SageTV V4.1.5 Beta Is Available

[henk99]

Hi all,

I don't see it in the list of changes, so does that mean the green screen issue some have been experiencing is not fixed?

I would like to know, before i start the update testing if it is fixed.

Henk99

[marneb17]

Originally Posted by henk99

Hi all,

I don't see it in the list of changes, so does that mean the green screen issue some have been experiencing is not fixed?

I would like to know, before i start the update testing if it is fixed.

Henk99

Well i have a pal MVP, and I didn't have a green screen with power down, but the mvp seemed to crash. Because when I tried to power it on again with the remote, it booted up. Not the "sagetv is booting media center" screen but the real hard reboot screen.
Also the properties file wouldn't stick. It always reverted back to the default settings. The properties file was written correct. But after rebooting the mvp, it just had the default settings again. This most likely has to do with the mvp not shuting down correctly.
Oh well, I have reverted back to the 4.1.4 mvp.bin and that is working quite well.
Keep up the good development.

Marneb

[DIBU]

Originally Posted by marneb17

Well i have a pal MVP, and I didn't have a green screen with power down, but the mvp seemed to crash. Because when I tried to power it on again with the remote, it booted up. Not the "sagetv is booting media center" screen but the real hard reboot screen.
Also the properties file wouldn't stick. It always reverted back to the default settings. The properties file was written correct. But after rebooting the mvp, it just had the default settings again. This most likely has to do with the mvp not shuting down correctly.
Oh well, I have reverted back to the 4.1.4 mvp.bin and that is working quite well.
Keep up the good development.

Marneb

same on my mvp's

[nigfink]

It seems like this fixes the network issues with the tx/rx offloading on network cards. Mine seems fine, how about everybody elses? I can not beleive how much faster the UI is on the MVP, it is really much more usable now. Good work!

[MrApollinax]

As I said in my post on the mvp.bin beta thread this release fixes all my MVP playback issues. Great job guys!

[Alfiegerner]

Have any of you pal users succesfully used the server -> mvp transcoding feature? I'm wondering if you get the large black bar at the bottom of the screen or any other problems.

[paulbeers]

Dangit!!!! I didn't check the Sage Forum's last night (I was lazy and watching movies I had recorded on Sage over the last couple of days!) and now I see that we had a 4.1.5 release!! GRRR!!!!! and now I am going on vacation starting Thursday afternoon. Good thing I have tonight and during the day tomorrow to play. I am assuming the avermedia card they mentioned is not the Avermedia 1500MCE (since they have supported that card forever) but rater the Avermedia M113 (Avermedia PVR 150 Plus) and if this is the case THANK YOU!!!! You guys rock!!! I have 3 of them and have been waiting for support for this card for about a month! I was actually considering moving to Beyond TV since it supported it but their great customer support people kept telling me to be patient and I am assuming my patience has paid off! Maybe I am getting a head of myself but if this is true, then Sage is great and I will never recommend any other pvr software to anyone else!

[Narflex]

Originally Posted by Alfiegerner

Have any of you pal users succesfully used the server -> mvp transcoding feature? I'm wondering if you get the large black bar at the bottom of the screen or any other problems.

Try changing this property:
media_server/transcode_quality/DVD=-f dvd -b 4000 -s 720\:480

to be

media_server/transcode_quality/DVD=-f dvd -b 4000 -s 720\:576

and then it should do it at PAL resolution.

[Narflex]

Originally Posted by marneb17

Well i have a pal MVP, and I didn't have a green screen with power down, but the mvp seemed to crash. Because when I tried to power it on again with the remote, it booted up. Not the "sagetv is booting media center" screen but the real hard reboot screen.
Also the properties file wouldn't stick. It always reverted back to the default settings. The properties file was written correct. But after rebooting the mvp, it just had the default settings again. This most likely has to do with the mvp not shuting down correctly.
Oh well, I have reverted back to the 4.1.4 mvp.bin and that is working quite well.
Keep up the good development.

Marneb

The MVP will do a full reboot when you use the power button now. That way you never need to unplug/replug it when you upgrade the server; you'll just need to power it on and off.

The properties should stick OK; can you give me the example of what properties specifically are not sticking?

[Stuntman]

Originally Posted by MrApollinax

As I said in my post on the mvp.bin beta thread this release fixes all my MVP playback issues. Great job guys!

Seems to have fixed mine too.. but I only tested sparingly last night.. I need a solid weekend to be certain! But at this point, any improvement is a welcomed improvement!

[marneb17]

Originally Posted by Narflex

The MVP will do a full reboot when you use the power button now. That way you never need to unplug/replug it when you upgrade the server; you'll just need to power it on and off.

The properties should stick OK; can you give me the example of what properties specifically are not sticking?

