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What are people using to connect Sky Digibox to Sage PC? I'm currently in basic SD sky with a scart output on my box. Apprently s-video is not supported so I'm sunning composite out to composite in on a Hauppage HVR-1300.
The picture coming through to the sage client PC is poor. Very crushed with poor colours, low dynamic range and high contrast.
Anyone got any means of getting a better quality input to the the Sage box?
Peter
harryf
01-26-2008, 01:15 AM
I am in the process of getting my setup to work and I have a Sky box connected to a PVR-150 using composite and the picture is ok. The Sky box is a Thomson supplied by Sky and it also has no s-video output, but the only difference I notice on my TV between RGB and composite is that text is not so clear with composite. Maybe it is a setup problem with your capture card.
I use the scart output from the digibox through a convertor which has composite outputs on it. That connects to a pvr350 composite inputs. The picture quality is fine.
Whats your recording quality set to? I have mine set to Best, which is 3GB/hr.
motobarsteward
01-27-2008, 06:37 AM
I have a couple of RGB to S-Video converters. They are not cheap but hey work well.
The web site for these converters is....
www.rgbtosvideo.com
I do have a problem that the the MoBo that I use causes interference on one analogue channel of my capture card.
You will also need to change channels, and for that, you will need to get a usbuirt, www.usbuirt.com
I use the scart output from the digibox through a convertor which has composite outputs on it. That connects to a pvr350 composite inputs. The picture quality is fine.
Whats your recording quality set to? I have mine set to Best, which is 3GB/hr.
Thanks for the responses all.
I have the same setup to my HVR-1300 component input but the picture looks like muck. i have the record quality set to the max (5GB/s?). My TV is correctly calibrated (using Avia) and DVDs played through Sage Media Center look great (have to use overlay though as I get significant tearing in VMR9 on a Intel G35 -> Hdmi set-up).
Anyway, no amount of tweaking of Hauppage input colour calibration is giving me a picture remotely approaching that of the RF output of the Digibox directly into the TV.
Might try one of the RGBs -> S-Video adaptors referenced. (have USBUirt).
Peter
Guys
I've attached a screengrab of what I'm getting off my setup. Thoughts?
I consider it poor: soft and lacking in detail. Very contrasty with poor colour. I would appreciate peoples thoughts.
Peter
Mark SS
01-27-2008, 02:12 PM
DVB-S card, dragon CAM - pretty much as good as it gets.
DVB-S card, dragon CAM - pretty much as good as it gets.
MArk
Is there a detailed step-by-step guide anywhere for setting that up. Anything I've come-across so far has been exceptionally dense, filled with Jargon or has knowledge expectations beyond me.
Thanks
Peter
Well, I figured it out.
Thanks to some tips in this thread;(http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9866&highlight=colorbars), I set about a full system recalibration. For posterity;
1. Using AVAI (http://www.ovationmultimedia.com/avia.html) and THX Optimiser, I calibrated the HDMI input on my Sony TV via my xbox360 HDMI out. Once set, these controls remained untouched.
2. Next, I plugged my HTPC (sage client box) into the HDMI input and calibrated the video card using display control panel. Again, once set, controls remain locked.
3. Next, I fired up sage client and calibrated DVD playback via overlay using video card overlay controls (avai & thx)
4. Finally, I plugged a DVD player composite out into HVR-1300 composite in and did a source colour calibration, again using avia & thx.
The sky picture via sage is now pristine and DVDs as excellent as well. Yum.
Peter
Hyperbaric
01-29-2008, 03:30 AM
I'm using Sky SD via RGB scart to Sweetspot RGB capture card. My system struggles a bit if recording / watching several sources, but PQ is not too bad. Unfortunately, the latest versions of Sage don't work with this card.
PQ using Dscaler with this set up is top-notch.
DVB-S card is the way to go.. there is also a firewire adaptor that can be used but there has been so little feedback here on its succesful application.
bartley9
01-29-2008, 06:53 AM
Meep,
When I saw your "before" screen capture I thiught you were winding us up. It looks exactly like mine does and I am quite happy with it.
Can you give a screen shot of the current image quality so that I can decide if I want to go through the hassle of reconfiguring my set-up.
Thanks,
Bartley.
Here you go. Cannot upload the same frame as it's a TV capture.
Hope you can see some improvement here. You will, of course, miss any enhancement/degredation i see based on my TV settings and if your display device is incorrectly calibrated, the attachment may not look exactly as I see it.
Howvwer, you should note from this better colour balance, better shadow detail and wider range of colours.
Peter
bartley9
02-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Fair enough. I suppose I just have fairly low expectations. Thanks for taking the time to load it up.
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