SageTV and SageTV Client v1.3 now available

[dkardatzke]

Version 1.3 of SageTV and the SageTV Client are now available. You can purchase the SageTV Client for only $24.95 a copy for a limited time (regular price will be $29.95 in a few weeks) through our online store www.sage.tv/buy.html.

To view what's been added for version 1.3 and to upgrade to the latest version go to www.sage.tv/v13download.html. To see a full list of features for SageTV and the SageTV client go to www.sage.tv/stvfeatures.html.

Enjoy!
Dan

[JasonJoel]

Awesome.

I take it from the release notes that Streamzap remote support did not make it for v1.3? No big deal, gives me an excuse really figure out Girder (since it has a plugin for the remote).

Jason

[dkardatzke]

You are correct, the streamzap support didn't make it in. We will try to figure it out for v1.4.

[JasonJoel]

No problem! Keep up the good work, I'm sure it isn't real high on the priority list anyway as not that many people have it.

Jason


Originally posted by dkardatzke
You are correct, the streamzap support didn't make it in. We will try to figure it out for v1.4.

[olyar15]

Do I have to uninstall the previous version, or can I just run the installer and install on top of the old version?

[dkardatzke]

You can run the installer on top of the old version. You also need to be running the same version of the Client and the Server.

[Omegadsl]

I looked at the release notes but I saw no mention of this:

Was the .mpg import issue addressed in this release? If not, has any progress been made? Thanks in advance :).

[Narflex]

All .mpg import issues that were previously discussed were resolved for 1.3.8. If you're still having problems, then it's more than likely due to having a bad demultiplexor installed on your system from another piece of software (Elecard and ULead are two that have caused problems for people).

[justme]

Love the new release.:D One weird thing though, when the install finished it failed to load the documentation. Acrobat started and then said unable to find file, no such file exists. In a manual search with a file explorer, I could not find the documentation either. No Biggy. :)

I do a have a feature request and two questions:

Feature request:Could you add an option to the properties file to allow SageTV to be minimized to the system tray rather than exitting when you click on the X(close window button)?
I don't know how many times I've accidently closed Sage when I really just meant to put it to sleep.

Question1:My mouse pointer never dissappears when I'm watching TV ot a recorded show. It does however dissappear(after mouse inactive) when I'm in the UI. I have tried diffenent Codecs and it doesn't make any difference. Is this the normal behavior, or does my sytem have some weird bug?

Question2:Out of curiousity. Why is this version so much larger than than the previous release, or even the most recent beta?

Keep up the awesome work. It's like a little gift every time there is a new version to download.:D

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
All .mpg import issues that were previously discussed were resolved for 1.3.8. If you're still having problems, then it's more than likely due to having a bad demultiplexor installed on your system from another piece of software (Elecard and ULead are two that have caused problems for people).

I can't import any files that SageTV records. I can paste them from the Video folder to an import folder (without modifying them in any way) and they will not show up in my library. I can import .avi and .mp3 files without any problems. I had Ulead DVD Workshop installed and I uninstalled it. Any idea why this would still be giving me a problem? Let me know if you want log files.

[Omegadsl]

Is there any other software I could remove (perhaps some other program is conflicting) or something else I could try? Is anyone else completely unable to import the .mpg files that SageTV records?

[Narflex]

Search your entire hard drive for all .ax files. Then post the list here, I'll tell you which one is the offending filter and how to remove it.

(the latest version is larger because the manual got a lot bigger)

Thanks,

[JJarmoc]

How is the client licensed? Do I have to apply the license to the client at install time, or is it a seat licensing model where the license would be installed on the server?

[Narflex]

Client licenses are installed on the client.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
Search your entire hard drive for all .ax files. Then post the list here, I'll tell you which one is the offending filter and how to remove it.

