SETUP WinTV HVR-1600 with QAM

[morfinx]

Originally Posted by SprDtyF350

I have the same problem here in the Washington DC area. I can get ABC, NBC, CBS, and some others but cannot get FOX.

Weird...

Yeah very strange. I'm in the Boston area.

[BtotheD]

I read the first post to this thread and searched a bit, but couldn't find anything....

I'm running an Aver 780 that's supposed to do QAM, the basic analog Comcast cable package and the latest version of Sage (6.2.10). When I use AVer's software, it find 53 stations without much work (scanning takes 15min) and they look HD good, so I'm definitely getting the digital QAM through the card. When I try the technique described in the first post, Sage finds nothing. I think Comcast has the digital QAM stations set at like channel 231-240ish, and Sage seems to stop at 200

In summary: AVer 780 getting QAM signal, but Sage cannot find the stations.

Anyone have any ideas???

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by BtotheD

I read the first post to this thread and searched a bit, but couldn't find anything....

I'm running an Aver 780 that's supposed to do QAM, the basic analog Comcast cable package and the latest version of Sage (6.2.10). When I use AVer's software, it find 53 stations without much work (scanning takes 15min) and they look HD good, so I'm definitely getting the digital QAM through the card. When I try the technique described in the first post, Sage finds nothing. I think Comcast has the digital QAM stations set at like channel 231-240ish, and Sage seems to stop at 200

In summary: AVer 780 getting QAM signal, but Sage cannot find the stations.

Anyone have any ideas???

Are you running Vista? The Sage page that shows that card as supported says only with Vista. Just a thought..

[BtotheD]

Nope, XP pro. not MCE.

[BtotheD]

Oops...misread that.... yeah, I'm not running vista ... I'll look into that. Everything else works fine ... SD, analog .... and has for quite some time.

[morfinx]

Originally Posted by SprDtyF350

I have the same problem here in the Washington DC area. I can get ABC, NBC, CBS, and some others but cannot get FOX.

Weird...

After talking with some folks on AVS Forum who are in the same area as me, I manually entered a channel for FOX HD and it worked. I don't know why the channel scan didn't pick it up though

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by morfinx

After talking with some folks on AVS Forum who are in the same area as me, I manually entered a channel for FOX HD and it worked. I don't know why the channel scan didn't pick it up though

Yep, I have tried that.. My FOX channel comes in at 132-3 on my TV's QAM tuner. I can't get the HVR-1600 to tune to that with any program I have tried. Would be nice though...

[Stuntman]

Originally Posted by Stuntman

I recently acquired a HVR-1600, but found that it was the 'Non-QAM' model 74551.. not giving up, I wrote Hauppauge to ask about it and to ask whether or not it would EVER support QAM.. here is what I got as a reply.. can anybody confirm or deny their reply????


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From: Hauppauge Support


The 74551 is the MCE version of the 1600. Because Microsoft does not
currently support QAM in Media Center we do not list the MCE version of the
1600 supporting QAM to avoid confusion on the part of the customer but it
should do clear QAM if you are using the WinTV application.

As a follow up.. the 74551 DOES work with QAM, even though it isn't marketed to do so..

[FMAX]

Originally Posted by SprDtyF350

Yep, I have tried that.. My FOX channel comes in at 132-3 on my TV's QAM tuner. I can't get the HVR-1600 to tune to that with any program I have tried. Would be nice though...

SprDty:
try 132-0-1,132-02, or 132-0-3
in my earlier posts the physical numbers on 1600, don't match other Qam devices.
132-3 on my Samsung & HDHR, would depend on how many subchannels are on channel 132.
on your TV if you have 132-1, 132-2, 132-3,
then 132-3 would translate to 1600 as 132(Channel)-0-3(3rd sub channel)

re-check my 2nd post on 1st page.
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...48&postcount=2

[HTPCBoy]

My house is such that I can't receive OTA very well, so I have downloaded Sage Trial to see if I can get QAM to work. I have Time Warner (digital, still with HDTV option until I can confirm this works).

I have dual Hauppauge 1600 combo tuners and they have the option for Clear QAM in the WinTV software, but I can't seem to get any of the channels in Wintv or Sage to show up. Has anyone else had this problem. Could Austin simply not be broadcasting clear QAM? If that is so, why would it find channels and say they have signal strength?

Very confused ... any help would be much appreciated. I'm thinking about booting HTPC for set top box until it gets easier (wahhh!)

[morfinx]

Originally Posted by HTPCBoy

My house is such that I can't receive OTA very well, so I have downloaded Sage Trial to see if I can get QAM to work. I have Time Warner (digital, still with HDTV option until I can confirm this works).

I have dual Hauppauge 1600 combo tuners and they have the option for Clear QAM in the WinTV software, but I can't seem to get any of the channels in Wintv or Sage to show up. Has anyone else had this problem. Could Austin simply not be broadcasting clear QAM? If that is so, why would it find channels and say they have signal strength?

Very confused ... any help would be much appreciated. I'm thinking about booting HTPC for set top box until it gets easier (wahhh!)

Have you tried all of the suggestions in this thread already?

You may also want to checkout this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=336964

[srothwell]

So i picked up two 1600's today from Circuit City.

I'm a little scared to open them. It says 74021 LF on the picture of the card. No where on the card does it say QAM. In fact, it specifically says "Analog Cable".

What's up? I thought the 74021 did QAM. Is the "LF" something to worry about?

