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nielm
10-26-2004, 05:54 AM
These are various importable modules for SageTV 2.1 (you were wondering what that Detailed Setup item 'Import STV file' did!)

IMPORTANT Please read the General Installation Instructions (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModulesInstall) before using these modules.


Dynamic customisable main menu (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleDynamicMenu) (v2.4 -- last update Oct 29)
As seen in my 2.0 STV, but with several improvements allowing you to add/remove menu items from within Sage itself.


Rss Newsreader (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleRssNews) (last update Nov 4)
As seen in my 2.0 STV -- the abilty to read RSS newsfeeds in Sage


Imdb Search (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleImdbSearch) (last update Jan 07)
As seen in my 2.0 STV - the ability to search the IMDB from Sage



Default Record Padding (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleDefaultPadding) (last update Oct 26)
Enables the specification of a default padding to be added to all new manual recordings and favorites


Delete Partial Recordings (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleDeletePartials) (last update Oct 26)
A simple way of cleaning up all the partial recordings that get left behind when Intelligent Recording is enabled.


Note that some of these create new internal screens, and there is no way of switching to these screens without using the Dynamic customisable main menu (http://www.sage-community.org/index.cgi/wiki/NielmModuleDynamicMenu).

Note2: These have only been tested with OriginalV2...

History
4 Nov 2004 updated RSS news: fixed a bug relating to pasting new feed from clipboard.

Dec 21 2004: updated IMDB search : IMDB site update -- fixed parser. Also fixed the annoying bug whereby you cannot go 'back' when there was only one result.

Jan 03 2005: updated IMDB search (again) -- fixed parsing of search results,

Jan 07 2005: updated IMDB search -- include year/type in search results (java), improved trimming of directories from imported video files (stv)

Apr 20 2005: updated IMDB search -- fix bug where when search returns a single result, going back from the result crashes the UI

nielm
10-26-2004, 05:55 AM
Of course, Cayars' STV makes some of these redundant as he already includes them in a more integrated format...

nielm
10-26-2004, 08:42 AM
If you downloaded the imdb seach/rssnews/dynamic menu before the time of this post, you will need to re-download: I messed up the zipfiles... Sorry....

kny3twalker
10-26-2004, 11:17 AM
pretty cool
nice job

Stuntman
10-26-2004, 12:09 PM
I just did a clean install of the latest SageTV beta and then insalled the 2.1 modules as per the instructions.. I don't see the padding add-in.. when I go to the "Enhancements" area I see nothing in there.. I've tried re-importing it, and it is still not there.. Tried stopping and starting Sage and it's service.. still not there.. any ideas?

nielm
10-26-2004, 12:45 PM
I don't see the padding add-in.. when I go to the "Enhancements" area I see nothing in there.. bug (dammit -- I swear I tested this to death!) fixed and re-uploaded...

sting7777
10-27-2004, 07:16 AM
these are great - thanks! i am using all of these on top of a clean OriginalV2

any chance of a local weather plug-in? or is there an easy way to do that already? I like how easy these plug-ins are to get working/install.

nielm
10-28-2004, 07:44 PM
I have updated the dynamic main menu import to fix something that has been annoying me for ages!

Each submenu now remembers which item was selected last, and the focus will be returned to that item when you return to the menu (requires 2.1.9RC6)

TiltRod
10-28-2004, 10:37 PM
nielm,

is a comskip module possible? that's the only thing that seems to be missing. My other users like the mcexcon stv but also would like the comskip option.

--d

briands
10-29-2004, 09:39 AM
nielm,

is a comskip module possible? that's the only thing that seems to be missing. My other users like the mcexcon stv but also would like the comskip option.

--d
Second!!! Comskip limits my STV options significantly and I understand the reluctance of the developers to include it into the default STV. Perhaps they could incorporate a "Censor cut" feature that would allow the playing file to skip "offensive" material. This feature could be controlled by a txt file of the same name as the media file. The text file would include segments of frames to be skipped during playback. The creation of this txt file would be up to the user (or STV developer).

The commercial detection algorythms would still be configurable by the end user, even to the point of manually generating the file.

It would be nice, too, if sage would delete this (or any other file) with the same name when deleting the media file.

danward79
10-29-2004, 11:10 AM
Niel,

I am using your stv at the moment, cool work, all I use is the menu and the imdb search stuff.

