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cncb 04-01-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jvl711 (Post 627811)
I actually just got a shield this weekend, so I may be able to debug this issue. It is possible I may have broken this when I was correcting items Amazon did not like. They had an issue with the application "Exiting" on pause. I removed it to make sure it would pass testing. This could be a part of the issue.

Do you think you will be able to get the Android TV system screen saver and sleep enabled again? Thanks.

tvmaster2 04-04-2021 07:37 PM

Second Vizio in two years blew its brains out, likely power supply.

So, no more of those. Time for a new brand.

Are there any brands which would allow internal installation of the SageTV Miniclient App? Android TV as opposed to LG’s WebOS?

Plex would be a good, native install as well. If I have to buy another new tv, might as well look at ones with flexibility.

So, can the MiniClient be installed on newer TV’s, or can it only be installed on an external box/stick device?

Thanks

nyplayer 04-04-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629623)
Second Vizio in two years blew its brains out, likely power supply.

So, no more of those. Time for a new brand.

Are there any brands which would allow internal installation of the SageTV Miniclient App? Android TV as opposed to LGís WebOS?

Plex would be a good, native install as well. If I have to buy another new tv, might as well look at ones with flexibility.

So, can the MiniClient be installed on newer TVís, or can it only be installed on an external box/stick device?

Thanks

I have it installed on a Toshiba FireTV works great ... I am sure it can be Installed on any Android or FireTV.

tvmaster2 04-04-2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nyplayer (Post 629624)
I have it installed on a Toshiba FireTV works great ... I am sure it can be Installed on any Android or FireTV.

FireTV being an external box?

NetworkGuy 04-05-2021 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629623)
Are there any brands which would allow internal installation of the SageTV Miniclient App? Android TV as opposed to LGís WebOS?

As far as I know Sony is the only TV Manufacture that uses Android TV for the OS. I installed the old web client but it never worked really well. Never tried with the new version.

nyplayer 04-05-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629625)
FireTV being an external box?

No FireTV OS built in the TV no external box.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/toshiba...?skuId=6398139

tvmaster2 04-05-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NetworkGuy (Post 629627)
As far as I know Sony is the only TV Manufacture that uses Android TV for the OS. I installed the old web client but it never worked really well. Never tried with the new version.

couple more have emerged, TCL, Hisense, Insignia (Best Buy house brand). I’m reading about the difference Josh had getting the app approved for Google Play Store vs. Amazon App store - seems like he had an easier time with Google, so I’d lean towards Android OS over FireTV.
Anyone with an opinion on that?

NetworkGuy 04-05-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629630)
couple more have emerged, TCL, Hisense, Insignia (Best Buy house brand). Iím reading about the difference Josh had getting the app approved for Google Play Store vs. Amazon App store - seems like he had an easier time with Google, so Iíd lean towards Android OS over FireTV.
Anyone with an opinion on that?

I am running the mini-client on both 4K Fire TV Stick and a Shield TV. Other than the huge performance increase because of the process power of the Shield TV, there is very little difference.

waynedunham 04-06-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629623)
Second Vizio in two years blew its brains out, likely power supply.

So, no more of those. Time for a new brand.

Are there any brands which would allow internal installation of the SageTV Miniclient App? Android TV as opposed to LG’s WebOS?

Plex would be a good, native install as well. If I have to buy another new tv, might as well look at ones with flexibility.

So, can the MiniClient be installed on newer TV’s, or can it only be installed on an external box/stick device?

Thanks

I'll add a +2 to that. Myself and my friend Pat. Mine got a backlight failure in the lower left quadrant to the screen. Not too bad unless the right brightness (or was it darkness?) condition was in that quadrant. Then you could see a difference in the darkness in the little rectangle in the lower left of the screen.
My buddy Pat had his screen go bad as well. Luckily he still had several weeks left on the extended warranty he bought with the set. Of course the set was no longer in production so they gave him a choice of 2 models for replacement.
Got the replacement up on the wall with the help of myself and another friend. During setup there was nothing showing up on the screen. He did notice that the set was trying to gain access to his WiFi, but again no indication of anything on the screen. So online with Vizio tech who had him do some tests and confirmed the screen was DOA, so they were sending him a replacement-replacement.
At that point he had had enough of Vizio and bought a Sony and sold the "replacement-replacement" online.

I had no warranty option, mine was a couple months out of warranty naturally. <sigh> So I replaced it with an LG. No more Vizio for this guy either!

They typically get great reviews, but apparently they have a quality issue and fail WAY too soon. Although I do have a 32" Vizio on the wall up at my camp that is still chugging away. <fingers crossed>

tvmaster2 04-06-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by waynedunham (Post 629644)
I'll add a +2 to that. Myself and my friend Pat. Mine got a backlight failure in the lower left quadrant to the screen. Not too bad unless the right brightness (or was it darkness?) condition was in that quadrant. Then you could see a difference in the darkness in the little rectangle in the lower left of the screen.
My buddy Pat had his screen go bad as well. Luckily he still had several weeks left on the extended warranty he bought with the set. Of course the set was no longer in production so they gave him a choice of 2 models for replacement.
Got the replacement up on the wall with the help of myself and another friend. During setup there was nothing showing up on the screen. He did notice that the set was trying to gain access to his WiFi, but again no indication of anything on the screen. So online with Vizio tech who had him do some tests and confirmed the screen was DOA, so they were sending him a replacement-replacement.
At that point he had had enough of Vizio and bought a Sony and sold the "replacement-replacement" online.

