GeForce 6150 issues

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by kricker

I haven't had a chance to try HD yet, only SD. Gimme an hour or so and I'll see what happens. I also want to see if I can run the latest PureVideo with these older drivers, I rolled it back to 1.02-185. Can you point me to any online content that I can test with?

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tshowcase.aspx

[IncredibleHat]

Originally Posted by kricker

Which VMR9 are you using in Zoomplayer?

I use Renderless (experimental), and I also use Windowed. Windowless for DVDs make me lose DVD Menu navigation ability, however Windowless set for standard media works fine.

Originally Posted by kricker

This happens for me if I go to windowed mode and then try to return to fullscreen mode. It crashes everytime. Then after restarting Sage and trying to go fullscreen it still crashes. I have to turn off FSE to get back into fullscreen mode. For me this does not happen when I minimize to the tray. I can minimize and restore all day long without problems.

Interesting. I don't think I ever got SageTV to directly minimize to tray icon... maybe it wasn't something I could do with HIP and my remote, so I never tried. I was only able to first go to windowed, then minimize, but that was only minimized to taskbar, and not to tray. Whats the command to make sage minimize directly into tray? I would like to try that out... better than quitting each time I want to watch a DVD in ZP

Originally Posted by kricker

Strange to try to make problems happen eh? Try the Zoomplayer 5 beta 7. Install it, then change to VMR9 renderless and check that one option I listed above. Of course you then have to stop playback and re-open the file for the settings to take effect.

Right, I'm using Pro 4.51. VMR9 Renderless set in the Filter Options right? Not the DVD Settings area... those are two different areas I believe, relating to "DVDs" and "everything else".

Originally Posted by blade

I don't think you need purevideo to get the acceleration. I think the only way to tell is to check your cpu usage.

Hmm, really? My CPU used to hang around 60% before I installed Purevideo and use the "NVIDIA Video" for my Video Decoder in sagetv. Using purevideo it sits around 5%. And without purevideo installed, I cannot select ANYTHING regarding nvidia in sage and have it work. Hmm.

I agree with the 'on the edge of serious pissed offness' ... I'm getting there... however I believe in nvidia, been a long time supporter, and believe they will get a handle on all the issues. I'm hopeful... lol

[kricker]

Originally Posted by blade

I don't think you need purevideo to get the acceleration. I think the only way to tell is to check your cpu usage. Here is a pretty good thread full of good info and pissed off folks who want their acceleration. Right now I don't really care about h264 acceleration, but when it's possible in Sage I'll be wanting my card to do what it was supposed to when I purchased it. I hope Nvidia gets their act together before I join the ranks of the unhappy customers.

Crap another 24 pages of stuff to wade thru just to see if nVidias drivers are working properly......I'll just dl some test clips from the windows media site and the sample clips from Nero's site and see what happens.

[kricker]

Ok here are some numbers on some test I ran. Maybe these will mean something to somebody. Is it using the GPU? Heck if I know. At least everything played smooth.

system specs:
AMD X2 3800+ (dual core)
1GB RAM (667 dual channel)

1st is the range I saw the CPU go between, from the lowest to the highest. Then the average is the number I saw the most.

Zoom Player VMR9 Renderless
Discoverers_720.wmv ~ 22-35 average 27 (used WMVideo Decoder DMO)
Discoverers_1080.wmv ~ 45-54 average 47 (used WMVideo Decoder DMO)
Dust_to_Glory_720.wmv ~ 21-49 average 35 (used WMVideo Decoder DMO)
TheGreatestGame_HD_ASP.mp4 (1920x1088) ~ 25-40 average 30 (used ffdshow Aug 3 2006 21:12:43)
TheGreatestGame_HD_AVC.mp4 (1920x1080) ~ 36-62 average 50 (used CoreAVC 1.1.0.5)

