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oddjob 05-17-2007 01:24 PM

This thread appears to be dead.

I was just wondering if there is any news on the HD Extender?

dj7675 05-17-2007 03:40 PM

Been hoping for this product for about a year now. For me this will be the most important thing sage can offer next. The 6.x version of sage is very nice, but for those with HD you have to decide to use a pc (not for me) or play the files with an external player. I use the Roku Photobridge that plays the files perfectly, but really look forward to the sage ui on a similiar device. It would really be nice if someone from sage could chime in and give us some sort of news ....

Darin

dbfresh23 05-17-2007 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oddjob (Post 223403)
This thread appears to be dead.

I was just wondering if there is any news on the HD Extender?

Maybe people figured out that congratulating Sage for a product that doesn't exist yet was pretty pointless. When I can go to the online store and add one to my cart is when I'll congratulate them...

mikesm 05-18-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbfresh23 (Post 223424)
Maybe people figured out that congratulating Sage for a product that doesn't exist yet was pretty pointless. When I can go to the online store and add one to my cart is when I'll congratulate them...

Well, since I saw it face to face at CES and was impressed by it, I thought I would congratulate them on it. :-)

They still have about 45 days left to hit their original Q2 target, but this is a pretty bold product extension for them - Sage isn't a hardware company. So they will might be late on this.

If Apple wasn't being so lame about mac mini updates I probably would have gone that route a couple months ago.

Thanks,
mike

bialio 05-31-2007 10:43 AM

Any updates you care to toss our way official Sage TV types? The HD extender is very eagerly awaited by just about everyone!!!!

dotheDVDeed 06-01-2007 12:15 PM

Just 30 days to go! :clap:

:jump:

It's coming, .... er.. it is... isn't it?

Hello?

Anyone there? ....?

:nono:

mikesm 06-01-2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotheDVDeed (Post 225473)
Just 30 days to go! :clap:

:jump:

It's coming, .... er.. it is... isn't it?

Hello?

Anyone there? ....?

:nono:

They never gave a hard commitment that it was going to be here in Q2, just that it probably would be here then. I wouldn't count on it being here in 30 days - it's a very new type of product for them.

I do think it's odd that noone from Sage has commented on where they are in the development and production process though. I don't think this info would give their competitors a competitive advantage, but it would help those of is thinking about building a SFF client as an alternative.

Thanks,
mike

sainswor99 06-01-2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesm (Post 225476)
They never gave a hard commitment that it was going to be here in Q2, just that it probably would be here then. I wouldn't count on it being here in 30 days - it's a very new type of product for them.

I do think it's odd that noone from Sage has commented on where they are in the development and production process though. I don't think this info would give their competitors a competitive advantage, but it would help those of is thinking about building a SFF client as an alternative.

Thanks,
mike


Actually, as I reread this thread, the following quote is the only mention of a date anyone has:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcjenkins (Post 200067)
From what George said.. Q2

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While I trust bcjenkins, you gotta admit, that's a pretty light statement to get your hopes up for anything.

Stu

mikesm 06-01-2007 02:05 PM

They told me Q2 as well, and the employees were telling me about the testing of it they were doing at home.

However, this is a hardware platform for them. There could be any number of issues related to the supplier of the hardware that could affect availability, importing issues, or a whole host of other snafus. I don't think they have done a lot of work with Asian ODM's before.

Thanks,
Mike

flavius 06-01-2007 02:40 PM

I would expect at least another statement of some sorts at the end of the month.-

dotheDVDeed 06-01-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Narflex (Post 200228)
Glad to hear you all like the HD extender and the new media server. :) They'll be out sometime in Q2 of '07.

Most of your discussions are pretty accurate so far on it. You're all pretty good guessers.

And it does play HDD based DVDs since that was asked a few times. ;) And it can also do 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i output over component or DVI.
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sainswor99 06-01-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dotheDVDeed (Post 225511)
So I can't believe what the Chief Technology Officer and Founder says?

Didn't mean to say that; obviously I missed that post. I did look for other references to Q2, but the search engine thought the term "Q2" was too short. The point I was trying to make was that AFAIK, the only mention of a date was based on a conversation at a tradeshow; no one should be freaking out about a date in that context.

