STV: nielm combo STV (v1.8 Oct 19)

[nielm]

This is a bit of a combination of a lot of people's work and apart from the new features I have added, includes items from the mlbdude 2, and malore's STVs.

The new big features are: fully customisable menu system that can launch external programs, complete weather reporting suite (including animated images), an RSS news reader, an integrated IMDB, improved screen saver and ability to set default padding.

Go to Nielm STV page (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/) for more information screenshots and download.

Supplemental information can be found on the Sage Community wiki (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStv). Feel free to add more information!

Any problems, please post here!

feature list
OriginalV2 STV-based
Mlbdude-2 style main menu with context icons and video window
Fully customizable main menu with ability to run external programs
Mlbdude-style recording schedule on main menu (with color coded borders+listeners)
Graphical disk space used and disk space required indicator
RSS news feed reader with ability to launch web browser
Weather reporting suite with full Weather.com integration, multiple location support and ability to display animated images
Mlbdude-2 weather viewer for backward compatibility (needs mlbdude2 STV installed)
Mlbdude-style folder based video library with folder.jpg icons and info.my metadata
Enhanced standard Music library with folder.jpg icon support
Optional: Mlbdude-style folder based music library
Malore's custom EPG views
IMDB search button on detailed information pages
(v1.2) Constrain favourite to timeslot
(v1.2) mlbdude2 beta automatic recompression (http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?postid=50032#post50032) (UNTESTED!)
(v1.3) malore's commercial skip (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/ComSkip) (UNTESTED)
(v1.3) malore's closed captioning support (UNTESTED)
(v1.3) malore's Upcomming Favourites
(v1.3) Mlbdude's updated Guide screens: Browse by Station/Category/Upcomming movies (rightclick/options in TV Guide)
(v1.3) Mlbdude's updated 2-pane SageRecordings views
(v1.6)Updated screen saver: smooth movement, fading, truly random, user-customisable image
(v1.6)Added ability to set default padding for new favourites/manual recordings
(v1.6)Integrated IMDB search
(v1.8)Experimental semi-transparent OSD in Overlay


Credits
Thanks to mlbdude, malore and salsbst whos work I have blatantly copied :)
Thanks to EsatzTom for the hosting
Uses code from the rsslib4j (http://rsslib4j.sf.net/) project


History

V1.0 -- 25 Aug 2004:

V1.1 -- 26 Aug 2004:
STV fix only -- fixed URL in Yahoo news feeds
changed web hosting from my dodgy belgian ISP to sage-community.org (thaks ErsatzTom)

V1.2 -- 26 Aug 2004:
STV fix only --
Fixed 'Watch Now' for video file
Added Favourite limit by Timeslot
Added (UNTESTED) mlbdude2 beta automatic recompression (http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?postid=50032#post50032)

V1.3 -- 21 Sept 2004
Bugfixes: Main menu rec-shecd: corrected clickability.
IMDB search corrected to search airing name
Malore menus font size handling fixed
Malore menus options dialog fixed
Fixed menu title font on archived recordings menu
In Weather screens, STOP button/CloseFile command takes you back to the main menu
Reworked upcomming recordings widget to make date/time have more room
Java update: corrected minor bug in rss newsreader (HTML not decoded correctly)
New Features: Auto-Adjusting number of displayed main menu items (between 6/7 and 9/10 (depending on whether recording schedule is visible)
new menu "Upcoming Favorites by malore" added
Closed captioning by malore added (UNTESTED)
commercial skip by malore added (UNTESTED)
Added First run logo to airings (icons zipfile update)
added "Easy Search - Title" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search - Person" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search -- All" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search -- Description" to main menu internal screens
Added mlbdude menu: "BrowseByStation CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "SageRecordings w/ Optional Preview & AutoCategories Two Pane Vert CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "SageRecordings w/ Optional Preview & AutoCategories Two Pane Hor CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "Upcoming Movies - CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "BrowseByCategoryTitle by CSM - New"
V1.4 -- 28 Sept 2004
Bugfixes: Fixed bug of mlbdude SageRecordings menus where selecting a playing video would not go to full-screen...
Fixed bug of malore custom views panels getting unsynchronised.
Fixed non-responsive 'Browse by Category/Station' views
Improved ComSkip startup (may need comskip 0.31)New Features: Added dynamic menu option DontScaleItems to limit menus to 6/7 items per page
Added Commercial skip to file detailed info page -- no longer need to use Malore recordings menu for comskip!
Added option to start comskip in a minimised window for debugging (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStvComSkip): nielm/comskip_debug_output=true
Playback with Commercial skip and .smi Closed captions should now work also for .avi files (commercial detect still needs the original .mpg)
Removed redundant 'Malore menus options' in detailed setup/enhancements
Weather report suite Rotan views now support up to 10 layers
(java update) Improved RSS newsreader so that it now reads the RSS2 feed of this forum (http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss2)
v1.5 30 Sept 2004
Bugfixes: Fixed bug where commercial detect in background didn't work
V1.6 -- 14 Oct 2004
Bugfixes: Fixed bug in mlbdude sage recordings showing preview if Video preview == never
Included bugfix from salsbst where WRS got stuck on an image
Allowed disabling of background commercial processing without needing to restart Sage
New Features: Added ability to set the frame rate (required for commercial skip) (detailed setup->enhancements)
Improved screen saver: smooth movement, fading, truly random, user-customisable image (Properties file: nielm/screensaver_logo)
Added ability to set default padding for new favourites/manual recordings (detailed setup->enhancements)
Added new internal screen name: "Setup Wizard - Summary Page"
Integrated IMDB search (internal screen name "Imdb Search")
Enabled shadowing on text of WRS
V1.8 -- 18 Oct 2004
Bugfixes: Ability to disable the smooth scrolling screen saver (detailed setup->enhancements)


New Features: Experimental semi-transparent OSD when using the Overlay renderer (detailed setup->enhancements)
ability to remove some of the commands on Recording Detailed Info screen (see properties file nielm/detailview/*)
ability to run a custom command on a recording (see properties file nielm/detailview/custom_command*)
improved background updating of newsfeeds (they all update simultaneously now)
WRS now has network timeouts (thanks salsbst)

[mikejaner]

Hey!!!

Am I the only one without Studio now?!?!?
I am seeing more and more people putting out STV's. I'm beginning to think I missed an announcement or something.

LOL

[salsbst]

Looks great, nielm! Will try it out when I return from vacance.

[heffe2001]

I'm DEFINITELY gonna give this a try sometime this week, the weather stuff looks awesome :).

[mikejaner]

I have been testing it for the last hour, and I have to say this is a great skin. I love the weather stuff. I especially like the fact that you have it configured it for DC by default. Anyways, no bugs as of yet, which means you have been very careful with your construction of this skin. Good work, and thanks for your time and effort!!

[chrysek]

awesome, looks pretty cool :) I must say you've done a great job!!!!

If you would also include commercial skip feature this would rock and roll :)

Anyway I did install it on my client pc and it looks very very cool...

[nielm]

Thanks all...

You can thank salsbst for the DC default config -- I am in Belgium!

I don't have any plans yet to include commercial skip (nor mlbdude recompression) as I do not use it myself, and I am not sure how it works! You could always ask malore to include my features in his STV :)

[nielm]

There is now a wiki for this STV (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStv) where supplemental information can be added.

The source code for the java classes can be found at
http://www.sf.net/projects/sageplugins/

If anyone wants to make a GUI for building the menu XML (it is beyond my java skills), the sagemenu java classes already contain code for writing their own XML, so 'all' you need to build is the GUI front-end for editing them :)

[chrysek]

After using your STV on my client PC I must say its great, it is awesome, what I like is the ease of usage, Watch TV on the first menu, then when you are watching something you get a menu with so many options, you can go right to the place you want to go, very very accesible for usage. Loving it...

Seriously I'm loving it.... If it only had commercial skip in addition to all the other features it would simply be da best STV :)

Once again, thanks for this great STV!!!!

[tcdrake]

Looks great! Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for your hard work!

[littlerm]

Wow, it looks great! Is there any chance that you will be adding malore's commercial advance?

[edbmdave]

Two questions.

One, do you support the changing of the image file name for folder.Jpg like MlbDude did? (This prevents the folder.jpgs from showing up as images in the Imported Pictures, I renamed my folder.img).

Two, Did you (by chance) grab the protion of the Beta MLBDUDE2 skin that allows for Compression of files?

Thanks

[nielm]

1) the folder.jpg file name is set in the properties file (library_image=folder.jpg), so if that it what you mean, yes I probably support it (not actually tested it yet though)

2) no -- I only took certain screens from the MLBdude2/malore skins, so no compression stuff, nor commercial skip (which is why they don't appear in the feature list).

[Opus4]

A tip regarding images: SageTV will not add hidden images to the picture library. So, an alternative is to set the hidden attribute for image files you don't want added to the lib. Ex: When you use Windows Media Player to rip music CDs, all of the image files it adds are hidden & thus are not in the lib.

- Andy

[edbmdave]

Originally posted by nielm
1) the folder.jpg file name is set in the properties file (library_image=folder.jpg), so if that it what you mean, yes I probably support it (not actually tested it yet though)

Thanks. Perfect will test it.

2) no -- I only took certain screens from the MLBdude2/malore skins, so no compression stuff, nor commercial skip (which is why they don't appear in the feature list).

Thanks. Did not know if you might have grabbed it as part of the section you copied or not...

One More Question: is the IMDB lookup just an additional screen or will it create and populate the info.my file for that movie? (THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!)

[DFranch]

Looks really good. I can't wait to get home and try it out.

[ellweber]

Nielm,

I can't sem to get to your links. I've tried several different computers and browsers (PC/Mac, Mozilla IE...) and none of them can get to any ...brutele.be URL, yours or any others I have tried.

The message I get back from the failed link is: "The operation timed out when attempting to contact homeusers.brutele.be."

Am I the only one having this problem? What silly little thing am I overlooking? Who's on first? Help!!!

Thanks,

Lynn

[trevorst]

I loaded it today and the text in the recordings menu is to large on my setup. each line overlasps the one below by about 30%.

[Booboo]

Well done, Nielm
I love the skin. I am having one issue. WHen I play a file from the imported Video Library (clicking Watch Now), it appears in the upper right hand corner and cannot be changed. In Mlbdude 2, when I click on Watch Now, it would open the player in full screen (like the DVD one). Any ideas? THanks.

[Crim]

I just got it to work (freak'in great BTW) but I'm messing around with the Weather module, I'm trying to get it to work with Boulder Colorado USA like how it works with Washington DC.

My question is if theres an easy way to config this? If not then thats cool, I'll figure it out with alittle more work. :)

Great job on this, only problem is that I'm also working with MLBDUDE2's Beta Compression skin so it's kind of hard to loss a useful feature. :(

[kny3twalker]

your menu link at the bottom of the STV page
gives a 404 error

weather suite looks fine

I will give it a go this weekend

[RenHoek]

I'm probably missing something easy, but I can't get the RSS feeds to work.

I've added several Yahoo feeds, and the basic text is shown, but when the browser is launched, it just goes here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2
->>Document Not Found

Also, at first I was using Firefox as my default browser, but it'd "bonk" with an error message that it couldn't find the page as well. I switched back over to IE, but still no love...

any thoughts?

Thx-
RenHoek

[Grey_Goose]

wow, very nice. the customizable menus & diskspace is EXACTLY what i was looking for!

[ukmgranger]

Nice one nielm! :)
Been checking it out all morning - it works great!

Now all I need is a web browser that works with my remote for all the new browser-based things.

Cheers dude

[nielm]

Originally posted by trevorst
I loaded it today and the text in the recordings menu is to large on my setup. each line overlasps the one below by about 30%. Which menu do you mean?

If you mean one of the submenus of the main menu, then the font size is determined by the property: ui/heading_font_size with a default of 28

If you mean the Sage Recoridngs screen (showing recorded files), there are 3 different ones (determined by the settings in detailed setup/enhancements/malores menus options)...

Malores' one uses the defined font size in that options menu (properties setting multimenu_fontsize, default 16).

Mlbdudes 2-pane one, and the default single pane one are the identical menus to the OriginalV2 skin, so you should also have this problem there. The font size is determined by the properties file setting ui/base_font_size with a default of 18.

[nielm]

Originally posted by ukmgranger
Now all I need is a web browser that works with my remote for all the new browser-based things.
Opera is very keyboard-friendly, and has the ability to zoom in (+) and out (+) on a page (which is why I use it!) and is fast to start-up

I have a girder GML that does some minor Opera commands (attached), pre-configured for an ATI RW.

[nielm]

Originally posted by edbmdave
One More Question: is the IMDB lookup just an additional screen or will it create and populate the info.my file for that movie? (THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!) It launches a web browser (sorry!)...

For software that can generate info.my for movies and folder.jpg for both CDs and movies see Gotcha Covered Pro (http://www.gotchacoveredonline.com/)

[nielm]

Originally posted by Crim
[Weather module]
My question is if theres an easy way to config this? If not then thats cool, I'll figure it out with alittle more work. :)
Edit the weatherconfig.xml :)

It is well commented, and there are hints in the installation instructions and wiki (see first post for links), but finding weather images sources is your own problem :)

If anyone has any more tips, please add them to the wiki.

[nielm]

Originally posted by ellweber
I can't sem to get to your links. I've tried several different computers and browsers (PC/Mac, Mozilla IE...) and none of them can get to any ...brutele.be URL, yours or any others I have tried.
Now hosted on sage-community.org (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv) :)

[nielm]

Originally posted by RenHoek
I'm probably missing something easy, but I can't get the RSS feeds to work.
I've added several Yahoo feeds, and the basic text is shown, but when the browser is launched, it just goes here:

There was a bug in the command line that meant it barfs with Yahoo's feeds that have a '&' in the URL.

Fixed STV -- new nielm_stv.zip uploaded (see first post for URL)

[nielm]

Updated to version 1.1
STV fix only -- fixed URL in Yahoo news feeds
changed web hosting from my dodgy belgian ISP to sage-community.org (thaks ErsatzTom)


As this is an STV fix only, you only need to download and unzip the STV zipfile (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/nielm_stv.zip)

[Booboo]

When watching a video from the Import Video Library, I click Watch Now and it does not show Full Screen. When I use MlbDude2's interface, clicking Watch Now it shows me in Full screen automatically. The only way that I found to show it in Full Screen in Nielm's STV is to click Watch Now and go to the Main Menu and click View TV and it brings it up in Full screen. Is there anyway to make it show Full Screen when I click Watch Now in the Video Library? Thanks,

[nielm]

Updated to version 1.2
STV fix only
Fixed 'Watch Now' for video file
Added Favourite limit by Timeslot
Added (UNTESTED) mlbdude2 beta automatic recompression (http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?postid=50032#post50032)

As this is an STV fix only, you only need to download and unzip the STV zipfile (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/nielm_stv.zip)

For the auto recompression, I *think* I have everything from the MLBdude2 beta STV, but I may have missed something. As I don't do recompression myself, would those that do please ensure that it is working :)

WARNING: I am on holiday for 2 weeks tomorrow! Any bugs found after today will have to wait!