I have put together a complete NetRemote ccf for my whole system, for use on my pda. I am missing something thou. What I would really like, is for everytime a sage command is used, such as play, pause, stop, fwd, rwd, etc for it to send a event to girder. do you think that is possible, using studio etc?

I was thinking that if you can get the play command to execute a command, it could just send a payload of for example "play", etc.

If it is possible would it take a lot of effort to incorporate this, in your stv?

If it is not possible do you have any ideas?

Cheers

Dan

danward79
11-01-2004, 03:04 AM
Anyone? :confused:

nielm
11-01-2004, 05:49 AM
What I would really like, is for everytime a sage command is used, such as play, pause, stop, fwd, rwd, etc for it to send a event to girder.it sounds like you want to do:
netremote->sage->Girder...
(ie Sage recieves the netremote commands directly, and you want to send them to Girder)
Why not do it the other way around:
netremote->Girder->{Sage,other app, whatever}?

(technically it is possible to modify every single point a command is received to execute girder's event.exe, but practically, it is not sensible (image the load while holding down FF!), and it would be a lot of work)

danward79
11-01-2004, 07:20 AM
Hi Neil,

What I do at the moment, is NetRemote - > Girder - > Sagetv.

All I want is some sort of feed back. to NR via girder. Would it be possible to do something for stop / play and pause?

How would you go about acheiving something like this?

Thanks

Dan

nielm
11-01-2004, 11:19 AM
It would have to be an STV modification and it would be a lot of work (assuming you what NR to know when a video is playing/paused, there are a lot of places where a video can be started and stopped)...

danward79
11-01-2004, 11:58 AM
Can't it just be based upon the play / pause state of the software? Rather than the video.

I have got the NR / Girder side of things sorted. I have got the same thing going for zoomplayer and my video jukebox. Also got same thing for my audio (music) side of things.

The state information is used to change the button for play and pause in a toggling manner. So when it is Playing, pause is displayed, and when it is Paused, play is shown.

Anyway Thanks for the info, will wait for studio to be released...

Dan

Opus4
11-01-2004, 12:24 PM
The state information is used to change the button for play and pause in a toggling manner. So when it is Playing, pause is displayed, and when it is Paused, play is shown.So, it switches functionality of which command is sent? Why not just use SageTV's "Play/Pause" command, which toggles between those states?

- Andy

danward79
11-01-2004, 02:09 PM
Because it is all about feedback, another words confirmation of a command you send.

Deadbolt
11-03-2004, 05:17 PM
Does this STV support comskip? for some reason I get only malore Sage Recordings and get no comskip auto or manual?????

mls
11-03-2004, 05:27 PM
Does this STV support comskip? for some reason I get only malore Sage Recordings and get no comskip auto or manual?????

I believe everything is there for comskip, but you probably need to configure it to work right. See the first post for instructions. I don't use it so I don't know if it works or not in this STV.

nielm
11-04-2004, 12:36 AM
This is not an STV -- these are patch modules to add specific functionality to an OriginalV2-based STV.. so no.

Deadbolt
11-04-2004, 05:26 AM
Is there a way to get the your two pane (and top description) Nielm Recordings with the blue status bar, green notation of new recordings, and numbers of episodes in the left column? I miss that and comskip bad!

Cayars
11-04-2004, 07:00 AM
Couple of issues with News plugin.
When pasting from the clipboard the confirmation screen says "No, yes" , the yes should probably be capped.

Secondly, just moving up or down the list of news feeds marks them as read. They should only be marked read if you launch the news story.

nielm
11-04-2004, 07:52 AM
Couple of issues with News plugin.
When pasting from the clipboard the confirmation screen says "No, yes" , the yes should probably be capped.true... I have also fixed a bug regarding this...
Secondly, just moving up or down the list of news feeds marks them as read. They should only be marked read if you launch the news story.actually, that is deliberate so that you can just browse the headlines, and then see if any new headlines have arrived. It matches the behaviour of several other RSS newsreaders.

JasonJoel
11-04-2004, 09:24 AM
Agreed. It SHOULD mark them as READ when you browse them. Every RSS reader I've used works that way.

