Ever since I upgraded to SageMC 6.13a, I've had a problem with my MVP powering-up from a warm power-down to a black / blank screen.

Once powered-on to the black / blank screen, the MVP locks up and I have to power-cycle it.

This never happens on a full boot, and only seems to have started since I upgraded to 6.13a. It happens about 10% of the time upon powering on the MVP from a previous soft power-off.

Has anybody else experienced such a problem using 6.13a?
I've also downgraded to Java 1.4, which has fixed my stuttering problems, so that may be a cause too...

-Dan

[dflachbart]

Mmmm...

OK, I have my music directories as:

j:\flac\stones greatest hits
j:\flac\blah blah blah
j:\flac\yada yada yada

I put the coverart for each directory into each directory and renamed the coverart to 'folder.jpg'

When in MC using the My Music menus I just get a graphic saying No Cover Image.....

Where did I go wrong??
JD
JD, did you rescan your music folders ? Sage will only see and import the cover art if it present at the time of the import ...

Dirk

[JDizzy]

JD, did you rescan your music folders ? Sage will only see and import the cover art if it present at the time of the import ...

Dirk

Got it going....dunno...must be tired or something.......not me...the machine....err..umm

Also, I just loaded up the newest Sage Beta and added back all my plugins but I have a question about the MC16x9...

Do I need to reinstall from scratch (using the installer) and work my way back up to MC6.13a, or can I just load in the sageMCbeta60 (or whatever it was called) and go from there without messing with all the prior stuff......

(After upgrading I reverted back to first Sage beta release as things started getting sketchy...when I would choose a song from My Music it would display a yellow bar at top of screen without OSD with options to Play etc.... but when pressing enter it would start playing song.... yikes...

I'll save that install for a rainy day
JD

[clmolnar]

I have been trying to troubleshoot 2 different issues:

1. I can't get the diskbar to appear. I am using 6.0 beta, and SageMC 6.13a beta version. I have the newest sagemc.jar in the JAR directory. Java version 1.4. I have tried enabling the diskbar as well as disabling it, and hitting the option button on the main screen -- no diskbar either way.

2. The Custom1, Custom2, and Custom3 menu items configured via the SageMC 16x9 options page will not take any values in their "Menu Screen" box. I am trying to get the Google Video screen to work with any of the Custom buttons. For instance, I can make the "Custom1 Menu Name" Google Videos, however, after scrolling though all the options in the "Custom1 Menu Screen" list and choosing one, nothing happens. I have tried many different internal menu screens, and none of them show up after being selected, and the button created on my main page does nothing.

Any ideas on what my issue is?

Thanks,
Carl

[dflachbart]

Do I need to reinstall from scratch (using the installer) and work my way back up to MC6.13a, or can I just load in the sageMCbeta60 (or whatever it was called) and go from there without messing with all the prior stuff......

As long as all the files from the initial install are still there, it is totally sufficient to just load the newest STV and then import all the customizations (you might want to have a look at my importer plugin to simplify this process)

Dirk

[dflachbart]

I have been trying to troubleshoot 2 different issues:

1. I can't get the diskbar to appear. I am using 6.0 beta, and SageMC 6.13a beta version. I have the newest sagemc.jar in the JAR directory. Java version 1.4. I have tried enabling the diskbar as well as disabling it, and hitting the option button on the main screen -- no diskbar either way.

2. The Custom1, Custom2, and Custom3 menu items configured via the SageMC 16x9 options page will not take any values in their "Menu Screen" box. I am trying to get the Google Video screen to work with any of the Custom buttons. For instance, I can make the "Custom1 Menu Name" Google Videos, however, after scrolling though all the options in the "Custom1 Menu Screen" list and choosing one, nothing happens. I have tried many different internal menu screens, and none of them show up after being selected, and the button created on my main page does nothing.

Any ideas on what my issue is?

Thanks,
Carl
Carl,

can you please generate a debug log file (instructions in first post of this thread) and attach it here ?

Dirk

[clmolnar]

Heres the log file, and what I did in order:

1. Start SageTV. Diskbar currently disabled
2. At main menu, hit options button a couple times. No diskbar appears.
3. Go to SageMC options.
4. Try to set "Custom3 Menu Screen" to "Google Video Menu". Selection didn't take.
5. Enable diskbar.
6. Go back to main menu. No diskbar.
7. Exit SageTV.

Thanks for looking into it Dirk.

[dflachbart]

Heres the log file, and what I did in order:

1. Start SageTV. Diskbar currently disabled
2. At main menu, hit options button a couple times. No diskbar appears.
3. Go to SageMC options.
4. Try to set "Custom3 Menu Screen" to "Google Video Menu". Selection didn't take.
5. Enable diskbar.
6. Go back to main menu. No diskbar.
7. Exit SageTV.

Thanks for looking into it Dirk.
Hi Carl,

it can't find the java classes for the dynamic menus... Do you have a net/sf/sageplugins/sagemenu folder in your SageTV directory ? If not, please extract it from the SageMC base install, or run Jason's installer again (SageTV restart required afterwards), and let me know how it works out...


Dirk

[snoopy]

Is there a process for getting Google Videos. I don't see any option for it either.

[MeInMaui]

Is there a process for getting Google Videos. I don't see any option for it either.

Enable one of the custom menus (using the options menu on the main menu screen) and link the google videos screen to it (in the SageMC Options menu under Detailed Setup > Advanced). Otherwise you can enable 'My Menu' and add it under that. Hope this helps.

Aloha,
Mike

[JUC]

feature request: Is there any way to differentiate between DVD's i actually have stored on my server versus my offline collection? Maybe a dot or icon on the ones that are local? That would be great.
Thanks
Juc

[Kirby]

And while we are on the feature request thought... I've been ripping my DVD library, and have a lot of shows that I captured in HD. Is there an easy way to separate them? Or differentiate them, when the 2 titles are sitting next to each other? If there was a way that I could assign the DVD icon or HD icon to a show (much like we assign genre's) that would be great, but I am guessing that this isnt really an easy feature...

[geogecko]

feature request: Is there any way to differentiate between DVD's i actually have stored on my server versus my offline collection? Maybe a dot or icon on the ones that are local? That would be great.
Thanks
Juc

Like this?

http://www.thebentzhome.com/pics/sageforum/offline_1.jpg

If so, it's right here...

http://www.thebentzhome.com/pics/sageforum/offline_2.jpg

[snoopy]

Enable one of the custom menus (using the options menu on the main menu screen) and link the google videos screen to it (in the SageMC Options menu under Detailed Setup > Advanced). Otherwise you can enable 'My Menu' and add it under that. Hope this helps.

Aloha,
MikeI don't have the internal screen "google videos" listed? I am using SageMC 6.13a.

[dflachbart]

I don't have the internal screen "google videos" listed? I am using SageMC 6.13a.
Did you update to Sage 6.0 beta, and do you use the SageMC_SageTV60beta.xml ? Google Video does not work for 5.x, since it is one of the new features in 6.0 ...

Dirk

[snoopy]

Did you update to Sage 6.0 beta, and do you use the SageMC_SageTV60beta.xml ? Google Video does not work for 5.x, since it is one of the new features in 6.0 ...

DirkYes, I have 6.13a of SageMC on top of SageTV 6 beta. The option isn't there for me.

[geogecko]

Yes, I have 6.13a of SageMC on top of SageTV 6 beta. The option isn't there for me.

ARE U USING the SageMC BETA XML file? NOT only SageTV 6 Beta, but SageMC 6 Beta, or whatever it's called...

[dflachbart]

ARE U USING the SageMC BETA XML file? NOT only SageTV 6 Beta, but SageMC 6 Beta, or whatever it's called...
The filename is SageMC_169_SageTV60beta.xml

In Setup it will show

6.13a - SageTV60 Beta
as the SageMC version number


Dirk

[clmolnar]

Thanks for the help Dirk. Extracting MLBdude's last SageMC zip file, and then yours on top of it did the trick for the Google page.

However it looks like the diskbar was never really an issue, as it seems that it only appears when the video menu style is set to window. Is it possible that you can make it appear when the video menu style is set to background as well?

[sennbj]

I am a recent SageMC convert and just love all the work that has gone into this! I did run across something weird and a forum search did not turn up anything.

I had the opportunity to watch a DVD from the import (My Videos) option and things went just fine until I hit play to bring up the status bar so I could check how much time was left in the movie. After I did the movie would stutter just a bit every few seconds, nothing really bad but a frame or two glitch, I gave it a couple minutes but it never stopped.

I quit the movie, started it back up but still the same thing. I switched back to the default stv/xml and all was good.

I searched around and turned off OSD animations but it did not help.

Has anyone else experienced a problem with DVD (from HD) playback using SageMC but not in the default STV?

[JUC]

Like this?

http://www.thebentzhome.com/pics/sageforum/offline_1.jpg

If so, it's right here...


Ah--thanks!. I should have figured everyone was a step ahead of me.
Juc

[heffe2001]

With the latest version (6.13a on Sage 6.0.12), when I go into the My Videos section, and choose the option to play a file (not one of the library selections), the Selection box that comes up doesn't work correctly with the remote. If you hit the down arrow, the selection bar doesn't move correctly. If you say center the bar on one directory, you may actually open a directory above or below (depending on which way you move). Is there a way to get the old selector box back?

[rabbitslayer]

Is there any place that walks thru some of these adjustments for the beta features?
I am kinda a noob when it comes to updating to get all this cool stuff!

[jrgarrett]

I have just changed to a new computer and updated to the version 6 beta with SageMC 6.13a STV and had a couple of questions:

When I go to SageMC Options/Icons & Images the screen has different options than that shown in post #2088 above. My setup is showing 6.13a. Anyone have any idea what I have done wrong?

I have noted that when using SageMC my computer no longer goes into standby (it works fine with the default STV) Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jim

[dflachbart]

I have just changed to a new computer and updated to the version 6 beta with SageMC 6.13a STV and had a couple of questions:

When I go to SageMC Options/Icons & Images the screen has different options than that shown in post #2088 above. My setup is showing 6.13a. Anyone have any idea what I have done wrong?

Are you sure you scrolled down on the options page ? Geogeckos image shows the 'lower' half of the Icon&Images settings ...


I have noted that when using SageMC my computer no longer goes into standby (it works fine with the default STV) Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jim
Do you have automatic .my file generation enabled ? This will create a new background thread which will periodically scan the recording directories. But that's about the only possibility I can think of ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Is there any place that walks thru some of these adjustments for the beta features?
I am kinda a noob when it comes to updating to get all this cool stuff!

Well, other than the Google Videos there are no new v6.0 features in SageMC yet ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

With the latest version (6.13a on Sage 6.0.12), when I go into the My Videos section, and choose the option to play a file (not one of the library selections), the Selection box that comes up doesn't work correctly with the remote. If you hit the down arrow, the selection bar doesn't move correctly. If you say center the bar on one directory, you may actually open a directory above or below (depending on which way you move). Is there a way to get the old selector box back?

Hmm, never heard this before, and it works fine for me ... Is this just a problem with the remote, or does the same also happen with the cursor keys on the keyboard ? Which Sage commands do you have mapped to your remote control keypad ?

Dirk

[dflachbart]

I am a recent SageMC convert and just love all the work that has gone into this! I did run across something weird and a forum search did not turn up anything.

I had the opportunity to watch a DVD from the import (My Videos) option and things went just fine until I hit play to bring up the status bar so I could check how much time was left in the movie. After I did the movie would stutter just a bit every few seconds, nothing really bad but a frame or two glitch, I gave it a couple minutes but it never stopped.

I quit the movie, started it back up but still the same thing. I switched back to the default stv/xml and all was good.

I searched around and turned off OSD animations but it did not help.

Has anyone else experienced a problem with DVD (from HD) playback using SageMC but not in the default STV?
No, haven't seen this before. Does the same happen if you hit 'Info' instead of 'Play' ? I checked the code, and it resets the Playback rate to '1' on Play, but I couldn't see why this would introduce such side effects... If this happens again, try to cycle through the playback speed and see if it makes a difference ...

Dirk

[geogecko]

new v6.0 features in SageMC yet ...

Dirk

:corn: :coffee:

[dflachbart]

:corn: :coffee:
Of course I'll take the popcorn and the coffee :D, but 6.2.0 will mainly be a maintenance release containing bugfixes, and won't really include any new 6.0 stuff either ...

Dirk

[jrgarrett]

Are you sure you scrolled down on the options page ? Geogeckos image shows the 'lower' half of the Icon&Images settings ...

That was the problem...sorry..


Do you have automatic .my file generation enabled ? This will create a new background thread which will periodically scan the recording directories. But that's about the only possibility I can think of ...


I checked and .my file generation was disabled. How about the weather maps? Are these downloaded when the screen is accessed or is this updated automatically in the background? Also I am using Java 1.4.2 - could this make a difference? Should I be using something newer?