Windows Media Player (HD WMV patch applied)
Discoverers_720.wmv ~ 19-29 average 25
Discoverers_1080.wmv ~ 29-40 average 33
Dust_to_Glory_720.wmv ~ 21-43 average 35
TheGreatestGame_HD_ASP.mp4 (1920x1088) ~ didn't play properly (it tried to use ffdshow but looked messed up)
TheGreatestGame_HD_AVC.mp4 (1920x1080) ~ 33-59 average 45

[blade]

Originally Posted by IncredibleHat

Hmm, really? My CPU used to hang around 60% before I installed Purevideo and use the "NVIDIA Video" for my Video Decoder in sagetv. Using purevideo it sits around 5%. And without purevideo installed, I cannot select ANYTHING regarding nvidia in sage and have it work. Hmm.

I agree with the 'on the edge of serious pissed offness' ... I'm getting there... however I believe in nvidia, been a long time supporter, and believe they will get a handle on all the issues. I'm hopeful... lol

I was talking about for WMV9 and h264 acceleration.

I've been pretty happy with Nvidia and am usually very patient because I understand it can be complicated to get things working for everyone. What drives me nuts about Nvidia is something will be working and they'll break it. Then they blame everyone else or simply remove the feature and pretend it never existed.

Not to mention I sent a support request to Nvidia in the past and never got any reply. Not even an automated one.

[kricker]

Originally Posted by IncredibleHat

I use Renderless (experimental), and I also use Windowed. Windowless for DVDs make me lose DVD Menu navigation ability, however Windowless set for standard media works fine.

Interesting. I didn't think 4.51 had renderless in it. For me all the other VMR choices result in a black window with audio (with the 91.47 drivers).

Originally Posted by IncredibleHat

Interesting. I don't think I ever got SageTV to directly minimize to tray icon... maybe it wasn't something I could do with HIP and my remote, so I never tried. I was only able to first go to windowed, then minimize, but that was only minimized to taskbar, and not to tray. Whats the command to make sage minimize directly into tray? I would like to try that out... better than quitting each time I want to watch a DVD in ZP

I use the command for POWER (which for me is ctrl+z). Then set Detailed setup/Customize/Action to take when the SageTV windows is closed/Sleep SageTV.

Originally Posted by IncredibleHat

Right, I'm using Pro 4.51. VMR9 Renderless set in the Filter Options right? Not the DVD Settings area... those are two different areas I believe, relating to "DVDs" and "everything else".

right, then the tab next to that is where the YUV mixing option is. Here are my settings for Zoom Player. You might want to export your settings before you merge these settings in.

[PGPfan]

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to thank IncredibleHat for his work trying to find a solution to this with Sage. However, IncredibleHat this problem WILL occur with TheaterTek as well. (see this post at TheaterTek forums HERE) FWIW, I disagree ENTIRELY about TT being a "junky" program. If you've tried it and had poor success with it, that's YOU. Most users absolutely LOVE it.

Anyhow, I just wanted to point out that it seems that this does in fact occur in both Zoomplayer and TheaterTek with certain conditions met. I had this problem with TheaterTek when I first installed my 6150 based board, so it's nothing new. I don't (currently) use Sage for playback, so I've never experienced it here - but I will do some testing and see what I can turn up. I will be glad when I get to try Sage 5.1 and see how that behaves, however.

-PGPfan

[IncredibleHat]

To each their own! No disrespect or anything.

It certainly is looking to be a solid 6150 + 9x.xx issue, doesn't it? Its something were there is some specific action being used in the drivers on these GPUs that are causing it to FREAKOUT! ... I wish I knew what... and I wish nvidia would get their bug reporting website fixed so I could report the problem. I have found no emails that get to any living person there... grr.

[PGPfan]

If I remember right, magazines like Maximum PC have those 'consumer advocate' columns where people write about problems they have that they can't seem to resolve and the editor/watchdog tries to hunt down the culprit and find a fix.

I wonder if several of us were to write such a magazine with this complaint, if that would get anywhere?

-PGPfan

[emok]

I haven't tried them yet, and the release notes don't hint at any problems or solutions to the 6150 problem (except under the 64-bit windows section).