[nielm]

Originally posted by Booboo
Well done, Nielm
I love the skin. I am having one issue. WHen I play a file from the imported Video Library (clicking Watch Now), it appears in the upper right hand corner and cannot be changed. Oops!
Fixed in 1.2

[RenHoek]

Thanks for the speedy update, Neil! I figured it was an issue with Yahoo's links, 'cuz after I posted I tried other sites and they worked fine.

BTW - This skin's AWSOME! Thanks for all the fish! :goodjob:

(I stayed up WAAAAAYYYYYY too late last night playing with it....)



BTY, Trevorst:

Originally posted by trevorst
I loaded it today and the text in the recordings menu is to large on my setup. each line overlasps the one below by about 30%.

I had that same problem. My font for that screen was set to 16. I bumped it up to 18 and now all's well. :jump:

-RenHoek

[Crim]

Originally posted by nielm
Edit the weatherconfig.xml :)

It is well commented, and there are hints in the installation instructions and wiki (see first post for links), but finding weather images sources is your own problem :)

If anyone has any more tips, please add them to the wiki.

Thanks. I've been going through the config file so I feel comfortable with that, its really an issue of finding the right images for each category.

[dagar]

WARNING: I am on holiday for 2 weeks tomorrow! Any bugs found after today will have to wait!

You tease :eek2:

[Booboo]

Thanks for the fix... happy holidays:)

[JUC]

Love the skin, I updated to the newest version you have posted but I can't find any options to enable mlbdude's compression. Usually, if you are on the info page of a recordings it is on the list on the left side of the screen. I see no options. Also, I couldn't find a way to enable, or disable it in the advanced section. Am I missing something?
thanks
JUC

[JUC]

woops, got it working. I somehow managed to paste the updated STV in the wrong location:) It works great now. The weather feature is awesome. The only thing I am having trouble getting used to is the main page. It seems somewhat cluttered with the vertical line running between the options and the preview window (which is a little small too). I quess I am just used to mlbdude's clean looking main page. All in all, this is the best feature set STV yet. Thanks a bunch and.....can' t wait till studio is available to all.
JUC

[nielm]

Originally posted by JUC
The only thing I am having trouble getting used to is the main page. It seems somewhat cluttered with the vertical line running between the options and the preview window (which is a little small too).

The preview window is the same size/position as on all the other screens where it is available. This is deliberate -- some low-power machines (my via EPIA M10000 for instance) get upset when they have to resize the video overlay window...

I know what you mean about the cluttered look... I was copying the original style, but with all the widgets, it gets a bit too much...

[Gaurav]

great job!!

However, The up/down buttons don't seem to work while watching tv.

Just to make sure, i switched back to mlbdude.stv and the up/down show the popup epg. When i switched to nielm.stv, the up/down button stopped working again.

[nielm]

Originally posted by Gaurav
However, The up/down buttons don't seem to work while watching tv.

Just to make sure, i switched back to mlbdude.stv and the up/down show the popup epg. When i switched to nielm.stv, the up/down button stopped working again. I have not taken everything from the Mlbdude STV... One of the things I have not taken is the enhanced OSD with mini-guide, which is why you don't see the popup EPG.
I do intend to add it at some point because I like Mlbdudes OSD, it was just that I wanted to release soon enough before I went on holiday to catch the major bugs!

[buck1952]

Time to have some fun with Sage
I especially like the menu.xlm
Good job; Mike

http://myweb.cableone.net/buckleys/public/sage.gif

[JUC]

Originally posted by nielm
I know what you mean about the cluttered look... I was copying the original style, but with all the widgets, it gets a bit too much...

I think if you just eliminated the box around the menu items on the menu page that it might look a little cleaner
-glad you will be incorporating the mini guide too!
thanks
JUC

[chrysek]

Nielm, please please please include Malore's Commercial Advance Beta Release into your STV!!!

I love how easy is in your setup to get around, especially with watch tv on front screen, it is so so great!

Thank you for this amazing STV

[darkside]

OK I have this working and I like it except the damn weather...I'm trying set it up for my area and just can't :( the way the instructions just don't jive with what is this is the URL for my location http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/local/98074

HELP!!

[White94Cobra]

Darkside - It looks like you are entering the Zip code to lookup your city. For me, I had to use the city name. For Zip code 98074 the correct area would be USWA0511. Hope this helps.

[Grey_Goose]

same here, once i plugged in the city names, i got the proper URLs...

i, too, would like an option to turn the box borders off on the main screen...

fantastic work! i've gone crazy w/ menus!

[meekell]

Is it possible to add actions that occur everytime the main menu is called?
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[turak]

Originally posted by Crim
Thanks. I've been going through the config file so I feel comfortable with that, its really an issue of finding the right images for each category.

I was able to copy the Pittsburgh addresses and just change "pit" in image addresses to "phl" to find the correct images for Philadelphia. PHL is the code for philadelphia international airport.

[turak]

Thanks for the slick STV. I'm having a problem with malore style sagetv recordings. If I use a small font size, it doesn't display any text. If I use a large one, it crops the bottom half of the text.

http://banshee.ancients.net/~turak/sagerecordings.jpg

[turak]

I see the problem. Font size for malore's recordings is just changing the size of the field for the text. The text itself doesn't seem to change size.

[Jason]

Originally posted by chrysek
Nielm, please please please include Malore's Commercial Advance Beta Release into your STV!!!

I too would like this! Heck... run the commercial advance, use sagecut to remove the commercials and then compress the final file... I'm set! :jump:

-Jason

[nielm]

Originally posted by darkside
OK I have this working and I like it except the damn weather...I'm trying set it up for my area and just can't :( the way the instructions just don't jive with what is this is the URL for my location http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/local/98074

Originally posted by White94Cobra
Darkside - It looks like you are entering the Zip code to lookup your city. For me, I had to use the city name. For Zip code 98074 the correct area would be USWA0511. Hope this helps.

You should also be able to use your US/Canada zip-code as your location ID... Sorry if I didn't make this clear...

[nielm]

Originally posted by turak
I see the problem. Font size for malore's recordings is just changing the size of the field for the text. The text itself doesn't seem to change size.
Ok, I see this... it is using the ui/base_font_size property instead. For the moment, keep multimenu_fontsize the same as ui/base_font_size. I will try to fix this today, but cannot guarantee it...

[Edit] sorry, it will have to be for when I get back!

[chrysek]

I also do see a problem with one menu: to get there be in the main screen. then press:
Sage TV PVR -> Recordings
then in this menu press with right mouse button.

This menu has left column pretty ok, but I think there should be something on the right side as well, it seems like there is microscopic writing in two places on the right side, and mouse can be moved over those buttons as well.

I dont know how to make a screen capture so I cant post what I do see. I did not modify any of the files in your package not I changed any font settings.

Regards, I love this STV :)

[nielm]

Originally posted by chrysek
Sage TV PVR -> Recordings
then in this menu press with right mouse button.
This menu has left column pretty ok, but I think there should be something on the right side as well, it seems like there is microscopic writing in two places on the right side, and mouse can be moved over those buttons as well.
Yep I see this... This is a problem with opions menu in my import of all the Malore-style menus.

You can switch back to the default sage Recordings menu, or Mlbdude 2-column style by going to:
SageTV PVR -> Custom Menus -> Custom menus Settings (scroll down) -> Sage Recordings Style
and set it to Default.
This setting is also available in:
SageTV PVR -> Setup -> Detailed Setup -> Enhancements -> Malore Menus Options -> Sage Recordings Style.

Its been put on the to-do list for when I get back!

[chrysek]

You are da best :) thank you so much!!! :)

The more I use this I love it more and more, great job!!!

[turak]

Originally posted by nielm
Ok, I see this... it is using the ui/base_font_size property instead. For the moment, keep multimenu_fontsize the same as ui/base_font_size. I will try to fix this today, but cannot guarantee it...

[Edit] sorry, it will have to be for when I get back!

I figured that is was using ui/base_font_size. Other then this minor problem, I really like this STV.

[Gaurav]

didn't bother to go thru the whole thread so i'm not sure if this has been reported.

Once you enter the recordings list, the left button doesn't take you back to the menu.

EDIT: Noticed this is specific to the malore custom menus.
Changed Rec style to mlbdude and problem disappeared.

Same thing in the weather screen. It might be better to have the left button back out to the menu (instead of cycling to the sponsored links tab)

[dooferlad]

I am getting the error "failed to load sagemenureader class" when loading this STV. Any ideas?

On the subject of improvements my current list is:
1. The music player needs improvement. The ability to just select a play list to play (m3u) or a directory and it to play, jumping straight into the visualisations would be a good start. Currently my next / previous buttons don't jump between files in a play list either, which is poor.

2. It may just be my set up, but the audio sync for DVD play back (AC3 pass through using WinDVD codecs) is poor. It doesn't retain sync correctly, if it every syncs correctly at all.

Other than that I am seriously considering buying SageTV. It looks very good indeed!

[kny3twalker]

use reclock to keeo the DVD in sync

reclock
http://ogo.nerim.net/reclockfilter/

[S4Alex]

I like this skin a lot. The only problem I have is the weather module. When I try and cut and paste your weather lines into the web browswer and change the lines to SFO for my area, it shows in the web browswer fine, so I just make the changes in the config file, but when I try to load up the weather suite, the maps always remain as DC, they never seem to change.

I am not sure what is up. I am pretty sure I have the right lines, as they work when I try to cut and paste. any help would be appreciated.


>>> here is a sample of what I have:

<view name="area" location="DalyCity" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxss_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1ksfos_h.gif" cropbottom="0.225806452" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/roads/ksfo_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/cities/ksfo_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/markers/ksfo_markers.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>

[ellweber]

Here is what seems to work for me for the bay area.

<view name="area" location="Saratoga" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1ksfoa_h.gif" cropbottom="0.225806452" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/roads/ksfo_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/cities/ksfo_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/markers/ksfo_markers.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>
<view name="metro" location="Saratoga" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_nxmos_640x480c/re2/inmaremr_sfo.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/roads/sfo_6x4_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/cities/sfo_6x4_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/markers/sfo_6x4_int.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>



I don't immediatly see what is causing you to have trouble but perhaps it is not shutting down sage completely when you edit the weatherconfig file.

[ErsatzTom]

Did you quite sage completely before editing the file?

t

[kny3twalker]

yeah I am also having this same issue

I need to know how to find the correct urls

I do not think the default ones are correct for the cities I choose

I can get the weather for Dallas but the radar maps for local are still DC

[turak]

I've seen other users from the Philadelphia area so I'll post my weatherconfig.xml. Maybe we should start a weatherconfig.xml thread containing configs for different cities. You'll have to remove the .txt extention to use this.

[DFranch]

I put your STV on my machine last night and it is awsome. My wife absolutely loves the weather module, and I love the upcoming recordings window on the bottom of every page, and the disk space in the lower right corner.

There is a slight problem with the menu's however. When you go to Sage TV PVR/Schedule recordings, then use the right arrow to go into favorites, then use the left arrow to leave favorites and return to Schedule recordings you see the old schedule recordings menu. hit the left arrow again and you go back to your schedule recordings menu. Just thought you would like to know.

[kny3twalker]

turak
where are you finding the xml information for other cities

is there just something I missed?????

and DFranch
I see this issue as well with the Schedule Recordings

[Crim]

If anyone does a weather config for Colorado could you please post it too.:)

[salsbst]

Hi Guys,

I'm the author of the weather menu, "Weather Report Suite" (named after a Grateful Dead medley).

The bad news is that I won't be supporting every request for assistance with this menu. The good news is that I'm willing to support it to some degree.

Be it known that the menu doesn't care where you download your data from, nor where you live, nor in which way you arrange your Weather Report Suite submenus.

I gathered the URLs in the example config from web pages on the internet. Accuweather is nice. You aren't restricted to accuweather, though... keep that it mind. Any animated gifs or sequence of images that you can download from the internet can be strung together by WRS into an animated weather map.

So, Colorado? My uncle lives there:

http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/metro_radar_large.asp?nxsite=den&type=loop is the animated weather map for the denver metro area.

Within the HTML for that page, you can search for "basemap" -- include the quotes in your search. You'll find a 'div' element that precedes a bunch of 'img' elements. Those are your animated gifs. You should be able to recognize the 'src' attributes in those img elements and plug them in to the weatherconfig.xml file in the right places. This stuff isn't rocket science, it just takes a little knowledge of HTML and XML.

Here is Colorado:


<div class=basemap id="basemap">
<img
src="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_nxmos_640x480c/re2/inmaremr_den.gif"
height="480" width="640" border="0">
</div>
<div class=imclass id="image2">
<img
src="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/roads/den_6x4_roads.gif">
</div>
<div class=imclass id="image3">
<img
src="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/cities/den_6x4_cities.gif">
</div>
<div class=imclass id="image4">
<img
src="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/markers/den_6x4_int.gif"
alt="DEN Metro Radar">
</div>
<div class="emclass">
<img
src="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/keys/radar_400x40.gif">
</div>



I will not respond to requests for URLs for other cities. I hope you guys will understand that I have spent a lot of time creating the Weather Report Suite so that we all can have great animated weather maps, and respect the fact that I don't want to become the "find my URLs for me" guy.

Regards,
Stuart

[kny3twalker]

Thanks I guess
I just could not figure this one
"basemap"

out and I never asked what the lines were just how to find them

I will post some cities though once I get them written up

[salsbst]

kny, I wasn't directing my statements about limited support towards you in particular. I'm very happy to answer general questions about how the WRS menu and it's config file work. I just won't be the guy who answers the questions like, "I live in Madagascar, what URLs should I use."

The source code, for anyone who's interested, is at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/sageplugins/weather-report-suite/

[salsbst]

...Once you enter the recordings list, the left button doesn't take you back to the menu... It might be better to have the left button back out to the menu (instead of cycling to the sponsored links tab)This was a design decision. I like to have the left button be distinct from the back button. Sorry that you don't like it.

[mightyt]

Finally ... My SageTV is getting closer and closer to what I'd like to see in a PVR. After a little XML kindergarten training on my own (one night), some trial and error ... and of course thanks nielm, :goodjob: I was able to design my own custom menu layout!

I have also read in this forum about someone who would like to see Sage with a beach scene background offering like Meedio. Well, I tried searching for a photo that would work well with the menu layout and wa-la, sky's the limit!! This was all added to my own font title choice and a little flare added to the Sage logo.

See Attached JPEG ...

Thanks for motivating me to fool with this nielm ... ;)

I would like to see "all" of MlbDude2 menu options available in this STV and I noticed a few things that didn't work properly for me. I have some probable dumb questions as well. I'll compile them and let you know by time you return from vacation.

All in all, I love it and can't wait to try Studio. Well, if you guys keep making these great STV's maybe I won't really need it! :confused: Kidding ... Of course I want Studio too ....

Thanks, T.

[srothwell]

Hi.....

Installed the 8-26 version and found, what I think, are the following bugs:

1. I used mlbdude's old recording display (selected from the menu), and when I deleted 3 recordings I, the recordings turned orange (instead of going away) and I could not go back to select shows to watch any more. The menu just stayed in the right-hand side going up and down the newly-oranged deleted recordings. I know they deleted becuase the disk space immedately jumped up. The above problem was using the remote. I was able to use the mouse to select something on the left column, however (but not desirable),

2. Went to view pictures. It now seems that the entire directory must have its thumbnails made to work properly. This seems different than before. Anyway, I was able to view a few pictures, but after scrolling down to where thumbnails weren't visible and hitting OK to view it, Sage stopped working for about 10 minutes then all of a sudden woke up. During the freeze, the mouse would not work on sage, but would for other applications.