I had no warranty option, mine was a couple months out of warranty naturally. <sigh> So I replaced it with an LG. No more Vizio for this guy either!

They typically get great reviews, but apparently they have a quality issue and fail WAY too soon. Although I do have a 32" Vizio on the wall up at my camp that is still chugging away. <fingers crossed>

LG runs itís own is, WebOS. Iím assuming thereís no downloading Android apps on those?

tvmaster2 04-06-2021 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nyplayer (Post 629628)
No FireTV OS built in the TV no external box.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/toshiba...?skuId=6398139

how do you like the Toshiba? Looked at one yesterday - seemed nice, but it's hard to tell in reality since the store feeds it 4k, and we will only be watching 1080p most of the time. Does it upconvert, or down-convert well?
No worries with Amazon being in the TV, aka you can turn OFF Amazon's access to your television?

nyplayer 04-06-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tvmaster2 (Post 629648)
how do you like the Toshiba? Looked at one yesterday - seemed nice, but it's hard to tell in reality since the store feeds it 4k, and we will only be watching 1080p most of the time. Does it upconvert, or down-convert well?
No worries with Amazon being in the TV, aka you can turn OFF Amazon's access to your television?

I have not had any problems with them I bought 2 32 inches for $88 dollars a piece during Prime time .. Put 1 in my home office and 1 in the kitchen. My Eco system is all Amazon anyway so do not care about access so never looked.

KryptoNyte 04-06-2021 06:29 PM

To each their own I suppose, but when I purchase a TV, I do it based on the TV's ability to produce a high quality video image, and that's it. Anything else that the TV needs to do are carried out with another component plugged in to the TV. I don't want to limit myself to some specific TV with an OS that will have zero support sometime in the next 24 to 48 months.

It reminds me of purchasing a TV in 1998 with a DVD player built in. Terrible idea.

nyplayer 04-06-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KryptoNyte (Post 629654)
To each their own I suppose, but when I purchase a TV, I do it based on the TV's ability to produce a high quality video image, and that's it. Anything else that the TV needs to do are carried out with another component plugged in to the TV. I don't want to limit myself to some specific TV with an OS that will have zero support sometime in the next 24 to 48 months.

It reminds me of purchasing a TV in 1998 with a DVD player built in. Terrible idea.

I agree 100% for my main entertainment and bedroom everything is plugged in FireTV Shield etc.. but for places that I really do not need a high end tv a $80 toshiba FireTV that I can run Channels, HdHomeRun and SageTV is great,

KryptoNyte 04-06-2021 06:39 PM

I'm not talking about a high end TV. I'm talking about never limiting my hardware purchase based on a built in OS that won't be supported. When a Firestick 4k can be had on sale for $25 or $30, there's no point in basing a TV purchase on and OS just because it can run the miniclient.

nyplayer 04-06-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KryptoNyte (Post 629656)
I'm not talking about a high end TV. I'm talking about never limiting my hardware purchase based on a built in OS that won't be supported. When a Firestick 4k can be had on sale for $25 or $30, there's no point in basing a TV purchase on and OS just because it can run the miniclient.

Like I said for $80 dollars you get a TV and Firetv :goodjob::goodjob: It is a lot easier to use then a FiresTick switches to Cable TV seamlessly. Everybody is different and has their own preferences so do not knock it. If the OP wants what he wants then he should get it.

KryptoNyte 04-06-2021 07:42 PM

Go buy whatever you want, Edwin.

nyplayer 04-06-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KryptoNyte (Post 629658)
Go buy whatever you want, Edwin.

Ha h ha I am not looking but I will. I am liking Sagetv more and more than ChannelsDVR lately. Josh has really made big Improvements. Being able to add my own transcoding Profiles has been great.

You cannot beat SageTV for livetv.

tvmaster2 04-06-2021 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KryptoNyte (Post 629658)
Go buy whatever you want, Edwin.

I assumed youíd know the things you require, quality product, quality picture, reliability history, weíre obvious enough I didnít have to mention them? But all things being equal in those departments, then I go to level two, and thatís this discussion. When Ajit Pai killed cable cards, and likely our TiVoís, then yes, streaming apps, Plex, etc., will likely matter.
Which is why Iíd never buy Samsung again, as they stop supporting ANY tv they sell the day itís sold.
Sadly, the Toshiba FireTV, with Amazon support, will likely be the only brand to receive support down the road, changing APIís, etc.

tvmaster2 04-06-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KryptoNyte (Post 629656)
I'm not talking about a high end TV. I'm talking about never limiting my hardware purchase based on a built in OS that won't be supported. When a Firestick 4k can be had on sale for $25 or $30, there's no point in basing a TV purchase on and OS just because it can run the miniclient.

Well, yes, there is. Very few NEW tv’s have more than one USB port, which means only one external device that gets power from the TV. So, if you wanted to add a Chromecast and Fire Stick, you’d have to choose.
Lots of things to consider buying a new tv beyond the obvious. As far as support, LG makes a great set, but WebOS? Who knows how long they stick with that. Android, on the other hand, has been around for many revisions and updates. Guess that’s why Sony went with them?
The decision is between vanilla Android, or altered Android (FireTV). And there are lots of good choices of both.


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