Well the stv isn't sticking. I use the dynamic menu import. I imported it into this releases stv's .xml file. It will work as long as the mvp stays up. Even the .properties of that mvp client is written to the harddrive on the server. But as soon as I reboot the mvp it, it reverts to default stv again.

The only problem with the hard boot is, that it takes quite a bit longer than the soft-off. But that would be OK for me. Does the power-consumption go down, as well?

Marne

[MrD]

Whoah Nelly!

I just updated to the 4.1.5 beta from the 4.1.3 production release.

I saw a green video screen after initial playback, but rebooted again and I have not seen it since.

However, the much larger issue: The MVP UI / remote response is INCREDIBLY / UNBELIEVEBLY slow!!!!!!! What happened? When I navigate through the menus the screen feedback is delayed 4-5 seconds. Once I get to the video playback screen the playback is ok, but remote response is still horrible.

Remote batteries are fresh.

Network is wired 1Gb, everything was cool with 4.1.3 (although remote was a little slow, but managable)

Thoughts?

-MrD

[MrApollinax]

I'm seeing the exact opposite of what you are seeing. MVP UI is much more responsive than it was with the "alpha/beta" mvp.bin files that were released to address different issues. I only use the Hauppauge remote to control the MVP right now but I'll try to program my Harmony remote to emulate the haupppauge remote and see if there is any difference.

[MrD]

fyi, I am using the Hauppauge remote, and perhaps it is not the UI rendering, but it definitely does not respond to input controls.

One other thing. The reboot of the MVP takes a good 2-3 minutes now too.

I am using the SageTV service (i.e. windows service) and I did drop it before the upgrade and restart after the upgrade was finished.

[Narflex]

MrD, are you using an IR blaster? I just found a bug in SageTV this morning on my own system at home when I upgraded it which is just like you describe. There was a race condition with the UI and the recording system where they'd both try to load the IR tuning plugin (which would really screw things up) and cause it go into an infinite loop trying to tune it. This wouldn't happen if the recording engine by itself loaded the plugin first (i.e. it will only happen if you select something to watch which would need the IR tuner plugin and the plugin had not been initialized yet)

This is fixed for the next build. This bug has been around for a long time (based on where it is in the code) so I'm curious if this corresponds to any other issues people may have been having where Sage would hog the CPU.

[Alfiegerner]

Originally Posted by Narflex

Try changing this property:
media_server/transcode_quality/DVD=-f dvd -b 4000 -s 720\:480

to be

media_server/transcode_quality/DVD=-f dvd -b 4000 -s 720\:576

and then it should do it at PAL resolution.

Thanks Narflex, that did the trick

Could anyone give me some idea of the minimum specs my machine would need to be to transcode properly?

My sage server is not quite powerful enough to transcode the stream at the moment. It has an 2200+ processor with 512 ram. I'm currently thinking of an upgrade to a 2800+ (maybe a sempron?) and 1 G ram but am not sure if this would give me enough juice.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by Narflex

MrD, are you using an IR blaster? I just found a bug in SageTV this morning on my own system at home when I upgraded it which is just like you describe. There was a race condition with the UI and the recording system where they'd both try to load the IR tuning plugin (which would really screw things up) and cause it go into an infinite loop trying to tune it. This wouldn't happen if the recording engine by itself loaded the plugin first (i.e. it will only happen if you select something to watch which would need the IR tuner plugin and the plugin had not been initialized yet)

This is fixed for the next build. This bug has been around for a long time (based on where it is in the code) so I'm curious if this corresponds to any other issues people may have been having where Sage would hog the CPU.

This might explain my situation where if I ran the Service and client on the box at the same time I would hit 100% CPU. What I finally tracked it down to was that up to this point I had not used blasting with the USB-UIRT, only receiving. This time I had setup a tuner for the cablebox and had setup the USB-UIRT for blasting. Every time I would run the Service and the client on the server it would go to 100%, especially once I entered the Program Guide. So for awhile I was just running the UI. Then I reconfigured the tuner for straight cable and no blasting. All 100% CPU issues went away. I run both the Service and the client with no issues. Sounds like this might help my situation.

Gerry

[evilpenguin]

What's fast file switching?

[Narflex]

It's when the media player switches from one file to another without reloading itself.

[marneb17]

Originally Posted by marneb17

Well the stv isn't sticking. I use the dynamic menu import. I imported it into this releases stv's .xml file. It will work as long as the mvp stays up. Even the .properties of that mvp client is written to the harddrive on the server. But as soon as I reboot the mvp it, it reverts to default stv again.

I uninstalled it and did a reinstall and now it sticks.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I have two mvps.
Oh well, now it is working.
But I have seen something else. After some reboots the video stops every 1-2 second for maybe half a second and then continues.
But this only happens after some boots, but on every video that I play. After a reboot of the mvp it is OK again.

Marneb