[geogecko]

Of course I'll take the popcorn and the coffee :D, but 6.2.0 will mainly be a maintenance release containing bugfixes, and won't really include any new 6.0 stuff either ...

Dirk

:(

LOL, kidding of course. I know you're working hard, in the background. :D

With the rumors of these new touchscreen iPods coming out, supporting 480p video, I may have to break down and get one...so getting this SageTV built-in conversion working would be awesome...of course, we'll need a way to limit what time these conversions take place, if it's anything like AutoGK is when it's running!

So, here's another bucket... :corn:

[evilpenguin]

:(

LOL, kidding of course. I know you're working hard, in the background. :D

With the rumors of these new touchscreen iPods coming out, supporting 480p video, I may have to break down and get one...so getting this SageTV built-in conversion working would be awesome...of course, we'll need a way to limit what time these conversions take place, if it's anything like AutoGK is when it's running!

So, here's another bucket... :corn:
Sage kicks off it's compressions with below normal priority, so you should be good as far as processor usage goes. You're biggest enemy is going to be HD bandwidth. Last night I was recording 2 SD shows, comskipping 2 other SD shows, and compressing another and man was my client lagging :(

[geogecko]

LOL, wow. I could see where that would be a problem.

I've had 2 HD shows recording, one viewing, 2 SD shows recording, and all 4 being comskipped at the same time. Things still seemed to work okay, since I had SA set to throttle back...but it still is pegged at 100% (SA gives in, if someone else needs more CPU cycles). Adding compression to that, would probably kill it.

Sounds like I need to get a dual core. Are the compressions kicked off as threads, or processes? That would be nice.

[dflachbart]

That was the problem...sorry..

No problem ... :)



I checked and .my file generation was disabled. How about the weather maps? Are these downloaded when the screen is accessed or is this updated automatically in the background? Also I am using Java 1.4.2 - could this make a difference? Should I be using something newer?
No, the weather is only updated on access.
Java 1.4.2 should also be fine. Not sure what else to try, I can't really test it myself because my PC refuses to go into Standby in general for whatever reason... Anyone else having the same issue ?

Dirk

[snoopy]

Recorded TV selections
Archived reads "Recorded TV (Archive)" - Should read "Recorded TV (Archived)" with a d on the end.
Unwatched reads "Recorded TV (Unwatched without archives) - Reads correctly but still shows archives.

[geogecko]

Dirk.

Do you know what is used to determine the diskbar colors? I jacked mine up by installing another theme, and no matter what theme I install, or what STV I try, the diskbar is stuck on this weird white oval looking background.

Umm...never mind, just found out where they were. Need to add those to my other theme packs.

[sennbj]

No, haven't seen this before. Does the same happen if you hit 'Info' instead of 'Play' ? I checked the code, and it resets the Playback rate to '1' on Play, but I couldn't see why this would introduce such side effects... If this happens again, try to cycle through the playback speed and see if it makes a difference ...

Dirk

Well, I hit info instead of play and it did the same thing, a slight stutter. I tried the cycle through speeds idea and still the same. It seems that after bringing up an OSD inside SageMC it will set off this little quirk until I stop the DVD and restart. I tried it on an actual DVD and it does the same thing. HD tv works great and does not display this type of behavior, just DVD's.

When I set it back to SageTV3 the problem goes away, but I lose all the cool stuff that SageMC has to offer.

I’m kinda out of ideas? I tried different render settings, OSD settings and so on but nothing made a difference.

[dflachbart]

I’m kinda out of ideas? I tried different render settings, OSD settings and so on but nothing made a difference.
Yeah, I am too ...
You could generate debug logs (instructions in the first post of this thread) and let me have a look at them, although I doubt that this will reveal anything helpful

Dirk

[cenwesi]

Ok, i want to give thanks the the auto of SageMC... I seem to recall the first time i used it back when i first started it was missing ALOT of functions and just didn't like it. Tested it last night and i have to say, boy have SageMC v6.13a grown. I have two (2) questions though

1) How do i make my movie dirs show up like this
http://download.sage.tv/~mlbdude/SageMC_169/video_category_view.JPG
I have tried putting the *.jpg/png into the actual folders and into the ./GenreIcon dir and no go. I have even moved in and out the dirs and rescanned and still no go. The movies display their icons just fine, but at the root level like above i can not get the GENRE pictures to show.
Here is how mine looks
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6919/sa6mn8.jpg

2) When watching recorded show/tv/movies, how do i make these transparent?
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3695/sa5oh6.jpg

Thats all for now.

[bobrap]

I'm using the Razor theme, and Mike's selection bars...

Trying to do the same but can't seem to get anything to show up. Can you offer a bit of help to this idiot:D

[geogecko]

Trying to do the same but can't seem to get anything to show up. Can you offer a bit of help to this idiot:D

What are you trying to do? Sorry, I can't remember what that comment was in relation too, and I can't find it by searching for some reason. :D

[bobrap]

Never mind, Jason. Like I said, the "idiot" figured it out....RTFM:o :blush:
Thanks anyway.

[geogecko]

Never mind, Jason. Like I said, the "idiot" figured it out....RTFM:o :blush:
Thanks anyway.

LOL, glad I could help...or not...

[sennbj]

Yeah, I am too ...
You could generate debug logs (instructions in the first post of this thread) and let me have a look at them, although I doubt that this will reveal anything helpful

Dirk

Well, I have not turned on debug yet, but I did notice something that may be a clue. When I use the SageTV3 STV and bring up an OSD while playing a DVD the dvd will stutter a bit while the OSD is on top just like it does inside SageMC, but then when the OSD goes away so does the stutter.

[heffe2001]

Hmm, never heard this before, and it works fine for me ... Is this just a problem with the remote, or does the same also happen with the cursor keys on the keyboard ? Which Sage commands do you have mapped to your remote control keypad ?

Dirk

I'll try to get some screenshots tonight, didn't have time last night. I'm currently using a MCE2005 remote with the arrow keys mapped from there to the arrows in Sage via girder. Works great with v6.12, but the .13a the browse screen looks a little different, and the arrow keys on the remote don't function correctly. I know mouse input works ok, but haven't tested keyboard input, which I'll try to take care of tonight.

The only other thing I can think of is, I'm using one of the Java 6 nightlies, but I installed that a couple weeks before this problem started.

At any rate, you can definitely tell a difference between the old browse box on the older version, and the one on the 6.13a version...

*EDIT* I attached pics of each selector. The old one is actually from around 6.10 or so, don't have a newer version on that machine. It was the same selector until I installed the 6.0.11 & 6.13a combo. I'll try the 6.13a non-6.0 specific and see if it's the same old, or new version.

*EDIT 2* I tested it with the regular 6.13a (non 6.0), and had the same effect as the one for 6.0. It's almost like it's using the same selector that Sage uses when you try to set up a video import directory, but the keys don't move correctly (and I believe it's doing the same thing with the arrow keys, but mouse navigation works fine). It also does the same thing with the Retro STV based off of this version. If I go back to any of the older versions of the STV, the selector box works fine there. Might try to go in and see if it's linked to a different selector, and if so fix it in Studio.

**EDIT 3** Looks like in the older version, a file selector called "CenteredFileBrowser", where the 6.13a is using "RightSideFileBrowser". Takes too long to edit via VNC from work, so I'll see if I can change it when I get home. Never tried to mess with stuff like that before, so anybody have an easy way to change between the 2?

[heffe2001]

**EDIT 3** Looks like in the older version, a file selector called "CenteredFileBrowser", where the 6.13a is using "RightSideFileBrowser". Takes too long to edit via VNC from work, so I'll see if I can change it when I get home. Never tried to mess with stuff like that before, so anybody have an easy way to change between the 2?

In poking around, it looks like the old STV used the file browser code from StorageDeviceAdded/"Code to handle Media File Browser" and the new STV uses the code from SageMC Options/Paths. Was this an intentional change, or a by-product of maybe a 6.0 conversion?

I'll have to check (again when I get home), if the add video path selector box works from options with the remote, but I'd rather switch back to the older way of handling the selector. Tried playing with it a bit at work, but didn't get very far :).

[MeInMaui]

Ok, i want to give thanks the the auto of SageMC... I seem to recall the first time i used it back when i first started it was missing ALOT of functions and just didn't like it. Tested it last night and i have to say, boy have SageMC v6.13a grown. I have two (2) questions though

1) How do i make my movie dirs show up like this
...
I have tried putting the *.jpg/png into the actual folders and into the ./GenreIcon dir and no go. I have even moved in and out the dirs and rescanned and still no go. The movies display their icons just fine, but at the root level like above i can not get the GENRE pictures to show.
Here is how mine looks
...

2) When watching recorded show/tv/movies, how do i make these transparent?
...
Thats all for now.

1.) The genre icons should be in .../SageTV/STVs/SageTV3/SageMCE/GenreIcons/
If you are just using the icons that came with SageMC, then make sure that the option for fullsize genre icons is turned off in Settings > Detailed Setup > Advanced > SageMC Options. The default install does not come with any of the fullsize icons, so if selected, I think only the folders will show up.

2.) The OSD will only be transparent when using VMR9 as your video renderer.

Hope this helps.

Aloha,
Mike

Edit: Nevermind. I guess this topic has been picked up in a new thread.

[heffe2001]

Changing the link from RightSide to CenteredFileBrowser, brings up the old selector box, but you can't select any of the drives to drill down to the file your looking for. I have a good feeling that this change will be above my meager STV skills :).

[JUC]

Now that I have offline video icons enabled I notice that all my videos (offline or online) are showing the icon. Any idea what might be causing this?
Thanks,
Juc

[dflachbart]

I'll have to check (again when I get home), if the add video path selector box works from options with the remote, but I'd rather switch back to the older way of handling the selector. Tried playing with it a bit at work, but didn't get very far :).
I can reproduce it here now too.
I'll try to get this into the next version which will be released soon ...

Dirk

[fas77]

I'm running 6.13a.
I have 8 items on the main menu.
The top item overlaps with my recording icon a little bit.
How can I shift the menu down a bit?

[dflachbart]

I uploaded version 6.2.0 which can be downloaded here (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=139). It is mainly a maintenance release which contains bugfixes and a few new features, but no major SagetTV6.0 beta functionality. Beginning with this release new versions of SageMC will only work with SageTV 6.0. The latest version for SageTV 5.x (6.13a) will remain available in the download section, I created a new download package for this new 6.0 branch.

Bugfixes:

- video preview on 10-day forecast
- compatibility with auto-aspect plugin
- view by artist includes composer tag
- empty watched history
- missing auto-comskip for library files
- delete show did not delete
- OSD in DVD took up whole screen
- watched bars for recent recordings did not use property setting
- file selector box issue
- numeric input in non-NTE mode not working
- currently airing shows not shown in "Other Airings"

Added functionality:

- added options dialog for "Sort By Artist' to include Artist, Album Artist, and Composer
- added "Back to Google" button in OSD
- delete skips Program Info menu on back
- auto-generation of genre icons searches now all episodes for an existing icon
- Google Search Dialog now using SageMC theme
- added all/upcoming filter for search results
- added options menu for rotating pictures (new 6.0 functionality)
- delete pictures
- added two more custom main menus
- added default STV delete dialog (configurable in SageMC settings)
- added configuration for wrapped Date/Time display
- added weather bar in Main Menu (thanks to Mike !)
- ripped out old dynamic menus code and updated to nielm's latest 5.3 version

Installation:

- shut down Sage
- unzip *all* JAR files and SageMC_169.xml
- (important): delete the folder net\sf\sageplugins\sagemenu from your Sage directory, otherwise the new dynamic menus will not work
- restart Sage



http://s91885874.onlinehome.us/html/images/sagetv/620/clock.jpg

http://s91885874.onlinehome.us/html/images/sagetv/620/dm.jpg

http://s91885874.onlinehome.us/html/images/sagetv/620/weather.jpg



Enjoy,

Dirk

[evilpenguin]

Nice work, I love the little weather in the corner of the screen! :goodjob:

[technazz]

I like the Weather in the main screen as well. I finally upgraded to the beta.. so far so good.

ANy way we can change the font size on the Main Screen weather data? It seems a little small on my HD tv

Thanks

Technazz

[peternm22]

Hi Dirk,

Looks like both my requests made it into this release, thank you!

I haven't upgraded to version 6 yet (since I try to avoid beta versions), so I'll have to wait to take advantage of the new SageMC.

Thanks again.

-Peter

[horseflesh]

Any chance of a 13b to fix the .ts + .edl problem? :) Or have I missed a fix earlier in the thread?

I re-installed 13a tonight, and made darn sure I didn't have that errant .zip in the JAR directory... still no joy on commercial skipping: the status bar doesn't show the commercial markers when I am viewing a .ts recording. Older recordings that I made in .mpg work fine. (I only record OTA, on a Fusion5 card.)

BTW, I find recording in .ts more convenient. If I get a mangled datastream which produces a file that I can't ffw/rew, the free tool that fixes this condition only works on transport streams. Recording in .ts eliminates the conversion to .mpg step... and I need to do this once or twice a week.

