HDHomeRun (HDHR) Prime + SageDCT

[Deacon Crusher]

Would running the files through videoredo fix the issue?

Thanks

Originally Posted by babgvant

For now, it is a "you're stuck with it" thing. SageTV modified the demuxer to deal with some of the oddities in the TS files, other apps would have to do the same unless the packets are rewritten to cleanup the tables.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by Deacon Crusher

Would running the files through videoredo fix the issue?

Thanks

Yes, if they are able to properly parse the streams.

[Deacon Crusher]

Just tested and yep, a quickstreamfix run on a problematic file with videoredo "fixed" the file and now it plays with VLC.

Thanks Andy.

Originally Posted by babgvant

Yes, if they are able to properly parse the streams.

[Skybolt]

Thanks guys, it works great! Now I only wish my cable co. had more CopyFreely stations. Works awesome with WMC7 though.

Originally Posted by babgvant

yes

Originally Posted by doncote0

It is based on the most recent and best successful beta software, after testing and verification. I would trust it as I had no problems with the beta available immediately before this release and this should be at least as good as that beta. This release version has the manufacturers seal of approval.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by Skybolt

I am afraid to try this:

http://www.silicondust.com/support/h...are-changelog/

Has anyone else taken the plunge?

I'm not sure about the Prime, but it appears to have broken the old HDHR and SageTV. I can't get it to tune anymore.

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by phelme

I'm not sure about the Prime, but it appears to have broken the old HDHR and SageTV. I can't get it to tune anymore.

Perhaps the ports changed after the update, I had this happen on the last update, on the Prime though.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by Skybolt

Perhaps the ports changed after the update, I had this happen on the last update, on the Prime though.

I fixed it by having to remove the previous mmc entries from Sage.properties. But still only one of the tuners is being discovered by Sage; even though both scn files are there. Which is a bit of a puzzlement.

Ultimately the Prime will replace it anyway. I'm hoping that Comcast's third (!) visit today will fix the cable card issue I'm having with the Prime... though at this point I'm not optimistic.

[Kirby]

Well in true Charter fashion, they have yet to be able to activate my new M card in my Prime. Cant get anyone smart enough to take all 3 numbers (CC ID, Host ID, Data) and they keep telling me they dont need them, and I keep telling them they do. I will prevail though, of this I am certain! Nice having the headend supervisor's cell phone number, but I have not yet used it. Working on other channels first before I involve him.

[zakrzep]

From a previous poster. I don't think this was answered.

1. Is there any Windows Media Center services that can be set to manual now?

2. Does the HDHomeRun service need to run or does SageDCT Circumvent the need for it after it's setup?


Thanks

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by zakrzep

1. Is there any Windows Media Center services that can be set to manual now?

You don't need to run any 7MC services on the SageTV box. It's possible that MC would interfere with how SageDCT works, so I would avoid setting it up to work with it.

Originally Posted by zakrzep

2. Does the HDHomeRun service need to run or does SageDCT Circumvent the need for it after it's setup?

You don't even need to install the HDHR PC SW on the SageTV box (I don't, I do the FW updates from another machine). So it should be safe to disable the service.

[zakrzep]

Originally Posted by babgvant

You don't need to run any 7MC services on the SageTV box. It's possible that MC would interfere with how SageDCT works, so I would avoid setting it up to work with it.



You don't even need to install the HDHR PC SW on the SageTV box (I don't, I do the FW updates from another machine). So it should be safe to disable the service.

I was under the impression that Windows Media center had to be setup to get SageDCT to work. Is that incorrect?

Thanks

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by zakrzep

I was under the impression that Windows Media center had to be setup to get SageDCT to work. Is that incorrect?

Thanks

Yes, it is incorrect. You do not need to do anything w/ 7MC to get the PRIME to work with SageDCT.

[zakrzep]

Originally Posted by babgvant

Yes, it is incorrect. You do not need to do anything w/ 7MC to get the PRIME to work with SageDCT.

Thanks for the response.

Also,
Is there any settings that need to be changed as far as the "auto reset wait" (currently 15) or the "Auo Reset:" checkbox (currently unchecked)

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by zakrzep

Thanks for the response.

Also,
Is there any settings that need to be changed as far as the "auto reset wait" (currently 15) or the "Auo Reset:" checkbox (currently unchecked)

I wouldn't recommend checking "Auto Reset" unless you're seeing A LOT of "WARNING" messages in SageTV. Generally, the defaults are what I use so I'd say leave them the way they are .

