Is a minimal website programming interface in the pipeline, somewhere?

[RedCoat999]

i am using Ultr@VNC program with 128-bit encryption (all free of course) and the free no-ip program to keep track of my ip address.

Originally Posted by Steve2112

Just install VNC on your computer for free & call it day. Connect remotely to your PC from anywhere via Java. pcAnywhere will do the same thing, but cost you money.

Anyone using this method to add shows when at work?

[Crashless]

I'll see your Ultr@VNC and no-ip DUC and raise you PalmVNC for my Treo 600.

I can access Sage from anywhere in the SprintPCS coverage area and it's just like I'm in front of my TV! It's awesome and surprisingly usable. It only has to refresh a 160x160 pixel area, and uses server-side scaling so the experience is actually pretty nice.

Plus, it gets a HUGE WOW factor from friends:

Friend: "Yeah, this show is supposed to be great! But I totally forgot to set my TiVo."
-I pull out my phone-
Friend: "Calling your roomate?"
Me: "No, I'm controling my SageTV."


HAHAHAHA. I love it.

[insomniac]

geek :P

[Crashless]

Harsh dude. Harsh.

[jptaz]

I think it was a complement...At least that is how I take it when some calls me a geek. Because they are the same people asking me for a DVD of a show they missed

[Crashless]

I know, I hate how sarcasm doesn't come across on the net. I always forget that.

If anyone wants help setting this kinda thing up, let me know. It's actually a lot easier than it sounds.

[insomniac]

yep..it was absolutely a joke and a compliment. Electronic gadgets are fun. Geeks are associaited with electronic gadgets and technology.

anyone on this forum would fall into my "geek" criteria.

Now if you want to hear about the geek in me:

If you want to get a real device, I suggest you look into the Motorola MPX.
WIFI,bluetooth,RIM,Windows Mobile OS, camera, PDA, Media player, 1 gig sdram expansion bay, double hinged(like one of my ex-girlfriends)....the list goes on.

Now were talking connectivity!

Lets slap a sage client on that mofo!

I.

Originally Posted by jptaz

I think it was a complement...At least that is how I take it when some calls me a geek. Because they are the same people asking me for a DVD of a show they missed

[insomniac]

guess i should provide a link...

http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/pro.../0,,48,00.html

[Crashless]

I'm a total geek. I got the Treo600 on launch day by bombarding CS reps until I got one that would sell it to me.
It's taking every shred of self-control to hold off buying a new phone this year. The MPx is definilty the best in my opinion, if only it supported EDGE.
I re-read my response, and it did come off a little snappy. Sorry about that, I was just pissed about the Mac I have to work on every day. It wouldn't boot, and I had just spent 2.5 hrs flashing pram, nvram, and trying not to ram the case through the window.

I hate macs....

[insomniac]

a mac can put any intelligent person in a bad mood

Originally Posted by Crashless

I'm a total geek. I got the Treo600 on launch day by bombarding CS reps until I got one that would sell it to me.
It's taking every shred of self-control to hold off buying a new phone this year. The MPx is definilty the best in my opinion, if only it supported EDGE.
I re-read my response, and it did come off a little snappy. Sorry about that, I was just pissed about the Mac I have to work on every day. It wouldn't boot, and I had just spent 2.5 hrs flashing pram, nvram, and trying not to ram the case through the window.

I hate macs....

[Crashless]

Well since I spent so much time typing it, I guess I'll post a copy of the PM I sent mightyt:

OK, hmm, where to start...

http://www.ultravnc.com

Download the vnc app, and install the server. If you have a second computer, it makes testing easier, install the client app on that and see if you can connect within your own network. Usually typing the server computer's name in the connect box from the client will work from within your own network. Otherwise, try it's internal IP address.

Then, go to your firewall, and open port 5900 for both protocols and point it to your server's internal IP.

Now go to:
http://www.no-ip.com/

And sign up for a free account, pick a domain, and install the software. I don't think you have to open any ports for this program, but it has been a while, so I may be wrong. If this doesn't work, let me know, I'll check my setup.

Now, try to connect to your server using it's outside domain name. put:
yourdomain.no-ip.org:5900

in the connect box on the ultravnc client. If this works, you're almost there.