[Muchacho]

Thanks.

The new ver fixed all the problems I had! Working great so far.

[Kirby]

Yesterday I tried to set a football game to end 30 minutes after its scheduled end. This was after the game and recording had already started. The method I used was to go into the advanced record button, set it to stop 30 minutes after, and clicked on save. However the recording stopped at the old scheduled time. does this just not work? Its not related to 6.2, because I had it in 6.13a as well. Maybe its a beta issue? Its not something I do a lot of, so I am not really sure when it stopped working (if it ever did).

[MeInMaui]

I like the Weather in the main screen as well. I finally upgraded to the beta.. so far so good.

ANy way we can change the font size on the Main Screen weather data? It seems a little small on my HD tv

Thanks

Technazz

I have some thoughts for improving the weather display. Has anyone ever seen the weather display in the HDeeTV theme for meedio? It looks like this:

HDeeTV Screen Shot (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=biblue9kg.jpg)

I'm going to play with the layout a bit and see what I can come up with. Once I have something that I like, I'll send it over to Dirk for his approval and inclusion. I'll probably post a screenshot before I send it over to get some opinions.

Aloha,
Mike

[ke6guj]

Thanks for the v6.2.0 update. Like the added functionality of the stacked time display, main-menu weather, and of course the added custom menus.

I did find one bug, If I am watching a recording, the TimeBar will show normally when FF or REW'ing. However, if I hit the Info button, I would get the top menu, but not the TimeBar. After that, the TimeBar will not appear during FF or REW. I can fix it by going to the Main Menu and then back out of it. Then the TimeBar will work until the next time I hit Info.


Also, one bit of functionality that would be nice to see is some way to see existing recordings of a series while in a show listing, but not in the recordings page. Sort of like in the default STV, if you go to future or past showings, there are folder links to current recordings and past or future recordings depending if you were in future or past recordings, if that makes sense. That way, if you are in the info page for a specific show, you don't have to navigate over to Recorded TV to see if you have that show already recorded.

[Kirby]

I have some thoughts for improving the weather display. Has anyone ever seen the weather display in the HDeeTV theme for meedio? It looks like this:

HDeeTV Screen Shot (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=biblue9kg.jpg)

I'm going to play with the layout a bit and see what I can come up with. Once I have something that I like, I'll send it over to Dirk for his approval and inclusion. I'll probably post a screenshot before I send it over to get some opinions.

Aloha,
Mike

Well if you make it like in that pic, I'll pass.

I would rather see a removal of some info, and make others bigger. For instance, right now mine says "Rain Shower" along with the rain image. Redundant. Just use the graphic. Then you could just use a numeric display for the temp and humidity "43 F / 88%" in a nice font maybe? That would make it bigger and easier to read, yet still retain the same info.

And then, if at all possible, if you are in a severe weather alert, is there a way to put a red outline around the area, or blinking, or something? Does that functionality exist? I realize the info in the window is not constantly updated, but it would be neat if it could be done!

[MeInMaui]

Well if you make it like in that pic, I'll pass.

I would rather see a removal of some info, and make others bigger. For instance, right now mine says "Rain Shower" along with the rain image. Redundant. Just use the graphic. Then you could just use a numeric display for the temp and humidity "43 F / 88%" in a nice font maybe? That would make it bigger and easier to read, yet still retain the same info.

And then, if at all possible, if you are in a severe weather alert, is there a way to put a red outline around the area, or blinking, or something? Does that functionality exist? I realize the info in the window is not constantly updated, but it would be neat if it could be done!

Good ideas, Kirby. I'll think abut your layout suggestion. Unfortunately I don't think severe weather alert info is available.

Mike

[bobrap]

Don't know if this is in the correct place, but since I use SageMC, I thought I'd ask. Should cover art for DVD Profiler data be generated automatically or do you have to import each movie? I have meta-data auto import set on. Thanks.

[dflachbart]

I did find one bug, If I am watching a recording, the TimeBar will show normally when e]FF or REW'ing. However, if I hit the Info button, I would get the top menu, but not the TimeBar. After that, the TimeBar will not appear during FF or REW. I can fix it by going to the Main Menu and then back out of it. Then the TimeBar will work until the next time I hit Info.

Good catch, don't know how I missed that one ...


Also, one bit of functionality that would be nice to see is some way to see existing recordings of a series while in a show listing, but not in the recordings page. Sort of like in the default STV, if you go to future or past showings, there are folder links to current recordings and past or future recordings depending if you were in future or past recordings, if that makes sense. That way, if you are in the info page for a specific show, you don't have to navigate over to Recorded TV to see if you have that show already recorded.
Yeah, I was already planning to add a filter to the 'Other Showings' page for "Future Airings / Past Airings / Recorded Airings". Would that cover what you want ?

Dirk

[ke6guj]

Yeah, I was already planning to add a filter to the 'Other Showings' page for "Future Airings / Past Airings / Recorded Airings". Would that cover what you want ?

Dirk

Yah, I think a filter option in the left menu pane would be fine. Out of the way, but accessable when needed. That is one of the minor things I still missed about the default STV.

While we are giving suggestions, in the Schedule (Show Premieres) menu, would it be possible to show if a listing there is set as a favorite? Currently, it only shows the Manual Recording icon, or the series_rec.png icon, but not the series.png icon. Since the series_rec icon will show, I can see if a show if a favorite only in the 3 days preceding the recording. Any shows later than 3 days in the future require me to actually look at the info for that show to see if it is a favorite.

[mdnttoker]

Just upgraded and noticed that my diskspace bar is now a bright white.

What image file is this being pulled from?

-Dan

[Kirby]

Just upgraded and noticed that my diskspace bar is now a bright white.

What image file is this being pulled from?

-Dan

I think you need to install diskbar images from the sagemc_default_graphics.zip file in the 6.2.0 download. There are 6 files total that make up the glassy diskbar.

[Wakecrash]

Is their a hot key to go to the "My TV" menu?

[dflachbart]

Is their a hot key to go to the "My TV" menu?
Yes, it's <Custom1>

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Any chance of a 13b to fix the .ts + .edl problem? :) Or have I missed a fix earlier in the thread?

I re-installed 13a tonight, and made darn sure I didn't have that errant .zip in the JAR directory... still no joy on commercial skipping: the status bar doesn't show the commercial markers when I am viewing a .ts recording. Older recordings that I made in .mpg work fine. (I only record OTA, on a Fusion5 card.)

As far as I know Comskip on both *.txt and *.edl is working for everyone, all prior issues were due to JAR / setup issues. Now it could be a TS specific problem (although there is no code in SageMC that does specifically assume the current file is a mpg file), but I can't debug it since I don't record in HD. You could try to generate a debug file (see first post in thread for instructions), and I'll have a look, maybe there is still a setup issue ...

Dirk

[tobyw01]

I am new to SgaeMC, I have been using SageTV default UI for some time now. I recently upgraded to SageTV 5.04 and want to use SageMC STV. I installed the Base STV then the 6.13 dev build. The UI works when I load the STV but when I checked for the SageMC options menu in Settings/Detail Setup/Advanced I couldn't find it. I have done several fresh installs of Sage TV and SageMC with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.

[dflachbart]

I am new to SgaeMC, I have been using SageTV default UI for some time now. I recently upgraded to SageTV 5.04 and want to use SageMC STV. I installed the Base STV then the 6.13 dev build. The UI works when I load the STV but when I checked for the SageMC options menu in Settings/Detail Setup/Advanced I couldn't find it. I have done several fresh installs of Sage TV and SageMC with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Check your Sage.properties file (or SageClient.properties if you are using client or service mode). Look for the line:

STV=E\:\\Video\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMC_169_6_2_0a.xml

If it shows [...]\\SageMC_169.stv, then you are not running the 6.13 build. You can correct this by doing the following:

- shut down Sage
- edit the line to [...]\\SageMC_169.xml
- restart Sage

Dirk

[tobyw01]

Worked Thanks :)

[wbarber69]

I've updated to the most recent sagemc and now when I am watching a show whether recorded or imported the time bar doesn't advance the time, the indicator moves but the time stays on whatever time it was when you brought up the time bar. if I let it go away when it comes back up it will show the time of that popup and so on and so forth, everthing else works but the the time not advancing

[scm]

I have some thoughts for improving the weather display. Has anyone ever seen the weather display in the HDeeTV theme for meedio? .....

Mike--the HDeeTV look is what I had in mind when I first suggested this. The icon set from the example you showed are not my favorite. I also agree that we need less informaiton on the main page. The temp and the current conditions should be enough. If I need a detailed view of the weather, I can go to the weather page. If you can enlarge the temp and make it more transparent with the current conditions icon, it should be enough. I am attaching a pic of my Meedio home page as an example.

Steve

[JUC]

Now that I have offline video icons enabled I notice that all my videos (offline or online) are showing the icon. Any idea what might be causing this?
Thanks,
Juc


hate bumping & quoteing myself but any thoughts?
Thanks,
Juc

[popechild]

I've updated to the most recent sagemc and now when I am watching a show whether recorded or imported the time bar doesn't advance the time, the indicator moves but the time stays on whatever time it was when you brought up the time bar. if I let it go away when it comes back up it will show the time of that popup and so on and so forth, everthing else works but the the time not advancing
What version of Sage are you on? Are you sure it's all recordings and not just imports? There's a bug in v6 that alot of people are having that does the same thing, but only with mpeg4 files.

Verify that you are not having a problem with the exact same recordings using the base STV. If you are, it's not related to MC.

[dflachbart]

Now that I have offline video icons enabled I notice that all my videos (offline or online) are showing the icon. Any idea what might be causing this?
Thanks,
Juc

hate bumping & quoteing myself but any thoughts?
Thanks,
Juc
Your paths to offline and online videos are different, right ?


Dirk

[Xsabre]

I have a question regarding commercial skip in SageMC, it appears that when you are viewing a show in a preview window it will not skip the commercial segments.

Is this as intended or is it a bug related issue?

I'm using SageMC 6.13a

[banmj]

I downloaded 6.2.0, and noticed all backgrounds are no longer transparent. I know this stv was not designed for transparent backgrounds, but I have been using it this way for a long time. Is transparent backgrounds something that can be modified in studio easily?

[scm]

I broke down and upgraded to the Sage 6.0 and then the SageMC 6.2. However, I lost all my IMDB information. I thought I had read of this happening, but I've searched and can't find a solution. Is this a known issue and is there a solution?

Also, all of my .png channel logos are now showing up with a white background in the channel guide instead of being transparent. Is this fixable?

Thanks for any help.

[popechild]

I broke down and upgraded to the Sage 6.0 and then the SageMC 6.2. However, I lost all my IMDB information. I thought I had read of this happening, but I've searched and can't find a solution. Is this a known issue and is there a solution?

Thanks for any help.
flachbar created a post in the Beta forum that Andy answered with a solution for this. can't find it right now, but you should be able to do a search in that forum for posts started by flachbar...

[Opus4]

There's a link in the sticky v6 tips topic in the beta forum.

- Andy

[dflachbart]

I have a question regarding commercial skip in SageMC, it appears that when you are viewing a show in a preview window it will not skip the commercial segments.

Is this as intended or is it a bug related issue?

I'm using SageMC 6.13a

Hi xsabre,

yes this is intended, the comskip code is tied to the OSD menu screen.


Dirk

[dflachbart]

but I have been using it this way for a long time. Is transparent backgrounds something that can be modified in studio easily?
You mean you have been using it with the default STV, right ? Well, load v6.13a, set the 'Video Menu Options' in the Detailed Setup to "Background / Always" and see for yourself, the UI looks like crap with background video. As you already mentioned, it was never designed for this usage.

Dirk

[snoopy]

I had this problem a while back and it has risen it's ugly head again. I want the alpha style search as opposed to the number pad. I understand the "pause" button is supposed to switch this but I don't have that. I have a "play/pause" button that does not force this change. How do I get my alpha pad back?

[banmj]

You mean you have been using it with the default STV, right ? Well, load v6.13a, set the 'Video Menu Options' in the Detailed Setup to "Background / Always" and see for yourself, the UI looks like crap with background video. As you already mentioned, it was never designed for this usage.

Dirk

No, I have been using sagemc with transparent background. I don't think it looked bad, I liked it.

[dflachbart]

I had this problem a while back and it has risen it's ugly head again. I want the alpha style search as opposed to the number pad. I understand the "pause" button is supposed to switch this but I don't have that. I have a "play/pause" button that does not force this change. How do I get my alpha pad back?