3. Music Jukebox. Ok.... no flames or jokes here ok ? I have ONE SINGLE Yani album (remember, we all agreed no jokes)...... however, about 2/3 of my albums end up with Yani's album as their album art. It looks like this skin is placing the Yani art (where it got that from I don't know) in place of albums that don't have any art. I don't use folder.jpg for audio, just the embedded album art that's part of the ID3 tag.

4. Weather Suite..... Small little errors with remote cursor movement. When you go from Current Conditions and hit DOWN to see the radar, it leaves CURRENT highlited along with RADAR. If you move again, it leaves CURRENT highlighted and also selects METRO RADAR. There's some other strangeness when you cursor left to right, too.

5. I'm seeing a lot of "screen debris" left over in the video window, particularly on the main menu. Stuff like parts of blue bars, etc. I am running Overlay mode with 3D on and keying off.


Past this, it looks good. Unfortunately, I had to remove it from the main TV (and server) as the WAF (wife acceptance factor) goes WAY down when something doesn't work 100% with the remote. When WAF goes down, my aggrivation and "inbox" goes up. "-)

Keep up the good work.

Stacy

[jimmyb]

Ok . I loaded this at first and it was GREATTTTT! Then it stopped loading (I did change the other 3 locations for weather first). Now it will not load (goes back to original) and I have tried deleting and reloading files for the stv but to no avail. The properties file says nielm and the menu setup says nielm.stv but the original is loaded?

[ekiwi]

I love this stv,

I am having one little problem

after using it for a while (not exactly sure how long but more than a hour less than a day) when i go into sage recordings (the one with the description at the top, the show name lower left and the episode list on lower right) all the text in the bottom 2 panes dissapears you can still move around in the panes like you would expect its just the font has become invisiable

2 solutions to this probelm once it occures
1 completely quit sage or 2 clear filters i usually have it set to show "not watched" only

this has happened to me on at least 10 occasions, I am not sure the sequence of events that causes it to break but at least i have a solution.

I am currently running it without the filter to see if this is whats causing it to happen

-e

[Grey_Goose]

I'm having major issues w/ the #1 item on srothwell's post also.

you can get around it w/ the Rewind button, but it's still a pain.

[turak]

Originally posted by ekiwi
I love this stv,

I am having one little problem

after using it for a while (not exactly sure how long but more than a hour less than a day) when i go into sage recordings (the one with the description at the top, the show name lower left and the episode list on lower right) all the text in the bottom 2 panes dissapears you can still move around in the panes like you would expect its just the font has become invisiable


-e

Sounds like you're having the same problem that I'm having. There is a bug in this STV that causes the font in malore style sage recordings to use basefont size from the sage.properties file instead of the font size from the malore menu options. The reason that the fonts dissapear is because the field size it's using is from the malore settings. If you go into detailed setup and change the font size for malore menu's to 16, the text *should* stay. nielm said he would fix this when he gets back from vacation. For more info read some of the posts from earlier in this thread.

[ellweber]

First, I would like to thank nielm and others for their efforts with Studio. I am particularly enjoying the weather configurability and menu customizations.

I am attaching my weatherconfig.xml file in the hopes that it will be helpful to someone else. I have changed the locations (to Saratoga, Providence, New York and Los Angeles) and added the area Infrared images from WeatherBug. (Note that the extention .txt has been added to weatherconfig.xml.txt to facilitate the attacment.)

I am not endorsing WeatherBug particularly, just using it as an example for adding to the menus in the weather module. WeatherBug is at: http://ww5.weatherbug.com/Pages/Esi/Default.html?referrer_id=1&webwx_zip=10001

What I have found is that these sites don't always use the obvious location IDs. For example where "nyc" points to New York City for AccuWeather metro views they then go and use "vny" for Los Angeles! You have to look carefully at the URLs in their HTML source to figure out how they are addressing different areas. So, you can't count on airport identifiers or zip codes to be used consistantly.

Hope this is helpful.

Lynn

[ellweber]

Now for a minor problem I am having.

Per the attached screen shot I have been unsuccessful altering the font size for my recordings view. I have selected mlbdude for the view style and somehow the times are all shifted off screen. Any suggestions on how to resolve this?

I think it was ok before I made the last changes to the menu structure but I can't seem to get back to where I was!

Thanks,

Lynn

[redman]

If anyone is interested, I have attached my weatherxml (renamed to .txt) for Singapore and South east Asia.

It grabs separate info from weather.com, the Singapore nea and the geo-stationary satellite.

Still waiting to get MlbDudes OSD and mini-guide on before I deploy on my main system.

This is cool.

[samson]

Is there any way to get the web browser to work on a pvr-350 out ?????????

[jimmyb]

Why can't I load this stv anymore.

[salsbst]

jimmyb, if you post the STV and your properties file, I'll see if I can reproduce and/or find the problem when I get home from work tonight.

[salsbst]

Originally posted by samson
Is there any way to get the web browser to work on a pvr-350 out ????????? Unless Niel has a serious trick up his sleeve, I think the answer will be no.

[jimmyb]

sal

Not sure what you mean by post the STV. It is nielm's and the sage properties is the normal with the updates for quaility inserted (did this after no load though)

Hmmm .. can't upload proprties file .. invalid

[salsbst]

You can put a .txt extenion on the properties file to upload it. Among other things, I wanted to double check that the STV file did not get corrupted...

[jimmyb]

Tahnks sal .. here it is

[salsbst]

I was hoping to have the STV as well, but for now, the first problem I see is that the file you posted has this:

wizard/widget_db_file=C\:\\Program Files\\Frey Technologies\\SageTV\\STVs\\OriginalV2\\MalDude.stv

That's the wrong STV.

[jimmyb]

yes, but when I change that line to nielm.stv it then loads the original STV. This is the one i am watching now. I believe that is all I am to change in the property file?

[jimmyb]

The STV is in machine code??? How do I upload it?

[salsbst]

a) I guess you're certain that you really are looking at the original STV and not the nielm STV (they have the same looks)

b) If the forum won't let you upload the STV as is, just put a .txt extension on the end of it (or put it in a zip file).

It may be (I'm not sure) that SageTV falls back to the original STV if it cannot load the specified STV. You might try moving or renaming the original STV to ensure that it is not loaded. At least that will allow you to prove to yourself that the original STV is being loaded.

[jimmyb]

I say original because it has none of the graphic icons as in MalDude (png) and it is the plain menu with no PIP window. Also I did change the original.stv to rigina.stvl so I have no idea how it is loading. guess I start from reloading .. thx any way

[kny3twalker]

if you do not close SageTV (not just put to sleep) the changes to the properties file will not take effect

[jimmyb]

Got it to work. Seems that there is a line in the properties that states "dynamic menu = false". Remembering that this is what nielm was bragging about I changed to true and VOILA!!

Thx for caring guys. Once again a kick a app.

[RedCoat999]

Great STV by the way. 1 thing right now:

1) I like the 2-pane recordings view from MLBdude. The only one you have for this is "old". Can we have the new one which has fixed some navigation issues among the panes?

(and eagerly awaiting comskip to be added aswell for the ultimate STV)
Thanks

[srothwell]

Agree with the last poster, need Commercial Advance to be integrated too but also be able to interface with the FIEL_DUMP from mlbdude so we can use with MediaMVP.

Thanks!

[BerrantRyke]

Thank you for making SageTV finally accepted in all rooms of my home! Everyone is happy, including me since I finally changed the background.

All the features I wanted and more, and its now EASY to change the menu's around like I wanted.

ONLY gripe is that I no longer have the recordings menu (new MlbDude2??) like this one:

http://www.pcc2005.org/pics/sr_vert_qs.jpg

[BerrantRyke]

Oh, also for those who are having trouble with the weather suite and live in the raliegh-rocky mount-greenville area, here is my weather.xml, which includes a satellite view of the tropics.

[meekell]

I'm having a problem passing parameters correctly when calling external apps. For example, running "C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe" -config config_dvd.xml from the start menu->run command works great. However when I try to run the same line from Nielm's STV it doesn't work.

<actionMenuItem title="DVD">
<actionList>
<extCommand
command="C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe"
arguments="-config config_dvd.xml"
waitforexit="1"/>
</actionList>
</actionMenuItem>

Meedio is starts without the argument passed. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?

Oh, and by the way, sage is quickly restored focus after about a second so the waitforexit doesn't appear to be working. :bang:
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[salsbst]

Taking a look at Niel's code, it appears that, if you are Win2k or later, you will get the command:

cmd.exe /C start "console" /wait "C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe" -config config_dvd.xml

from that.

Win95 or 98 would get

command.com /C start "console" /wait "C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe" -config config_dvd.xml

While I can't guarantee that that is what his code is doing (about to jump on a plane), it certainly appears to be attempting to do that. So, if that doesn't work from the start/run prompt, then it probably won't work from the STV. If it does work, then either I've misread his code, or Runitime.exec doesn't do what I think it does.

Regards,
Stuart

[Booboo]

I love this Sage STV and have been playing with it for awhile. I have been changing the weather config and was wondering if anyone knew where I could get sat photos for Spain? Thanks for your help.

[littlerm]

Is there a way to change the vertical text spacing on the main menu to allow for more than 6 rows on-screen at once?

[RedCoat999]

It appears that the weather suite is not updating for any of the data. I have a DSL connection, and the data age rate in the xml file is set to 0.25 hours.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks

[remmy925]

I like the features you added. RSS and Weather are awsome. I have a few suggestions if you dont mind. First, if you created an easy way to change the presetup cities you have chosen it would be nice. Maybe a way to adjust them by entering a zip code into a setup menu. I would love to change those to maybe towns where relatives live and things like that. The other suggestion I have may be my own problem but assistance is always nice. :o) I noticed that the selection box appears to cover up part of the text in the menus. Also the text looks a little squished. I dont see that with the other STVs I have tried. If that could be fixed it would be nice. If you get those fixed, I think you would have an even better mod than before. I love what is there so far and hope it gets better.

[salsbst]

Originally posted by RedCoat999
It appears that the weather suite is not updating for any of the data. I have a DSL connection, and the data age rate in the xml file is set to 0.25 hours.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks Are you talking about images or the weather.com info?

With the images, the updates should be noticeable even if you are parked on an animation (the new images are slipped into the animation when they are downloaded).

With the weather.com data, you have to move from one menu to another to see the update.

[salsbst]

...if you created an easy way to change the presetup cities you have chosen it would be nice. Maybe a way to adjust them by entering a zip code into a setup menu. I would love to change those to maybe towns where relatives live and things like that...I might provide this in the future (for weather.com data, not the animations), but higher on my priority list are:

a) additional views of weather data
b) some options to determine whether:
(i) WRS returns to the last submenu that you were on if you return to WRS from some other part of the STV (currently you always get the "top left" submenu when you land in WRS); and
(ii) whether the current location is sticky when you return to WRS from another part of the STV (currently it always reverts to the first location in the list)

That said, in addition to graciously including WRS in his STV, Niel has already taken the bull by the horns and added to what I did with WRS (he made some nice modifications to make it weather.com license-compliant -- thanks to Niel for working out that sticky point!). So I wouldn't rule out the fact that perhaps he can be cajoled into providing an easier configuration process. He's nicer than I am :) Anyway, if I were to change the WRS code base, there's no guarantee that Niel would include the changes in his STV, but my impression is that he's a cooperative guy!

...I noticed that the selection box appears to cover up part of the text in the menus. Also the text looks a little squished. I dont see that with the other STVs I have tried...Is this in the Weather Report Suite menus or elsewhere or both?

Thanks,
Stuart

[meekell]

Taking a look at Niel's code, it appears that, if you are Win2k or later, you will get the command:

cmd.exe /C start "console" /wait "C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe" -config config_dvd.xml

from that.

Thanks for the info. It appears that this method doesn't work for any parameters passed with a leading dash. I can't pass parameters to Meedio or Girder which is really limiting the capabilities of this menu system. :bang:
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[remmy925]

Thanks for the post Salsbst. The menu and font problems I am having are mainly in the TV viewing menus. They dont have anything to do with the weather portion of this STV. I encounter the abnormal fonts when trying to view already recorded shows and things of that sort.

Just as a side note. I really do appreciate what you contributors do to improve SageTV. I would love to see SageTV provide more to make it a full HTPC solution. Right now I see it as an awsome PVR with some HTPC capabilities. It would be wonderful to have everything included into Sage TV that most front ends have. Your guys work makes SageTV a better product day by day.

[meekell]

Okay, I solved my own problem. In case anyone else ever runs into this problem: I'm having a problem passing parameters correctly when calling external apps. For example, running "C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe" -config config_dvd.xml from the start menu->run command works great. However when I try to run the same line from Nielm's STV it doesn't work.
<actionMenuItem title="DVD">
<actionList>
<extCommand
command="C:\Program Files\Meedio\Meedio Essentials\Meedio.exe"
arguments="-config config_dvd.xml"
waitforexit="1"/>
</actionList>
</actionMenuItem>

I fixed it as follows:
<actionMenuItem
title="Play DVD"
icon="STVs\OriginalV2\mlbdude\Default\mm_dvd.png">
<actionList>
<sageCommand command="Power Off" />
<extCommand command="C:\Progra~1\Meedio\Meedio~1\Meedio.exe"
arguments="-config C:\Progra~1\Meedio\Meedio~1\config_dvd.xml"
waitforexit="1" />
<sageCommand command="Power On" />
</actionList>
</actionMenuItem>

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[RedCoat999]

Originally posted by salsbst
Are you talking about images or the weather.com info?

With the images, the updates should be noticeable even if you are parked on an animation (the new images are slipped into the animation when they are downloaded).

With the weather.com data, you have to move from one menu to another to see the update.

I checked 24 hours later and moved from one menu to another and one location to another and nothing updated. It was only after a reboot did the updates start again. I had been checking the radar in Florida too, and that never changed either until the reboot.

Seems to be working now, it has been updating today.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by mightyt
I would like to see "all" of MlbDude2 menu options available in this STV and I noticed a few things that didn't work properly for me. I have some probable dumb questions as well. I'll compile them and let you know by time you return from vacation.


Nielm ... As promised, working with your new STV on my Sage Client for a some time now I have compiled some of my thoughts, questions and suggestions about an already terrific combo STV ... :thumbup:

See attachment below ... Your thoughts?

Once again ... THANKS!!! T.

[salsbst]

Originally posted by mightyt (in his word doc in his zip file)
7. Weather Feed Locks Up Sage – I am not talking about Weather Suite here. When the Weather menu item is selected, it says it is loading, but just hangs SageTV. There is no way to break out, I have to close Sage and launch it again. Any thoughts?

8. Weather Suite - I was able to set it up to show my location via zip code and can see Local Conditions, National Conditions, Forecast, etc. But, when in Local Conditions, I am missing the Area Radar and Metro Radar buttons? Not sure why?? Also, under National Conditions the word Precipitation in the button says “Precipitatio” and then wraps the “n” around to the next line.


