View Full Version : New ATI board-SageTV will support?
gplasky
10-02-2003, 04:28 AM
Looks like ATI is coming out with a board with hardware MPEG-2 support on the board. Looks like this will fit very nicely with SageTV. Optional FM radio for the board too.
ATI E-Home Wonder (http://www.ati.com/products/ehome/index.html)
Designed to take advantage of WXP Media Center 2004, I think we need to take advantage of it too.
:jump:
Gerry
jmeeks
10-02-2003, 06:39 AM
Can you get this somewhere? Unless you can get it, what's the point of supporting it? Do you know what the price is/will be?
Narflex
10-02-2003, 10:44 AM
It should work correctly with the current version of Sage. Almost any card with the Conexant iVac16 chip on it should work fine (that's what it looks like it has).
Yes it is Conexant CX23416 (iTVC16) but the chip label is CX23416 - 12A so it must be a newer rev chip then PVR 250 now I'm shock at ATI I guest they couldn't make there own MPEG encoder chip.
The only other diff is A/V input which is 7Pin and FM support and a small foot print which is nice it even look smaller then the Yuan MPG600 but most like this going be OEM thing only but then again it be very interesting to see if ATI dose Retail.
I wonder what Video Digitizer and Audio Processor it has.
martinscorsese
10-03-2003, 02:15 PM
There is little info on the ATI site, but it talks about computer mfrs. being able to offer an ATI solution for XP MCE. My guess it is only an OEM product.
Crazedz
10-03-2003, 09:11 PM
Well i would wait to see if it shows up on newegg which seems to sell several other oem xp mce cards that supposably are only avialible by buying a mce machine.
One of the things i like about newegg.
Opps sorry that sounds like an add. Fogive me Jeff and Dan im so very sorry i didn't mean it really...... No seriously i didn't mean i........... "Post has been deleted by administrator."
Just kidding. :D
Seriously though i didn't mean it as anything like an addvertisment it was just an observation only.
stanger89
10-08-2003, 10:35 AM
It's available for sale on the ATI site, it's called the TV Wonder PRO.
Looking at the buy it now - ATI store ...
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Holy *explitive deleted* it's $69.
I checked pricegrabber and the version with the remote is available various places as well.
TV Wonder PRO has a Conexant CX23880 it not the same stanger89.
stanger89
10-08-2003, 03:59 PM
Darn, you beat me to it, I was hoping to catch my mistake first. I kind of got caught by the completely vague specification page. Oh well, saves me a little money I guess.
gplasky
10-08-2003, 06:40 PM
Bummer. :(
Gerry
sticky
10-08-2003, 06:43 PM
Should see them pop up on ebay tho.
jblade44
01-17-2004, 10:25 AM
I currently am using a AverStudio card and am unhappy with performance with SS BTW and would like to try Sage b4 making decision on what SW to buy...
Someone found a dealer in Toronto who is selling these ATI cards for 92.00 CDN... before driving over an hour to pick one up Monday I was wondering if they would work with Sage??.. they are MCE certified as per Microsoft and have the hardware encoder..... from what I hear we may see many of these OEM cards in the near future as ATI may be unloading them.......
What do you think?? Do you think they have a good chance of working with Sage??
JasonJoel
01-17-2004, 03:58 PM
Longterm, almost certainly. Right NOW, maybe/maybe not.
It depends on the design. There are a set of MCE cards that currently do NOT work on Sage TV (the AverMedia M150 is one of them).
It should be easy for Jeff to add support for them, but they may not work out of the box today.
Just to be fair, that new design class of card (like the Aver M150) don'twork with SS either...
Jason
Originally posted by jblade44
I currently am using a AverStudio card and am unhappy with performance with SS BTW and would like to try Sage b4 making decision on what SW to buy...
Someone found a dealer in Toronto who is selling these ATI cards for 92.00 CDN... before driving over an hour to pick one up Monday I was wondering if they would work with Sage??.. they are MCE certified as per Microsoft and have the hardware encoder..... from what I hear we may see many of these OEM cards in the near future as ATI may be unloading them.......
What do you think?? Do you think they have a good chance of working with Sage??
batorok
01-19-2004, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by jblade44
I currently am using a AverStudio card and am unhappy with performance with SS BTW and would like to try Sage b4 making decision on what SW to buy...
Someone found a dealer in Toronto who is selling these ATI cards for 92.00 CDN... before driving over an hour to pick one up Monday I was wondering if they would work with Sage??.. they are MCE certified as per Microsoft and have the hardware encoder..... from what I hear we may see many of these OEM cards in the near future as ATI may be unloading them.......
What do you think?? Do you think they have a good chance of working with Sage??
If it has the encoder chip SHS mentions, it should work with sagetv. If you are headed to buy one, would you be willing to pick up an extra one for me? Or buy one for me and I'll test it for you for sagetv? 92$ Canadian is quite a deal for a hardware mpeg2 encoder.
jblade44
01-20-2004, 05:31 PM
Well.. I picked up the card today and it has the Conexant CX23416-12A (iTVC16) ...sorry I did not see your post earlier about picking up an extra card... anyway the guy jacked the price already to 109.00 CDN so you may not have wanted it. He said he is getting loads of inquiries on them from all over North America
http://www.computerlinksystems.com/index.php
and another shop in T.O. has it for 102.00 Cdn
http://razorcomputers.net/database3.asp#8
It does not want to work with Snapstream... does not see the video in...