(the latest version is larger because the manual got a lot bigger)

Thanks,

Okay, this is the list of all the .ax files on my HD (some of them are repeated a few times):

iviaudio.ax
MMswitch.ax
mpgaudio.ax
MMSwitch.ax
mpgaudio
hcwcconv.ax
hcwprxp2.ax
ffdshow.ax
acelpdec.ax
bdaplgin.ax
divxdec.ax
g711codc.ax
hcwFRead.ax
hcwFWrit.ax
hcwPrxP2.ax
hcwSnap.ax
hcwSplit.ax
ipsink.ax
ksolay.ax
ksproxy.ax
kstvtune.ax
kswdmcap.ax
ksxbar.ax
l3codecx.ax
mpeg2data.ax
mpg2splt.ax
mpg4ds32.ax
msadds32.ax
msdvbnp.ax
msscds32.ax
psisrndr.ax
vbisurf.ax
wiasf.ax
wmv8ds32.ax
wmvds32.ax
xvid.ax
claud.ax
claudfx.ax
Cldxva.ax
clvsd.ax
Deinterlace.ax
MPEG2Dump.ax
MpegDeMux.ax
MpegMux.ax
MusicVisFilter.ax
myasyncflt.ax
smaudio.ax
bdaplgin.ax
ipsink.ax
ksolay.ax
ksproxy.ax
kstvtune.ax
kswdmcap.ax
ksxbar.ax
msdvbnp.ax
psisrndr.ax
ksolay.ax
ksproxy.ax
mpg2splt.ax
bdaplgin.ax
ipsink.ax
kstvtune.ax
kswdmcap.ax
ksxbar.ax
mpeg2data.ax
msdvbnp.ax
psisrndr.ax
vbisurf.ax
IviAudio_Hauppauge.ax
IviVideo_Hauppauge.ax

Do you think it would be safe to reinstall Ulead DVD Workshop? I kinda like it on this computer but if I have to I'll install it on a different machine, I will. Thanks.

[Omegadsl]

Also, my installation of SageTV just somehow got corrupted again. It wouldn't remember scheduled recordings after restart and the music library hanging issues returned. I am reinstalling as I write this (that fixed this problem last time) :).

[Narflex]

There's probably a corrupted registry entry somewhere for a demux that isn't on the system anymore. I don't see any non-MS demuxes in that list.

Using GraphEdit, you can look at the list of DirectShow filters and see if any are specified on there that say MPEG2 Demux or (elecard demux or ulead demux). There might be one specified but who's file doesn't exist.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
There's probably a corrupted registry entry somewhere for a demux that isn't on the system anymore. I don't see any non-MS demuxes in that list.

Using GraphEdit, you can look at the list of DirectShow filters and see if any are specified on there that say MPEG2 Demux or (elecard demux or ulead demux). There might be one specified but who's file doesn't exist.

Okay, I downloaded Graphedit, ran the exe, selected "graph" ----> "insert filters" --->and then selected "DirectShow Filters." In the resulting list I see one entry for "Mpeg-2 Demultiplexer." Is this a problem? I see no entries for Ulead. Am I looking in the correct place?

[EDIT] I also see an entry for "DV Muxer" if that means anything.

[Narflex]

That entries OK. Here's something else to try. Using GraphEdit, select File->Render File. Then select one of the files you're trying to import. Post a screen shot of the graph that it creates.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
That entries OK. Here's something else to try. Using GraphEdit, select File->Render File. Then select one of the files you're trying to import. Post a screen shot of the graph that it creates.

I hope I did this correctly :):

[Omegadsl]

Do you think that this .mpg issue is somehow causing my installation to become corrupted (The problems with not remembering scheduled recordings after restart and the music library crashes)?

[rrussell]

Omegadsl & Narflex:

Thank you guys for attacking the mpg import problem. I keep planning to try some of that stuff on my machine, but life keeps getting in the way.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

R

[Narflex]

That Morgan Stream Switcher looks highly suspicious. Do you know what it is?

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
That Morgan Stream Switcher looks highly suspicious. Do you know what it is?

I've no idea. I'll look into it and post back in a few.

[Omegadsl]

When I right-click on it in the graph and select properties, it reads:

This filter allows you to use multiple-language AVIs in Windows Media Player and to switch audio streams on the fly.

Go in the 'Language' menu of Windows Media Player to select the active audio stream.

http://www.morgan-multimedia.com

Doesn't it seem like it's for AVI's?

[Narflex]

Remove it, whatever it is. DirectShow is inserting it unnecessarily by default. There's probably something 'morgan' related in your add/remove program.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
Remove it, whatever it is. DirectShow is inserting it unnecessarily by default. There's probably something 'morgan' related in your add/remove program.

What would be the easiest way to do this? There is nothing with the name "Morgan" in my add/remove. I searched my HD for the word Morgan but I found nothing.

[Omegadsl]

Ahhh, I know what it is now but it's most likely not the problem. This is something that is installed when you install the AC3 filter pack off of Doom9.net. I downloaded that just yesterday and this .mpg problem goes back before that :(.