Jason

true... I have also fixed a bug regarding this...
actually, that is deliberate so that you can just browse the headlines, and then see if any new headlines have arrived. It matches the behaviour of several other RSS newsreaders.

mostlyfodder
11-08-2004, 07:59 PM
hey nielm i just wanted to say thanks for the customizeable main menu importable module. easy to set up and has enabled people besides myself to use my media pc. oh and it's stable as pie, too. (that's stable) in fact, your mod caused me to switch several menu items i had in meedio over to sage. (i.e. pictures & videos).
-fodder

nielm
11-09-2004, 01:17 AM
thanks :cool:

KJake
11-10-2004, 09:55 PM
So, has the issue of importing the custom menu been brought up yet?
I've imported it into the MCE STV and it replaced a lot of things with the default OriginalV2 look. I'm sure this isn't the intent of this new plug-ig arch. that Frey is developing...so I'm wondering if it is controllable by how nielm is 'exporting' the feature from Studio, or if this is an all around problem with Studio that's being worked on.

nielm
11-11-2004, 01:38 AM
I am not surprised... as I mentioned in the instructions, the modules are only tested with the OriginalV2 STV. (as it tries to use things already in this STV)... MCE is a completely new STV, so the import will not work.
(think of them more as patches than plugins)

KJake
11-11-2004, 08:50 AM
You're right, patch is more appropriate of a term in this case. I hope Jeff is working towards a plug-in architecture because it seems like these patches can 'break' things in an STV if not used carefully.

mostlyfodder
11-11-2004, 05:36 PM
i never thought i'd say this, but i just made meedio a launchable option from sage. sage's hardware-accelerated graphical menus are so slick. i've had it the other way around for months, but i finally can have the nice, simple sage menus i need.

:) will post again when i switch it back. i've been on a major configuration bug lately and i think it's the fall weather.

mostlyfodder
12-16-2004, 11:53 AM
nielm-

your custom menu allows access to sagetv internal screens and commands that aren't otherwise retreivable without browsing through sage menus.

can you think of an easy way to call those screens without specifically adding them to a custom menu created w/ your import module?

i'm using some custom menus, but i'd like to call some internal screens for my own use while still hiding them from the casual user.

just wondering.. thanks-
-fod

i know these screens are not available via the sendmsg app that someone created. but, i do know that that app can be used to string together multiple windows messages. this would be one way to solve the above problem, but i hadn't thought of that idea when i started this post :)

nielm
12-17-2004, 02:57 AM
Mostlyfodder: I am not entirely sure what you are asking, but to get to a screen, it either needs a shortcut key (eg TV Guide, Sage Recordings) or an entry somewheer in the menu tree..
If you want to 'hide' something, you could put it several levels deep :)

mostlyfodder
12-17-2004, 07:03 PM
nielm,

i'm referring to the screens that you allow us to add as menu items by either choosing to 'ADD CUSTOM COMMAND' or 'ADD INTERNAL SCREEN'. some of those screens are NOT specifically programmable with a keyboard shortcut, but are (as you mentioned) only available by browsing the sage menu tree.

what i'm looking for is a way to call those screens, perhaps with a sendmessage command or something, WITHOUT having to browse to them in the menu tree.

i have a super simple menu system that i'm very happy with, thanks to you, but i'd like to be able to call up a few hidden screens (without just burying them deeper in the menu tree.)

and i know those screens are accessible, because your custom menu module exposes them, and i was wondering how you did that. the magic of java? ideally i'd like to use a sendmessage command or something to be able to call up any screen in sage but i know that's not possible right now.

i hope that explains what i'm looking for. i think it amounts to a feature request :)

thanks,
fodder

nielm
12-18-2004, 11:27 AM
unfortunatly,the magic of java is only to read the XML file and present the contents in a format that Sage can read.
It is the magic of Studio that does the switching to different screens, and there is no other way of doing it...

kayest
12-21-2004, 01:48 PM
Nielm, Thanks for this great STV. Since installing it, I do have one minor problem. During playback I can no longer see the current time counter in the time status bar. I only get the word "Time":

http://www.h-i-r-d.com/timebar.JPG

Am I doing something stupid?

-Steve

nielm
12-21-2004, 01:54 PM
Which of the modules are you using, and which STV did you import them into?
This problem (I think) occurred when you used a 2.0 STV in 2.1 (or the other way around)

Opus4
12-21-2004, 02:55 PM
This problem (I think) occurred when you used a 2.0 STV in 2.1 (or the other way around)Yes & it is the first one -- it occurs when using a v2.0 STV in v2.1/2.2. (At least that was the only time I ever saw it.)