Detailed Setup / Customize / Numeric Text Input Settings / Use NTE: No


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Uploaded 6.2.0a with the following bugfixes:

- fixed errors popping up on Exit menu and SageMC options when "Show Errors" was enabled in Studio
- fixed timebar not showing up after pressing 'Info'
- fixed current time in timebar not updating

Mike was so kind and sent me a new weather bar layout, and I added it to this version:

http://s91885874.onlinehome.us/html/images/sagetv/620/new_weather.jpg


The text can be disabled, and the size of the bar can be adjusted (both in SageMC settings)

Dirk

[dflachbart]

No, I have been using sagemc with transparent background. I don't think it looked bad, I liked it.
Ok, was easy enough to put back, just re-download 6.2.0a (it now also works with 'IfActive')


Dirk

[banmj]

Ok, was easy enough to put back, just re-download 6.2.0a (it now also works with 'IfActive')


Dirk

Dirk,
Thanks for your help. Now that's what I call service.

[scm]

Mike and Dirk,

Thanks so much for the quick work!! The weather bar is great!! You guys are amazing at how quickly you respond to the community. Having been part of the myHTPC, Meedio, TheaterTek and AVSForum communities, I am impressed with how well this one works together. Again, thanks. :clap: :jump: :clap: :goodjob:

Now, does anyone have a tip on how to make my channel logos backgrounds become transparent again......

Steve

[geogecko]

Just installed this new version, and all I get now is a black screen of death...any hints on this one?

[geogecko]

Just installed this new version, and all I get now is a black screen of death...any hints on this one?

Very weird. Had to manually modify the STV in the properties file, then use the default STV to load SageMC_169.xml, and now all is well...

Is it the 31st of October yet or something???:eek:

Anyway, love the new weather bar. Very cool.

[JUC]

Your paths to offline and online videos are different, right ?


Dirk

Dirk--this is in relation to having the icons set to show offline/online videos.. I have my offline folder set as an import, then a seperate DVD folder set as an import. All the movies are showing correctly but they ALL have the icons (and BTW--is the icon supposed to show the video is online or offline?). So my offline videos show the little green icon as well as my online videos. Both have seperate folders but both are set as import folders. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Juc

[clmolnar]

I'm having an issue starting SageTV after installing the 6.2.0a version of SageMC.

If I try to start in fullscreen, it opens up just a black screen. I can hear the cursor moving around in the background over items, but as soon as I pick any menu, it freezes, and I have to ctrl-alt-del and kill the process. The debug log shows "AWTThread Hang Detected".

Starting in a window loads as normal, and I am able to switch to fullscreen and run fine.

Another issue I'm encountering is after reaching the end of a recorded show, I receive the dialog that asks what I want to do with the file. Upon hitting Stop to go back to the main screen, SageTV freezes with the same AWTThread Hang in the debug file.

Help!

[MeInMaui]

Dirk--this is in relation to having the icons set to show offline/online videos.. I have my offline folder set as an import, then a seperate DVD folder set as an import. All the movies are showing correctly but they ALL have the icons (and BTW--is the icon supposed to show the video is online or offline?). So my offline videos show the little green icon as well as my online videos. Both have seperate folders but both are set as import folders. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Juc

There is a separate yellow DVD icon for offline videos. I'm not sure, but your issue could have to do with having your offline folder set as an import. I think there is a separate place to specify your offline folder in the SageMC Options menu. I don't have any offline videos set up at the moment, so I'm not sure how that all works. Sorry I can't offer more help.

Mike

[Kirby]

I wish there was a way to have a DVD icon like the offline one, for DVD rips, so its more obvious from the folder view which movies are DVD and which are HD. Guess that is probably beyond the realm of possibilities right? Maybe there could be an option to assign the HD or DVD icon added, much like the custom genre stuff was added?

[scm]

I know I'm missing something simple....

Several times when I return to the home page, the weather bar is highlighted. If I select it, it takes me to the weather page, which is great. But I can't figure out how to intentionally navigate to the weather bar. What am I missing??:blush:

[geogecko]

I wish there was a way to have a DVD icon like the offline one, for DVD rips, so its more obvious from the folder view which movies are DVD and which are HD. Guess that is probably beyond the realm of possibilities right? Maybe there could be an option to assign the HD or DVD icon added, much like the custom genre stuff was added?

Not sure what you mean...

In my system, when I rip a DVD to the HD, the icon that shows up, is the online icon (which is a hard drive), when the DVD's are offline, the icon shows a DVD icon.

From what you said, that would mean that all ripped DVD's would have the offline icon (DVD icon), and all offline DVD's would have the same icon. That doesn't make since to me.

Are you talking about 3 types of possible situations here, because you have 2 situations already covered...

[MeInMaui]

I know I'm missing something simple....

Several times when I return to the home page, the weather bar is highlighted. If I select it, it takes me to the weather page, which is great. But I can't figure out how to intentionally navigate to the weather bar. What am I missing??:blush:

Press the right arrow key when on a menu item other than My TV. That should highlight the weather bar.

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

Dirk--this is in relation to having the icons set to show offline/online videos.. I have my offline folder set as an import, then a seperate DVD folder set as an import. All the movies are showing correctly but they ALL have the icons (and BTW--is the icon supposed to show the video is online or offline?). So my offline videos show the little green icon as well as my online videos. Both have seperate folders but both are set as import folders. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Juc

So you get the same icon no matter what the video is (offline or online)?

I'll take a look when I get home, and let you know how I have all mine setup. I think there is a trick to get it right...

[geogecko]

Press the right arrow key when on a menu item other than My TV. That should highlight the weather bar.

Aloha,
Mike

Freaggin' easter eggs...I missed that one.

[MeInMaui]

Not sure what you mean...

In my system, when I rip a DVD to the HD, the icon that shows up, is the online icon (which is a hard drive), when the DVD's are offline, the icon shows a DVD icon.

From what you said, that would mean that all ripped DVD's would have the offline icon (DVD icon), and all offline DVD's would have the same icon. That doesn't make since to me.

Are you talking about 3 types of possible situations here, because you have 2 situations already covered...

I think Kirby is requesting another icon to indicate that the video had been ripped from a DVD. It might be just as effective to add the HD icon for videos that came from HD sources. Then you would know everything else is SD. The way I read Kirby's request, separating HD from SD content seems to be the main intent. Please let me know if I'm wrong here.

Aloha,
Mike

[MeInMaui]

Freaggin' easter eggs...I missed that one.

:D

[geogecko]

Oh, good night nurse. This might help explain the problem.

HD stands for:

Hard Drive
High Definition
Hewlett Packard
Heavy Duty
Have Done
Help Desk
High Density
Harley Davidson
Host Directory
Home Depot
Heart disease
High Dose
Hundred Dollars
Half Duplex
Hundreds Of Dollars
Hard To Do
High Demand
Hot Dog
Hardware Design
Hans Dieter
Hemodialysis
Hand Drawn
Happy Day

[Kirby]

I think Kirby is requesting another icon to indicate that the video had been ripped from a DVD. It might be just as effective to add the HD icon for videos that came from HD sources. Then you would know everything else is SD. The way I read Kirby's request, separating HD from SD content seems to be the main intent. Please let me know if I'm wrong here.

Aloha,
Mike


Yes, sorry I wasnt clear there. HD for High Def, and a DVD icon for DVD rips. Now some of you might ask, if you have a movie in HD, why keep a DVD rip of the same? Couple of reasons:

1) Original Aspect Ratio (HBO and Starz shred OAR all the time)
2) DTS sound tracks

But I know my request is probably not a big deal for many, so its probably just a pipe dream at this point.. At least until I can figure out how to code something on my own (what year is it?).

[MeInMaui]

Oh, good night nurse. This might help explain the problem.

HD stands for:

Hard Drive
High Definition
Hewlett Packard
Heavy Duty
Have Done
Help Desk
High Density
Harley Davidson
Host Directory
Home Depot
Heart disease
High Dose
Hundred Dollars
Half Duplex
Hundreds Of Dollars
Hard To Do
High Demand
Hot Dog
Hardware Design
Hans Dieter
Hemodialysis
Hand Drawn
Happy Day

HD = Hewlet Packard?

I'd like to see your logic on that one. :p

[Kirby]

HD = Hewlet Packard?

I'd like to see your logic on that one. :p

Simple.....Follow me here....

Hewlett-packard finally outsold Dell for the first time in a gazillion years! HD

Ok, I better stop drinking now... :)

[JUC]

So you get the same icon no matter what the video is (offline or online)?

I'll take a look when I get home, and let you know how I have all mine setup. I think there is a trick to get it right...

Thanks--i don't have any time tonight to look into this but i plan to redo my settings for DVD Profiler tomorrow (in-laws are up for the night).
But ya...I'm gettting the same icon (i think its green) for both online and offline videos right now.

Juc

[dflachbart]

Thanks--i don't have any time tonight to look into this but i plan to redo my settings for DVD Profiler tomorrow (in-laws are up for the night).
But ya...I'm gettting the same icon (i think its green) for both online and offline videos right now.

Juc

What's your entry for "mlbdude/offline_path" in the property file ? Does it match the directory where SageMC created the fake mpg files during DVD Profiler import ?


Dirk

[geogecko]

Thanks--i don't have any time tonight to look into this but i plan to redo my settings for DVD Profiler tomorrow (in-laws are up for the night).
But ya...I'm gettting the same icon (i think its green) for both online and offline videos right now.

Juc

Mine is setup with the following:

D:/MEDIA_D/DVD
D:/MEDIA_D/OFFLINE/DVD

Both as library imports, video only.

Then, I have the Offline path setup as the offline path listed above, in SageMC options.

The OFFLINE/DVD folder should be empty, initially, until SageMC fills it with the needed information (which is usually just a .jpg and a dummy .mpg file).

I think that's about it...

[dflachbart]

But I know my request is probably not a big deal for many, so its probably just a pipe dream at this point.. At least until I can figure out how to code something on my own (what year is it?).
If the Sage core would allow to extend the database with custom meta data tags I wouldnt mind adding this, but right now it's a PIA because it would need to be hacked into one of the existing fields


Dirk

[Kirby]

If the Sage core would allow to extend the database with custom meta data tags I wouldnt mind adding this, but right now it's a PIA because it would need to be hacked into one of the existing fields


Dirk

Yeah I figured it was a PIA like that... What if I were to get all my DVD rips and locate them in the offline DVD directory, rather than dummy mpeg files in there? How would sage react to that? Would it play them? I've never messed with the whole DVD Profiler stuff and offline DVD's so I dont know what that would do.

[dflachbart]

I'm having an issue starting SageTV after installing the 6.2.0a version of SageMC.

If I try to start in fullscreen, it opens up just a black screen. I can hear the cursor moving around in the background over items, but as soon as I pick any menu, it freezes, and I have to ctrl-alt-del and kill the process. The debug log shows "AWTThread Hang Detected".

Starting in a window loads as normal, and I am able to switch to fullscreen and run fine.

Another issue I'm encountering is after reaching the end of a recorded show, I receive the dialog that asks what I want to do with the file. Upon hitting Stop to go back to the main screen, SageTV freezes with the same AWTThread Hang in the debug file.

Help!

Not sure how to help, I've never experienced those issues myself. Did you play with different video settings (hardware accel on/off, FSE on/off, etc) ?

Dirk

[scm]

Press the right arrow key when on a menu item other than My TV. That should highlight the weather bar.

Aloha,
Mike

Ok, this explains why I couldn't find it--it doesn't work for me! When I press right for TV and Other Programs, I get the appropriate menus, of course. But when I press right for anything else, I get nothing. I'll have to trouble shoot this.


Let me ask one last time about my channel icons-is it normal for the icon backgrounds to no longer be transparent in the 6.0 versions? The icons have maintained a transparent background in the on screen mini-guide, but in the main guide, the background is now white. This sure messes up the look in my guide.

[dflachbart]

Ok, this explains why I couldn't find it--it doesn't work for me! When I press right for TV and Other Programs, I get the appropriate menus, of course. But when I press right for anything else, I get nothing. I'll have to trouble shoot this.

Yeah, it doesnt work if you have "MCE" style set ... I'll see if I can change this, no promises though ...



Let me ask one last time about my channel icons-is it normal for the icon backgrounds to no longer be transparent in the 6.0 versions? The icons have maintained a transparent background in the on screen mini-guide, but in the main guide, the background is now white. This sure messes up the look in my guide.
I only have jpg channel logos available. Can you post one logo icon so that I can try to test it here ?

Dirk

[geogecko]

Not sure how to help, I've never experienced those issues myself. Did you play with different video settings (hardware accel on/off, FSE on/off, etc) ?

Dirk

I think this is related to the iSageMC theme plugin. I have experienced the same problem, and have stopped using it (which was a BIG hassle to get back to my regular theme). Tonight, I came home, and it was locked up on the screensaver, with the dreaded spinning SageTV icon...

I'm not sure what's going on there, if there is some kind of incompatibility with the newest version of SageMC and the iSageMC theme, or what...but it's very frustrating.

[dflachbart]

Yeah, it doesnt work if you have "MCE" style set ... I'll see if I can change this, no promises though ...


Will be in the next version ... :)

Dirk

[popechild]

Thanks--i don't have any time tonight to look into this but i plan to redo my settings for DVD Profiler tomorrow (in-laws are up for the night).
But ya...I'm gettting the same icon (i think its green) for both online and offline videos right now.