On #7, you say you're not talking about Weather Report Suite, and yet it sounds sort of like the "loading" message that Weather Report Suite delivers if it is launch before any data have been downloaded. Are you sure this isn't a WRS issue?

On #8, yes, that one has been seen in early testing by folks and is something that I will be looking into. No ETA on it as of now.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
On #7, you say you're not talking about Weather Report Suite, and yet it sounds sort of like the "loading" message that Weather Report Suite delivers if it is launch before any data have been downloaded. Are you sure this isn't a WRS issue?

On #8, yes, that one has been seen in early testing by folks and is something that I will be looking into. No ETA on it as of now.

Thanks Salsbst!

On #7 ... I have attached a JPG with both screen shots. It appears that it is not WRS ... Not sure if this has anything to do with it, but let me tell you anyway.

This is how my Sage grew up over time;

1 - SageTV out of the box.
2 - MlbDude2 1.8.7 overlaid
3 - MlbDude Weather Plug-in installed
4 - Nielm 1.2 STV overlaid

Since Nielm included Weather and WRS, I am not sure if there may be any issues when I moved from 3 to 4 above? Or not?

On #8 ... Thanks a lot, I eagerly await your update ... :)

Oh ... One other question ... Can the WRS text be changed to reflect shadowed or outlined text so it would stand out a bit better on light backgrounds?

Thanks ... T.

[salsbst]

On #7, still not clear to me whether this is WRS or not. I'll have to check when I get back from the weekend.

WRS font can be changed by Niel if he sees fit.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
WARNING: I am on holiday for 2 weeks tomorrow! Any bugs found after today will have to wait!

3 days more!! ... Alright Nielm ... Your time is up!! No more hanging out by the shore relaxing!! :p

We need you back home all fresh and ready to tweak !! :cool:

Just Kidding!! :D After developing a great combo STV, you deserve the R&R ... In your absence this thread started to go stale a bit, so I thought I would refresh it ... :rolleyes2

Actually, I have customized your STV with my Sage Client and even did a usability test with the fam. They are very happy. But, before I move it over to my Server I anxiously await your feedback form this thread ... ;)

Two updates hold me back I am very spoiled with and used to using ...

1 - MlbDude2's new 2-pane "SageTV Recordings" and

2 - MlbDude2's "Upcoming Movies" Search

The others I mentioned earlier I don't mind waiting on and would make the move over to the Server and be a “little patient” ... :coffee:

Anyway, let me be the first to say Welcome Back!! :hi:

Thanks, T.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
On #7, still not clear to me whether this is WRS or not. I'll have to check when I get back from the weekend.

WRS font can be changed by Niel if he sees fit.

Hey Salsbst ... You back?? :confused:

Wondering if you had any more thoughts on #7??

Also, on the font, I thought maybe it could be a properties file change. Um, but then again I guess you can't change font effects like shadow or outline ... Guess we'll see what Mr. Nielm has to say ... ;)

Thanks, T.

[salsbst]

On the font issue, I must completely defer to Niel since it's a look and feel thing.

On #7, I'm working on a big deadline for work, so I won't be able to look into it just yet. A day or two more, I'd say. All I was going to do was try to understand why the menu says "Weather" at the top in your first screenshot, and then switches to "Weather Report Suite" in the second screenshot. It's the fact that it only says "Weather" that makes me suspect it's not WRS. I've yet to actually see Niel's STV in action, and I honestly don't remember whether WRS starts out saying "Weather" and then switches to "Weather Report Suite".

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
On the font issue, I must completely defer to Niel since it's a look and feel thing.

On #7, I'm working on a big deadline for work, so I won't be able to look into it just yet. A day or two more, I'd say. All I was going to do was try to understand why the menu says "Weather" at the top in your first screenshot, and then switches to "Weather Report Suite" in the second screenshot. It's the fact that it only says "Weather" that makes me suspect it's not WRS. I've yet to actually see Niel's STV in action, and I honestly don't remember whether WRS starts out saying "Weather" and then switches to "Weather Report Suite".

Not a problem. Work always comes first ... :(

Also ... I think there is some confusion here. It's not what you think ...

Nielm's STV has 2 Weather menu items to select from. One called "Weather" and the other "Weather Suite".

See screens shots he provides ...

http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/

I believe "Weather" provides you direct access to what is similar to forcast in WRS. I believe it is the MlbDude2 Weather viewer based upon the bullet items on the web link above.

My problem reflected in the screen shots I provided in an earlier post reflect that the second menu item in Nielm "Weather Suite" comes up fine and "Weather" now hangs. That is the problem with "Weather".

Outside of that WRS had a few bugs which I noted earlier.

Some there ya have it ...

Have fun on your project .... ;)

Thanks, T.

[salsbst]

Thanks for clarifying that. BTW, now I see why everyone is using the name Weather Suite instead of Weather Report Suite... oh well, perhaps the Grateful Dead are best forgotten and I should just move on. :)

Anyhoo, I just went back and reread your word doc. Along with the issue of the wrapping of the word Precipitation (which is on my "list"), in #8, you say:

Weather [Report] Suite -- I was able to set it up to show my location via zip code and can see Local Conditions, National Conditions, Forecast, etc. But, when in Local Conditions, I am missing the Area Radar and Metro Radar buttons? Not sure why??....

There may be a mismatch in your xml config between the locations and the rotan elements. Here's an example of a locations element:


<locations >
<location
name="Winterville"
label="Winterville">
<weathersourceinfo id="28590"/>
</location>
</locations>
Note the name attribute of the location element.

And here is a submenus element:


<submenus
label="Local Conditions" >
<currentconditions
label="Local Info"/>
<rotan
label="Local Doppler"
view="metro"
local="true"/>
</submenus>
Note that the rotan element has an attribute local="true". This means the rotan element labeled, "Local Doppler" is configured as a local animation. The view name for this menu is "metro".

Now take a look at the rotan configuration section:


<view name="metro" location="Winterville" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="image" href="http://pinpoint.ecu.edu/radar/rad.gif" imageType="gif"/>

</view>
Note that there is a view the location of which is "Winterville" and the name of which is "metro". If there had not been a view configured to match both the view name and the location, then that submenu item would be hidden when the user selected Winterville as the current location. The theory behind this is you may have a location of interest for which you don't have all the animations. For instance, I grew up in New Haven, CT and so I configured New Haven as one of my locations. However, there is no such thing as a metro radar for New Haven. Hence, in my config, I marked the "metro" sumenu item as local, and didn't supply a view with the name of "metro" and the location of "NewHaven".

I think this is what is happening to you. BTW, it's case sensitive.

Lastly, have I now noticed and comment on all of the issues/bugs you reported in WRS? (I'm can be a bit scatterbrained -- see reference to musical tastes above.)

Thanks,
Stuart

P.S. The work-work project stinks. There are a lot of HTPC projects I'd rather be doing, very difficult to focus.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
Thanks for clarifying that. BTW, now I see why everyone is using the name Weather Suite instead of Weather Report Suite... oh well, perhaps the Grateful Dead are best forgotten and I should just move on. :)

Anyhoo, I just went back and reread your word doc. Along with the issue of the wrapping of the word Precipitation (which is on my "list"), in #8, you say:

:D I removed some Quote Text to save thread space - MightyT :D

I think this is what is happening to you. BTW, it's case sensitive.

Lastly, have I now noticed and comment on all of the issues/bugs you reported in WRS? (I'm can be a bit scatterbrained -- see reference to musical tastes above.)

Thanks,
Stuart

P.S. The work-work project stinks. There are a lot of HTPC projects I'd rather be doing, very difficult to focus.


Thanks for the quick reply!! ... I know you are busy ... I will check out your recommendations to see it that is the problem with WRS ...

So, I guess I am realizing you can not comment on why my Weather item is not loading since it appears to be an MlbDude2 plug in inside of Nielm's STV ...

I guess I agree on work projects ... I'd also say this HTPC stuff doesn’t feel like real work ... ;)

Keep on keeping on ... Jerry would be proud!! :D :D :D

[jbuszkie]

Originally posted by mightyt


7. Weather Feed Locks Up Sage – I am not talking about Weather Suite here. When the Weather menu item is selected, it says it is loading, but just hangs SageTV. There is no way to break out, I have to close Sage and launch it again. Any thoughts?

On #7 ... I have attached a JPG with both screen shots. It appears that it is not WRS ... Not sure if this has anything to do with it, but let me tell you anyway.


I have a similiar issue.. Except mine doesn't lock up. It just sits there and does nothing except say loading.... I can break out by hitting giude or something like that.. What is that weather button supposed to do? My zip is 01519 if that matters....

My weather suite works fine, though....

Thanks,

Jim

[Droid]

Might you consider adding commercial skip from Malore?:jump:

[jbuszkie]

Originally posted by jbuszkie
I have a similiar issue.. Except mine doesn't lock up. It just sits there and does nothing except say loading.... I can break out by hitting giude or something like that.. What is that weather button supposed to do? My zip is 01519 if that matters....

My weather suite works fine, though....

Thanks,

Jim

Ok.. I got it working...
I think because I never had MLBDude loaded it didn't have the getweather module. So I grabbed the weather.com extractor here (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6249)
and followed the instructions. Then I needed to grab the weather icons from MLBdude2 and with a llittle necessary tweaking, it worked.

A note about the weather button needing MLBdude's stuff might be nice to have somewhere in the documentation (or is it there and I missed it?)

Thanks for all the great work that everyone has put in!! :goodjob:

Jim

Edit: fixed thread link

[mightyt]

Originally posted by jbuszkie
Ok.. I got it working...
I think because I never had MLBDude loaded it didn't have the getweather module. So I grabbed the weather.com extractor here (http://http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6249)
and followed the instructions. Then I needed to grab the weather icons from MLBdude2 and with a little necessary tweaking, it worked.

A note about the weather button needing MLBdude's stuff might be nice to have somewhere in the documentation (or is it there and I missed it?)

Thanks for all the great work that everyone has put in!! :goodjob:

Jim

Hmmm .... I had MlbDude2 installed with the GetWeather plug-in installed. See extract from my properties file below;

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

mlbdude/weather_exe=\\STVs\\OriginalV2\\MlbDude\\GetWeather.exe

mlbdude/weather_exe_java=false

mlbdude/weather_file=\\STVs\\OriginalV2\\MlbDude\\Weather.txt

mlbdude/weather_provider=www.weather.com

mlbdude/weather_url=http\://www.weather.com/xml/ext/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It did work with the MlbDude2 STV!!

Then I installed Nielm over MlbDude and it just hangs there in the loading state??.

BTW, I tried changing "false" to "true" above, but that didn't work either.

FYI, Here is my XML menu call for Weather;

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

<internalScreenMenuItem

title="Weather"

icon="STVs\OriginalV2\mlbdude\Default\mm_weather.png"

screen="Weather Menu -- CSM"/>

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lastly, you are right ... I can also click the Sage Logo to go back to Main Menu. Before trying that I thought it locked and just right-clicked Sage in the task bar and closed it.

But, bottom line ... I still can not load MlbDude2 Weather in Nielm. Got me?????

Thanks, T.

[jbuszkie]

mlbdude/ weather_exe=\\STVs\\OriginalV2\\MlbDude\\GetWeather.exe

Oh... Is that space real in the weather_exe thing?? or was that an artifact of copying? I don't think the space should be there..

Try using the weather.com extractor. It's a little different. There is no weather.exe. It's a batch file with two other files. It runs the batch file which loads the data from weather.com to a text file.
then the weather module parses the data from the file. But you have to change some of the properties. The instructions are easy enough to follow...

The other thing you might try (which I don't know if it has been mentioned) but look at your actual file names. Are they case sensitive? Is the file really called GetWeather.exe or is it getweather.exe. Also the Weather.txt.. Is it weather.txt? In the other thread where I got the weather.com extrator (here (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6249)) I think I saw something mentioned about case sensitivity..... Maybe Niel's is case sensitive where MLBdude's wasn't?

I never found the weather.exe because I never installed mlbdude2 so I just got the weather.com extractor. but I think our issue was the same. It can't find the weather unit...

Jim

[mightyt]

jb ... nope there was no real space in the properties file. Must have been to copy / paste.

However, I have some good news ... I just saved a bunch of money on my insurance .... Sorry, couldn't resist! Too much SageTV ... really need ComSkip ... ;)

Anyway, the real good news is while looking for the space in my properties file and stepping through the reinstall of "GetWeather" I found two problems ...

1- mlbdude/weather_exe=\\STVs\\OriginalV\\MlbDude\\GetWeather.exe

should read ...

mlbdude/weather_exe=\\STVs\\OriginalV\\MlbDude\\GetWeather.bat

thus BAT, not EXE ... ??? Don't ask! :blush:

2 - Then I noticed in the Getweather readme that there was no;

mlbdude/weather_url=http\://www.weather.com/xml/ext/

Not sure why this was there??

So, I remarked it out and BAM! Weather works!! :) :) :) :)

Now, I have both Weather and WRS working on Nielm over MlbDude2!!! All i have left to do for weather is try the suggestions Salsbst recommended for WRS.


THANKS!, T.

[Cornelp]

Really nice STV you built. I like most of the options, but I can't get to work the RSS News Feed, don't know why.

I add the news websites news.yahoo and news.com.com and I cant get any of the information, I get error message.

Failed to read from news source http://news.yahoo.com/rss
org.gnu.stealthp.rsslib.RSSException: Expected "</MEAT>" to terminate element starting on line 5

I tried to add news.yahoo.com and news.yahoo.com/rss and will not work.

When I add news.yahoo.com/rss I get this error:
Failed to read from news source news.yahoo.com/rss
java.net.MalformedURLException: no protocol: news.yahoo.com/rss


Can anyone help me with this, please?

Also, when I see the upcoming recordings, I try to click on the show to get the info about the show, but nothing happens, but when I click on the LOW LEFT part of the box, I get the information. Is this normal, or just my computer?

Thank You.

NOTE: The STV is really really good, specially the main menu.

[JUC]

-sorry, I answered my own question

-another edit, its late...just so no one is curious, I asked if anyone can post an example of their menu.xml file so I can see how to run external programs...but I found the info out on the wiki page after some searching--good stuff there.
JUC

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
Thanks for clarifying that. BTW, now I see why everyone is using the name Weather Suite instead of Weather Report Suite... oh well, perhaps the Grateful Dead are best forgotten and I should just move on. :)

Anyhoo, I just went back and reread your word doc. Along with the issue of the wrapping of the word Precipitation (which is on my "list"), in #8, you say:



There may be a mismatch in your xml config between the locations and the rotan elements. Here's an example of a locations element:


<locations >
<location
name="Winterville"
label="Winterville">
<weathersourceinfo id="28590"/>
</location>
</locations>
Note the name attribute of the location element.

And here is a submenus element:


<submenus
label="Local Conditions" >
<currentconditions
label="Local Info"/>
<rotan
label="Local Doppler"
view="metro"
local="true"/>
</submenus>
Note that the rotan element has an attribute local="true". This means the rotan element labeled, "Local Doppler" is configured as a local animation. The view name for this menu is "metro".