[Omegadsl]

Here's what the graph looks like without the Morgan thing installed:

[Omegadsl]

Removing the filter didn't fix it (I just reinstalled and tried again).

[Omegadsl]

Do you have any other suggestions, Narflex? Also, rrussell, would you by any chance have mpeg2vcr installed?

[rrussell]

mpeg2vcr? Doesn't ring a bell - nothing like that in my add/remove programs list.

My graphedit diagram looks just like yours w/out the morgan thing. Only difference is that I have the CyberLink audio and video decoders.

No more ULEAD on the system. There's a "NanoPEG" mpeg editor and I do have the DivX codec installed.

I'll try i nstalling the 1.3 release next.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by rrussell
mpeg2vcr? Doesn't ring a bell - nothing like that in my add/remove programs list.

My graphedit diagram looks just like yours w/out the morgan thing. Only difference is that I have the CyberLink audio and video decoders.

No more ULEAD on the system. There's a "NanoPEG" mpeg editor and I do have the DivX codec installed.

I'll try i nstalling the 1.3 release next.

Good luck. The 1.3 release didn't seem to resolve this issue for me. Perhaps our problems are caused by differing factors. It shall be interesting to see if yours is resolved with 1.3. This way I'll know if there is just something wrong with my setup.

[justme]

Hi Omegadsl,

I have been watching your difficulties. Just to try to help you eliminate some things, I have just successfully imported a SageTV created mpeg into the Library. I do have Womble's MPEG2VCR on my machine. Oh, I'm running the latest official SageTV release. No client installed. I hope some of this info is of help to you or Narflex.:)

[ruel]

Thanks for the new SageTV 1.3.8 -- it's working happily under Win98SE on my system. Now I don't have to do the harddrive swapping to switch between Win98SE and WinXP anymore. And no channel-changing sound sync problems from what I can tell. You must have everything licked for the Creative VB DVCR card now even though the card isn't being sold anymore except maybe on Ebay. I should be updating my webpage sometime soon. With SageTV working much better for me, and with the season finales all done, I think I can more actively play with SageTV some more on a more consistent basis. :cool::cool::cool:

[justme]

Narflex said:
(the latest version is larger because the manual got a lot bigger)

Ok, but as I said in first part of this post. (http://www.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4611#post4611) My install failed to find the documentation. I downloaded the trial today, in case some thing was corrupt in my first download. However whenever I try to run it, it see's the current install and aborts. It says to uninstall and reinstall. I don't want to lose all my configurations. :(

Is there any way around this? Can I just download the documentation seperately?

[dkardatzke]

We rebuilt the installer late yesterday and the manuals are back to normal size. The new installers are available on our website.

justme, before you try installing the same version of any Sage application make sure you uninstall the old one first. It will NOT delete your configuration or database files. Then install the new version. If that doesn't work, send an e-mail to info@freytechnologies.com to request a copy of the manual.

[Omegadsl]

Is there anything else that I can try? I'm really stumped about this .mpg import issue. Please let me know if there's something I can do to help resolve it.

[Narflex]

Have you installed DX9 yet? Maybe something is bad in your DX install, upgrading to DX9 could fix it.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
Have you installed DX9 yet? Maybe something is bad in your DX install, upgrading to DX9 could fix it.

Yeah, I had DX9 installed before I installed SageTV. Curiously, why do you think it might be a DX issue?

[Narflex]

Because it's failing on a basic DirectX function. There's a simple DirectX call that I use to determine the duration of a file, if that fails then I don't import it. That's where yours is failing.

You've tried deleting your Wiz.bin/bak & Sage.properties files to fix the problem, haven't you? (a bad file entry in the DB could also cause a load to fail) I think I recall you trying that back when this first happened to you....

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
Because it's failing on a basic DirectX function. There's a simple DirectX call that I use to determine the duration of a file, if that fails then I don't import it. That's where yours is failing.

You've tried deleting your Wiz.bin/bak & Sage.properties files to fix the problem, haven't you? (a bad file entry in the DB could also cause a load to fail) I think I recall you trying that back when this first happened to you....

Yep, I've uninstalled and deleted the program folder a number of times.

[Omegadsl]

Rrussell, did you get around to installing 1.3 yet? I'm going nuts trying to get my .mpgs to import and I don't want to be the only one :D. Misery loves company ;).