Juc
Am I the only one who doesn't like using the icons because I don't want other people to see which ones are online and which ones aren't? I think it's some kind of insecurity due to insufficient hard drive space... :p

I prefer to let everyone that sees my Sage assume that they're all online. Much cooler that way.

[MeInMaui]

Am I the only one who doesn't like using the icons because I don't want other people to see which ones are online and which ones aren't? I think it's some kind of insecurity due to insufficient hard drive space... :p

I prefer to let everyone that sees my Sage assume that they're all online. Much cooler that way.

I suppose it's slightly more effective than stuffing a sock in your computer, but either way you'll eventually get called on misrepresenting the size of your hard drive. :p

[ke6guj]

Yeah, it doesnt work if you have "MCE" style set ... I'll see if I can change this, no promises though ...


For right now, if while in the Main Menu, you get focus down to the preview video, you can right arrow to the weather icon. I can left arrow to Power, then down arrow to preview video, and then right arrow to weather. Aroundabout, but it works.

[JDizzy]

For right now, if while in the Main Menu, you get focus down to the preview video, you can right arrow to the weather icon. I can left arrow to Power, then down arrow to preview video, and then right arrow to weather. Aroundabout, but it works.

Ditto on above... that is the only way I can do it (other than actually choosing Weather off the menu).

On another note....I made an attempt at installing the iMC plugin (even after being forewarned by several people of danger..... and...well, it locked up while loading in the xml file... tried it twice, same result.... :nono:

To get out, I unzipped my copy of MC v6.20a. let it overwrite the iMC files, reinstalled and back in business....
Oh yeah, and just as a precaution I made a backup of my properties file befroe trying to install iMC (Just in case)...
JD

[scm]

....I only have jpg channel logos available. Can you post one logo icon so that I can try to test it here ?

Dirk

I've attached an NBC logo from my HD feed. The background should be tranparent leaving only the logo and the letters HD. This worked great in V5 and still works in the mini guide.

[geogecko]

I suppose it's slightly more effective than stuffing a sock in your computer, but either way you'll eventually get called on misrepresenting the size of your hard drive. :p

:rofl:

[evilpenguin]

Hey Dirk, minor request, can you add a new catagory, "Extras", into the SageMC prefs that way imports can have a place of their own to toss configuration items?

[geogecko]

I just had another lockup (no iTV theme), where I was backing out from the "My TV" menu selection, to the Main Menu, and I got an overlapping, semi transparent view of both screens, then it froze.

Has something drastic changed between this version, and the previous version of the STV?

And then every time I restart I get the black screen again...

[clmolnar]

Geogecko, those are the exact same problems that I am experiencing. I have to start SageTV in windowed mode, and then maximize it. It looks like it's not an iTV theme issue, it's an issue with SageMC 6.2.0a.

I might have found a work-around for the lockup issue by enabling the "Disable popup on Stop" option in the SageMC options. I haven't had a lockup since I read this solution in the AWTThread Hang thread.

Hopefully we can find the root cause of these issues.

[White94Cobra]

Another one that is experiencing the overlapping windows / freeze issue. Moving to the prior version resolves the issue completely.

[geogecko]

Another one that is experiencing the overlapping windows / freeze issue. Moving to the prior version resolves the issue completely.

LOL, every time I delete my previous versions of SageMC, something like this happens.

Would someone post the previous to the "a" version?

[geogecko]

LOL, on another note, has anyone else noticed that the sounds have stopped working, regardless of the setting in the SageMC Options, or is it just me?

I've been having sound issues lately (installing new chipset drivers and what not), so it really could just be me...

[clmolnar]

I no longer have sounds unless I have the iTV theme installed regardless of settings. :)

Heres SageMC 6.2.0

[geogecko]

I no longer have sounds unless I have the iTV theme installed regardless of settings. :)

Heres SageMC 6.2.0

Thanks...I think I might need that.

I just got done getting things back to normal, even "Enabled" the Disable Pop Up on Stop setting.

Then I right arrow over to the weather bar (oops...), and clicked on it...and locked up again...

I'm going to try a reboot before going back to the older version.

[MeInMaui]

Thanks...I think I might need that.

I just got done getting things back to normal, even "Enabled" the Disable Pop Up on Stop setting.

Then I right arrow over to the weather bar (oops...), and clicked on it...and locked up again...

I'm going to try a reboot before going back to the older version.

Do you have 3D accelleration turned off?

[clmolnar]

I just found a problem with the compact time display. When it's past midnight, the time is being shown as 0:31 for instance. When turning the compact display off, the time is 12:31. Turn it back on, and it's 12:31.

I'm pretty sure it's not using army time, but I never really paid that much attention to it.

[geogecko]

Do you have 3D accelleration turned off?

Nope, it's always been on. Should it be turned off for some reason?:(

Locked up again. I'm headed back to 6.20...

[horseflesh]

As far as I know Comskip on both *.txt and *.edl is working for everyone, all prior issues were due to JAR / setup issues. Now it could be a TS specific problem (although there is no code in SageMC that does specifically assume the current file is a mpg file), but I can't debug it since I don't record in HD. You could try to generate a debug file (see first post in thread for instructions), and I'll have a look, maybe there is still a setup issue ...

Dirk

Cool, I will post a debug file soon. Thanks.

[Kirby]

I had all these issues last night and thought I was going crazy! I finally just reset back to the default STV, erased all SageMC xml files I had, and all itv theme xml's, and started over fresh with 6.2.0a, and its been working fine now. Dont know why...

[dflachbart]

Are you guys saying that you get the lockups in 6.2.0a, but it's fine in 6.2.0 ? That would be really weird. Unless it's something with the weatherbar... Does it always happen on a screen where it is displayed ?

Dirk

[Kirby]

I wasnt getting the lockups per se, but the startup black screen of death I had (running the iTV theme). I think it was related to the weather bar though, because sometimes I could get the system to draw the sage menus, and my weatherbar would report a temp of "!! F" or "!9 F". When I got the black screen, I could eventually (after 2-3 minutes) move the cursor up or down, and things would appear. Maybe it was corruption from the iTV import too, I dont know. But after wiping out all xml's other than the SageTV3, I could reinstall and things worked.

Things that I tried that made no difference: starting in full screen vs. window mode, FSE on and off.

Could it be an issue where the weatherbar is trying to get the current weather info at startup, and its having network access issues of some sort, and delays the writing of the whole Sage menu to a point where it just gives up?

And yes, these issues were not there in 6.2.0.

[geogecko]

Are you guys saying that you get the lockups in 6.2.0a, but it's fine in 6.2.0 ? That would be really weird. Unless it's something with the weatherbar... Does it always happen on a screen where it is displayed ?

Dirk

I also removed the iTV STV's, and also all SageMC...xml files, and unzipped a fresh install of 6.2.0a, but still had lockup problems afterwards.

Last night, I switched back to 6.2.0 in hopes that my wife won't have to call me today while I'm at work. So far (I checked before I left this morning), everything is fine, with 6.2.0. I like the look of the new weatherbar. I don't see why the weatherbar would cause such an issue, since it exists in 6.2.0.

As far as locking up when the weatherbar is displayed...it could be. It's either locked up on the Main Menu, going to the Main Menu, or while in Sleep.

Edit.

Maybe someone needs to try 6.2.0a with the weatherbar disabled, and see if that removes the issue...

[Kirby]

Wait a second, I never ran 6.2.0 (I think), I went right from 6.13a to 6.2.0a (I think). Heck I dont know anymore, I've got no working brain cells so I could be running BTV and not know it!

[clmolnar]

Good idea Geogecko, after disabling the weather bar I have not had any issues with black screens. Sage has displayed almost immediately in fullscreen now every time I have tried.

[geogecko]

Good idea Geogecko, after disabling the weather bar I have not had any issues with black screens. Sage has displayed almost immediately in fullscreen now every time I have tried.

LOL, I'm going to stand by and wait for another reply... :D Hopefully, this will prove one way or another what is causing the problem...

FYI, I never experienced the BSOD (black screen of death), until after a crash. Heck, one time, it even took my sageclient.properties file with it! Here's to SageTV for doing auto-backups! :goodjob:

[JUC]

Just wanted to let you all know that I finally got my Offline icons working properly. I don't think i had some of the paths correctly identified so i started from scratch and all is good now. Thanks for the help.
Juc

[kricker]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are having so many problems. I am using 6.2.0a without a single hiccup. The weather bar works great. I am using the MCE theme and pressing right on any menu item but my TV takes me to the weather bar. Pressing it takes me to the weather, and then backing out takes me right back to the home menu. No crashes no lockups. I am using overlay with acceleration. All animations are set to disabled (I want things fast). I am also just using beta 11 not 12 if that makes any difference, and JRE 5 update 9.

[popechild]

I suppose it's slightly more effective than stuffing a sock in your computer, but either way you'll eventually get called on misrepresenting the size of your hard drive. :p
:goodjob:

[popechild]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are having so many problems. I am using 6.2.0a without a single hiccup. The weather bar works great. I am using the MCE theme and pressing right on any menu item but my TV takes me to the weather bar. Pressing it takes me to the weather, and then backing out takes me right back to the home menu. No crashes no lockups. I am using overlay with acceleration. All animations are set to disabled (I want things fast). I am also just using beta 11 not 12 if that makes any difference, and JRE 5 update 9.
Does it sound like a common denominator among all the people with the lockups is the iTV theme? At least having had it at some point? Or are some people getting lockups who've never used the iTV theme?

[dflachbart]

Good idea Geogecko, after disabling the weather bar I have not had any issues with black screens. Sage has displayed almost immediately in fullscreen now every time I have tried.
Since you seem to be able to reproduce this consistently, can you try the attached STV (with weather bar enabled) and see if the problem goes away ?

Thanks,

Dirk

[JUC]

Does it sound like a common denominator among all the people with the lockups is the iTV theme? At least having had it at some point? Or are some people getting lockups who've never used the iTV theme?

I use the iTV theme and have no lockups....but i'm only using it on my MVP FWIW

[geogecko]

Does it sound like a common denominator among all the people with the lockups is the iTV theme? At least having had it at some point? Or are some people getting lockups who've never used the iTV theme?

True, I could see how this could be thought of as the factor. However, I downloaded the iTV theme, before any other files that would affect the installation were in there.

When I checked the iTV theme download package, all it contained were image files, and the import file only, no JARs or anything else. I removed the import file, and redownloaded the SageMC STV (so it was fresh)...

I am on v6, but only -11, not -12.

[clmolnar]

Since you seem to be able to reproduce this consistently, can you try the attached STV (with weather bar enabled) and see if the problem goes away ?

Thanks,

Dirk

Hey Dirk,

This new file does not fix the problem. It works fine with the weather bar disabled, but upon enabling it, I get a black screen every time when starting in full screen. CPU is pegged out at 100%. Starting in windowed mode and switching to full screen works just fine.

Carl

[MeInMaui]

Has anyone checked their log files to see what's happening when you get either a lockup of the black screen of death? Maybe if a few of you could post the revelent snippets, we might be able to get a handle on what's happening.

Aloha,
Mike

[Kirby]

I should still have a few from last night, I will post them when I get home.

[geogecko]

I'd have to reinstall 6.2.0a, but would be happy to help with it.

I also noticed, that sounds have come back when installing 6.2.0. They don't appear to work anymore in the -a version.

[clmolnar]

Sage does not actually lock up when I try and load it fullscreen with the weather bar enabled. The screen is entirely black, however if I move my mouse around, I can hear the selection changing on the buttons on the main menu. So, the screen is blank, however the buttons are there. Clicking the mouse button anywhere on the screen produces a lockup, which in the log file is an AWTThread Hang.

The lockup that happens when I get the overlapping menus is also reported as a bunch of AWTThread Hangs in the log file. This one is not as easy for me to reproduce, as it has not happened since enabling the "disable stop menu popup" option.

I can post a log file of the black screen lockup, but I'm not sure if it would really help, since the lockup doesn't occur until clicking the mouse button. Let me know.

Carl

[dflachbart]

Sage does not actually lock up when I try and load it fullscreen with the weather bar enabled. The screen is entirely black, however if I move my mouse around, I can hear the selection changing on the buttons on the main menu. So, the screen is blank, however the buttons are there. Clicking the mouse button anywhere on the screen produces a lockup, which in the log file is an AWTThread Hang.

The lockup that happens when I get the overlapping menus is also reported as a bunch of AWTThread Hangs in the log file. This one is not as easy for me to reproduce, as it has not happened since enabling the "disable stop menu popup" option.

I can post a log file of the black screen lockup, but I'm not sure if it would really help, since the lockup doesn't occur until clicking the mouse button. Let me know.

Carl
Hi Carl,

just so I know where to dig : does version 6.2.0 (with weather bar enabled) exhibit the same issue on your system ?