Obviously, Narflex's post changes that, and we should all become screaming rabid idiots when June 30 rolls around. :rolleyes:

MeInMaui 06-01-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sainswor99 (Post 225512)
...and we should all become screaming rabid idiots when June 30 rolls around. :rolleyes:

And this is different than usual, how? :D

mayamaniac 06-02-2007 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotheDVDeed (Post 225473)
Just 30 days to go! :clap:

:jump:

It's coming, .... er.. it is... isn't it?

Hello?

Anyone there? ....?

:nono:

You see people, this is why they don't announcement anything until they know the product is finalized and ready to ship. They shouldn't even mention a "Q2" time frame. Now if they don't have anything ready in 30 days, there will be an angry mob gathering, the pitch forks and torches kind. BURN THE SAGETV WITCH!!! :D

Lucas 06-02-2007 06:27 AM

I wouldn't mind waiting a couple of months more than expected if the end product ends up being better. The HD extender has to be able to do what the MVP does and more. The MVP took time to mature.

I think SageTV is weighing which is better, an "angry mob gathering" on 1st July or "outraged" users who bought the HD extender but thought that it wasn't what they expected...

GbrNole 06-02-2007 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 225561)
I wouldn't mind waiting a couple of months more than expected if the end product ends up being better. The HD extender has to be able to do what the MVP does and more. The MVP took time to mature.

I think SageTV is weighing which is better, an "angry mob gathering" on 1st July or "outraged" users who bought the HD extender but thought that it wasn't what they expected...

considering what the mvp is i don't see how the hd extender will be any different except more native audio/video standards supported?

Lucas 06-02-2007 03:22 PM

Yes. The HD extender is different hardware with more complex requirements for HD output.
My point is that MVP support took a long time to mature. From my point of view MVP support matured with release 6.0. Previous versions had lacking features.

It wouldn't make sense to release an HD extender with less functional features than the MVP and this take time....

valnar 06-02-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 225597)
My point is that MVP support took a long time to mature.

Not only that, but the hardware wasn't quite soup yet on the initial run from Hauppauge. I want a HD extender, but I won't be the first to buy one.

Anyone remember the problems with rev 1 of the PS2 and XBox?

Robert

heffe2001 06-08-2007 08:36 AM

Shoudn't be any harder to get video on the box than a MVP, it streams and decodes the streams just like a MVP (just knows more formats natively), so that part should be much the same as a MVP. Now transcoding unknown formats will be similar to the MVP as well (code it into something that the HD extender understands). The menus & such are where I'd say it'll be different...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 225597)
Yes. The HD extender is different hardware with more complex requirements for HD output.
My point is that MVP support took a long time to mature. From my point of view MVP support matured with release 6.0. Previous versions had lacking features.

It wouldn't make sense to release an HD extender with less functional features than the MVP and this take time....


Rob 06-08-2007 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayamaniac (Post 225557)
You see people, this is why they don't announcement anything until they know the product is finalized and ready to ship. They shouldn't even mention a "Q2" time frame. Now if they don't have anything ready in 30 days, there will be an angry mob gathering, the pitch forks and torches kind. BURN THE SAGETV WITCH!!! :D

and if they don't have it ready by end of Q2 and the angry mob gathers, it will simply add to their incentive to not give us dates or functionality plans in the future....

Had it not been for CES, we'd have never heard a Q2 date to begin with.

All that said, I sure hope its ready soon. :)

fyodor 06-08-2007 09:21 AM

They gave us an estimate for the same reason everyone else gives estimates: to get their consumers to hold off on buying into competing solutions. When its not ready, people will learn not to rely on these types of estimates and go buy an xbox360 or netgear EV8000 or instead wait and do nothing (as I have).

I hope that I'm wrong, but virtually everyone who has released these types of extenders has taken much longer than initially expected getting a model that works reliably out the door. Maybe I'm wrong about this, and we'll all be laughing about what an idiot I was, but I'm pretty confident that if we were going to see an extender in July that we should have heard something other by now than an informal announcement in December.