[Omegadsl]

Jeff, do you know why it would be that at one point (when this problem began), 7 of the 8 .mpg files I was trying to import actually imported? I sent you an e-mail concerning that development but I never recieved a reply. It seemed to import 7 of them when I moved the import directory location. I haven't been able to recreate this since and I was wondering if you looked into it. Thanks again for trying to figure this out.

[rrussell]

Hi, guys -

I installed 1.3 last night and tried importing my MP3 library (locked it up when I went to the "List by album" button) but haven't checked the MPGs again.

(To be honest, I deleted most of them anyway since I've either watched or don't care about them anymore.)

I'll check again tonight and see if the one straggler made it in.

R

[Narflex]

I looked into the problem, and my conclusion was that you've got some weird anomally in your system that's not related to my software; but is manifesting itself in my software. :)

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by Narflex
I looked into the problem, and my conclusion was that you've got some weird anomally in your system that's not related to my software; but is manifesting itself in my software. :)

Feaky stuff. I just did a clean install a few weeks ago too. I will probably format and reinstall later this week if rrussell's issue goes away when he tries to import an .mpg into the new version. Is his issue the same as mine, btw?

[rrussell]

Omega - what's your hard/software setup? (mine is a VIA Epia M9000 with a PVR250 and 256M of RAM under WinXP Home, DX9)

Last night I spent time trying to burn SVCDs and found that nero's mpeg2 encoder could not read most of my mpegs as well (even those created under SageTV).

Not only is that disappointing from the standpoint of not being able to dump shows to CD, but it indicates that maybe there really IS something wrong with the mpeg files.

I will try to reimport some of them tonight (with 1.3) and see what happens.

[Omegadsl]

Originally posted by rrussell
Omega - what's your hard/software setup? (mine is a VIA Epia M9000 with a PVR250 and 256M of RAM under WinXP Home, DX9)

Last night I spent time trying to burn SVCDs and found that nero's mpeg2 encoder could not read most of my mpegs as well (even those created under SageTV).

Not only is that disappointing from the standpoint of not being able to dump shows to CD, but it indicates that maybe there really IS something wrong with the mpeg files.

I will try to reimport some of them tonight (with 1.3) and see what happens.

Here's my setup (possibly relevant stuff included):

My hardware setup is:
P4@2.4
512 PC2700
Asus P4PE (using the onboard sound)
WD 100GB HD (8MB cache)
Radeon 9700
PVR 250

Software:
Windows XP Pro
DX9
Newest SageTV release

There's nothing actually wrong with my .mpg files, though. I burn them to DVD all the time. I have had no sync issues or anything like that.

Good luck with the import. I look foward to seeing what happens.

[Omegadsl]

Okay, the way SageTV is handling the .mpgs that it makes itself is the problem for me. I have just imported a random .mpg file that I downloaded from the internet without any problems. Any ideas on why this would be?

[rrussell]

Maybe there's something in the format that the 250 is encoding them in?

Would it be beyond Hauppauge to put something a little proprietary into their files?

That just seems weird, though, since WMP plays 'em just fine. I don't get it.

[Omegadsl]

rrussell, when you get a chance, try importing one of the .mpg files from this page:

http://www.hhtv.org.uk/videos.htm

Let me know if it works (it worked for me). Also, what PVR250 drivers are you using?

[Omegadsl]

Oops, it seems I can only import mpeg1 clips successfully. I downloaded a random mpeg2 clip and that didn't import :(.

I also tried a repair install of Windows XP Pro. That didn't help either.

[justme]

Last night I spent time trying to burn SVCDs and found that nero's mpeg2 encoder could not read most of my mpegs as well (even those created under SageTV).

What versionof nero are you using? Didn't a recent version have a flaw in the MPEG encoder?

Best of luck with your situation Omegadsl.

[rrussell]

Okaaaay.. let's see.

Hauppauge driver version 1.16.11.20347 from the device management screens.

"Aircraft1.mpg" from that site imported fine. And, suddenly, the enterprise episode I've been wanting to import (the only one left, really) imported. "From Hell," however, did not.

Feh! Feh, I say!

It's Nero 5.5.10.35 with the mpeg2 encoder plugin. I don't know anything about it having any problems. I'm just a little cheesed off 'coz I had to pay for the plugin and it doesn't solve my problem. But that's got nothing to do with anyone here ;-)

The thing is that it DID burn one mpg for me. Just, not the one I wanted to burn. (That is, I wanted to burn it at the time as a test, but I don't really care about saving it long-term.)