Now take a look at the rotan configuration section:


<view name="metro" location="Winterville" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="image" href="http://pinpoint.ecu.edu/radar/rad.gif" imageType="gif"/>

</view>
Note that there is a view the location of which is "Winterville" and the name of which is "metro". If there had not been a view configured to match both the view name and the location, then that submenu item would be hidden when the user selected Winterville as the current location. The theory behind this is you may have a location of interest for which you don't have all the animations. For instance, I grew up in New Haven, CT and so I configured New Haven as one of my locations. However, there is no such thing as a metro radar for New Haven. Hence, in my config, I marked the "metro" sumenu item as local, and didn't supply a view with the name of "metro" and the location of "NewHaven".

I think this is what is happening to you. BTW, it's case sensitive.

Lastly, have I now noticed and comment on all of the issues/bugs you reported in WRS? (I'm can be a bit scatterbrained -- see reference to musical tastes above.)

Thanks,
Stuart

P.S. The work-work project stinks. There are a lot of HTPC projects I'd rather be doing, very difficult to focus.


OK Stuart ... I hope you are on the other side of your work project so I can ask some dumb questions!! ... I gave it the ol'college try and thought I followed your directions... So, here is what I did ...

I went to the Accuweather site for the following "Area" and "Metro" Maps for the LA vicinity ...

http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/local_radar.asp?nxtype=R1&nxsite=kRIV

and

http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/metro_radar_large.asp?nxsite=vny

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I viewed the source on the maps and pasted the follow in to my weatherconfig.xml using Pittsburgh as a template.


<view name="metro" location="LA" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_nxmos_640x480c/re2/inmremr_vny.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/roads/vny_6x4_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/cities/vny_6x4_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/markers/vny_6x4_int.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>
<view name="area" location="LA" speed="750" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxss_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1kvcvs_h.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/roads/kvcv_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/cities/kvcv_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/markers/kvcv_markers.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I made sure the Location Element was there ...

<locations >
<location
name="LA"
label="LA">
<weathersourceinfo id="92324"/>
</location>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And it appeared the Rotan Elemant was already set ...

label="Local Conditions" >
<currentconditions
label="High-Level Info"/>
<rotan
label="Area Radar"
view="area"
local="true"/>
<rotan
label="Metro Radar"
view="metro"
local="true"/>
</submenus>

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After saving the xml file, I launched Sage and selected ¡§LA¡¨ in WRS using the "Change Location" button. After that I selected the "Local Conditions" button and this time the "Area Radar" and "Metro Radar" buttons did show up ƒº ... but ... ƒ¼ and you knew the but was coming ... when either button was selected, I just got a "Loading, Please wait ..." and nothing appears ¡K no maps??

Is there something obvious I am missing?? :confused:

Thanks a lot!, T.

[salsbst]

MightyT, I'll take a moment to look at your situation if you post your xml file (the thing that's probably named weatherconfig.xml). Just tack a .txt extension on the end of the file and post it to the forum.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by salsbst
MightyT, I'll take a moment to look at your situation if you post your xml file (the thing that's probably named weatherconfig.xml). Just tack a .txt extension on the end of the file and post it to the forum.

Thanks bro, I really appreciate it ... Here it is ...

T.

[ellweber]

T.

Here is what works for me for the Los Angeles area. Hope it is of some help.

Lynn


<view name="metro" location="LosAngeles" speed="1500" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_nxmos_640x480c/re2/inmaremr_vny.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/roads/vny_6x4_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/cities/vny_6x4_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/metro_layers/markers/vny_6x4_int.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>
<view name="area" location="LosAngeles" speed="1500" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="animation" name="base" href="http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1klaxa_h.gif" cropbottom="0.225806452" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="roads" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/roads/klax_roads.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="cities" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/cities/klax_cities.gif" imageType="png"/>
<layer type="image" name="road markers" href="http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/common/radar_layers/markers/klax_markers.gif" imageType="png"/>
</view>
<view name="ir" location="LosAngeles" speed="1500" delay="3000" maxage="0.25">
<layer type="image" name="base" href="http://wwc.stormdisplay.com/images/AWSRadars2/bug_ir/145/satellite0.jpg" imageType="jpeg"/>
</view>

Note: this includes the Infra Red map from WeatherBug

[salsbst]

I was just about to say that I think the problem is that you specified a non-animated image for the animation layers.

[nielm]

ok, so I am back... and there are 12 pages of 'new' posts, and 4 new pages in this thread... Looks like I have some reading to do :)

I will try to give an update early this week (in between recovering from the flight unpacking, looking after the wife+baby, compressing/watching all the movies I recorded :) .. oh yeah, and catching up with 'real' work :) )

Re comskip -- I have not looked at how it works, so I have no idea how easy it would be to extract it from malore's stv and put it in mine... I also do not use it myself so it is not high on the priorities list...

[Droid]

Good to see you have your priorities straight....:nod:

If you hate commercials you will wonder why you even bothered to watch TV once you have a commerical free environment using comskip... This was the main reason I traded up from my Tivo to Replay. Thanks :goodjob:

[Coolwave]

Originally posted by nielm
Re comskip -- I have not looked at how it works, so I have no idea how easy it would be to extract it from malore's stv and put it in mine... I also do not use it myself so it is not high on the priorities list...

I really want to use the features this stv has to offer, but I just can't give up comercial skip now that I've been using it for so long. I love it too much! But I really want xml based menus and everything else you've done. Looks great!

[srothwell]

Neil,

I love the custom menu you have for searching for Series premieres.

Can you make on for just plain old Season Premiere?

Or, better yet, can we expand the search capabilities to let us truly search for ANY text anywhere in the data that is downloaded?

Thanks!

PS.... hope you had a nice vacation....

[mightyt]

Originally posted by ellweber
T.

Here is what works for me for the Los Angeles area. Hope it is of some help.

Lynn

Note: this includes the Infra Red map from WeatherBug

Awesome ... That did the trick ... ;)
Not sure why I got different reference data from AccuWeather?? Not hard to figure out what to do, but that doesn't matter unless you have the right info plugged in ... :confused:
Nonetheless, plugging yours in covered my area. Thanks for sharing Lynn ... :goodjob:

And Salsbst ... Thanks for a terrific Weather Report Suite. :D

Fooling with this the last few days, my kids are calling me the Weatherman!! :jump:

So for me, Weather and Weather Suite are both sweet in Nielm's STV. Hopefully after his R&R from his R&R he'll be able to make turn his STV from Gold to Platinum!!! ... :p

BTW Niel ... think I said this before ... Welcome back ... Take 5 and lay back with a :coffee:

T.

[abasu2003]

I don't want to further bombard nielm and sound ungrateful but, for what its worth, the thing thats preventing me from switching to this STV is the mini-OSD from MLBdude.

But no hurries. I'll probably end up trying your STV anyway.

[Gaurav]

I'll second abasu2003 on that.

nielm - your's is without doubt the most comprehensive STV out there.
I used it for a few weeks and just loved it. However, i missed mlbdude's mini guide so much that i switched back to his STV yesterday. I do miss the WRS and the Malore custom menus and also the remaining disk space display. But the mini guide is a bit too convenient to give up.

I know you have the mini-OSD and a lot more planned so i'll keep an eye on this thread. And yeah!, like many others, i'd like to see commercial advance. Don't know how it works or how good it is but it does sound nice!!

[RedCoat999]

Originally posted by RedCoat999
It appears that the weather suite is not updating for any of the data. I have a DSL connection, and the data age rate in the xml file is set to 0.25 hours.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks

OK, now this is the second time this has happened to me. The only way I got the weather updated the first time was to reboot. The Weather Suite is stuck on weather for last Friday. All the weather, be it forecasts, current weather, radar, etc is stuck. How can I force an update without rebooting? Why is this happening?
(the other simple weather module is working fine by the way).
Thanks

[salsbst]

RedCoat, somehow the thread that downloads all the data must have gotten hung. I have never seen this happen, but since you report that it has happened, I'll look for places to put timeouts to make sure that such hangs are recovered from.

[jbuszkie]

Is the llittle 'F" denoting first run in this STV? I guess I really miss it. I think it was in Maldude which was what I was using until recenty.. Can I request it?? Or is there some way to identify first runs??

Thanks,

Jim

[nielm]

Originally posted by mightyt
Nielm ... As promised, working with your new STV on my Sage Client for a some time now I have compiled some of my thoughts, questions and suggestions about an already terrific combo STV ... :thumbup:

1 Can we change the Menu Title of an Internal Screen?
Not without Studio, and I have no plans to include this (it would be a pain and need properties file settings for each individual internal screen name)

2 changing the internal menus 'back to xxx' descriptions
again, no plans to include this... I might add internal screens for each of the 'search by' screens in a later version, so you can work around the search menu limitations.

3. Inconsistent Menu Title Fonts
They should always use the same font, but they will auto-scale, so large menu titles will show as a smaller font...

4 Upcoming Recordings on the Main Menu cuts off date/time
I will look into this -- on my system it only cuts off the date, so you still have the day and the time... There is limited space with the channel logo and the disk space bar...

5/6.Sage TV Recordings Style Options/search menus
Other Mlbdude2 menus may appear in a future version...

7/11 [mlbdude-style] Weather Feed Locks Up Sage
I see that you have fixed this, but in my testing, it never locked up Sage, the Sage logo, the back arrow, the left and home keys still worked

8. Weather Suite precipitaction word wrap
What screen size and base font size do you use?

9. Direct acces to Setup Wizard in Menu Items
may appear in a future version.

10. Sage Logo as back button
It (and the Home key) takes you back to the last dynamic menu page viewed... Pressing it again takes to to the top level main menu.

11 malore Guide3 Locks Up Sage
Ooops... Will look into it... (the back and home keys still work!)

12. Malore Upcoming Movies shows no movies
It always did that for me, I though because I was using XMLTV, not the Sage EPG... Will look into it

[nielm]

Originally posted by Cornelp
Really nice STV you built. I like most of the options, but I can't get to work the RSS News Feed, don't know why.


Failed to read from news source http://news.yahoo.com/rss
That is not an RSS feed -- it is a web page with a list of RSS feeds... Use one of the links referenced by the orange [XML] icons, eg:
http://rss.news.yahoo.com/rss/topstories

When I add news.yahoo.com/rss I get this error:
You need the full HTTP url, as abive

Also, when I see the upcoming recordings, I try to click on the show to get the info about the show, but nothing happens, but when I click on the LOW LEFT part of the box, I get the information. Is this normal
Known bug -- to be fixed... (The text prevents the mouse clicks from being received)

[nielm]

Originally posted by srothwell
I love the custom menu you have for searching for Series premieres.
Can you make on for just plain old Season Premiere?
It's Malores -- I don't actually know how it works!
Or, better yet, can we expand the search capabilities to let us truly search for ANY text anywhere in the data that is downloaded?
Search All Fields in the Search Menu should do this...

[nielm]

Originally posted by littlerm
Is there a way to change the vertical text spacing on the main menu to allow for more than 6 rows on-screen at once? This might come in the next version... if I can figure out how to do it...

[nielm]

Originally posted by dooferlad
I am getting the error "failed to load sagemenureader class" when loading this STV. Any ideas?
You probably have not installed all the Java classes zipfiles -- check the installation instructions...

[broderp]

All my MP3s are tagged with the picture information, can I still use these in the default way SAGE allowed me to? Or do I have to install a .jpg in each folder?

[nielm]

Originally posted by broderp
All my MP3s are tagged with the picture information, can I still use these in the default way SAGE allowed me to? Or do I have to install a .jpg in each folder? yes, tagged pictures still work

[srothwell]

Niel,

Thanks for the reply.

I've tried to search in "All Fields" but it appears that All Fields means it will search in all the fields that you can already search in (Title, Description, Actor) but not other fields like "Executive Producer", "Original Air Date", or others which is where stuff like "Season Premiere" come from.

Are you going to be able to browse by station in your STV? I currently keep on system still running mlbdude2 for that feature.... it makes up for not being able to look for Season Preimeres :-)

And lastly, I'm still having problems when deleting using your STV. If you delete a file, it leaves the menu element for the file there until you exit the menu, wait a couple of seconds then come back. Sometimes you have to wait a few minutes. But, it's pretty difficult when you only have a remote and not a mouse, becuase if you've deleted all of them, you can't use the left arrow on the remote to get out of that show and move to another. You're stuck.

Niel, thank you for all the hard work on this. This is by far the best STV I've ever used. If we can fix a few of the bugaboos, the WAF (wife acceptance factor) will be near 100%. My wife, the Weather junkie, is in love with your Weather Suite. I've spent hours and hours customizing it. About the only thing I couldn't get to work right was using radar images from Accuweather premium becuase they use a java script to display the radar maps becuase they do so much --- or to prevent someone frok hijacking them like me :-)

When you feel that your STV is up to "release status" please let me know. I'll be first in like to donate $$$$$.

Best regards.

Stacy

[jbuszkie]

Slight bump
Originally posted by jbuszkie
Is the llittle 'F" denoting first run in this STV? I guess I really miss it. I think it was in Maldude which was what I was using until recenty.. Can I request it?? Or is there some way to identify first runs??

Thanks,

Jim

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
1 Can we change the Menu Title of an Internal Screen?
Not without Studio, and I have no plans to include this (it would be a pain and need properties file settings for each individual internal screen name)

** Bummer … It diminishes slightly the ability to customize a menu item name when the menu that shows up has a different name at it’s top. Less about me and more about the fam. :)

2 changing the internal menus 'back to xxx' descriptions
again, no plans to include this... I might add internal screens for each of the 'search by' screens in a later version, so you can work around the search menu limitations.

** I wish Sage would have just used a generic “Back” since we can not change it. Well, I guess whatever you can do for us on the Search side is a step!

3. Inconsistent Menu Title Fonts
They should always use the same font, but they will auto-scale, so large menu titles will show as a smaller font...

** Nope, weird as it may sound all menu screens take on my selected font for the title, EXCEPT the “Archived SageTV Recordings” screen in your STV? I’ll attach a JPG so you can see what I mean.

4 Upcoming Recordings on the Main Menu cuts off date/time
I will look into this -- on my system it only cuts off the date, so you still have the day and the time... There is limited space with the channel logo and the disk space bar...

** Actually there is plenty of screen space, it’s just that the day and time squish up against the channel logo, truncate and add … ??? I’ll add it to the attachment. Got me??

5/6.Sage TV Recordings Style Options/search menus
Other Mlbdude2 menus may appear in a future version...

** Excellent answer!! ;)

7/11 [mlbdude-style] Weather Feed Locks Up Sage
I see that you have fixed this, but in my testing, it never locked up Sage, the Sage logo, the back arrow, the left and home keys still worked

** Yep, my bad … a few tweaks and the hanging quit!

8. Weather Suite precipitaction word wrap
What screen size and base font size do you use?

** As you have seen with the help of others I have WRS working great! As for the Precip test issue. It appears this one was on me as well, I changed the base font to ERAS BOLD ITC which caused the word wrap … Since Salsbst WRS gave me the ability to change the text I just kept my font and changed “Precipitation” to “Rainfall” and wa-la, no more wrapping?

9. Direct acces to Setup Wizard in Menu Items
may appear in a future version.

** Would pleading make a difference. ;) Thanks to you, I have a “Settings” menu that includes, SageTV Setup (formerly Detailed Setup), Channel Setup, Parental Controls, Update Media Library, Recording Information, System Information and Sleep Mode. The only valuable settings menu worth adding is the Setup Wizard for configuring TV cards. Anyway, if you can sir it would be great.

