Schedules Direct EPG (integrated BETA)

[cculpepp]

Where are the channel logos that are imported from SD now stored? I would like to edit some of them, but noticed that they are no longer stored in the "ChannelLogo" folder used before SD was automatically integrated into Sage.

[pjwerdna]

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Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

Edit: Also can you expand on what you mean by random symbols? When I loaded up any of the mentioned lineups, I see normal text. The way the guide works normally is, you will not see the actual names of the stations. You will only see the station callsigns in the guide.

See attached image taken just before posting. I redid the SD configuration just after the first post and now non SD channels show random symbols as well.

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by starfire

1. No, there is Freeview and I've been using it for some time
3. I suspect your config is invalid, so Sage is defaulting to its internal EPG grabber and UK HD EPG data is encrypted by default hence the weird characters

Can you tell me what values you selected for post code etc?
You may be right about the invalid config, not sure how though. The only bits not selected from a menu are the post code.

Edit:
Fairly certain its not using SD at all. Got many occurances of the following

Sun 12/4 23:10:56.942 [EPG@1736996] EPGDS waiting for data scan on major channel 9018-20544....
Sun 12/4 23:10:57.131 [Thread-86252@1b269b1] CAM: PMT dumper CapInfo:0x10f6020 pmt bytes:70 data:0x115e030 ret:0 (180=180)
Sun 12/4 23:10:59.031 [Thread-86477@55775a] AVINF:(bytes:296) TBS 6280 BDA Digital Capture DVBT-1 AV-INF|f=MPEG2-PS;br=1891000;[bf=vid;f=MPEG2-Video;fps=25.000000;fpsn=25;fpsd=1;ar=1.777778;arn=16;ard=9;w=544;h=576;lace=1;cs=yuv420p;main=yes;tag=e0;index=0;];[bf=aud;f=MP2;sr=48000;ch=2;br=128000;main=yes;lang=eng;tag=c0;index=1;];[bf=sub;f=dvbsub;cpgid=2;apgid=2;lang=eng;tag=bd-20;index=3;];
Sun 12/4 23:11:36.662 [MsgManager@1ef9b5c] ERROR processing EPG data message "EPG-1|9018-40960-40992 DT|UTC:12/10/2016 09:30:00|1200|eng|[set=ISO-8859-1]..............................||Children|  " of:java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 274

and 9018-40960-40992 is one of the HD channels.
When I first installed sagetv I forgot to install the drivers for the tuners so the tuner stuff was done later. Dont know if that would prevent SD working later.

So I guess the quest is... how do I pursuade SageTV to use Schedules direct? Anything I can look for in the properties file etc?

[rkulagow]

There is no "Freeview" lineup anymore; it's been replaced by "YouView".

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by cculpepp

Where are the channel logos that are imported from SD now stored? I would like to edit some of them, but noticed that they are no longer stored in the "ChannelLogo" folder used before SD was automatically integrated into Sage.

You can still add channel logos the manual way. Any logo you provide in the ChannelLogo folder will supersede the logos provided by Schedules Direct. The logo file name just needs to match the callsign of the channel. If this is not working for you, let me know what you tried and I'll look into it.

The channel logos are now stored in the wizard database in the channel objects as "compressed" URL's and are only downloaded and cached when requested instead of being downloaded ahead of time. They actually end up along with just about anything else that was downloaded or had a thumbnail generated in GeneratedThumbnails, but I would not recommend changing the files in there because the URL for the channel could change and that's not what that folder is intended to do. I mention this mostly in case you want to modify the downloaded logo for some reason.

[rickgillyon]

Originally Posted by rkulagow

There is no "Freeview" lineup anymore; it's been replaced by "YouView".

"Youview" is a subs-based service from TalkTalk as I understand it. Freeview should still exist in all areas. It's all DVB-T so I assume it's Freeview with some extra pay channels.

[doc]

Originally Posted by rickgillyon

"Youview" is a subs-based service from TalkTalk as I understand it. Freeview should still exist in all areas. It's all DVB-T so I assume it's Freeview with some extra pay channels.

Yes, Youview is BT and TalkTalk's offering of Freeview through their own set top box that has some pay per view channels and some catch-up apps, such as iPlayer, 4OD, 5 Demand etc that connect via the internet. My Youview box gets used about once a month when I want to use a catch-up app.

By the sounds of it that SD has named their Freeview lineup as Youview. While not technically correct, a lot of people I know don't understand the difference between freeview and freesat, and so to those - who probably already have a Youview box, this might make more sense.

[rickgillyon]

Originally Posted by doc

By the sounds of it that SD has named their Freeview lineup as Youview. While not technically correct, a lot of people I know don't understand the difference between freeview and freesat, and so to those - who probably already have a Youview box, this might make more sense.

So long as the two use the same channel numbers. If not it'll be a PITA for Freeview users.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by rickgillyon

So long as the two use the same channel numbers. If not it'll be a PITA for Freeview users.

Pretty sure they are. YouView isn't really a different broadcast, it's just a FreeView HD tuner, built into a broadband internet based on-demand streaming platform.

[doc]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Pretty sure they are. YouView isn't really a different broadcast, it's just a FreeView HD tuner, built into a broadband internet based on-demand streaming platform.

