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heffneil
11-09-2010, 04:46 PM
Guys I have a windows server running Sage latest release. I have had problems since 6.x where sometimes the process will not die. I have to hard reboot the server in order to get things back to normal. What is interesting is that prior to this I can get around in the menus for the interface but I can't play any movies. I didn't know things were broken and none of my shows recorded last night!!! I am in the process of pre-clearing a drive on my unraid server from a terminal session so I can't reboot the server. Kinda sucky as prime time programming approaches! I have tried kill and other programs but none of them can kill the one process. When I attempt to reboot the server can't even shut down the process. It just hangs at a blank blue screen. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I suspect it has something to do with my HDPVR and logs from sage sent to support suggested a bad HD PVR but I don't know how that can be when it works 95% of the time...
And I didn't know how a HD PVR can cause the process to be totally unresponsive and never die!
Any feedback or suggestions are appreciated!
Thanks,
Neil
What are you server specs (amount of RAM in particular)?
vividweb
11-09-2010, 08:04 PM
I have Server2003 as well and have experienced a lot of service hangs, where the Sage Service Control cannot shut it down. A reboot or even and end process will shut it down and let me continue.
I find that if my service gets up over 930,000 kb it will usually hang. I have tried increasing the heap size above 300 (768), but then sage is very unstable. If I stop and start the service every couple of days it helps.
Not ideal, but haven't tried looking for any other solutions.
This is just a suggestion, but try disabling PAE (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46074).
You don't have much RAM on your system (only 1 gig) so you are using your paging file a lot. This may be causing some instability issues with your HVR drivers (guessing). When I first started to use my HVR-2250 with Windows 2003 I had major issues and after a lot of research and testing I discovered issues with how the Hauppauge drivers are coded and Windows 2003 PAE specs.
vividweb
11-09-2010, 08:14 PM
I need to update my signature. I have 2GB of RAM, but still on the low side.
I have been very stable on the latest drivers for over a week, just the sagetvservice.exe will hang if it gets up to the max of the heap.
2GB of RAM should be fine. A lot of SageTV users only use 2 GB of RAM.
Have you tried updating to the latest version of Java (while the SageTV service is stopped)?
vividweb
11-09-2010, 08:17 PM
Yep, usually have the latest version of Java installed.
I have hijacked heffneil's thread.
heffneil
11-11-2010, 03:22 PM
Sorry to take so long to get back I have 10 gigs of memory in this machine.
I am thinking of running sage in virtual machine just to see if I can get it to become isolated.
JVM Max Memory
1,013,632 M
JVM Allocated Memory
811,692 M
JVM Total Free Memory
412,423 M
Those are my current numbers. I am running the latest version of Java. Every time it says there is an update I am quick to update!
Any other suggestions? I never really monitored JVM mem usage at crash! I will check next time it happens. I am sure it is a crappy java garbage collection problem. It always is with Java :)
Glad to find out I am not alone!
Thanks,
Neil
heffneil
11-11-2010, 03:29 PM
No problem Hijacking! This is a place to get help and it might be helping others and me at the same time. I just disable the PAE kernel and we will see what happens!
Thanks,
Neil
barney B.A.
11-11-2010, 05:23 PM
I would try manually uninstalling all versions of Java from the add/remove program wizard, then download the offline installer for the latest ver. of Java. Intall it and try again. I have had bad upgrades to java before and this process seems to get java working again.
vividweb
11-12-2010, 07:46 AM
My process hang has gone away. I left the process going for the last week and it restarted without hang this morning.
I rebuilt my properties file a week ago to try and fix issues I was having with HD-PVR's. If you have been using Sage for a long time it might be worthwhile to let Sage rebuild the properties file from scratch.
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