Dirk

[clmolnar]

Switching back to 6.2.0 (with weather bar enabled) completely resolves the issue.

Carl

[dflachbart]

Switching back to 6.2.0 (with weather bar enabled) completely resolves the issue.

Carl
Well, I'm still mostly tapping in the dark, but could you try this one ?


Dirk

[clmolnar]

No go with that one either.

[archie658]

A lot of the issues were caused by an incorrect download package where sagemc.jar was named sagemc.zip. Did you check if you have a sagemc.zip in your JARs directory ? If so, rename it to sagemc.jar, and restart SageMC.

Dirk

Hi Dirk,

"My Menu" (menu.xml) stopped working in 6.20a. I didn't find the sagemc.zip. Nor did I find any other messages regarding this.

The custom menu is displayed and the options can be highlighted, but nothing is started or displayed when selected. If I'm switching back to the 6.13a xml (for SageTV 6.11/6.12), everything is working fine.

Any ideas?

Art

[dflachbart]

No go with that one either.
Oh well, last thing I want to try ...

Btw, what's the value of "sagemc/weather_bar_scalefactor" in your property file ?


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Hi Dirk,

"My Menu" (menu.xml) stopped working in 6.20a. I didn't find the sagemc.zip. Nor did I find any other messages regarding this.

The custom menu is displayed and the options can be highlighted, but nothing is started or displayed when selected. If I'm switching back to the 6.13a xml (for SageTV 6.11/6.12), everything is working fine.

Any ideas?

Art
Hi Art,

did you follow these instructions ?


- shut down Sage
- unzip *all* JAR files and SageMC_169.xml
- (important): delete the folder net\sf\sageplugins\sagemenu from your Sage directory, otherwise the new dynamic menus will not work
- restart Sage

Dirk

[clmolnar]

Oh well, last thing I want to try ...

Btw, what's the value of "sagemc/weather_bar_scalefactor" in your property file ?


Dirk


This one doesn't resolve the black screen startup issue either. :(

sagemc/weather_bar_scalefactor=1.0 in my properties file.

[dflachbart]

This one doesn't resolve the black screen startup issue either. :(

sagemc/weather_bar_scalefactor=1.0 in my properties file.
:confused:

Well the only idea I have left to locate the issue is to remove parts of the weather display code piece by piece until the problem goes away. If you want to try this, send me your email address per PM, and I'll send you the STVs to try.

Dirk

[MeInMaui]

With all of these AWT (Absract Window Toolkit) Thread hangs involved, I've got to wonder if this is related to the java version. Maybe we are somehow exposing a bug/feature/quirk? To everyone who is having balck screen and/or hanging problems, what JRE version are you running? Also, are the AWT Thread hangs the only indication of something wrong in the logs?

[clmolnar]

I'm using java 1.4.2_11

The AWTTHread Hangs are the only indication of errors in the log file.

Carl

[archie658]

Hi Art,

did you follow these instructions ?


Dirk


:blush:

[millers_35]

I am also seeing the problem but mine will load if you give it about 6 seconds. I am using the iTV theme and having Sage startup in Fullscreen. Here is my log. All I did was start SageTV and once the interface loaded (after about 6 seconds) I shut it down. I was using SageMC 6.2.0 when I imported and changed the theme to iTV then I upgraded to 6.2.0a and iTV was already my theme so I didnt import it again.

Theme - iTV (not the latest)
FSE - no
Java - 1.4.2_12
SageMC - 6.2.0a
Imports - Sleeptimer

Wed 10/25 22:24:36.248 user.dir2=G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.250 classpath=G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\Sage.jar;G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\xerces.jar;G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\plugin.jar;G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\;;JARs\commons-jxpath-1.1.jar;JARs\commons-logging-api.jar;JARs\commons-logging.jar;JARs\df_sageutils.jar;JARs\df_sleep_timer.jar;JARs\jcifs-1.1.6.jar;JARs\jdic.jar;JARs\mx4j-impl.jar;JARs\mx4j-jmx.jar;JARs\mx4j-remote.jar;JARs\mx4j-tools.jar;JARs\nielm_sageimdb.jar;JARs\nielm_sagemenureader.jar;JARs\nielm_sageutls.jar;JARs\nielm_sagewebserver.jar;JARs\nielm_sagexmlinfo.jar;JARs\sagemc.jar;JARs\sbbi-jmx-1.0.jar;JARs\sbbi-upnplib-1.0.3.jar;JARs\servlet.jar
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.251 JVM version=1.4.2_12
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.251 OS=Windows XP 5.1
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.252 Succesfully setup system shell hook
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.253 not specifiy WinkeyboardHook in registery, load default one
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.269 Disabling offscreen DirectDraw acceleration
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.605 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/splash.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.622 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1126b07
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.652 SageTV V6.0.12.110
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.661 hostname=millertime
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.711 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.714 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@c980c9
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.782 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon_anim0.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.784 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1315d34
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.785 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon_anim1.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.786 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@e2cb55
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.787 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon_anim2.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.789 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@119dc16
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.789 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/G:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon_anim3.gif
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.791 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@166afb3
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.881 Wizard starting to load database info...
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.883 Wizard DONE loading database info. loadTime=0.0010 sec
Wed 10/25 22:24:36.911 SageTV received connection from:Socket[addr=/127.0.0.1,port=42024,localport=2511]
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.637 Wizard allocating table for Year of size 114
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.637 Wizard loading main index for Year
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.640 Wizard allocating table for Network of size 84
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.640 Wizard loading main index for Network
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.643 Wizard allocating table for Title of size 5941
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.643 Wizard loading main index for Title
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.863 Wizard building alt. index 0 for Title
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.876 Wizard allocating table for Channel of size 79
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.877 Wizard loading main index for Channel
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.880 Wizard allocating table for People of size 27094
Wed 10/25 22:24:37.881 Wizard loading main index for People
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.579 Wizard building alt. index 0 for People
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.626 Wizard allocating table for SubCategory of size 126
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.626 Wizard loading main index for SubCategory
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.629 Wizard allocating table for Rated of size 5
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.629 Wizard loading main index for Rated
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.629 Wizard allocating table for ParentalRating of size 0
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.630 Wizard allocating table for ExtendedRating of size 10
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.630 Wizard loading main index for ExtendedRating
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.631 Wizard allocating table for Category of size 107
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.631 Wizard loading main index for Category
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.633 Wizard allocating table for PrimeTitle of size 0
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.634 Wizard allocating table for Bonus of size 244
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.634 Wizard loading main index for Bonus
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.651 Wizard allocating table for Show of size 18898
Wed 10/25 22:24:38.652 Wizard loading main index for Show
Wed 10/25 22:24:42.821 Wizard building alt. index 0 for Show
Wed 10/25 22:24:42.865 Wizard allocating table for Airing of size 40674
Wed 10/25 22:24:42.866 Wizard loading main index for Airing
Wed 10/25 22:24:43.993 Wizard building alt. index 0 for Airing
Wed 10/25 22:24:44.017 Wizard building alt. index 1 for Airing
Wed 10/25 22:24:44.042 Wizard allocating table for ManualRecord of size 28
Wed 10/25 22:24:44.043 Wizard loading main index for ManualRecord
Wed 10/25 22:24:44.048 Wizard allocating table for MediaFile of size 1969
Wed 10/25 22:24:44.048 Wizard loading main index for MediaFile
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.090 Wizard building alt. index 0 for MediaFile
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.092 Wizard building alt. index 1 for MediaFile
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.110 Wizard allocating table for Watched of size 1977
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.110 Wizard loading main index for Watched
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.210 Wizard building alt. index 0 for Watched
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.212 Wizard allocating table for Agent of size 526
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.212 Wizard loading main index for Agent
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.271 Wizard building alt. index 0 for Agent
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.274 Wizard allocating table for Wasted of size 335
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.275 Wizard loading main index for Wasted
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.278 Wizard allocating table for Playlist of size 125
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.278 Wizard loading main index for Playlist
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.315 Wizard allocating table for TVEditorial of size 61
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.316 Wizard loading main index for TVEditorial
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.344 Wizard allocating table for SeriesInfo of size 1495
Wed 10/25 22:24:45.345 Wizard loading main index for SeriesInfo
Wed 10/25 22:24:46.358 SageTV received connection from:Socket[addr=/127.0.0.1,port=42024,localport=2512]
Wed 10/25 22:24:46.642 MMC calling detectCaptureDevices on sage.o@508be
Wed 10/25 22:24:46.667 devices detected=[Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2, Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture]
Wed 10/25 22:24:46.667 EncoderMap={Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2, Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture}
Wed 10/25 22:24:46.950 Checking video directories for new files
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.181 DShowFilters=[.RAM file Parser, 9x8Resize, AC3 Parser Filter, ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder, ACM Wrapper, Allocator Fix, ASF ACM Handler, ASF DIB Handler, ASF DJPEG Handler, ASF embedded stuff Handler, ASF ICM Handler, ASF JPEG Handler, ASF URL Handler, ASX file Parser, ASX v.2 file Parser, AVI Decompressor, AVI Draw, AVI Mux, AVI Splitter, AVI/WAV File Source, Bitmap Generate, Color Space Converter, Deinterlace Filter, DirectVobSub, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), DivX Decoder Filter, DivX Demux, DivX Subtitle Decoder, DV Muxer, DV Splitter, DV Video Decoder, DVD Navigator, File Source (Async.), File Source (Netshow URL), File Source (URL), File stream renderer, File writer, Frame Eater, Full Screen Renderer, G.711 Codec, Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2, Hauppauge WinTV File Reader, Hauppauge WinTV File Writer, Hauppauge WinTV MPEG Splitter, Hauppauge WinTV SnapShot, Indeo® audio software, Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter, Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter, Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter, Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter, Infinite Pin Tee Filter, Internal Script Command Renderer, IVF source filter, Line 21 Decoder, Line 21 Decoder 2, Lyric Parser, Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor, Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor, MIDI Parser, Minimal Null, MJPEG Decompressor, MPEG Audio Decoder, MPEG Layer-3 Decoder, MPEG Video Decoder, MPEG-2 Demultiplexer, MPEG-2 Sections and Tables, MPEG-2 Splitter, MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer, MPEG-I Stream Splitter, MPEG2Dump, Mpeg4 Decoder DMO, Mpeg43 Decoder DMO, Mpeg4s Decoder DMO, Multi-file Parser, NSC file Parser, Null Renderer, NVIDIA ATSC File, NVIDIA Audio Decoder, NVIDIA Cd Audio Reader, NVIDIA MultiSource Filter, NVIDIA Navigator, NVIDIA Transport Demux, NVIDIA TS Info Parser, NVIDIA Video Decoder, NVIDIA Video Post Processor, Overlay Mixer, Overlay Mixer2, QT Decompressor, QuickTime Movie Parser, Record Queue, SageTV MPEG Audio Decoder, SageTV MPEG Audio Encoder, SageTV MPEG Encoder, SageTV MPEG Layer II Audio Encoder, SageTV MPEG Multiplexer, SageTV MPEG Splitter, SageTV MPEG Video Decoder, SageTV MPEG Video Encoder, SageTV MpegDeMux, SageTV MpegMux, SageTV Music Visualization, SageTV TS Splitter 1.0, SAMI (CC) Parser, SampleGrabber, Screen Capture filter, Shared File Source (Async.), ShotBoundaryDet, Smart Tee, StreamBufferSink, StreamBufferSource, Stretch Video, Subtitle Source, Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter, VBI Surface Allocator, VGA 16 Color Ditherer, Video Mixing Renderer 9, Video Port Manager, Video Renderer, Video Renderer, Wave Parser, WIA Stream Snapshot Filter, Windows Media Audio Decoder, Windows Media Multiplexer, Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber, Windows Media source filter, Windows Media Update Filter, Windows Media Video Decoder, Windows Media Video Decoder, WM ASF Reader, WM ASF Writer, WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO, WMAudio Decoder DMO, WMSpeech Decoder DMO, WMT AudioAnalyzer, WMT Black Frame Generator, WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper, WMT DV Extract, WMT Format Conversion, WMT Import Filter, WMT Interlacer, WMT Log Filter, WMT MuxDeMux Filter, WMT Sample Information Filter, WMT Screen Capture filter, WMT Switch Filter, WMT VIH2 Fix, WMT Virtual Renderer, WMT Virtual Source, WMT Volume, WMV Screen decoder DMO, WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO, WMVideo Decoder DMO, WST Decoder, XML Playlist, XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder]
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.378 sage.aw@b6f7f5 needs an update in 2:02:24
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.378 EPG needs an update in 122 minutes
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.379 EPG's works is done. Waiting...
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.567 VF thread is now running...
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.569 VF thread is now waiting for 0:00:00.000
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.570 SetFullScreen(true)
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.571 FullScreen set to true
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.573 UIMgr loading UI from: G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMC_169-1.xml
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.599 MsgSend thread spawned for /127.0.0.1:42024
Wed 10/25 22:24:47.603 MsgRecv thread has spawned for /127.0.0.1:42024
Wed 10/25 22:24:48.362 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 799
Wed 10/25 22:24:49.112 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 1549
Wed 10/25 22:24:49.721 StorageDeviceDetector started...
Wed 10/25 22:24:49.736 locale = en
Wed 10/25 22:24:49.872 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 2309
Wed 10/25 22:24:49.998 Initializing EPG categories
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.066 Found category animated
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.067 Found category children-special
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.068 Found category children
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.068 Found category documentary
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.069 Found category holiday special
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.070 Found category movie
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.070 Found category news
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.071 Found category special
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.071 Found category sports non-event
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.072 Found category sports talk
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.073 Found category sports
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.104 reading IMDB cache ...
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.104 cache directory = G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\IMDBCache
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.105 cache size = 1000
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.106 8 images in cache
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.111 Sleep Timer initialized
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.117 global timer inactive
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.170 DatePat=EEE, MMM d orgPat=EEEE, MMMM d, yyyy
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.215 setUI(sage.b2@70856b[Main Menu]) histIdx=0 uiHistory=[sage.b2@70856b[Main Menu]]
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.623 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 3060
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.876 Updating weather...
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.900 VF processing job null nPlayin=false
Wed 10/25 22:24:50.900 VF thread is now waiting for 0:00:00.000
Wed 10/25 22:24:51.387 Rendered new font to cache font=java.awt.Font[family=Arial,name=Arial,style=bold,size=33] numGlyphs=1674 numCachedGlyphs=287 numImages=4
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Wed 10/25 22:24:54.046 Initializing DirectX9
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.053 Creating D3D Device
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Wed 10/25 22:24:54.083 DX9 max texture dimensions is 4096x4096
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.083 Max texture dimension was set as 4096 mine=8192 native=4096 vramlimit=394264576
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.085 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\background.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.141 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@12eda6f
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.144 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.288 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=720 h=576
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.291 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\diskbar-green-light.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.313 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1d7d58f
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.314 ImageUtils creating scaled masked copy width=75 height=75 mask=java.awt.geom.RoundRectangle2D$Float@e133da BufferedImage@1135cd9: type = 2 DirectColorModel: rmask=ff0000 gmask=ff00 bmask=ff amask=ff000000 IntegerInterleavedRaster: width = 75 height = 75 #Bands = 4 xOff = 0 yOff = 0 dataOffset[0] 0
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.316 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.323 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=75 h=75
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.323 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\diskbar-green-dark.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.325 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@2db73e
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.326 ImageUtils creating scaled masked copy width=75 height=75 mask=java.awt.geom.RoundRectangle2D$Float@174f478 BufferedImage@15e0163: type = 2 DirectColorModel: rmask=ff0000 gmask=ff00 bmask=ff amask=ff000000 IntegerInterleavedRaster: width = 75 height = 75 #Bands = 4 xOff = 0 yOff = 0 dataOffset[0] 0
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.326 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.329 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=75 h=75
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Wed 10/25 22:24:54.505 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
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Wed 10/25 22:24:54.537 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=256 h=256
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Wed 10/25 22:24:54.682 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:54.697 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=256 h=256
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Wed 10/25 22:24:55.060 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=256 h=256
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.061 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\hp_start.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.112 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@dd20b6
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.114 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.185 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=475 h=489
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.187 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\hover_my tv.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.193 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@18dabf1
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.193 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.203 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=162 h=225
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.204 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\button_close_nofocus.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.207 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1f49969
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Wed 10/25 22:24:55.240 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\hp_selectionbar.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.248 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@6a60d5
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.249 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.267 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=585 h=107
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.268 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\WeatherIcons\Images\26.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.272 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1035ff9
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.273 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:55.277 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=128 h=128
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Wed 10/25 22:24:58.960 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@1f0d7f5
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Wed 10/25 22:24:58.962 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=60 h=60
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.570 processOptionsMenu optionsMenu=default:null|OptionsMenu:MainMenuShutdownOptions
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.601 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\menu_list_focus.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.609 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@9a41d2
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.609 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.621 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=426 h=78
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.869 Rendered new font to cache font=java.awt.Font[family=Arial,name=Arial,style=bold,size=38] numGlyphs=1674 numCachedGlyphs=259 numImages=5
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.869 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.884 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=256 h=256
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.885 ImageUtils loading file G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageMCE\Images\menu_list_nofocus.png
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.890 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@d89e02
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.891 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.903 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=444 h=89
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.904 Premultiplying alpha for BuffImage...
Wed 10/25 22:24:59.918 Creating DirectX9 Texture from memory w=256 h=256
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.743 Removed system shell hook
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.743 Sage.exit() called.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.743 Cleaning up servers
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.743 Cleaning up PM
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.744 Enabled SS
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.744 Killed Carny.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.744 Killed Scheduler.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.746 VF processing job null nPlayin=false
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.746 Killed Seeker.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.747 VideoFrame thread is now exiting
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.747 Cleaning up c/s connection
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.748 Killed EPG.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.748 Connection lost from: null by:java.net.SocketException: socket closed
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.749 Saving properties file to G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\SageClient.properties
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.749 Cleaning up c/s connection
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.750 Killed MMC.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.750 NetworkManager CommunicationFailure : /127.0.0.1:42024 type=2
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.751 Killing UIMgr UIManager:localhost@@SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI-1549f94
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.752 Killed UI Timers
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.753 Killed VideoFrame
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.761 Killed EventRouter
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.904 MetaImage clearNativeCache nativeImageCacheSize=10977280
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.908 Cleaning up DirectX9
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.909 Doing full DX9 cleanup.
Wed 10/25 22:25:01.912 Done cleaning up DirectX9
Wed 10/25 22:25:02.642 Error communicating with server:java.io.EOFException
Wed 10/25 22:25:02.642 Cleaning up c/s connection
Wed 10/25 22:25:02.643 NetworkManager CommunicationFailure : /127.0.0.1:42024 type=1
Wed 10/25 22:25:02.644 MsgRecv thread is terminating for /127.0.0.1:42024
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.141 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 750
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.762 Killed RootPanel
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.783 Disposed Window
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.784 Killed UIManager.
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.784 Killed Wizard.
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.785 Cleaning up c/s connection
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.801 Saving properties file to G:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\SageClient.properties
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.819 Bye-bye.
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.821 SageTV SHUTDOWN is activating!
Wed 10/25 22:25:03.891 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 1500