- Andy

nielm
12-21-2004, 03:17 PM
I have fixed the bug in IMDB search that prevented results from being found/shown...
It looks like the IMDB is changing its search engine, so I don't know how long this fix will last...

I also fixed an issue in the importable STV which means that you could never go 'back' when there was only 1 result to the search...

For those of you using Cayar's or MCEXCON's STVs, just download the zipfile (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/imdb_search_import.zip), unpack it into your Sage directory, and restart Sage.

mostlyfodder
12-21-2004, 04:48 PM
unfortunatly,the magic of java is only to read the XML file and present the contents in a format that Sage can read.
It is the magic of Studio that does the switching to different screens, and there is no other way of doing it...

ok thanks for replying and for the great STV-

vuego
01-02-2005, 01:53 PM
I have fixed the bug in IMDB search that prevented results from being found/shown...
It looks like the IMDB is changing its search engine, so I don't know how long this fix will last...

Maybe IMDB got their new search engine. When I search for a title I get only the "Other Results" and not "Popular Results" i.e http://www.imdb.com/find?q=Butterfly%20Effect (http://www.imdb.com/find?q=Butterfly%20Effect%20;tt=on;nm=on;mx=20)
It'll show everything but the title I'm searching for.

Also it would be cool to see the year and type (V,VG etc) in Sage.

nielm
01-04-2005, 03:06 PM
I have re-fixed the bug in IMDB search that prevented all the search results from being found/shown... It also shows the year and type (V/VG) in the results.

For those of you using Cayar's or MCEXCON's STVs, just download the zipfile (http://www.sage-community.org/~nielm/nielm_modules/imdb_search_import.zip), unpack it into your Sage directory, and restart Sage.

vuego
01-05-2005, 03:15 PM
I don't have access to the file...?

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~nielm/nielm_modules/imdb_search_import.zip on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

nielm
01-06-2005, 12:21 AM
just checking that my work gets used :)

Fixed now!

vuego
01-06-2005, 05:16 PM
ahhh thats a classic :)

I love this feature and use it all the time.

However I still don't see the year and type in search results. I just unzipped the file into the main Sage directory overwriting all files. I also tried to import the module into a new STV. I know something got updated bcuz "popular results" is now being showed.

Is it possible to choose what categories to show? I'd like to change Quotes for Goofs and add Movie Connections.

nielm
01-07-2005, 04:37 AM
Damn. Looks like I uploaded an interrim verision No idea how that happened.. Will fix it tonight...

Re other categories... Each page needs to be downloaded, the HTML parsed and then presented to Sage to display... so if you want to write the Java, I will include it, but I have no plans at them moment!

vuego
01-07-2005, 07:58 AM
Thanks Nielm
I'll just learn Java first then I'll help coding :)

I found another strange behaviour. When searching from Video Details of an imported video file it does include the directory in the search.
I.e i have a file called Badmovies\Killer klowns from outer space.avi so the search will be "Badmovies Killer klowns from outer space" which will of course return 0 results.

nielm
01-07-2005, 08:07 AM
there is a bit of a problem in the imported movies bit, as it is not always obvious what is the actual movie title...

DVDs show up with a filename of:
/path/to/dvd/VIDEO_TS
Mpgs/avis show up as:
/path/to/file/filename.ext

So in DVDs, the path is important, and in others, it is the filename... unless you do something like:
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 1.avi
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 2.avi
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 3.avi
(lame example, but you get the idea)

I guess I could do a quick hack by stripping off /VIDEO_TS and then everything before the last /

It used to work with the 'old' IMDB search which ignored words if it could not find a match to get partial matches..

nielm
01-07-2005, 10:35 AM
Uploaded new version the IMDB search again:

Jan 07 2004: updated IMDB search
-- include year/type in search results (java only update)
-- improved trimming of directories from imported video files (stv updated - requires re-importing the STV)

For those of you using Cayar's or MCEXCON's STVs, just download the zipfile, unpack it into your Sage directory, and restart Sage. You will not get the benefits of the updated search in the video library until your STV author performs the required update

vuego
01-07-2005, 05:21 PM
Cool it works great

Now I found only one minor bug. Do an exact search and end up at the movie screen w/out going thru the search results screen. Then back up using left arrow you'll come to the search results screen with one empty button. If you choose it there's an error.
However not a big problem :)

I have another idea for an extra feature. Wouldn't it be cool to have a button for adding an title or actor as a favorite in SageTV right from the title/actor details screen? :cool:
Is it possible?

jason531
01-21-2005, 01:36 PM
there is a bit of a problem in the imported movies bit, as it is not always obvious what is the actual movie title...