10. Sage Logo as back button
It (and the Home key) takes you back to the last dynamic menu page viewed... Pressing it again takes to to the top level main menu.

** Hmmm … I thought the silver left arrow next to the Sage Logo took you back one level and the Sage Logo itself was always a way to get home (main menu)?? So, I guess what you are saying it the arrow and logo have one and the same function, correct?

11 malore Guide3 Locks Up Sage
Ooops... Will look into it... (the back and home keys still work!)

** I’ll probably not use this myself, but tried to test everything for you and share my experience as promised.

12. Malore Upcoming Movies shows no movies
It always did that for me, I though because I was using XMLTV, not the Sage EPG... Will look into it

** Again, personally, I’ll probably not use this myself (I like MlbDude2’s implementation), but tried to test everything for you and share my experience as promised.


Niel ... See my comments above preceeded by ** ...

Thanks for the quick reply while recovering from jet lag! T.

[nielm]

Originally posted by jbuszkie
Slight bump
Is the llittle 'F" denoting first run in this STV? I guess I really miss it. I think it was in Maldude which was what I was using until recenty.. Can I request it?? Or is there some way to identify first runs??
No it is not in my STV at the moment... will put it on the todo list...
First-runs can be identified by looking at the detailed info for the program...

[nielm]

Originally posted by mightyt
Niel ... See my comments above preceeded by ** ...


2 changing the internal menus 'back to xxx' descriptions
I might go through and change everything to 'back'

3. Inconsistent Menu Title Fonts on Archived SageTV recordings
Ah, I see. I will have a look at this -- most likely iit is a bug in the Original STV that I inherited :)

4 Upcoming Recordings on the Main Menu cuts off date/time
I know the issue... and will rephase my answer -- the widget I reuse for displaying upcomming recordings is the same one that is used everywhere else, and it expects to have the full screen width... Because it has less than the full screen width, things get squished more than they should... I will look into it.

10. Sage Logo as back button
It (and the Home key) takes you back to the last dynamic menu page viewed... Pressing it again takes to to the top level main menu.

** Hmmm … I thought the silver left arrow next to the Sage Logo took you back one level and the Sage Logo itself was always a way to get home (main menu)?? So, I guess what you are saying it the arrow and logo have one and the same function, correct?
Not quite.

If you used the 'Guide' button to get from video to Guide and press the '<' button, you will go back to the video screen. If you press the [Sage] button, you will go back to the last dynamic menu page used.
Similarly, if you go: 'top level main menu -> Shecdule recordings Submenu -> search menu -> search for program -> view results -> view airing' , '<' will take you back one step in the above list while [Sage] will take you back to the Schedule Recording submenu.

If you are in a dynamic menu page and press the '<' button you will go up one level (or to the OSD if you are at the top level) If you press the [Sage] button you will always go to the top level menu.

Its a bit inconsistant, but I did not want to make too many changes in the OriginalSTV ouside of the bits that I have added

[nielm]

Originally posted by srothwell
Niel,

Thanks for the reply.

I've tried to search in "All Fields" but it appears that All Fields means it will search in all the fields that you can already search in (Title, Description, Actor) but not other fields like "Executive Producer", "Original Air Date", or others which is where stuff like "Season Premiere" come from.

Are you going to be able to browse by station in your STV? I currently keep on system still running mlbdude2 for that feature.... it makes up for not being able to look for Season Preimeres :-)

And lastly, I'm still having problems when deleting using your STV. If you delete a file, it leaves the menu element for the file there until you exit the menu, wait a couple of seconds then come back. Sometimes you have to wait a few minutes. But, it's pretty difficult when you only have a remote and not a mouse, becuase if you've deleted all of them, you can't use the left arrow on the remote to get out of that show and move to another. You're stuck.

When you feel that your STV is up to "release status" please let me know. I'll be first in like to donate $$$$$.

I had hoped that 1.0 was the release status version :rofl: After 10 years of software engineering, I should know better!

Re deleting... Which menu and which action are you using to delete the file? (mlbdude sage recordings/malore sage recordings/Original sage recordings [grouped/not grouped]) From your comments it sounds like the mlbdude 2-pane version, in which case it is a known bug with the 'old' version, which I plan to replace.

Re browse by station... Added to the todo list :)

(what have I let myself in for!)

[jbuszkie]

Originally posted by nielm
(what have I let myself in for!)
Lots of fun??? This is supposed to be fun, right??

Now get to work!! :D

Seriously, Thanks for the effort :goodjob:

Jim

[srothwell]

Niel,

Yes..... my delete problems are coming from mlbdude's old 2-pane version.

Also another thing I've noticed..... using the same mlbdude old in your stv sometimes the recording screen will show nothing in both the show title box (left side) and one or more individual episodes (right side).

This happened when I upgraded one of my clients to your stv. The episode of "joey" had no show title or episode title, just blanks. Same with one episode of "The Apprentice". The other episode showed up normally.

hmmmm.....

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
2 changing the internal menus 'back to xxx' descriptions
I might go through and change everything to 'back'

3. Inconsistent Menu Title Fonts on Archived SageTV recordings
Ah, I see. I will have a look at this -- most likely iit is a bug in the Original STV that I inherited :)

4 Upcoming Recordings on the Main Menu cuts off date/time
I know the issue... and will rephrase my answer -- the widget I reuse for displaying upcoming recordings is the same one that is used everywhere else, and it expects to have the full screen width... Because it has less than the full screen width, things get squished more than they should... I will look into it.

10. Sage Logo as back button
It (and the Home key) takes you back to the last dynamic menu page viewed... Pressing it again takes to to the top level main menu.

** Hmmm … I thought the silver left arrow next to the Sage Logo took you back one level and the Sage Logo itself was always a way to get home (main menu)?? So, I guess what you are saying it the arrow and logo have one and the same function, correct?
Not quite.

If you used the 'Guide' button to get from video to Guide and press the '<' button, you will go back to the video screen. If you press the [Sage] button, you will go back to the last dynamic menu page used.
Similarly, if you go: 'top level main menu -> Schedule recordings Submenu -> search menu -> search for program -> view results -> view airing' , '<' will take you back one step in the above list while [Sage] will take you back to the Schedule Recording submenu.

If you are in a dynamic menu page and press the '<' button you will go up one level (or to the OSD if you are at the top level) If you press the [Sage] button you will always go to the top level menu.

Its a bit inconsistent, but I did not want to make too many changes in the OriginalSTV outside of the bits that I have added

Thanks again Niel ...

2 / 4 - Appreciate the consideration ...

3 - Appreciate the consideration ... BTW, Just and FYI, this didn't happen in MlbDude2 ...

10 - Ah, I understand ... Actually this isn't really an issue for the server since the remote is my main source of navigation. It's more for the client side. What you said makes sense, I guess I just have to purge my brain from looking at the Sage logo as Home (Main Menu). You konw what happens when you get mentally stuck on stuff like this ... :bang: :D

Oh ... you say "(what have I let myself in for!)"

Well ... obviously you started a ruckus here! ... and then you cracked one of the most desirable Sage limitation workarounds ... customizable menus ... then you added some of the best of the best form you partners' STV's. Now Niel .... did you not expect all this excitement?? I still haven't forgiven you for teasing us with your STV and then leaving town for 2 months, I mean weeks!!! Lastly, I guess you hadn't heard that you, along with MlbDude, Malore and Salsbst have been inducted to the new Sage Hall of Fame!! Wasn't it all worth it? ... Speech, speech!

SORRY! I meant to also include Opus in the HOF for outstanding MalDude achievement as well!!

:) :D ;) :p :cool: :jump: :coffee: :nod: and finally :goodjob:

I know, I'm out of control ...

Thanks, T.

[broderp]

Is the SAGE logo "back button" accessable with a REMOTE CONTROL?

[nielm]

Originally posted by broderp
Is the SAGE logo "back button" accessable with a REMOTE CONTROL?
you mean the [<] arrow button next to the sage logo: yes, if you configure the remote to send the 'back/previous page' command, or ALT-LEFT keystroke...
The [Sage] logo itself sends the Home command (== Home key)

[insomniac]

Just started trying out your stv, and am very impressed. kudos!

Thank you very much for your contribution. This is absolutely everything I am looking for (short of commercial detection :)!

Any thought on if you will implement commercial detection? Is there a way that I can do it myself, via editing your xml w/ known parameters?

I appologize for the lazy question, but i figured that someone would probably be able to give a quick yay or nay. Then Ill hit the wiki :)

I.

[ellweber]

I have been unable to set a different background image. I can see that mightyt has successfully done so, so I think it shopuld be possible.

I found the sage.properties parameter and edited it as follows:
ui/background_image=C\:\\Program Files\\Frey Technologies\\SageTV\\spices.jpg
but nothing seems to change. I have completely exited Sage while editing this file. The desired graphic is a jpeg with the above name and location.

Any help with what I am missing here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Lynn

[mightyt]

Originally posted by ellweber
I have been unable to set a different background image. I can see that mightyt has successfully done so, so I think it shopuld be possible.

I found the sage.properties parameter and edited it as follows:
ui/background_image=C\:\\Program Files\\Frey Technologies\\SageTV\\spices.jpg
but nothing seems to change. I have completely exited Sage while editing this file. The desired graphic is a jpeg with the above name and location.

Any help with what I am missing here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Lynn

It's easier than you'd think Lynn ... and didn't require a mod to the properties file. :cool:

Within folder "C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\STVs\OriginalV2" you will find a file called "Background1024.jpg".

I took several of my favorite background photos and opened them in my MS Digital Image Pro software. I saved them with the following parameters;

* Pixel Dimensions = 1024x768 (W x H), and
* Resolution = 96 pixels per inch

Whenever I want to change my background I just copy one of those JPG's in to that folder and rename it to "Background1024.jpg".

Once you restart Sage, there it is ...

BTW, I keep the original Sage background and my alternates in a folder under the OriginalV2 folder as well for easy future access when I get board with the one I am looking at.

Enjoy :D … T.

[ellweber]

Thanks T,

That did the trick! Doesn't seem to be sensitive to the resolution or size of the image.

Lynn

[mightyt]

Originally posted by ellweber
Thanks T,

That did the trick! Doesn't seem to be sensitive to the resolution or size of the image.

Lynn

Yep ... The reason I went with 1024x768 is because the original indicated that to me in its name. I went with 96ppi just to keep the file size and graphic refresh rate down, and as with web graphics, no need to use large amount of pixels if I am not printing the jpg ...

Glad you now have a custom personal background!! :jump:

T.

[Opus4]

In case you are curious, a ppi setting is completely irrelevant when talking about a specific resolution size of an image, unless you are actually going to print it. A 1024x768 image at 96 ppi is the same as a 1024x768 image at 2 ppi or 5000 ppi: 1024 pixels x 768 pixels. The ppi setting simply tells the print process what size to print the image at.

Anyway, SageTV is scaling whatever image you give it to fill the space it was told to fill. If it is a background image, you will notice that it still fills the background whether you are running in a tiny window or full screen.

Sorry for the interruption. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming... :)

- Andy

[mightyt]

Originally posted by Opus4
In case you are curious, a ppi setting is completely irrelevant when talking about a specific resolution size of an image, unless you are actually going to print it. A 1024x768 image at 96 ppi is the same as a 1024x768 image at 2 ppi or 5000 ppi: 1024 pixels x 768 pixels. The ppi setting simply tells the print process what size to print the image at.

Anyway, SageTV is scaling whatever image you give it to fill the space it was told to fill. If it is a background image, you will notice that it still fills the background whether you are running in a tiny window or full screen.

Sorry for the interruption. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming... :)

- Andy

Hmmm ... Doing some web authoring in the past we had some professional digital photos taken. Our provider went with the lower ppi stating that that is what would be preferable for screen refresh. It appeared to make a difference than when compared to the others with greater pixel depth. I assumed that a Sage background would be treated similarly, thus it would be less taxing with a lower ppi. Nonetheless, if it all works then I guess it doesn't matter much.

This is only a test ... For the next 60 seconds the EBS will be ... Bla, Bla, Bla ... :D

Thanks, T.

[Opus4]

Maybe your provider didn't know what they were talking about, or else they conveyed the meaning in a poor manner. :) PPI only makes a difference when you are talking about the size of the image in terms of some measurement, such as inches. So, an 8" x 10" image at 240 ppi is 1920 pixels x 2400 pixels, while at 96 ppi it would be 768 pixels x 960 pixels. If you are talking about the pixel size of the image, ppi is irrelevant -- it is just a setting to say what physical size the image would be if it were to be printed or displayed in a program that scales it according to the ppi setting. Example: if you load an image into MS Word & display it at 100% size, it will be scaled on the page to match the pixel size divided by its ppi setting, thus it is preparing it for its printed size. Oh -- and I might be wrong, but as far as I know, IE doesn't scale by ppi setting. It can be set to scale an image to fit the screen, but that is different.

If you want more details about how ppi affects images, its relationship to a printer's dpi, etc., PM me. Trust me: not all pro photographers know what ppi is & how it affects their images. I know some who only think in inches for image sizes, so ppi means everything & the # of pixels seems irrelevant to them. They are still good photographers, though. :) I'm guessing your provider was thinking in inches, so _resizing_ the image using a lower ppi setting made the pixel count/file size smaller. Simply setting ppi w/o resizing won't change the number of pixels or the file size.

I really didn't mean to get too sidetracked here; my goal was to let you know that 1) the ppi setting doesn't matter here & that 2) SageTV will scale the pixel size to fit its current display size.... and used waaaaay too many words to say it! ;)

- Andy

[mightyt]

Originally posted by Opus4
I really didn't mean to get too sidetracked here; my goal was to let you know that 1) the ppi setting doesn't matter here & that 2) SageTV will scale the pixel size to fit its current display size.... and used waaaaay too many words to say it! ;)

- Andy

Not at all Andy ... Apparently I was misinformed ... That's what I love about this forum ... You get the straight scoop! :thumbup:

Appreciate the info ... Will PM you for more ... :dance:

T.

[phantomfsoc]

Just wondering... I lobe the skin and made my own Menu but the only thing I can't get working is MAME. I know not too many people use it, but does anyone know how to add it back in. I managed to get it into the menu but when I click on MAME it says it can't find it.
I'm not too familiar with XML so how would I go about adding in the right code?
Thanks

[mightyt]

Originally posted by phantomfsoc
Just wondering... I lobe the skin and made my own Menu but the only thing I can't get working is MAME. I know not too many people use it, but does anyone know how to add it back in. I managed to get it into the menu but when I click on MAME it says it can't find it.
I'm not too familiar with XML so how would I go about adding in the right code?
Thanks

Well, I'm not much of a gamer, but added all of the menu options to my XML file, using their Internal Screen Names from Nielm's web page.

http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/screens.html

I added "Arcade Games - TEST" this way. Note, I used the weather icon just as a place holder to ensure it worked.

<internalScreenMenuItem
title="Arcade Games - TEST"
icon="STVs\OriginalV2\mlbdude\Default\mm_weather.png"
screen="Arcade Games - TEST"/>

FYI, when I click this menu item a blank screen comes up, but I don't get an error.