Hope this helps.


Miller

[dflachbart]

I am also seeing the problem but mine will load if you give it about 6 seconds. I am using the iTV theme and having Sage startup in Fullscreen. Here is my log. All I did was start SageTV and once the interface loaded (after about 6 seconds) I shut it down. I was using SageMC 6.2.0 when I imported and changed the theme to iTV then I upgraded to 6.2.0a and iTV was already my theme so I didnt import it again.

Theme - iTV (not the latest)
FSE - no
Java - 1.4.2_12
SageMC - 6.2.0a
Imports - Sleeptimer


Hope this helps.


Miller
Hi Miller,

thanks for the log, but I don't see anything wrong with it, nothing seems to be hanging ...

Dirk

[millers_35]

Yeah mine's not a big deal as it does load, I normally dont load it up in FS, just thought I would try it too see if I was seeing the same results. Other than that everything is great just got thru linking up the google videos :) Great work.

Miller

Edit: Oh yeah I almost forgot, just got my first Media Extender in da mail today.:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: Installation couldnt have been any easier. And I love it, there is a very small delay when changing screens but it is very minimal. One thing I was disappointed with was I bought it from Sage mainly because I wanted one that was branded with the SageTV logo etc... :( but oh well it was cheaper from Sage too I believe than what it would have cost me at pcalchemy + the license.

[geogecko]

Mine would never recover...well, I know I waited more than 6 seconds.

I'm using Java 1.6.0-rc99.

[MeInMaui]

Ok. I was able to reproduce the blackscreen/lockup problems. I think I've found the culprit. Please try the attached SageMC xml file and let me know how it goes. Thanks.

The only change is the temperature font size. I reduced it from 200 to 48 and the problems went away. They return if I increase the font size back up slightly (I tested 52). It seems that the black screen / hang occurs when sage has to scale the font down to fit the frame.

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

LOL, you would think that would be it, since that's about the only thing about the Weatherbar that has changed...funny bug though!

I'll try it tonight.

[Morgan111]

Hey, I just got it to happen too! Probably a different case then everybody else.

It was sluggish starting up, then I got a black screen, and then after abouta minute I was able to hear sluggish clicking when moving the cursor up and down. When I went to kill it with task manager, I found that acrobat was taking up 99% processor. Maybe something to think about if you might have something busy in the background processing files when Sage is started...

[dflachbart]

Ok. I was able to reproduce the blackscreen/lockup problems. I think I've found the culprit. Please try the attached SageMC xml file and let me know how it goes. Thanks.

The only change is the temperature font size. I reduced it from 200 to 48 and the problems went away. They return if I increase the font size back up slightly (I tested 52). It seems that the black screen / hang occurs when sage has to scale the font down to fit the frame.

Aloha,
Mike
Yeah, I suspected the same, was waiting for a final test confirmation from Carl... It's just weird that it only happens in some environments. Maybe it has to do with the fonts used and installed on your system ? I personally use Trebuchet for most of my Sage fonts (and could never reproduce the problem), I'll check if it makes a difference changing it to Arial when I get home ...

BTW: what are you doing up so late ?!? ;)

Dirk

[MeInMaui]

BTW: what are you doing up so late ?!? ;)

Yawn....

I couldn't sleep until the problem was solved, of course!

Now why is that coffee maker taking so darn long? It's taunting me....

:coffee:

[kricker]

So, how do you change fonts in Sage? I can see if it crashes my system, which is actually very stable right now.

[MeInMaui]

So, how do you change fonts in Sage? I can see if it crashes my system, which is actually very stable right now.

The fonts are defined in several places in the properties file. Scan down the file until you find the first font definition to see what you are currently using. Then you can do a search and replace to change to Arial.

Aloha,
Mike

[MeInMaui]

I tried changing the font and it didn't make any difference. Interestingly, switching 3D accelleration on and off seems to have an effect, but I haven't fully characterized it yet. I'll have to do some more testing when I have more time.

Aloha,
Mike

Edit: I might have jumped the gun on the fonts. Last night, the test xml file I posted worked using Arial with 3D accel. on. This morning, it did not work using the Trebuchet MS font. But if I turn off 3D accel., then it works again (still using Trebuchet). This is going to take a little time to sort out.

[kricker]

I do have 3d accel on. I can try it with it off later, when no one is using it.

[cbarrett]

I'm really new at customizing Sage, but this week I installed SageMC on top of v6 beta and was pleasantly surprised. Job well done.

So, I'm poking around both here on the forum and in the settings menu trying to get Google video back on my main menu, got as far as setting Custom Menu 1 to Google menu item, but didn't see it on the main menu...so I ran across something like "enable Nielm's dynamic menu" - thought I would try that. When I got back to the main menu I had "cannot find <some Java class>"..and I was absolutely stuck. I could exit sage (thankfully), but not much else. I've always felt like poking around in settings within Sage was a relatively safe thing to do (meaning all actions can be undone), but I was shocked that I could hose myself up so much (a possibility I definitely am aware of when I'm downloading stuff and unzipping stuff on top of my Sage installation). But to set a setting within the UI and then have the whole menu system hosed?? Seems like this needs a "Warning - you better know what you are doing" type of thing.

So, I knew I had never installed the nielm dynamic menus...so I found a link off of the wiki and attempted to install (which, very scary, seemed to overwrite a Sage .dtd menu file...and I had no idea if this stuff was v6 or MC compatible). Ran Sage and got more (and different) errors on the main page - recommending I go back to the original Sage STV, but...I don't know how to do that if I can't get off the main menu.

Wondering if I am totally hosed now, or is there someway to get me out of this hole? If I reinstall everything (Sage v6 beta, MC stuff, etc.) and I tell sage where to store tv recordings (i.e. where I currently have 100 GB of programs), will it recoup the programs that are already there, or will I lose them all?

[geogecko]

Shut down Sage all together, and open sage.properties in a text editor. Find the entry about nielm's dynamic menu (search for dynamic) and change it from true to false. Save and start Sage. That should get you back where you were before.

Then, on the main menu, either hit ESC or your "Options" button on your remote, scroll down to Custom 1, and enable it, scroll down to refresh menu, and then ESC or Options out again, and you should be set with your Google video.

[MeInMaui]

Ok. Take a deep breath. Shut down sage completely and open your sage.properties file (or sageclient.properties if you use the service) in the SageTV folder.

Find and change the following property:

mlbdude/dynamic_main_menu=false

Now look a few lines down from the top and find where the STV to be used is defined (it will be an XML file). Change the file name back to sagemc_169.xml. Save and start up sage. Everything should be back.