DVDs show up with a filename of:
/path/to/dvd/VIDEO_TS
Mpgs/avis show up as:
/path/to/file/filename.ext

So in DVDs, the path is important, and in others, it is the filename... unless you do something like:
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 1.avi
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 2.avi
/path/to/folder/Star Wars/Episode 3.avi
(lame example, but you get the idea)

I guess I could do a quick hack by stripping off /VIDEO_TS and then everything before the last /

It used to work with the 'old' IMDB search which ignored words if it could not find a match to get partial matches..

Hi Nielm,

Thank you very much for all of your hard work! I use your IMDB search with Cayars STV. Rather than trying to figure out the movie title from the path/filename, how difficult would it be to get the title from the info.my file (when available)?

Thanks again for all of your contributions to the Sage community.

Jason H

mostlyfodder
01-24-2005, 04:39 PM
just checking that my work gets used :)

by the way--- i'm still (happily) using the custom menu module .stv...

nielm
01-25-2005, 01:54 AM
I use your IMDB search with Cayars STV. Rather than trying to figure out the movie title from the path/filename, how difficult would it be to get the title from the info.my fileIt's possible -- but it would have to be done in Cayars' STV -- you may want to post in his thread...

jason531
01-25-2005, 07:39 AM
Thanks. I wasn't sure how whose code was doing the parsing. I'll post something to Cayars' thread.

sundansx
04-11-2005, 09:12 PM
Neilm,
I am using your Customized menus plugins with the MalDude2 STV on Sage 2.2.7. If I add a menu the references a internal menu, it successfully goes to the menu. If I press the left key to go up a menu, instead of going back to the custom menu that launched it, it instead goes to the internal parent menu. If I press the left key again, it goes to the custom parent menu.
An example from the home menu using my custom menu file:
Select MediaLibrary &DVD
->Arives at the Media Library screen (Custom menu)
Select Imported Video Files
->Arives at the VideoLibrary screen (internal menu)
Press Left
->Arrives at the Media Library & DVD screen (Internal menu)
Press Left
->Arrive at the Media Library screen (Custom)
Press Left
->Arrive back home

Any idea what could be causing this? Do you think it is the MalDude2 stv?

The same problem occurs when I use Maldude2 with your provided menu xml file. This is not something new, as it has been that way since I added your STV module last year. I did update everything to the newest (stvs/support files)
thanks.
-ck

RedCoat999
04-18-2005, 06:42 AM
Great work of course from Nielm. I have imported this into SageMC16x9. When using the search screen, the search for... text on the right is missing off the screen. Is this a result of too small resolution, or SageMC16x9 theme or something else?
Thanks

nielm
04-18-2005, 07:12 AM
Neilm,
I am using your Customized menus plugins with the MalDude2 STV on Sage 2.2.7. If I add a menu the references a internal menu, it successfully goes to the menu. If I press the left key to go up a menu, instead of going back to the custom menu that launched it, it instead goes to the internal parent menu. If I press the left key again, it goes to the custom parent menu. -ckThis is normal and a limitation of using importable STVs (IIRC Cayars STV had integrated the menu system and the left arrow did not have this problem)

nielm
04-20-2005, 06:13 AM
Apr 20 2005: updated IMDB search -- fix bug where when search returns a single result, going back from the result crashes the UI

Wheemer
04-20-2005, 10:07 AM
I'm using the dynamic menu import... Is it just me, or does everyones disk space indicator have font issues? I notice the "Video Disk SP..." being short, not resizing, and the actual spave free not being centered in the graphic. Other than that I love this thing...

hmca
06-20-2005, 11:02 AM
Is it possible with the Record Padding Module to have it not pad the start time if Sage is already awake and recording something? I set my padding at 2 minutes to come out of S3 and if I am recording from 9:00PM to 10:00PM it starts at 8:58 with the power up. This is what I want. However for the 10:00PM to 11:00PM it cuts off the first recording 2 minutes early and I get the 2 minutes in the next recording.
It would be nice to disable the padding when the machine is already recording and therefore dosn't need the 2 minute padding for power up.