Yes, just had a look and the channel numbers are the same.

[rkulagow]

Our upstream (Gracenote) and their employees in the UK have decided that having a lineup called "Freeview" which contained pay channels would be confusing, so YouView was created. It should be a superset of the Freeview lineup, so if you don't want a particular station because you're on DVB-T and don't intend on using YouView, then it should just be a matter of not requesting that particular stationID.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by rkulagow

Our upstream (Gracenote) and their employees in the UK have decided that having a lineup called "Freeview" which contained pay channels would be confusing, so YouView was created. It should be a superset of the Freeview lineup, so if you don't want a particular station because you're on DVB-T and don't intend on using YouView, then it should just be a matter of not requesting that particular stationID.

And, in regards to sagetv, the paid channels should automatically be disabled after a scan when it doesn't find them with a basic DVB-T scan.

[cculpepp]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

You can still add channel logos the manual way. Any logo you provide in the ChannelLogo folder will supersede the logos provided by Schedules Direct. The logo file name just needs to match the callsign of the channel. If this is not working for you, let me know what you tried and I'll look into it.

The channel logos are now stored in the wizard database in the channel objects as "compressed" URL's and are only downloaded and cached when requested instead of being downloaded ahead of time. They actually end up along with just about anything else that was downloaded or had a thumbnail generated in GeneratedThumbnails, but I would not recommend changing the files in there because the URL for the channel could change and that's not what that folder is intended to do. I mention this mostly in case you want to modify the downloaded logo for some reason.

Excellent. Thanks!

[pjwerdna]

Thought Id restart the SageTV setup to try and get SD working. (The non HD program guide has eventually filled in but the HD was still unreadable)

Disabled and Stopped the service. Then removed the properties file and the the frq files for the tuners.

On rerunning SageTV 9 It started the setup wizard from the beginning. at capture devices I picked one, set it was a digital tuner and selected the Crystal Palace transmitter. Then things went a bit wrong as the Program guide selection screen is as the attached, i.e. XMLTV, tvtv or no guide. What happened to the Schedules Direct option?

Edit: Added a zipped copy of the sagetv_0.txt containing the complete setup process incase it helps

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by pjwerdna

Thought Id restart the SageTV setup to try and get SD working. (The non HD program guide has eventually filled in but the HD was still unreadable)

Disabled and Stopped the service. Then removed the properties file and the the frq files for the tuners.

On rerunning SageTV 9 It started the setup wizard from the beginning. at capture devices I picked one, set it was a digital tuner and selected the Crystal Palace transmitter. Then things went a bit wrong as the Program guide selection screen is as the attached, i.e. XMLTV, tvtv or no guide. What happened to the Schedules Direct option?

Edit: Added a zipped copy of the sagetv_0.txt containing the complete setup process incase it helps

That looks like you might be using Gemstone. You'll need to change back to the default STV or you will not see the Schedules Direct option.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

That looks like you might be using Gemstone. You'll need to change back to the default STV or you will not see the Schedules Direct option.

His screenshot is not gemstone, it is the SageTV7.xml. That said, it also looks like this is a very old STV version (2013010701). What install file was used to install SageTV?

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

His screenshot is not gemstone, it is the SageTV7.xml. That said, it also looks like this is a very old STV version (2013010701). What install file was used to install SageTV?

I don't want to argue this too much, but I thought I had seen an un-themed screen just like that with Gemstone installed. Either way, unless the default STV is from v7, tvtv shouldn't even be there.

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

His screenshot is not gemstone, it is the SageTV7.xml. That said, it also looks like this is a very old STV version (2013010701). What install file was used to install SageTV?

Correct no Gemtone. This is a clean install
1. sagetv v7.1.9
2. sagetv v9
3. sagetv client v7.1.9

Step 3 was my mistake as I installed version 7.1.9 rather than the version 9 Id downloaded so it was using the old STV.

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by pjwerdna

Correct no Gemtone. This is a clean install
1. sagetv v7.1.9
2. sagetv v9
3. sagetv client v7.1.9

Step 3 was my mistake as I installed version 7.1.9 rather than the version 9 Id downloaded so it was using the old STV.

Yes, using the v7 client to connect to a v9 server will definitely result in what you saw. This is because the STV being used is the local v7 copy on the client instead of the v9 copy on the server. This also creates several other problems that I never actually thought much about until I worked on the code in this area. It's definitely best to always keep your server and clients on the same versions. Otherwise at times they might not really be speaking the same language so to speak.

[pjwerdna]

Ive worked out what my problem with SD aparently not working was.

Seems SD fills in the Channel list with a differant numbering and naming of channels to those from a channel scan.

In the attached the ones highlighted are the Schedules Direct entries that Ive manually changed the physical channel on. The unselected ones are the channels added as a result of SageTVs channel scan which will tune but have no guide data.

After reviewing the channel list Ive had to disable all channels and go through them one at a time enabling and reampping all the Schedules Direct channels.

Basically the same process mapping channel names to numbers from the frq file as was required for the XML giudes Ive tried. The program list does seem more detailed though so it may be worth it long term.