To place the google videos item on the main menu, assign it to Custom 1 (sounds like you already did) and rename Custom 1 to whatever you want (in SageMC Options under settings > Detailed Setup > Advanced Settings). Now go to the main menu and bring up the options menu (right click or esc). Scroll to Custom 1 and enable. Now exit the options menu. That should do it. Good luck!

Aloha,
Mike

Edit: Darn, it's hard to type one handed while holding a screaming baby. I just took too long.

[JDizzy]

so I ran across something like "enable Nielm's dynamic menu" - thought I would try that. When I got back to the main menu I had "cannot find <some Java class>"..and I was absolutely stuck.

Yeah, what up with that??!

Been there, done that...for some reason I never have been able to get the dynamic menus going...but I DO NOT want to hose my system again!

I hope geogecko and me in maui have the way back as it took me most of Sunday to finally get things back to normal.... :bang:
(of course, I usually don't ask for directons when I get lost either)
JD

BTW, you want the line to read: STV=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageMC_169.xml

[geogecko]

LOL, I tried to set it up too, a couple weeks ago, and got stuck in the same loop. That's why I knew how to get out of it.

I think it would be cool, but I just have not had the time to read up on how to set it up correctly. It looks like it could be a very powerful tool.

[cbarrett]

That did it. Will think twice before I go changing things I know nothnig about :) . And, now I know the secret file to edit if I do mess up a setting.

Thanks!!:clap:

[geogecko]

Glad you got it working.

My HTPC is out of commision now. I pulled my FusionHDTV card to replace it with a FusionHDTV USB, and upon trying to reboot, it won't even POST now. I've been at it for almost 3 hours, and I'm giving up...this happened once before, but after enough power cycles, the board finally started working again...not this time though.

If ASUS doesn't come through with a new motherboard...I doubt I will get it fixed. I'm just tired of jacking around with the thing. Almost every other week it's something.

Sorry to rant, I'm just ticked off...

[kricker]

3 hours...and you are already giving up, you got at least another 5 hour to go.....;) Actually I feel your pain, I really really do. I just built 2 identical HTPC, yet mine is running perfect and my Brother-in-laws has a problem every day...go figure!

[MeInMaui]

Glad you got it working.

My HTPC is out of commision now. I pulled my FusionHDTV card to replace it with a FusionHDTV USB, and upon trying to reboot, it won't even POST now. I've been at it for almost 3 hours, and I'm giving up...this happened once before, but after enough power cycles, the board finally started working again...not this time though.

If ASUS doesn't come through with a new motherboard...I doubt I will get it fixed. I'm just tired of jacking around with the thing. Almost every other week it's something.

Sorry to rant, I'm just ticked off...

I had almost the exact same problem with two separate computers. It turned out to be the power supply in both cases, even though at first it looked like a motherboard problem. It would start when I jumpered the start pin manually, but wouldn't when plugged into the motherboard (except once after power cycling about 20 times). If you have another PS available, give it a try. I can fill in more details via PM if you want.

Aloha,
Mike

[Kirby]

I had major issues with my HTPC as some of you might know, for the past few months. Finally ended up finding a bad DRAM. New memory installed and everything (XP, Sage 6.0.12, SageMC 6.2.0a and iTV 0.21) is running great. Given the headaches that I went through, I'm sorry to say I wont be testing anything else for a week or two! :) (Other than the new R5000 capture software that I am testing, and possibly another new tuner setup). Its just so refreshing to come home, start up the HT and see the Sage GUI still on the screen!!! Its a thing of beauty (spooky beauty with the Halloween graphics!)

[geogecko]

I've had more trouble with the HTPC computer, than with three other computers I've built.

I'm not positive, but I am still leaning towards the MB. I may go ahead and replace the PSU anyway, since I've grown to NOT be so fond of it (Antec Phantom 350), the thing just gets really hot.

Fry's only carries the Seasonic S12-650 or the M12-700, not really my best choices for a system that consumes less than 200W, nor the least expensive... It's either one of those, or waiting 3 days to get something online...maybe I can just do without my other PC for a few days...

Sorry for the thread hijack. I'll keep to myself from now on, anyone got any comments, just send me a PM.

[briands]

snip

Edit: Darn, it's hard to type one handed while holding a screaming baby. I just took too long.

:eek:

Holding your screaming baby... So that's what they're calling it now...

What message board did you THINK you were on?

Just kidding, how are the twins doing? Never saw any mention of the quake from you, everything OK?

[Kirby]

I hate to continue OT......Jason, you mentioned you put in a USB Fusion tuner... Have you tried booting without it installed? USB tuners draw a lot of power. I'd just be curious to know if you can POST and BOOT without the USB connected.

[MeInMaui]

:eek:

Holding your screaming baby... So that's what they're calling it now...

What message board did you THINK you were on?

Just kidding, how are the twins doing? Never saw any mention of the quake from you, everything OK?

:nono: :eek2: ... :p

lol. The twins are doing great. We moved them into their own room a few days ago and they have both started sleeping through the night. :clap: :dance:

We got a good shake up here with the quake, but there was no damage. The worst was that it took 4 hour before they got the power back on. The quote of the day was from our 2.75 yr old. He said, "Daddy, the house is wiggling!.....I don't like it."

Thanks for asking!

Ok, now we can return to our regularly scheduled topic. :D

Aloha,
Mike

[matrix35]

flachbar. thank you for all your work on sagemc. its really appreciated.

one thing though... maybe its been already answered in this thread but i can't seem to find any reference to it... is there gonna be a "Compress" command implemented soon to enable us to transcode our recording to other formats? (as in sagetv6)

thanks once again.

[JDizzy]

You know.... one thing I haven't figured out is why, when, using My Music, I can't seem to load up the Queue with songs....

I highlite a song, press Add To Queue, it says, Added To Queue (and you have to click to close popup) but when you check the Queue, it only has the song that is currently playing listed and once the song finishes, that's it....

Also, I can't seem to figure how to get an entire album to play all the songs top to bottom... it plays the first song and that's it.

Just another hurdle..
JD

[geogecko]

You know.... one thing I haven't figured out is why, when, using My Music, I can't seem to load up the Queue with songs....

I highlite a song, press Add To Queue, it says, Added To Queue (and you have to click to close popup) but when you check the Queue, it only has the song that is currently playing listed and once the song finishes, that's it....

Also, I can't seem to figure how to get an entire album to play all the songs top to bottom... it plays the first song and that's it.

Just another hurdle..
JD

Usually, if I go to album view, or artist view (then view the albums by that artist), all I have to do is click the "Play" button on the left, with the entire album songs listed at the right. If you go into the actual song, and then click play, it will only play that song, but if you remain in the album, with all songs showing, it will play the entire album.

[geogecko]

Oh, BTW, I'm back in business. Nothing a 550W PSU couldn't solve. Thanks for the moral support guys. Now where's that STV I'm supposed to be trying out... ;)

[kricker]

Oh, BTW, I'm back in business. Nothing a 550W PSU couldn't solve. Thanks for the moral support guys. Now where's that STV I'm supposed to be trying out... ;)WOOHOOO! One man makes it back...another goes down......my DualTV is looking like crap...looks like I'll be busy for a while ;)

[millers_35]

Think I may have found 1 small bug on the main menu. When using MCE style menu, when I select the "My Menu" item it doesnt display the little picture (little guy holding a newspaper looks like) to the right. When using the Sage style menus it displays properly. Tried poking around in studio but got lost very quickly :(

Miller

[geogecko]

WOOHOOO! One man makes it back...another goes down......my DualTV is looking like crap...looks like I'll be busy for a while ;)

Sorry to hear that! Is the DualTV, that Nvidia card?

[kricker]

yes it is......I am getting soooo tired of crappy nVidia drivers.

[geogecko]

yes it is......I am getting soooo tired of crappy nVidia drivers.

That's what I used to say about ATI video drivers...

Dirk.

I was checking out the compression features in the default STV. One thing I noticed that was lacking, was a way to schedule them in the "Series Settings." It seems only natural that you might want to always compress some shows, for instance, on an iPod or something. Another nice feature, might be to have all those go to a dedicated folder, so that some other program could load them into iTunes, and have them ready to go when you sync your iPod next...not that I even have a video iPod...just seems like were the feature needs to grow. Would the STV be able to handle that?

I can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve next...

[White94Cobra]

I've been fighting slow menus and stuttery video for the past week or so. I finally decided it was time for a total reinstall so I went back to the default STV and wrote down all of my settings for my tuners, import directories etc. While in the default STV I thought I'd look around (hadn't even looked at the v6 STV yet). Surprisingly the menus were lightning fast and video played back perfectly. If I go back to the v6.2.0a SageMC STV, menus are slow, I keep getting the spinning Sage logo, and video playback is spotty. Has anyone had this issue? I have grown to love SageMC but right now it has become unusable. I'm hoping a reinstall of Sage from scratch will help it along.

[geogecko]

On that system, it should always be lightning fast. I think it has a lot to do with Java. I've had SageMC be really fast at times, and really slow. Right now, it's in one of those slow ruts, where I get the spinning icon fairly often. I'm using Java 1.6.0 with the b99 snapshot.

Every once in a while, I'll play around with the version of Java, just haven't had time recently.

What source has the stuttering video? All of them, or just one in particular? It may not be a factor for all, but when one of my FusionHDTV5 Lite PCI cards was sharing the same IRQ with the video card, it stuttered frequently, both audio and video. Once I moved things around (the PVR-500 didn't seem to mind being on the same IRQ as the VGA card), it was fixed. You can find out in Device Manager, switch to Resources by Type view, and then look at IRQ's.

[dflachbart]

Think I may have found 1 small bug on the main menu. When using MCE style menu, when I select the "My Menu" item it doesnt display the little picture (little guy holding a newspaper looks like) to the right. When using the Sage style menus it displays properly. Tried poking around in studio but got lost very quickly :(

Miller

Hi Miller,

it works fine for me, in both styles. Do you have a "hove_my explorer.png" icon in your images directory ?


Dirk

[dflachbart]

On that system, it should always be lightning fast. I think it has a lot to do with Java. I've had SageMC be really fast at times, and really slow. Right now, it's in one of those slow ruts, where I get the spinning icon fairly often. I'm using Java 1.6.0 with the b99 snapshot.

I only have a Celeron with an old MX4000 running Sage Server and Client on my HTPC (at 1360x768), and the SageMC UI is as snappy as it could be, I very seldomly get the spinning icon. I also use java 1.6.0 latest snapshot which seems to be slightly faster than 1.4, but it also runs on java 1.4 just fine ...

One thing to try would be to increase the maximum java heap size for Sage in the registry. If you feel comfortable enough to do this, change

HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Frey Technologies/SageTV/JVMMaxHeapSizeMB to 256 or 512 decimal (512 should be fine if you have 2GB main memory)

Dirk

[dflachbart]

one thing though... maybe its been already answered in this thread but i can't seem to find any reference to it... is there gonna be a "Compress" command implemented soon to enable us to transcode our recording to other formats? (as in sagetv6)

thanks once again.
Hi matrix35,

I doubt it will be "soon" (development going slower these days), but it is definetly something which will be added to SageMC along the way. I've heard that 2-pass encoding will be added to the new upcoming beta, so I definetly won't look at this before that, too much could get changed again. Also, there is an 'alternative' compression project from a well known dev in progress which probably will be much better than the Sage Core stuff, we'll see ...

Dirk

[geogecko]

Hi Miller,

it works fine for me, in both styles. Do you have a "hover_my explorer.png" icon in your images directory ?


Dirk

;)

[geogecko]

I only have a Celeron with an old MX4000 running Sage Server and Client on my HTPC (at 1360x768), and the SageMC UI is as snappy as it could be, I very seldomly get the spinning icon. I also use java 1.6.0 latest snapshot which seems to be slightly faster than 1.4, but it also runs on java 1.4 just fine ...

One thing to try would be to increase the maximum java heap size for Sage in the registry. If you feel comfortable enough to do this, change

HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Frey Technologies/SageTV/JVMMaxHeapSizeMB to 256 or 512 decimal (512 should be fine if you have 2GB main memory)

Dirk

LOL, I only have 1GB main memory right now...are you telling me I must upgrade, I can tell the wife, if you tell me...:D

[dflachbart]

LOL, I only have 1GB main memory right now...are you telling me I must upgrade, I can tell the wife, if you tell me...:D
That was actually meant for White94Cobra with his 2GB ... ;)

But of course I'd help you with that, do you need this in writing for your wife ? :D Just dont tell her that I also only have 1GB ...


Dirk

[Kirby]

What is the default JVM heap size in Sage? I'm re-doing my HTPC right now (assembling the new parts) and I got 1GB of ram. I guess I should up the heap size to at least 256?

[dflachbart]

What is the default JVM heap size in Sage? I'm re-doing my HTPC right now (assembling the new parts) and I got 1GB of ram. I guess I should up the heap size to at least 256?
I believe the standard heap size in Sage is set to 128MB. With 1GB a heap size of 256MB should be no problem (that's what I did on my machine)

Dirk