Sweep
06-27-2005, 11:29 AM
There used to be a property "remove_padding_on_back_to_back_favorites", don't know if this still works (with Nielm's plugin).

nielm
06-27-2005, 12:48 PM
There used to be a property "remove_padding_on_back_to_back_favorites", don't know if this still works (with Nielm's plugin).It works for favorites, not for manual recordings.

nielm
06-27-2005, 12:51 PM
Is it possible with the Record Padding Module to have it not pad the start time if Sage is already awake and recording something? No, it's not possible -- the record padding import just does the same as the manual action of adding padding to a manual recording, the rest is all internal to Sage.

Theoretically you will get recording conflicts if you have 2 recordings with padding that overlap each other.

hmca
06-28-2005, 10:30 AM
No, I don't get a conflict, just the show ends 2 minutes early and I have to pick it up on the next hour if I am lucky enough to be recording back to back on the same channel.

nielm
06-28-2005, 12:00 PM
Recordings always finishes 2 mins early? Are you sure that the default *stop* padding is not set to 2mins earlier?

mkanet
10-17-2005, 04:07 PM
Is the latest dynamic menus compatible with sagetv 3.0.13?

mkanet
10-17-2005, 04:23 PM
Hmm... maybe I should have waited to get an answer back before installing dynamic menus on top of SageTV 3.0.13. When I tried to do that, it asked if it could write over newer files that already exist in the SageTV subdirectories.

Do I need to uninstall SageTV 3.0.13, erase everything in that directory, and wait for an updated version of Dynamic menus?

nielm
10-18-2005, 01:27 AM
I have not yet tested dynamic menus with v3.0.13... but they should work... The prompt is surprising, as the files have not changed for a long time... Maybe you backedup/restored the sageTV dir...

mayamaniac
10-18-2005, 02:50 AM
I can confirm that the Dynamic Menus Imports DOES work in 3.013. The only problem is the internal built-in menus have changed quite a lot, especially the SageTV Recording menu, which I find quite an improvement over the old one. So whenever nielm have time, maybe he can update the Dynamic Menu Imports to include all the new 3.013 internal menus.

However, the ComSkip .STVi does not work in 3.013 default STV. It works if you use it with Dynamic Menus Import, but not with the default 3.013 STV. I like the improved features in the new 3.013 STV, but really need comskip support for it. I've gotten used to comskip now and can't go back. :p

mkanet
10-18-2005, 10:02 AM
Mayamaniac, when you load dynamic menus, how do you access the new 3.0.13 internal menus (ie, Online Services)? Or do you lose these features? Should I just wait for an updated dynamic menus?

mayamaniac
10-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Mayamaniac, when you load dynamic menus, how do you access the new 3.0.13 internal menus (ie, Online Services)? Or do you lose these features? Should I just wait for an updated dynamic menus?
You lose them, nielm would have to update them I think.

Opus4
10-18-2005, 11:46 AM
how do you access the new 3.0.13 internal menus (ie, Online Services)? Or do you lose these features? Should I just wait for an updated dynamic menus?Since the dynamic menus are 'dynamic', you could edit/customize your menus to link to any of the new menus, including "Online Services Menu". Or, just link to "Weather" since that is really all that menu contains.

- Andy

mayamaniac
10-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Since the dynamic menus are 'dynamic', you could edit/customize your menus to link to any of the new menus, including "Online Services Menu". Or, just link to "Weather" since that is really all that menu contains.

- Andy
Unless its buried somewhere I cannot find, the new menus such as Online Services or Weather are not available in the Dynamic Menu options. Please do tell if you know where it is or how to import them.

Opus4
10-18-2005, 02:17 PM
BTW, mkanet, I just realized this is the thread for the v2 import versions... are you talking about using them or the newer v3 imports? There is a newer version of the dynamic menu import.

As for accessing the built-in Weather menu, it worked perfectly when I added a link to it from the Main Menu.