Rob 06-08-2007 09:39 AM

They gave an estimate only because the box had been seen at CES. You don't see alot of future plans and dates being given out by Sage becuase they made a decision back in the 1.4/2.0 days to quit giving estimates and plans. They use to give out this information all the time, but the "angry mob" gathered once to often and they shut up (and I really don't blame them).

Based on how they operate now, I expect to hear nothing from them until it is ready or until the Q2 date is missed. Just becaue they have not said anything recently does not indicate that the Q2 date is in jeopardy. The Q2 date may or may not be in jeopardy, we have no way of knowing. We can only speculate. However, if I were betting on it, I'd bet it gets missed (only because most software projects that span a 6 month or more effort are delivered late).

If the Q2 date is missed, I hope they give us an update, but I'm not really counting on it.

dotheDVDeed 06-08-2007 12:00 PM

Was it not operating at the CES? Sheesh some act like it was an empty box. All that I can see it needing would be tweaking to get a bit closer to the perfection that us torch carrying villagers demand. :)

TIM

bjkiller 07-01-2007 08:55 AM

today is 1-july.
Q3!

sleonard 07-01-2007 10:50 AM

I have a feeling that the HD extender will be released shortly after 6.2 for Windows gets released (it's in public beta now). One of the last features to be added to 6.2 will be support for the HD extender.

Just my guess,

Scott

oddjob 07-06-2007 08:47 AM

I know some day the extender will come out.

sainswor99 07-06-2007 11:39 AM

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I know some day the extender will come out.

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:D

oddjob 07-06-2007 11:50 AM

thats a good one!

I like that :)

tmiranda 07-06-2007 03:23 PM

I predicted today. Wrong again Batman :(

teknubic 07-06-2007 04:19 PM

http://members.cox.net/teknubic/hdstender.jpg

_matt_ 07-07-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by teknubic (Post 229760)

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO LOLCats can not invade the sage forums ... please no - I beg you.

gblinckmann 07-08-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleonard (Post 229090)
I have a feeling that the HD extender will be released shortly after 6.2 for Windows gets released (it's in public beta now). One of the last features to be added to 6.2 will be support for the HD extender.

Just my guess,

Scott

I'm with you on the guess. Considering the features that 6.2 has, that would also make sense to add HD Extender support into 6.2.

reggie14 07-08-2007 05:35 PM

Earlier in this thread some people speculated about what specific product the HD media extender will be. Does anyone know if that product it available? Is it available in the United States? I'm wondering this because I suspect the wait is more of a hardware issue than a software one.

teknubic 07-09-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _matt_ (Post 229921)
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO LOLCats can not invade the sage forums ... please no - I beg you.

Haha ... 5 capital 'no's and a beg. You must be serious... like serious cat is..




okay. i'll spare you. ;) :D

greggerm 07-09-2007 11:51 AM

http://www.pilotgerm.com/forumimages...at_and_boy.jpg

(Sorry, it had to be done)

teknubic 07-09-2007 08:18 PM

http://members.cox.net/teknubic/lolcat.jpg

Okay I'm done. :D

mikesm 07-09-2007 10:34 PM

Also, I'd love the Sage folks to give us an update on Sage system, a plug and play Sage installed on hardware that's been integrated and known to work well. I'd love to know what hardware they would select to get flawless HD playback.

Thanks,
mike

bcjenkins 07-10-2007 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesm (Post 230302)
Also, I'd love the Sage folks to give us an update on Sage system, a plug and play Sage installed on hardware that's been integrated and known to work well. I'd love to know what hardware they would select to get flawless HD playback.

Thanks,
mike

For flawless HD playback, why I am sure they would recommend the new HD Extender. Seen by outsiders at CES and commented on briefly in the public forums, the HD extender is by far the best way to watch HD. Plus it has a nice citrus scent.

dotheDVDeed 07-10-2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bcjenkins (Post 230316)
Plus it has a nice citrus scent.

Good, cause it's getting smelly with all these cats in here! :D

TIM

fyodor 07-10-2007 11:03 AM

To be fair, it should probably deliver flawless HD playback when it is finally made available in tandem with Barack Obama's presidential re-election campaign. From what we've seen it's going to run on sigma designs hardware. I was able to get reliably smooth mpeg2 playback with an AVLP2. The problem is that the interface sucks.


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