I tried it with Sage and it works perfectly...CPU less than 20%..happy days...
I am going to load MEC2004 and see how I like it and then choose between SageTv and MCE, hopefully by the time I decide SageV2 will be released....
JasonJoel
01-20-2004, 06:32 PM
Good to know...
Like I said some of the new style MCE cards do NOT work with either program (even though they have Conexant iTVC16 chips also).
So it is GREAT to hear that this one does work with Sage TV!!!
Jason
Originally posted by jblade44
It does not want to work with Snapstream... does not see the video in...
I tried it with Sage and it works perfectly...CPU less than 20%..happy days...
Originally posted by jblade44
Well.. I picked up the card today and it has the Conexant CX23416-12A (iTVC16) ...sorry I did not see your post earlier about picking up an extra card... anyway the guy jacked the price already to 109.00 CDN so you may not have wanted it. He said he is getting loads of inquiries on them from all over North America
http://www.computerlinksystems.com/index.php
and another shop in T.O. has it for 102.00 Cdn
http://razorcomputers.net/database3.asp#8
It does not want to work with Snapstream... does not see the video in...
I tried it with Sage and it works perfectly...CPU less than 20%..happy days...
I am going to load MEC2004 and see how I like it and then choose between SageTv and MCE, hopefully by the time I decide SageV2 will be released....
Questions:
1. Is it the 15 or 16 generation Conexant chip?
2. There seems to be 2 RF connectors on it. Is there 2 tuners?
3. Did they have more in stock?
Thanks.
batorok
01-20-2004, 07:30 PM
glad to hear it works, very sad to see the price jump. Now they're 109$ canadian, may as well look for a used hauppauge that comes with a remote and support.
jblade44
01-20-2004, 08:11 PM
Not sure if it is a 15 or 16 chip.. How do I tell??
They do have more but I would call them 1st as they are selling fast..
One of the RF connectors is for FM radio...
One thing I found and I am not sure if it is the installation or the card causing this (this is my 1st install of Sage)
When you go to the Multimedia tab there is nothing in the recording qualities pulldown.. all greyed out..nothing to select
This means I cannot change the quality.... I did a search on this forum and tried editing the properties file as others have but I still have no recording qualities after saving the .txt file and restarting Sage?? Come to think of it I did not see anything in my properties file for any settings...
Is it the card or something that I can fix??
Opus4
01-20-2004, 08:19 PM
What would be really nice is if one of these TV/FM tuner combination cards would allow you to use both TV and FM at the same time, so you could listen to the radio w/o interfering with TV recording going on in the background.
- Andy
Oh that eazy Opus4 THINK DUAL TUNER
Opus4
01-20-2004, 11:00 PM
Yeah, but my dual tuner solution is to use a separate FM tuner card. :) The problem with that is it is an ISA card which won't be usable whenever I upgrade the machine & Dlink no longer make their USB FM tuner. I don't know if there are any other USB or PCI FM-only products.
Anytime the FM tuner is on the TV card & the FM/TV tuners can't be use at the same time, it isn't a feasible card to use, since no matter how many of them you have installed, it means one card can't be used to record TV if FM is in use. To me, dual TV cards are for simultaneous recordings.
Sorry for getting the thread off track. Oh, wait: it isn't off track if this ATI card can use its TV & FM tuners simulataneously... which I doubt. But it would be nice if it could.
- Andy
You rigth but that idea with DUAL tuner so can get round some of that problem
Well FM only products in the UK that eazy http://modulartech.com/
DAB Digital Radio PCI card
USB FM Radio
I don't know any card that can do both TV & FM tuning simulataneously on one card.
Opus4
01-21-2004, 08:49 PM
That's funny -- their USB FM radio looks just like my D-Link DSB-R100, except that theirs has an opaque case rather than a transparent one. (The plastic case even has the same shape.) I guess it is still in production _somewhere_.
- Andy
jblade44
02-01-2004, 11:43 AM
I still have not been able to get the recording quality working with this card with 1.4.10 despite the patience and support from SHS via email (thanks again).
I have heard that it should work with SageV2 however I cannot test it without buying it and I do not want to buy it without making sure it works.....
I have been using MCE and it does not have serial support so I cannot change channels, although it doe have good PQ and nice GUI. I am waiting the arrival of the ATI RW to try and get it working with MCE(I bought the ATI RW since it is said to work will all 3 apps MCE,Sage and Snapstream)
I cannot make a decision on which app I will use permantly untill I get it to work with all 3 and then compare from there....
I will not purchase a program until I am sure that it is going to work with all features of software enabled
jblade44
02-03-2004, 11:47 AM
Since my last post I did more reading and have cancelled the Order fro the ATI remote and have ordered the MCE remote. The reason is that The ATI cannot control my STB with MCE and the Phillips MCE remote will work with all applications (I have serial connection for Sage and BTV)
I sill have not made a decision on what SW I am going with. I will await v2 release (hopefully soon) and the BTV 3.5 release b4 I make my final decision
Does nayone know how close they are to offering up Sage V2 for download to the general public??
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