[kevine]

Originally Posted by srothwell

So i picked up two 1600's today from Circuit City.

I'm a little scared to open them. It says 74021 LF on the picture of the card. No where on the card does it say QAM. In fact, it specifically says "Analog Cable".

What's up? I thought the 74021 did QAM. Is the "LF" something to worry about?

First the 74021 is the model that does QAM. That is the model I have. Do not worry about the "LF". If you notice in the first post of this thread FMAX had the "LF" as well and his is working too. Granted he had the 74041. Both do QAM.

Second, even if it does not work, you an return it to CC for full refund. Just make sure it is within the period for returns.

74551 is the model that reportedly does not do QAM but someone here reported it did anyway.

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by FMAX

SprDty:
try 132-0-1,132-02, or 132-0-3
in my earlier posts the physical numbers on 1600, don't match other Qam devices.
132-3 on my Samsung & HDHR, would depend on how many subchannels are on channel 132.
on your TV if you have 132-1, 132-2, 132-3,
then 132-3 would translate to 1600 as 132(Channel)-0-3(3rd sub channel)

re-check my 2nd post on 1st page.
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...48&postcount=2

Appreciate the info but I think it has more to do with Sage not scanning past 125. Just for fun I installed GB-PVR and I am watching the channel I spoke of right now using GB-PVR. It scans to 138, and finds it no problem. I have tried to map the channel in Sage to 132-all kind of things. No go.. I don't really understand all this stuff real well but I do know that GB-PVR finds the channel at 132 and lets me attach the guide data that belongs to 5-1 with it. Sage doesn't.
Thanks, Randy

[HTPCBoy]

OK - I think I have everything setup - I see all basic channels and all QAM channels, except for one: CBS (Keyedt for anyone in austin). Anyway ... when I am in setup and mapping the channels, this channel shows up clear as day (it's the only one at 100%, for that matter), but when I finish setup and go back to live tv it isn't showing up?!? I thought maybe it had to do with this channel (Keye 82.2) being one point above abc (Kvue 82.1) and having a conflict, but this doesn't seem to be a problem for my FOX and NBC channels. I looked through this thread but didn't see any similar issues. Sorry if this is repeat question ... any thoughts?

[morfinx]

Originally Posted by HTPCBoy

OK - I think I have everything setup - I see all basic channels and all QAM channels, except for one: CBS (Keyedt for anyone in austin). Anyway ... when I am in setup and mapping the channels, this channel shows up clear as day (it's the only one at 100%, for that matter), but when I finish setup and go back to live tv it isn't showing up?!? I thought maybe it had to do with this channel (Keye 82.2) being one point above abc (Kvue 82.1) and having a conflict, but this doesn't seem to be a problem for my FOX and NBC channels. I looked through this thread but didn't see any similar issues. Sorry if this is repeat question ... any thoughts?

When you say it doesn't show, what do you get? No Signal? Blank screen?

[srothwell]

This is what frustrates me to no end!

So I buy a 1600, and it's the one with QAM becuase it works with Hauppauge's software.

When I click on Digital TV Tuner in sage, I get the following error, immediately:

There was a Capture Error in playback. Details: ERROR (-3x80070003); There was a problem accessing the filesystem for capture.

Can anyone please help with this?

Thanks!

[gplasky]

Looks like you're trying to record to a network drive where that user doesn't have rights to write to the drive. Double-check how you're sharing the drive and make sure that user exists on the machine with the network drive.

Gerry

[kevine]

I have had this issue since receiving the 1600. NTSC tuner works fine. QAM is another story. I have tried all the suggestions here on the forum. I do not know if it is cable, Sage or Hauppauge's problem. What I am looking for is a suggestion of what to do next. I hope you fine people can help me.

WinTV brings in most of the expected QAM but the picture staying together is not consistent. Going through Sage it is even worse times 10. I scan the channels but do not get a consistent set with each scan. Comes and goes. Latest gave me no channels found out of 35-40.

I have a HDHR that I love and get all the QAM channels I could possibly expect from QAM with a rare stutter in the recording. That is what is troubling me about the problems with the 1600. I imagine it does not pull in the weak signal as well as the HDHR.

I have logged a problem with Hauppauge. They claim it is cable. I was thinking of asking for a RMA.

I have had cable out, they say the signal is fine. I was thinking of having them come out again because I do get broken reception on the STB out of the SVideo to Sage.

A bit about my cable run... It comes in to the house and goes about 20-30 feet to my a room where my server is. It splits into 2 there 1 cable modem and the other into a 1x8 distribution splitter. 7 are used for my tuners. The last is terminated properly. I use all RG6 cables.

Just FYI: It is not possible to move the server closer or put an amplifier at the enter point because it is in a drop ceiling and there is no electric. It would look horrible coming out of the drop ceiling there anyway. It is a highly visible area.

[Djc208]

Why not put the amplifier at the server, I imagine you have power there and the cable is already split. Either an in-line amp on the line going to the 1x8 or (if you get a good enough cable amp) then you could even look into a 1x2 amplifier to replace the split for the cable modem/1x8.

Unless there is something wrong with the 20-30 foot run from the entrance (in which case replacing that run is your best bet), it shouldn't matter if you amp it at the entrance or at the end.
Just pick an amplifier carefully, with digital and internet a cheap splitter won't usually have the bandwith to amplify the whole signal, and could interefere with portions of it.