Is this community dying already?

[bunch92]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

According to Jeff's Google+ post, the community has 'died' by about 10%...

Bad news

[wayner]

Is that users, traffic, posts, EPG requests, etc? It sure seems like it is down a lot more than 10%.

Do you have a link?

[Fuzzy]

Traffic is what he said... seriously, a 10% drop in traffic is incredibly minor for a product that has been out of production/sale for 4 months. If anything, it's a testament to how good the community is.

LINK: Not sure how this works with google plus: https://plus.google.com/115713672488...ts/hc2KVK3oNCu

[IVB]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

According to Jeff's Google+ post, the community has 'died' by about 10%...

Duuuude, he added you into a circle? He didn't add me, I can't see the post. That's it, I'm taking that personally, i'm revoking his invite to christmas dinner!

[wayner]

I find it hard to believe that there is only a 10% decrease in traffic. No one has bought the software in four months but we know that there are users leaving, and so are devleopers.

How many new plugins have been developed recently? How many plugins have even been upgraded? It would be very interesting to see a chart of new plugins released on a monthly basis since V7 was introduced?

Look at the Diamond Forum. Only four threads have received posts in October. Compare that to May and there is a huge difference.

[Fuzzy]

Probably 20% of the posts on the current forum are whines/sky-falling posts, or at the least panic posts for those who feel their tv watching days are over. Diamond has had no further releases, because it is effectively feature complete and has more than they had originally intended to have.

Something to remember, in forums such as this, the traffic is not proportional to the use of the product. It is proportional to the number of problems people have with the product.

[reggie14]

I share wayner's skepticism. The number of posts per day seems to be way down. I'm pretty sure vBulletin keeps track of that, although we don't seem to be able to access the statistics page.

I also agree with Fuzzy's last statement, that traffic is proportional to problems with a product, rather than its use (although, the problems should be proportional to the users...). But that, along with reduced development of plugins, should also mean traffic is down.

This is completely a guess, but I wonder if a lot of Sage's traffic is from web bots. That's probably consistent if you look at the percentage of users on the forums that are guests versus logged in. Right now the stats at the bottom of the page indicate that the most users online was on August 3, 2011, when there was 6,000 users online. To the best of my knowledge, there wasn't anything that happened that day that would have driven people to the forums page, which makes me think a lot of those users were bots.

[heffneil]

It's dying period. I used to love reading these forums and now there is little new and nothing interesting worth reading. You guys are right most of the posts are the sky is falling and why isn't it? Consider what the investment is and you probably made better money reselling our HD300's than any stock investment. I guess anyone willing to dump $400 in to an extender knows something I don't. Alternatives are welcomed and if the price doubled or even trippeled and worked as well or finally better I would buy and replace all 8 HD300's.

Neil

[reggie14]

Originally Posted by heffneil

You guys are right most of the posts are the sky is falling and why isn't it?

Actually, I think there's relatively few "sky is falling" posts. There are far more posts responding to negative-toned posts, and "OMG what is Google going to do" posts.

[tvmaster2]

in the case of Hauppauge products/Sage interaction....well that's a dead end now. If we have a problem, then there's not really a point to discuss, since no one from Sage is around anymore to debug problems. From that standpoint, there's a lot less traffic. now we report to Hauppauge only.

[korben_dallas]

I would take a guess that a fairly consistent number would be daily EPG update count. If that is the number that is down 10%, then good/bad would be a measure of the trend. Did most of that 10% happen at once? Is it linear? Is it accelerating? Things to ponder.

[crusing]

I think the Google buyout generated a lot of interest in SageTV. Traffic was probably up signifigantly for the first 30 days. Just about every home theater website and tech blog posted something about the buyout. It feels like posts are down about 50% from last year this time in my opinion.

[wayner]

And it seems like a good portion of the current forum traffic relates to the Colossus card.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by heffneil

Consider what the investment is and you probably made better money reselling our HD300's than any stock investment. I guess anyone willing to dump $400 in to an extender knows something I don't. Alternatives are welcomed and if the price doubled or even trippeled and worked as well or finally better I would buy and replace all 8 HD300's.

One of the issues that I have is that I don't have the time to get up the learning curve on something else. Therefore it is worth biting the bullet and paying the current high prices on ebay to have a backup or two. The HD-200 is selling for about $150-$200 and in my experience the HD-200 is more stable than the HD-300 but I only have one HD-300 vs 5 HD-200s.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by wayner

One of the issues that I have is that I don't have the time to get up the learning curve on something else. Therefore it is worth biting the bullet and paying the current high prices on ebay to have a backup or two. The HD-200 is selling for about $150-$200 and in my experience the HD-200 is more stable than the HD-300 but I only have one HD-300 vs 5 HD-200s.

more than anything, I like the fact that the HD200 has proper, fixed connectors, not a proprietary cable that's easily damaged or lost...

[wayner]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

more than anything, I like the fact that the HD200 has proper, fixed connectors, not a proprietary cable that's easily damaged or lost...

The HD-300 resembles that remark, at least when it comes to non-HDMI connections.

[stuckless]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A

[reggie14]

Originally Posted by wayner

The HD-300 resembles that remark, at least when it comes to non-HDMI connections.

The HD300 has the weird breakout cable for component video. If it wasn't for that I probably would have bought a second HD300 when it came out.

[hoep]

Originally Posted by stuckless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A

[OneOfMany]

Originally Posted by stuckless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A

My favorite

Grant