Now, like I posted, I use a Palm OS, so I can only vouch for PalmVNC's capablities. But a quick google search found:

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

Looks pretty good. Give that a try. But I'm sure there are others.

Now, once you have all that working, you can start thinking about more security. I'm thinking about buying a VPN router, they're only like $70. This would make a secure tunnel through the internet to your computer and make it like you're on your home network. I haven't done this yet, so I can only be of little help, but if you need to bounce questions off me, go ahead.

Security wise, make sure you set a password for the ultravnc server. A little more security is gained by requiring a windows logon, but I still would refrain from sending personal info through the vnc client until you get a vpn working.

For palm users go to:

http://palmvnc2.free.fr/

Any questions?

[RedCoat999]

Crashless,
FYI, I too am using the Ultr@VNC too as the server and viewer program. There is a plugin for securing the data stream with 128 bit key available from that website.

[Crashless]

Yeah, I've seen that, but unfortunately I don't think it works with PalmVNC, or the PocketPC version. I believe it's limited to ultr@vnc clients only.

You're right though, I forgot about that plugin entirely. For people that don't need to use thin client software, it's a great solution.

I hope I'm wrong though. It would be great to have another layer of security.

[flagg0204]

I know this is an old thread but some of the comments in here got me thinking. First off, I was under the impression the the EPG data in sage (zap2it) WAS stored in XML format, is this not the case? If not there goes my idea of using perl scripts Second, I like the idea of a command line interface with sage. With that as building blocks it would be easy to make WAP based pages , as well as allowing people to build addons, skins, extensions, etc to the web interface.


Rather than implemting a full on web server, in sage (which would require IIS, eeeew) why not just make the building blocks available and then allow the community to develop the web portion. Its open ended, allows for many different implementations/ideas (as far as web interaction is concerned) and would help us Linux geeks get our CLI fix

[nielm]

Originally Posted by flagg0204

First off, I was under the impression the the EPG data in sage (zap2it) WAS stored in XML format

Nope... Sage uses a hidden binary format in wiz.bin.
However the same EPG data is available from zap2it using XMLTV, so depending on what you want to do, you might still be able to do your perl stuff...

(which would require IIS, eeeew)

There are other webservers in the world

[flagg0204]

Of course there are other webservers, i just figured because it was a windows environment IIS would be used. I know apache can run on windows but not sure joe average user would want to set it up.

[salsbst]

You don't need a full fledged web server system (be it IIS, Apache or IBM WebSphere) to run software that listens to HTTP requests. Both Java and .NET make it a matter of 100 lines of code or so to run a custom HTTP server in your own app. HTTP is a really, really simple protocol.

[rkn555]

I just have my sageTV box running all the time.(winXP PRO)
Im using broadband cable, my ip address hasnt changed in a year.
I do check it often ,.... go to
Http://whatismyip.com
for a quick reference check.
If you use a Cable/DSL Router. go into your router settings and "Port Forwarding" or something similar that may be listed in your particular router.
and put number 3389 in the "Start" and also 3389 in the "End" and then list your ip address (your internal/private) by running In a Dos/command Window ... ipconfig
and put that number into the "server " ip address(or something similar as to your router.
then in windows xp enable remote desktop.
go into your System panel , then click on the Remote tab.
then click Allow Users to Remotely connect to this computer.

then when you are away from your pc, using another winxp machine.
in Start-Programs-Accessories-communications-Remote desktop connection.
then in the "connect to box" or "Computer" type in the ip address that your cable/dsl connection is.
then in the log in box, use your login name for that machine and then the password that you use to log-in to that machine.
now you are using "that computer" do anything you want to sage (except watch. becasue the decoders cant operate properly)

if you dont use a router , then dont pay any attention to the Router Settings instructions above.

and if you dont use a password normally in your windows log-on.
You then MUST create a password in Control Panel-Users.
Remote Desktop sharing will not work if you do not have a password protected user.

Hope this helps someone.
Works great for me

[nielm]

For those in this thread who have not yet noticed...
Webserver for SageTV 2.1

[kamran]

I would like to watch a live tv at my work over the internet. Is it possible? I tried to use the sageclient and everytime I open the client and put my SAGETV server's ip address it connects and shows me the menu for few seconds then it drops the connect by saying lost connection trying to reestablish. please help me out.

kamran