- Andy

mayamaniac
10-18-2005, 02:42 PM
As for accessing the built-in Weather menu, it worked perfectly when I added a link to it from the Main Menu.

- Andy
Andy, I'm not seeing it any where. How are you doing it? And not just the weather, but the new SageTV Recordings menu, the Media Center menu, etc..

nielm
10-18-2005, 02:57 PM
maymaniac/mkanet:
Options/edit/add/internal screen/"Weather"
Similar for other internal screens (such as Xtra: SageTV recordings by Malore)
Media center menu - is the old media library menu 'Library' with some names changed and things moved around a little.

mkanet
10-18-2005, 03:29 PM
I was originally trying to use the old version of dynamic menus. I have no problems with the latest version. I even added "Weather " to my main menu with no problems.

It was a nice surprise to see the Preview Window showing once again in all my menus. Prior to dyanamic menus, SageTV 3.0.13 took out the preview window in some of the menus (even when you select "Always" to show the preview window.

I'm very happy now that I have best of both worlds!

Opus4
10-18-2005, 03:43 PM
SageTV 3.0.13 took out the preview window in some of the menus (even when you select "Always" to show the preview window.BTW: the v3.0.13 STV didn't take any preview windows away; they have never been shown on the main menu style screens in the default STV. The "Always" setting simply means to show the video on menus where there is room for the preview window. (There is almost always room for the video to be the background...)

- Andy

mkanet
10-18-2005, 06:11 PM
Andy, which internal command will start the brand new Media File Browser?

Opus4
10-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Andy, which internal command will start the brand new Media File Browser?Nothing. That isn't a menu like the other screens; it is a pop-up dialog. Unless I am misunderstanding the dynaminc menu system, you can only link to menus. So, I think your best bet would be to link to the internal "Library" menu for access to it through the Media Center menu.

- Andy

mkanet
10-18-2005, 07:58 PM
Andy, I added the internal command called, "Library" to a menu. After doing so, I cannot access that item in the Menu I added it to. If I select that item, nothing happens.

The internal command, "Library" was the closest item I could find to "Library menu"

Nothing. That isn't a menu like the other screens; it is a pop-up dialog. Unless I am misunderstanding the dynaminc menu system, you can only link to menus. So, I think your best bet would be to link to the internal "Library" menu for access to it through the Media Center menu.

- Andy

mayamaniac
10-19-2005, 01:45 AM
Sorry for the confusion, I wasn't thinking straight. I forgot that I have to start with the new 3.013 STV, and re-import the dynamic menu into it. I was simply using the old custom STV, which was Dynamic Menu + Comskip + 3.07 STV, which of course didn't have the new Weather and other menus.

So I made a copy of the 3.013 STV, import the DynMenu, import new Comskip Playback import (thanks to malore) (http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?p=119293&postcount=59), added the Weather menu, and now everything is working the way it was, plus all the new bells and whistles of 3.013. Thanks for all the help to realize my stupidity.

:clap: :goodjob:

nielm
10-19-2005, 04:45 AM
mkanet... there is a property file setting to disable internal menus, (such as Library)... You need to set this property to false to be able to access Library/Media Center.

The disadvantage of this is that if there are any direct links from the dynamic menus to things like detailed setup, when you exit detailed setup, you will be returned to the internal setup menu instead of to the dynami main menu...

mkanet
10-19-2005, 09:58 AM
Nielm or Andy, can you please tell me which specific setting in the property file you are talking about (mentioned in below quote).

The weird thing is that I have seen the below described behavior (mentioned in below quote) when making a link to internal commands like malore's "Upcoming Movies" (I am returned to malore's custom menus and NOT the menu I was at before clicking on my custom link to "Upcoming Movies"). Yet, I still can't access the internal command called "Library".

Why do I have problems with both? From what you mentioned below, it looks like I would only have one problem.

I am confused now.

mkanet... there is a property file setting to disable internal menus, (such as Library)... You need to set this property to false to be able to access Library/Media Center.

The disadvantage of this is that if there are any direct links from the dynamic menus to things like detailed setup, when you exit detailed setup, you will be returned to the internal setup menu instead of to the dynami main menu...

nielm
10-19-2005, 12:02 PM
malores custom views menu is not (yet) bypassed by the property setting: nielm/disable_internal_submenu=true -- they will be in the to-be-released version (which may get better resolution on which menus to disable)