I am sure others will comment .... T.

[mightyt]

Since I have set up my client system with Nielm's STV I have completely customized the menus to my liking. Only one thing I can not figure out ...

How to I create a "Live TV" menu item? I don't see anything on the "Internal Screen Names" list, nor on the "Controlling SageTV Using Windows Messages" list that I can use. So what do I use to execute this as an XML menu item? I used to be able to enable this on MlbDude2 via the properties file on the main menu and now I have to go to the Guide, click a show and then Watch Now ...

Any thoughts?

Thanks, T.

[nielm]

Originally posted by mightyt
How to I create a "Live TV" menu item?
ActionMenuItem sending the sageCommand "Live TV":<actionMenuItem
title="Live TV"
icon="STVs\OriginalV2\mlbdude\Default\mm_epg.png">
<actionList>
<sageCommand command="Live TV"/>
</actionList>
</actionMenuItem>

[nielm]

Ok... some time later... here is version 1.3:

You need to download:
the updated STV zipfile (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/nielm_stv.zip)
the updated Java classes (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/nielm_stv_classes.zip)
and if you have not yet installed the Mlbdude2 STV, you will also need to download the updated icons file (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/nielm_stv_icons.zip)

Some of the additions are untested -- CC and commercial skip: I don't use these myself, but added them by popular demand... I hope they work, but I guess I will find out soon enough if they don't.

On with the release notes...

V1.3 -- 21 Sept 2004
Bugfixes: Main menu rec-schedule: corrected clickability.
IMDB search corrected to search airing name
Malore menus font size handling fixed
Malore menus options dialog fixed
Fixed menu title font on archived recordings menu
In Weather screens, STOP button/CloseFile command takes you back to the main menu
Reworked upcomming recordings widget to make date/time have more room
Java update: corrected minor bug in rss newsreader (HTML not decoded correctly)
New Features: Auto-Adjusting number of displayed main menu items (between 6/7 and 9/10 (depending on whether recording schedule is visible)
new menu "Upcoming Favorites by malore" added
Closed captioning by malore added (UNTESTED)
commercial skip by malore (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/ComSkip) added (UNTESTED)
Added First run logo to airings (icons zipfile update)
added "Easy Search - Title" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search - Person" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search -- All" to main menu internal screens
added "Easy Search -- Description" to main menu internal screens
Added mlbdude menu: "BrowseByStation CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "SageRecordings w/ Optional Preview & AutoCategories Two Pane Vert CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "SageRecordings w/ Optional Preview & AutoCategories Two Pane Hor CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "Upcoming Movies - CSM"
Added mlbdude menu: "BrowseByCategoryTitle by CSM - New"

[RedCoat999]

My Vote this November in the US elections:

nielm for President!

[JasonJoel]

Oh man, I can't wait to try this! I've been waiting for the commercial advance, so hopefully it works. :) Still using Malore's (VERY GOOD!) stv. But am missing weather and RSS...

What a great effort this is! Both on the original content and the collaborative content.

This is the first skin that I can honestly say has everything *I* wanted in a skin. Should be fun configuring it! The documentation looks easy enough (I've done my share of XML in the past).

I'll report back

Jason Bottjen

[abasu2003]

ok, don't want to sound the least bit ungrateful so think of this as a completely idle question:

is the mini-OSD from mlbdude in this skin?

I love all of the other additions. I would just download it and find out for myself but all of my weekends are filled for some time and I want to set aside a couple hours to mess around with xml.

[nielm]

Originally posted by abasu2003
is the mini-OSD from mlbdude in this skin?
No it is not (yet)

[White94Cobra]

As always, thanks for the great update. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I can't find a way to manually detect commercials on a recorded show (?) Thanks again!

[insomniac]

THANK YOU!

I just wanted to say once again, your STV is the bomb. This is pretty much everything that I want (w/ the newely included commercial skip!).

Not to discount the hard work that the others have done at all. Without their hard work, you would not have compiled all these great options together (or so quickly!).

Thank you mlbdude, malore, neilm (and others which im probably not aware of at this point)!

I.

[Xenophon]

This is from dooferlad on page 4 of this thread:
I am getting the error "failed to load sagemenureader class" when loading this STV. Any ideas?
I am having the same issue. Any ideas on what we are doing wrong?

Installation steps Ive taken:

#1 Unzipped the files where told. Also I unzipped nielm.stv into the OriginalV2 folder.. are all the unzipped files supposed to be in there or just the SageTv folder?

#2 Modified sage properties line to wizard/widget_db_file=C\:\\Program Files\\Frey Technologies\\SageTV\\STVs\\OriginalV2\\nielm.stv

#3 Modified the weatherconfig to include chicago
<location
name="Chicago"
label="Chicago">
<weathersourceinfo id="USIL0225"/>


I think that about covers it. What am I missing?

[salsbst]

If you don't have a file named:
c:\program files\frey technologies\sagetv\net\sf\sageplugins\sagemenu\SageMenuReader.class

then you probably didn't extract the Java class files correctly.

[heffe2001]

Ok, without reading a 12 page post on com skip, what all do I need to install to make that work on this STV? I'm also gonna have to set up my server to use UNC shares for my recorded files (Grrr, KNEW I should have done that to start with).

Also, what do you need to add to the system to support the auto-compression? I'd like to compress some of the kids shows...

[nielm]

Originally posted by heffe2001
Ok, without reading a 12 page post on com skip, what all do I need to install to make that work on this STV?

Also, what do you need to add to the system to support the auto-compression? Auto-recompress info is linked in the feature list in the first post.

Comskip info is in the Wiki (here (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/MaloreSTVComSip) and here (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/ComSkip))

[ikarus79m]

Wow Nielm, this looks really promising. I'm still using Malore's skin but it hasen't been updated in some time so I'm kinda tempted to try something new, even though I really like Malore's work!

Do you think the installation routine of your skin will be combined and made easier at some point or is that simply not possible and I should just live with the installation the way it is?

Let me know :-) It might be worht waiting a little bit if you're gonna include some kind of installation routine.

[BerrantRyke]

:goodjob:

Thank you nielm!!!

WAF is topping out with your STV! Thanks for adding the recordings view I wanted... And com skip is a nice bonus.

Thanks again...

Only thing left on my wish list is SVCD support in SageTV internal DVD player.

[nielm]

Originally posted by ikarus79m
Do you think the installation routine of your skin will be combined and made easier at some point or is that simply not possible and I should just live with the installation the way it is?

I am unlikely to change it in the near future :)

[JasonJoel]

1. Commercial advance works great for me.

2. Love being able to configure all of the menus. NEAT.

3. Already setup the weather suite, also cool.

4. Setup a number of RSS feeds. Works great.

One note, looks like in the DETAILED SETUP -> ENHANCEMENTS section there are TWO listings for "Malore Menus Options". Only one of the two works (the bottom one).

Thanks again!

Jason Bottjen

[White94Cobra]

What am I missing with commercial skip? I can't seem to find anywhere to manually start comskip on a recording. I used to have it working great in the commercial advance beta.

[White94Cobra]

Never mind... it appears you need to be using the Malore recordings guide.

[samson]

Does anyone have the weather conf set up for ny city I just cant get it rt. :confused:

[mightyt]

Originally posted by samson
Does anyone have the weather conf set up for ny city I just cant get it rt. :confused:

Um .... and what city would that be?????????? :confused:

[samson]

New York City

I got it I was looking to deep since new york was already there i guess its time for bed

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
ActionMenuItem sending the sageCommand "Live TV":<actionMenuItem
title="Live TV"
icon="STVs\OriginalV2\mlbdude\Default\mm_epg.png">
<actionList>
<sageCommand command="Live TV"/>
</actionList>
</actionMenuItem>

Thanks a lot for the quick reply Niel ...

BUT ... like others, my thanks is way overshadowed by my appreciation for your amazing commitment to the development of the ultimate STV. :thumbup:

You deserve a ton of credit for turning around some VERY cool updates since you returned from vacation only a short while ago. I can not wait to update my system!! I almost want to take the day off from work ... :D

Before I get started Questions ...

1 - Would you suggest as a best practice to install MlbDude2 and then Nielm 1.3 over it? Is that the simplest way? I am going to hold a copule of brown bags at work and want to make an install recommendation.

2 - When using Commercial Skip ...

White94 said ... Cobra What am I missing with commercial skip? I can't seem to find anywhere to manually start comskip on a recording. I used to have it working great in the commercial advance beta.

Then ...

Never mind... it appears you need to be using the Malore recordings guide.

So, does this mean it will not work with MlbDude2's 2-Pane Recordings screen??

I know oyu haven't tested this. but maybe someone else can tell me.

Again THANKS Neil ... Excellent work ....:goodjob:

[redman]

mightyt,
That looks to be correct. You can only activate commercial detection from the options menu when using Malores recording menu.

Good work nielm.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by redman
mightyt,
That looks to be correct. You can only activate commercial detection from the options menu when using Malores recording menu.

Good work nielm.

Thanks Redman .... but, but, but ... I like MlbDude2's 2 Pane ... :(

Can I whine a little? Will that make a difference?? :rolleyes2

OK ... I'll get over it ... if I must ... it's FFx5 for me :)

T.

[Deadbolt]

Does the web browser, RSS reader, or weather work using the PVR-350 as your only output?

[redman]

Weather and RSS reader works fine, as long as you don't need to launch a browser (i.e. Airport delays - or click on a RSS feed for details)

The output on the PVR-350 will only output the sage screen, so no Web browser.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by redman
Weather and RSS reader works fine, as long as you don't need to launch a browser (i.e. Airport delays - or click on a RSS feed for details)

The output on the PVR-350 will only output the sage screen, so no Web browser.

I am still using v.1.2 and when I click an RSS feed it always lunches the browser ... how do you get it to a Sage screen??

Thanks, T.

[redman]

Sorry, what I meant was that you can view the RSS headlines in sage, but cannot launch a browser to see the articles / details.

To do this I presume we would need to have a new screen in Sage that displays - hopfully I can do this with studio later.

[mightyt]

Hmmm ... I see the RSS feed folders in my Sage, I click them to view the headlines, then I click headlines and the browser launches to the appropriate site ...

T.

[Gaurav]

nielm, great job! I am back to your STV - just couldn't resist it.
Just shows how well mlbdude and malore complement each other.
Of course it took your brain to show that !

I am having a little trouble with the Malore recordings screen.
Every time I start com detect, the left and right panes lose co-ordination.
I have to back out to the main menu and re-enter the recordings screen two times to fix the screen.

[ellweber]

I seem to have comskip working (with some issues relating to spaces in folder names) with the mlbdue recording view. The controls are not as accessible but seem to be sufficient if you don't need to separate some program's behavior from others.

Background Commercial Processing is enabled on the Malore Custom Menu Settings screen which is independent of the recordings view style. It is also available on the Detailed Setup Enhancements screen.

Lynn

[mightyt]

Originally posted by ellweber
I seem to have comskip working (with some issues relating to spaces in folder names) with the mlbdue recording view. The controls are not as accessible but seem to be sufficient if you don't need to separate some program's behavior from others.

Background Commercial Processing is enabled on the Malore Custom Menu Settings screen which is independent of the recordings view style. It is also available on the Detailed Setup Enhancements screen.

Lynn

Thanks Lynn ... OK, I see "Background Commercial Processing: Disabled" in the Detailed Setup > Enhancements > Malore Menus Items. I have never used ComSkip, but I assume if I enable this it will automatically comskip all mpeg2 files in the background.

So are you saying I should enable this and when I play a show from the MlbDude2 2-pane recordings menu that I will be able to skip though the commercials?

In addition, I will not be able to "Commercial Detect" an individual show through the 2 pane? Right?

T.

[mightyt]

Is there a way to turn this off??

Auto-Adjusting number of displayed main menu items (between 6/7 and 9/10 (depending on whether recording schedule is visible)

I'd rather have large text and scroll down vs. see them all is tiny text size ...

Thanks, T.

[nielm]

Originally posted by redman
[Re viewing news articles on PVR-350 out] To do this I presume we would need to have a new screen in Sage that displays - hopfully I can do this with studio later. To do this, you would have to write something that parses the webpage, work out what is the news item, extract the text and then put it in a Sage screen so that it gets displayed on a 350 (or on tv-out but within the Sage environment)...

This parser would have to be different for every news source, and some pretty tricky coding -- which is why I didn't do it!

[nielm]

Originally posted by mightyt
In addition, I will not be able to "Commercial Detect" an individual show through the 2 pane? Right?
T. You cannot start commercial detection on individual shows from anywhere except Malores Sage Recordings menu (which you can add a direct link to in the menu.xml if you want so you have direct access to both SageRecordings screens).

Commercial skip on playback will work from wherever you started playing back the recording.

(yes, I took the lazy method when adding the comskip!)

[nielm]

Originally posted by mightyt
Is there a way to turn this off??

Auto-Adjusting number of displayed main menu items (between 6/7 and 9/10 (depending on whether recording schedule is visible) I wanted to put a numrows property in the XML to be able to make it a per-menu setting but it didn't work...

I might add a a per-menu option in the XML to prevent auto-sizing (personally I like being able to see all of 8 items of malore's custom menus on one page!)

[nielm]

Originally posted by Gaurav
I am having a little trouble with the Malore recordings screen.
Every time I start com detect, the left and right panes lose co-ordination.
I have to back out to the main menu and re-enter the recordings screen two times to fix the screen. I did say that it was untested :)

I have reproduced this, and confirmed that it does not happen on Malore's STV... I will have a look...

[White94Cobra]

Originally posted by nielm
You cannot start commercial detection on individual shows from anywhere except Malores Sage Recordings menu (which you can add a direct link to in the menu.xml if you want so you have direct access to both SageRecordings screens).

Commercial skip on playback will work from wherever you started playing back the recording.

(yes, I took the lazy method when adding the comskip!)

Just the fact that you added Comskip support is more than I (we) expected! Besides, after having to use the Malore menu for a while for the CA beta I got used to it and while not pretty I can see more info in one glance than any other. Thank you again!!

[Coolwave]

nielm, you are unbelievable. I love you for adding malore's comskip. Now I can finally switch to your stv, but I'll have to find time to mess around with all your extras!

Thank you!

[JUC]

thanks so much, we finally get comm skip with all the extras. Mini-guide would make my lady happy though. For now, when I'm home it's your .stv but if my wife is watching i still have to switch to mlbdude's 'cause it's one thing she can't give up from those dish days. Keep it up.
JUC

[heffe2001]

Got Comskip working great, but for some reason can't seem to get the compression working. Never see anything produced in my pickup directory. Anybody got any ideas?

** EDIT ** Got it working, silly me must have edited my properties file when Sage was just asleep not closed... Working fine now.

Another question tho, can you use Comskip & the compression on the same program? Will the player jump to the correct place if the file is compressed after the commercial file is created? Guess I'll find out shortly, hopefully it'll work :p.

** EDIT 2 ** Apparently Comskip & Compression are mutually exclusive. Wonder if the code for comskip could be added to the library module? If it worked on the compressed AVI files, that'd be awesome...

I'm also getting some major blocking on the compressed file, guess I'll ask about that on the compression thread...

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
(yes, I took the lazy method when adding the comskip!)

