Netflix

[drewg]

Originally Posted by sleonard

OTOH, If I could create an import that alters the "Exit" menu item to only exit the mini-client without turning off the display and Power LED than I think I see what you're saying.

To create such an import would require new infastructure from SageTV, since supporting it would require modifying the extender's firmware to do as we're saying. But in general, yes, it is almost certainly doable.

Drew

[sleonard]

I'm giving up on integrated Sage/Netflix and buying seperate boxes. I'm used to the UI on the xbox but am not going to renew my live sub when it expires. I've read that not all the UI's are equal particularly on BD players. I'm looking at the Oppo bdp-93 for both BD and NF as well as a Roku for just NF.

Any comments on the Netflix UI on these or other devices?

S

[PiX64]

My parents jaw a roku and use it for Netflix and hulu plus. Its pretty frigging awesome in my opinion. I have also kinda given up and with the roku being 49.99 I may just get one.

[bialio]

What I would really like to see is a Roku type box that can be controlled remotely - then we could put together an interface (like EP's playon adapter) and plug an HD-PVR into the roku box to get the video into Sage.

I can't seem to find any information on any netflix enabled boxes that allow that level of remote control. Most will let you do what you can normally on a remote from the network, but there aren't any browsable media UPNP type capabilities that I can find.....

btl.

[reggie14]

Originally Posted by bialio

What I would really like to see is a Roku type box that can be controlled remotely - then we could put together an interface (like EP's playon adapter) and plug an HD-PVR into the roku box to get the video into Sage.

As I said in the other thread, I think you can do something like this with the Roku. At least, you seem to be able to with the Netflix instant queue (and maybe not the other apps).

[stevech]

Originally Posted by bialio

I can't seem to find any information on any netflix enabled boxes that allow that level of remote control. Most will let you do what you can normally on a remote from the network, but there aren't any browsable media UPNP type capabilities that I can find.....

btl.

My TV and DVD player, each have ethernet and each has a Netflix client - and an IR remote. Neither use Silverlight. Of course, any small HTPC with Windows can do Netflix and be controlled via IR, LAN or whatever.

[brainbone]

So thinking about alternatives to the loopback hack more;

Has anyone tried Netflix silverlight on Windows 7 SP1 or Server 2008 R2 over RDP using an RDP client that supports Video Redirection (the windows 7 RDP client does), and if so, does it work?

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by brainbone

So thinking about alternatives to the loopback hack more;

Has anyone tried Netflix silverlight on Windows 7 SP1 or Server 2008 R2 over RDP using an RDP client that supports Video Redirection (the windows 7 RDP client does), and if so, does it work?

Nope... aside form the fact that Netflix explicitly blocks it (puts up a warning about not working in a remote session), the RDPv7 video redirection only works with DirectShow playback. Even more aside from that, the point of doing the loopback hack would be for extender playback, which wouldn't be able to run a v7 RDP client anyway. It's silly to do so for PC client playback, as you can just run the silverlight player directly.

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

the point of doing the loopback hack would be for extender playback

The "original" loopback hack used a PC's s-video output, looped back through a capture card to capture the netflix player. This of course limits you to a single netflix player.

Virtualizing the netflix player could be a way to add more players -- but there needs to be a good way of capturing the video output. If it worked in RDP7 (as you pointed out, it doesn't -- and I'm not surprised by this) it could have been a nice way to capture the output.

VirtualBox, however, also uses RDP7 as a way to remotely control a virtual machines local console, and re-compresses any video frame it detects to an RDP7 compatible stream. It would be interesting to see how/if the netflix silverlight player works in VirtualBox over RDP7, if an extender would be compatible with the video stream it creates, and if that works out, how difficult it is to isolate the video stream from an RDP7 session.

[Fuzzy]

Like I said, the netflix player explicitly blocks viewing via a remote session. It will only play if connected to the console session.

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Like I said, the netflix player explicitly blocks viewing via a remote session. It will only play if connected to the console session.

Virtualbox's VRDP is a virtual remote session of the guest's local console, so the Netflix player shouldn't be able to detect it. However, the quality of video delivered over the VRDP session may not be acceptable, if it works at all.