I'll probably try them tonight if I get a chance.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71.html

[kricker]

Originally Posted by emok

I haven't tried them yet, and the release notes don't hint at any problems or solutions to the 6150 problem (except under the 64-bit windows section).

I'll probably try them tonight if I get a chance.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71.html

Let us know how they work if you do. There looks to be way to many issues with HDTVs for me to try them.

[IncredibleHat]

I may try them this weekend... surely they are no worse than the 92.91 beta drivers, right ? LOL ... *cough* ...

I reported the 6150 boxies bug to them. They said on Oct25: "Thank you for updating the report. Well we definitly work on this bugs and will make sure that they are not reproduced in the future forceware release."

:roll:

[kricker]

Originally Posted by IncredibleHat

I may try them this weekend... surely they are no worse than the 92.91 beta drivers, right ? LOL ... *cough* ...

I reported the 6150 boxies bug to them. They said on Oct25: "Thank you for updating the report. Well we definitly work on this bugs and will make sure that they are not reproduced in the future forceware release."

:roll:

......and a flock of pigs fly by.........

[emok]

Originally Posted by emok

I haven't tried them yet, and the release notes don't hint at any problems or solutions to the 6150 problem (except under the 64-bit windows section).

I'll probably try them tonight if I get a chance.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71.html

Installed them this morning and after extremely limited testing (about 10 minutes of trying to reproduce the grid problem), I have NOT seen the grids. I'll cross my fingers and test more tonight. So far, the drivers seem better.

I'm running Sage 5.0.4.92 and JRE 1.6.0-rc.

I just installed the drivers over my 82.05 drivers.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by emok

Installed them this morning and after extremely limited testing (about 10 minutes of trying to reproduce the grid problem), I have NOT seen the grids. I'll cross my fingers and test more tonight. So far, the drivers seem better.

I'm running Sage 5.0.4.92 and JRE 1.6.0-rc.

I just installed the drivers over my 82.05 drivers.

You should always uninstall the nVidia drivers and reboot the PC so that you load up the standard VGA drivers. Then go ahead and install the new version of drivers. Not uninstalling will sometimes result in the new files not being installed and issues that other users don't have. And just because you don't have issues doesn't mean you're not running some older versions of files.

Gerry

[emok]

Originally Posted by gplasky

You should always uninstall the nVidia drivers and reboot the PC so that you load up the standard VGA drivers. Then go ahead and install the new version of drivers. Not uninstalling will sometimes result in the new files not being installed and issues that other users don't have. And just because you don't have issues doesn't mean you're not running some older versions of files.

Gerry

Hmm. Guess I'll try again tonight. Any other takers so far?

[BruenerXII]

Just checked the Release Notes (v93.71) and...

Issues Resolved in Version 93.71:

• GeForce 7600 GS, GeForce 6150/6100: During video playback in VMR
mode, video is corrupt and shaky when noise reduction is enabled.


So this very well could be the fix we are all looking for.
Saaaaweeeeeeet finally we can take advantage of some new driver advancements!

[IncredibleHat]

"video is corrupt and shaky when noise reduction is enabled" ...

??? Thats not the bug I've been experiencing And I don't even use noise reduction hehe.

I am going to try them tomorrow... I have some things planned to use the machine tonight, and don't want to risk hosing it all up before tonight where I cant get it reverted in time

[emok]

Originally Posted by BruenerXII

Just checked the Release Notes (v93.71) and...

Issues Resolved in Version 93.71:

• GeForce 7600 GS, GeForce 6150/6100: During video playback in VMR
mode, video is corrupt and shaky when noise reduction is enabled.


So this very well could be the fix we are all looking for.
Saaaaweeeeeeet finally we can take advantage of some new driver advancements!

Issues Resolved in Version 93.71:

• GeForce 6150/6100: Video gets corrupted if attempted to be played using any media player and any driver past 82.05. Problem not present when user does not try to play videos. =)

[IncredibleHat]

Now you people are making stuff up. I couldn't find anything of that sort in the release notes :P