Um .... 1.3.5 :D

Thanks Niel ... You ARE the man !!!

[mightyt]

Originally posted by nielm
I wanted to put a numrows property in the XML to be able to make it a per-menu setting but it didn't work...

I might add a a per-menu option in the XML to prevent auto-sizing (personally I like being able to see all of 8 items of malore's custom menus on one page!)

Um ... 1.3.6 :D

I like more, but my eyes don't! ;)

Of course I can use your STV as a reason to get approval to get a 60" Flat Panel!!! :goodjob:

Thanks ... T.

[RedCoat999]

I am using the latest and greatest nielm combo. When using the updated Mlbdude recording 2-pane view and not using the video preview, when i select a show, I hear it but don't see it. I have to select the show and select "Watch Now" to see it. If i use the video preview, selecting once starts the video in the preview pane, and selecting again starts it full screen.

Is this a mlbdud bug or a nielm combo bug?
Thanks

[Rob]

Hi Nielm. I started using your STV last week. It's great. Thanks.

Now for the begging. Is there any chance you could fix the bug in mlbdude that prevents the path of the ripped dvd library being sent correctly to the external media player. The bug is discussed on page 23 of the mlbdude2 thread.

http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5755&perpage=20&pagenumber=23

Thanks for the great work. I appreciate it.

[meekell]

I am using the latest and greatest nielm combo. When using the updated Mlbdude recording 2-pane view and not using the video preview, when i select a show, I hear it but don't see it. I have to select the show and select "Watch Now" to see it. If i use the video preview, selecting once starts the video in the preview pane, and selecting again starts it full screen.

Is this a mlbdud bug or a nielm combo bug?

This is a problem in nielm's stv.
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[broderp]

Why are there 2 weather buttons (one says weather, and one says weather suite)??

The weather one does nothing except go to a blank screen and says looking up or downloading information, but never comes back with any, so it just hangs there (not lock up, but never gets any info) The other one works ok, and I managed to FINALLY get my local zip code to work (what a pain in the ....:eek: ) I would adjust one file, nothing, then one file I couldn't adjust at all, until I right clicked and finally edited it, then the program ALWAYS put washington DC first, so I always had to go in and select my area. I finally got rid of all the other areas, and fixed that problem.


Now I don't have any (actually never did) local maps showing up, like they were for DC and the other locations that came by default.


Also, any INSTRUCTIONS on how to customize menus? I cant figure it out, I'd like to delete some stuff from showing up that I don't use or want.

I like the idea of the comercial skip, but does it mean that I have to use MLDUDES skin to use it? what does his skin look like? (the recording screen)

This skin is pretty good, but I have noticed a few new glithes, my show indicators lose parts of the buttons just about every day. The little arrows for play or time indicator disappear partially or flicker.

I also can barely barely read the text on some of the "guides", and as usual, I can't seem to get them to work. What do I need to do to use them?

Stupid questions, but this is partially why I wish I had studio, to make it as detailed, or as non-detailed as I like.

PS.....THIS STV KICKS A$$, if I could "clean it up, it would be perfect!

Good job!:goodjob:

[JasonJoel]

Try this. I've only been using the STV a couple of days, but was able to customize EVERYTHING based on the information in these links. Ok, not quite everything. MLBDUDE and Malore specific features are describing their respective threads.

http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/

http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStv

Hope that helps!!!

Jason Bottjen

Originally posted by broderp
Also, any INSTRUCTIONS on how to customize menus? I cant figure it out, I'd like to delete some stuff from showing up that I don't use or want.

[mightyt]

Originally posted by broderp
Why are there 2 weather buttons (one says weather, and one says weather suite)??

The weather one does nothing except go to a blank screen and says looking up or downloading information, but never comes back with any, so it just hangs there (not lock up, but never gets any info) The other one works ok, and I managed to FINALLY get my local zip code to work (what a pain in the ....:eek: ) I would adjust one file, nothing, then one file I couldn't adjust at all, until I right clicked and finally edited it, then the program ALWAYS put washington DC first, so I always had to go in and select my area. I finally got rid of all the other areas, and fixed that problem.


Now I don't have any (actually never did) local maps showing up, like they were for DC and the other locations that came by default.


Also, any INSTRUCTIONS on how to customize menus? I cant figure it out, I'd like to delete some stuff from showing up that I don't use or want.

I like the idea of the comercial skip, but does it mean that I have to use MLDUDES skin to use it? what does his skin look like? (the recording screen)

This skin is pretty good, but I have noticed a few new glithes, my show indicators lose parts of the buttons just about every day. The little arrows for play or time indicator disappear partially or flicker.

I also can barely barely read the text on some of the "guides", and as usual, I can't seem to get them to work. What do I need to do to use them?

Stupid questions, but this is partially why I wish I had studio, to make it as detailed, or as non-detailed as I like.

PS.....THIS STV KICKS A$$, if I could "clean it up, it would be perfect!

Good job!:goodjob:

Read through this thread ... there was a lot of dialog about weather and weather suite issues.

And yes read the JasonJoel recommended links ...

Oh ... when you make yours perfect, be sure to post it ...

T.

[nielm]

Why are there 2 weather buttons (one says weather, and one says weather suite)??
From the feature list of the first page:
Weather reporting suite with full Weather.com integration, multiple location support and ability to display animated images
Mlbdude-2 weather viewer for backward compatibility (needs mlbdude2 STV installed)


documentation...Try this. http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/

http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStv
These links are also in the first page of this thread... and in the STV itself (Detailed setup->Enhancements->Web site)

As for weather images in local views, see this post
http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showpost.php?p=59086&postcount=32

The Weather report suite is powerful, but with that power comes the complicated customisation. You are free to create a WRS configuration GUI to generate the XML files if you want -- I have been busy on other things.

The malore guides font size is cusomisable....

Compskip can be started for individual files from the MALORE sage recordings menu (which you either can have set as the default sage recording screen, or set up a custom menu item that links directly to it).

I don't know what the 3 malore Guides do either -- I just included them, but don't use them... look at the instructions for malore menus.

[ukmgranger]

Nielm - do only have to download the .STV file to get the latest update?

[nielm]

Nielm - do only have to download the .STV file to get the latest update?STV and java and also icons -- if you have not yet installed mlbdude2) See upgrade post (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showpost.php?p=58600&postcount=1)

[turak]

I don't know what the 3 malore Guides do either -- I just included them, but don't use them... look at the instructions for malore menus.

They allow you to make custom guides. Say you like SciFi shows/movies. You can rename one of the custom guides to SciFi then setup a filter to show only upcoming shows that are catagorized as SciFi. Then set it to group by title. Use the 'options' button/command (Esc key) to bring up the customization menu from within one of these menus.

Edit:
It looks like with the fabulous addition of menus.xml, that renaming menus from the options menu no longer works. To rename these guides you now have to edit the menus.xml

[CMfly]

There is a slight problem with 2 tuner cards. It's showing that I have double the harddrive space remaining as I should.

Is there any way to fix this?

Thanks,
CMfly

[turak]

There is a slight problem with 2 tuner cards. It's showing that I have double the harddrive space remaining as I should.

Is there any way to fix this?

Thanks,
CMfly

Are you sure it's related to multiple tuner cards? I have two PVR-250's in my SageTV server and it reports the correct disk usage.

[CMfly]

Are you sure it's related to multiple tuner cards? I have two PVR-250's in my SageTV server and it reports the correct disk usage.

Nope not sure at all but All I've done is install 2 250-pvr cards then sagetv2 then this stv and now it's showing me having double the harddrive....

Unless the harddrive fairy came in last night when I was sleeping and gave me a new one... (After careful inspection the drive is still 80 gigs and not 160...)

I just assumed it was to do with the 2 tuner cards but I guess it's something else. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
CMfly

[jbuszkie]

Do you have any network drives mounted?
What do you have set for your video directory(s)? Could you have the same drive listed twice perhaps?

That's all I got...

[CMfly]

Hmm I did add 2 folders on the same drive...

Wow thanks for your help I guess I'll stick to one folder for videos.

Thanks!

CMfly

[jbuszkie]

You might also try the "use only" for each folder. That might report the correct disk space....

[broderp]

From the feature list of the first page:




These links are also in the first page of this thread... and in the STV itself (Detailed setup->Enhancements->Web site)

As for weather images in local views, see this post
http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showpost.php?p=59086&postcount=32

The Weather report suite is powerful, but with that power comes the complicated customisation. You are free to create a WRS configuration GUI to generate the XML files if you want -- I have been busy on other things.

The malore guides font size is cusomisable....

Compskip can be started for individual files from the MALORE sage recordings menu (which you either can have set as the default sage recording screen, or set up a custom menu item that links directly to it).

I don't know what the 3 malore Guides do either -- I just included them, but don't use them... look at the instructions for malore menus.

I dont think you guys here get the picture. There is NOTHING in any of those links (wich I printed out every page to use to set up this STV) that tells me WHAT TO DO STEP BY STEP with the menus, no examples, no NOTHING. I'm not a programmer, don't have a clue about XML, JXT,JHS or what ever you guys call all these plugins.

I am so lost as to WHY I need MLDUDES stuff when I don't want his features, I didn't install any thing from his STV, and it seems to work just fine.

I'll admit, I'm not the sharpest tool in the PC programming shed, which is why AGAIN, I feel more people should have access to this studio.

Neilms STV is the closest to what I'm looking for, but I still have NO CLUE on several features, have asked for help, have been told to "read the posts" which I have and my answers STILL are not there.

Please try to see it from my stand point. Most of the tweaking I need to do is BEYOND my capability right now, It's hard to do anything if you don't know the TERMS and the way things work. Telling me I can "customize" my menus is great, but where do I start? You guys assume I know as much as you do, and I'm sure I'm not the only who is lost or has these questions. I may be the only one it seems to post my concerns. :nono:

[nielm]

> I'm not a programmer, don't have a clue about XML,
In the menu configuration page (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_stv/menu.html) there is a link to an XML tutorial which explains what XML is and what the terms tag and attribute mean.

In the Wiki, there is a page with examples of adding new screens new submenus and new programs. (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmStvMenu).

With that and the delivered menu.xml as an example pretty much everyone else here have figured out what to do...

[mightyt]

Please try to see it from my stand point. Most of the tweaking I need to do is BEYOND my capability right now, It's hard to do anything if you don't know the TERMS and the way things work. Telling me I can "customize" my menus is great, but where do I start? You guys assume I know as much as you do, and I'm sure I'm not the only who is lost or has these questions. I may be the only one it seems to post my concerns. :nono:

OK Broderp ... Know that you can do this !!! :D ...

I am not a programmer either and I was able to make this happen to my satisfaction. Just have a little patience, be prepared to look at what you are starting with; such as the menu.xml file. Open it, print it, stare at it for a while, look for patterns or things that repeat and apply logic. Once you get it, you will see that it's not all that bad ...

If you PM me your email, I would be happy to send you some or the methods and sample docs that helped me to get what I wanted. I am still no XML programmer and could not do what these guys here do, but I have my HAPPY Menus!!! :) :) :)

Oh ... and reading the links won't hurt either ...

T.

[DFranch]

Originally Posted by broderp

I am so lost as to WHY I need MLDUDES stuff when I don't want his features, I didn't install any thing from his STV, and it seems to work just fine.

The weather one does nothing except go to a blank screen and says looking up or downloading information, but never comes back with any, so it just hangs there (not lock up, but never gets any info)
The Weather option comes from mlbdude's STV. If you never installed it, it will not work in nielm's STV.


Originally Posted by broderp

Stupid questions, but this is partially why I wish I had studio, to make it as detailed, or as non-detailed as I like.

I'll admit, I'm not the sharpest tool in the PC programming shed, which is why AGAIN, I feel more people should have access to this studio.
I'm only guessing, but I don't think that Studio will be the magic bullet to solve all of your problems? It will probably help you design custom menus and screens, but it seems that most of the advanced options being developed are being written in XML and JAVA among other things. So Studio will not help you to configure things like the weather suite, or video compression, or sommercial skip.

[nielm]

Just to let you know that the new forum software has an RSS feed which is compatible with my RSS reader, so you can browse the latest posts from within SAGE!
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss
(there is also an RSS2 feed which works less well -- i will work on that! http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss2)

[JasonJoel]

Cool. Works great.

Jason

Just to let you know that the new forum software has an RSS feed which is compatible with my RSS reader, so you can browse the latest posts from within SAGE!
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss
(there is also an RSS2 feed which works less well -- i will work on that! http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss2)

[mightyt]

Just to let you know that the new forum software has an RSS feed which is compatible with my RSS reader, so you can browse the latest posts from within SAGE!
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss
(there is also an RSS2 feed which works less well -- i will work on that! http://forums.sage.tv/forums/external.php?type=rss2)

Dude, only 2 days in to the new forum ... You are always on it !!!

Very cool Nielm ... :clap:

T.

[remmy925]

Just wanted to thank you for fixing the fonts on your menus. I am now more than happy to use your stv. Only change i needed to make was to tell Sage to use Firefox instead of Opera. Once I figure out how to change the preset cities in the weather section and I am set. Your continued efforts make this a better and better Media Center every day.

[Deadbolt]

I have just tried this STV. I really like the weather and the layout. I am having speed problems though. I have an AMD 2500 w/ 512 MB RAM. I am using a PVR-350 output and I get huge lags/pauses between commands. Has anyone else seen this? It is unusable right now. The Malore skin has no problems...although I see this at times with the beta Malore skin with Comskip.

Thanks!

[Jere_Jones]

nielm,

Can you check for any differences in how comskip is launched in your STV? It seems to work fine if it runs automatically, but trying to run it via Malore's recordings list and it doesn't seem to be able to find the .ini file.

If it's a problem with comskip, I'll be happy to fix it, but I don't know what to fix since I don't know how it is being launched.

Thanks,
Jere

[White94Cobra]

Interesting... for me it's the other way around. It runs fine when run manually, but won't start automatically. When I was running the beta CA STV it worked great both ways. In fact, after two nights all of my recordings had been "comskipped." Now, even after running it for a couple of weeks, I still have about 25% of my recordings with no CA.

[Jere_Jones]

Please note that if comskip doesn't find any commercials it will still produce a .txt file but it will be empty. If it's empty, the list won't show [CA], but since a .txt exist it won't rerun comskip either.

Jere

[White94Cobra]

I didn't realize that (although it would be nice if it showed CA anyway just so we don't manually run it again). While I didn't check for empty .txt files I did run it manually on a few of the shows and it did find and mark commercials. Some of the shows were recorded over a month ago so comskip should have run on them automatically by now.

I can still manually comskip stuff and most of the time it's very accurate. I've noticed when it isn't accurate (maybe 10% of the time), it isn't even close. Many times it either doesn't mark the whole commercial (it skips the first two but not the last three) or it is accurate through the first half of the show but no commercials are marked at all in the second half. I can't wait to try the new version.

[Jere_Jones]

In addition to my previous post:

If an empty .txt file exists, the option to run commercial skip should not show up on the options menu. So... if the show is old and the option to run comskip is there, then something went wrong. Go ahead and run it.

Also, you can (via the options menu) change the sort options to "one group" and then run "Commercial Detect All" and it should run comskip on all shows that don't already have a .txt file.

Jere