R5000-HD capture via USB2 & SageTV - Page 3

Kirby · #41 03-27-2006, 10:00 PM

Yeah, any of you that want a D* mpeg4 box modded will have to take that up with them directly. I cant say whether they will do it or not. Not sure if there is a legal issue with modding those, or a demand issue. I cant think of any other reason though, since the H20 runs the same mpeg4 chip as the Dishnetwork MPEG4 receivers (211, 411, 622 all have the same chip).

Kimper · #42 03-27-2006, 10:22 PM

Hmm, I am a Time Warner Cable guy atm, and will gladly switch over to Satellite to get HDTV recording in Sage. I couldn't help but notice these references...

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modded DTV mpeg4 box

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D* mpeg4 box

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the H20

Are these modded Directv receivers that descramble all channels?

This probably can't be discussed in detail here, but just wondering if they exist and work well? Just a yes or no answer shouldn't violate any forum rules...

Kirby · #43 03-27-2006, 10:38 PM

The R5000 mod is not illegal. Its not a method of bypassing having to pay for programming. I suggest you go read about it. Nextcom wireless wont deal with you if your HD box is not subscribed to programming, and their mod in no way makes a subscription not required. Hope I am clear on that.

Kimper · #44 03-27-2006, 10:45 PM

Yep, my bad, did a bit more reading.. think the prior poster was refering to legalities of Nextcom modding his current MPEG 4 compliant receiver.

Regardless, sorry to sidetrack, I am very excited to see the R5000 integrated with Sage. I hope we see something soon!

Jesse · #45 03-28-2006, 04:51 PM

Hi,

Good news and bad news. Here is the response to the email I sent to nextcom:

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Jesse,
We don't expect to have a solution for the H20 box anytime soon. Also at
this point it is up in the air as to whether or not it is realizable.
Having spoke to numerous people at DirecTV they all seem to indicate
that there are no plans to discontinue the existing MPEG-2 services. The
new receivers are only required for new HD offerings, like the locals.

We will be making an announcement regarding SageTV, most likely later
this week. thanks,
David

Good news re. sage, but a bummer about the D* mpeg4 box. There are only 13 channels (TNT, Espn, Espn2, Universal, Discovery, HDNET, HDNETMovies, 2 HBO's, 2 Showtimes, 1 PPView, and 1 Adult) offered in mpeg2 HD by D* right now. Even if they continue to broadcast these in mpeg2 it is my understanding that all the new stuff will be mpeg4 only. WAF will fall to zero when a new HD channel comes on line and I have to tell her that we cant get it. I dont mind spending the money on an R5000HD moded box, but it will be tough to swallow if I cannot receive any of the forthcoming HD channels.

I think I may just wait this one out and see if nextcom eventually offers a D* mpeg4 solution.

Jesse

dbfresh23 · #46 04-01-2006, 01:46 AM

Even if there are only 13 HD channels right now this would still be worth it IMO. Lets not forget that the R5000 can also send the SD channels over USB - thus eliminating the need for an analog tuner and the need to convert DirecTV's nice digital signal to analog to capture it! The one sucky thing about it is that I downloaded the sample SD file from their website and my MVP chokes on it. I'm pretty sure it's because acording to VideoReDo the video stream bit rate is 15MBPS and I don't think the MVP is capable of that. It played, it was just really choppy.

Kirby · #47 04-01-2006, 08:24 AM

The samples you downloaded had null packets in them most likely. D* SD streams are usually well under 3mbps. If you guys want, I can make available some short SD captures from either cable or Dishnetwork, that are stripped of null packets, and you can test with those. The R5000 software allows you to either record at a 19mbps bitrate, or compressed (which will obviously result in a variable bitrate).

No further update on the software on my end (in case anyone was wondering).

stanger89 · #48 04-01-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dbfresh23

Even if there are only 13 HD channels right now this would still be worth it IMO. Lets not forget that the R5000 can also send the SD channels over USB

I thought SD wasn't supported on DirecTV due to the weird encoding they use.

Kirby · #49 04-01-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stanger89

I thought SD wasn't supported on DirecTV due to the weird encoding they use.

Thats a 169time.com limitation. R5000HD doesnt have that problem and does SD perfectly. 169time on the other hand, does not handle streams correctly, nor does it output a true mpeg-2 compliant TS file.

The only thing that a R5000 wont capture (to my knowledge) on any system is the analog cable channels on Motorola cable box mods.

dj7675 · #50 04-04-2006, 09:49 AM

Any more updates on sage for r5000? Very interested in how this is progressing.

Darin

Kirby · #51 04-04-2006, 09:55 AM

Being tested...

dj7675 · #52 04-04-2006, 10:16 AM

Great. Let us know how it goes as soon as you can. I have used sage before for SD, but never HD. How does playback work for HD thorugh sage? I have a MyHD 120 card, can that be used for playback within sage? Or do you just use a pc graphics card?

Thanks

Darin

dbfresh23 · #53 04-04-2006, 10:42 AM

I don't think the MyHD cards can work as decoders in SageTV so it would have to be through a video card.

Kirby · #54 04-04-2006, 10:59 AM

Right, MyHD cards are not supported. Someone on here is working (hopefully) on a network encoder for it, but there is no real way to output a whole UI through the MyHD cards, except in pass thru mode, and at that point, its your video card doing everything.

dj7675 · #55 04-04-2006, 11:14 AM

Thanks for the information. What sort of video card would be needed for HD playback? Also, any other software or special setup for playback through sage? Or will it just work with the proper video card? The video card in the pc I have is just the on board graphics (82865G) card in a dell pc . I am assuming that may not be adequate for HD playback.... I appreciate all of the replies.

Darin

mikejaner · #56 04-04-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dj7675

Thanks for the information. What sort of video card would be needed for HD playback? Also, any other software or special setup for playback through sage? Or will it just work with the proper video card? The video card in the pc I have is just the on board graphics (82865G) card in a dell pc . I am assuming that may not be adequate for HD playback.... I appreciate all of the replies.

Darin

With Overlay and Nvidia Codecs you dont need a very powerful video card at all. With VMR9 and 3D accelleration, you are looking at the Radeon 9800, or Nvidia 6600 flavors and up.
Mike

dbfresh23 · #57 04-09-2006, 10:11 AM

Any updates yet Kirby?

Kirby · #58 04-09-2006, 10:55 AM

I'm testing it, but its been slow going the past few days (been swamped with other things). Plus was fighting a java issue for the better part of a few days which is finally resolved. So far I've successfully recorded from my cable box mod and my dish 411 at separate times, later today I am going to be trying both simulatenously and hopefully stress testing it some more. Seems like some rapid channel changes still cause problems, but that maybe have been caused by something else.

dbfresh23 · #59 04-09-2006, 10:59 AM

This could be a silly question, what kind of files is it creating? TS or MPEG? For both SD and HD?

Kirby · #60 04-09-2006, 11:01 AM

all files from a r5000 are transport streams. even SD. but the nice thing is the r5000 app allows you to strip out null packets, so you can always get the smallest possible file size without any extra processing (no need for external null packet removal).

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