[zakrzep]

Originally Posted by babgvant

I wouldn't recommend checking "Auto Reset" unless you're seeing A LOT of "WARNING" messages in SageTV. Generally, the defaults are what I use so I'd say leave them the way they are .

Will do. Thanks again for all of your help.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by Skybolt

Perhaps the ports changed after the update, I had this happen on the last update, on the Prime though.

ugh. third tech out, 3 more cable cards tried and no activation joy. It doesn't help that each tech is new and not familiar with the Prime so they all want to check the usual stuff, line level etc. I thought by now the techs might be getting the lowdown on my situation before showing up. This guy was going about dual access cards which the TiVo needs. I'm not sure what that even means. This is getting a bit silly.

Have another roll scheduled in 2 days, in the meantime I have an email in to Comcast's help, detailing exactly my situation and asking for tier 2 help for someone familiar with the Prime. That apparently has worked for some other's according to the SD forums.

I'm now wondering if it IS the Prime. Though it seems happy to function with everything else except activation.

[svemuri]

Originally Posted by phelme

ugh. third tech out, 3 more cable cards tried and no activation joy. It doesn't help that each tech is new and not familiar with the Prime so they all want to check the usual stuff, line level etc. I thought by now the techs might be getting the lowdown on my situation before showing up. This guy was going about dual access cards which the TiVo needs. I'm not sure what that even means. This is getting a bit silly.

Have another roll scheduled in 2 days, in the meantime I have an email in to Comcast's help, detailing exactly my situation and asking for tier 2 help for someone familiar with the Prime. That apparently has worked for some other's according to the SD forums.

I'm now wondering if it IS the Prime. Though it seems happy to function with everything else except activation.

Did you try e-mailing to we_can_help@comcast.com? It goes to a "social media" group. An e-mail to them got me working in less than 24 hours. I am in Atlanta area.

[willieb]

Originally Posted by babgvant

For now, it is a "you're stuck with it" thing. SageTV modified the demuxer to deal with some of the oddities in the TS files, other apps would have to do the same unless the packets are rewritten to cleanup the tables.

Andy,
Can you tell us what causes the ts file issues? Is it the Ceton card or do the streams have these issues when they arrive from the cable provider? I have had some weird timecode issues (can't rewind or ff properly, etc) is some of my Cablecard recorded files and have been trying to figure out the cause.

If the streams arrive from the cableco with issues, I assume people with the Prime are seeing issues too?

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by willieb

Andy,
Can you tell us what causes the ts file issues? Is it the Ceton card or do the streams have these issues when they arrive from the cable provider? I have had some weird timecode issues (can't rewind or ff properly, etc) is some of my Cablecard recorded files and have been trying to figure out the cause.

If the streams arrive from the cableco with issues, I assume people with the Prime are seeing issues too?

My understanding is that the raw stream broadcast by the MSO contains multiple programs and some odd (but valid) information in tables that define the contents.

The DCT tunes in the raw stream and filters out the unwanted programs, but (at least in Ceton's case) it does not rewrite the tables. A TS demuxer written to the specification should be able to deal with this file (as demonstrated by SageTV's once they were made aware of the issue), but in practice most components are just based on a specification and primarily leverage test cases (files in this scenario) to make sure something works. Aside from this use case I've never encountered a TS file modeling multiple programs so I imagine that there are very few in the wild, and even fewer with multiple programs in the table but the associated program filtered out; it's understandable that most demuxers aren't able to deal with these files as they are output.

"Fixing" the files requires rewriting the PAT (the table above) to make them denote a single program and stripping out the odd format information.

Theoretically it's possible for Ceton or SD to rewrite the PAT on the fly before streaming them so I don't know if the PRIME outputs files with the same types of oddities but it probably does because the only officially supported application (7MC) will not have this problem because the PBDA+SBE capture system does an end run around it by 1) being able to correctly parse the TS packets and 2) remuxing the elementary streams into a different container.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by svemuri

Did you try e-mailing to we_can_help@comcast.com? It goes to a "social media" group. An e-mail to them got me working in less than 24 hours. I am in Atlanta area.

Yep, compiled an email with details today after the last tech left. Haven't heard anything from them yet.