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Old 04-18-2017, 04:58 AM
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Portable SageTV setup for my camp

I am looking to buy/build a SageTV V9 setup that I can transport up to my camp in season and bring home when I come home.

What I'm looking to build is an OTA system with at least one HDHR OTA box and then I can hook up (or cast) to my 32" HDTV at the camp for watching shows. I will have a portable drive (I already have tons of those) that I can put recordings on.

So basically what I want is either a low cost portable computer/laptop or dedicated box I can run SageTV V9 on and get good video out to my HDTV (either wired, wireless, or cast).

An option I've seen may be one of the small Android TV boxes and put the Android Client onto it. Can I record shows through that, or do I need something that can run full SageTV V9?

As to the networking part of the puzzle. I know that the HDHR's can be hooked directly to the network port on a PC, but what I think I may need is a minimalist network so I can connect the HDHR, Computer, and TV.

I also have a couple HD100 SageTV Hd Extenders laying around that I could even leave up there at the camp. Can those play all the various recording formats/resolutions?

As far as EPG I'm planning on using a WiFi hotspot to get the EPG every few days and then turn the WiFi hotspot off to keep within my data plan on the camp phone.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:37 AM
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You could always get a mini PC to do this. Wouldn't be super fast, but it would get the job done.

Also, Android TV has DVR capability built in and should recognize HDHR tuners without issue.

Just depends on which one works the best for you I guess.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:06 AM
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This should be very doable with a laptop. You could probably use a cheap router for the network connections and it could act as a DHCP server. It may complain about not having an internet connection but that shouldn't be an issue. You could also use a smaller OTA USB tuner if you don't have already spare HDHR - like a Hauppauge 950 that makes the system more portable and you don't need to worry about the networking so that you could even take it with you to hotel rooms, etc. Assuming that you had a portable antenna.

If I were you I would just hook the laptop into the TV using an HDMI port.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:55 AM
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This should be very doable with a laptop. You could probably use a cheap router for the network connections and it could act as a DHCP server. It may complain about not having an internet connection but that shouldn't be an issue. You could also use a smaller OTA USB tuner if you don't have already spare HDHR - like a Hauppauge 950 that makes the system more portable and you don't need to worry about the networking so that you could even take it with you to hotel rooms, etc. Assuming that you had a portable antenna.

If I were you I would just hook the laptop into the TV using an HDMI port.
A laptop is probably out of the question due to $$$. My existing laptop is used for gaming at the camp while I watch TV.

I just replaced my existing desktop computer and can use my old desktop as the SageTV machine. It is a Shuttle small form factor machine, so not terribly large to carry back and forth. I'll probably bring it back with me when I come home so I can install any updates here since I have to use a WiFi hotspot off my phone to do any internet at camp.

In looking through my old stuff I have an old wireless router that I can use to do the network stuff, and I do have a couple old SageTV HD100 extenders. I also can pull one of my 2 OTA HDHR's off my server here at home since I never need 4 OTA tuners. Keyboard and mouse won't be an issue

So after pondering on this and taking a look at stuff I have laying around I think I have everything I need sitting in my unused pile of technology.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:14 AM
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Sounds like you have your solution.
A while back, there was a thread on the unRAID forum for a build for his RV.
Might be an interesting read for others with the SageTV docker.

https://forums.lime-technology.com/t...rive-concerns/

EDIT: hmmm, that didn't appear to be the thread I recalled. Oh well, if I recall, it was quite interesting small build

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Old 04-21-2017, 12:29 PM
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@waynedunham - I am not sure where you live but the whole camp vs cottage terminology is a giveaway for where you are from here in Ontario.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbur...orth-1.2739559
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:26 AM
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@waynedunham - I am not sure where you live but the whole camp vs cottage terminology is a giveaway for where you are from here in Ontario.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbur...orth-1.2739559
Definitely not in Canada. My camp is up in Maine ("up" from Connecticut anyway).

To my way of thinking a Cottage is someplace on the shore that is MASSIVELY overpriced, not very "remote" at all, where a yuppie goes to sip mimosas on the beach with the other 200 cottage owners.

A Camp is a place out in the boonies on a small-medium sized lake or pond where you go to get away and relax, sit by a campfire, maybe drink a couple beers, get smoke in your eyes, and for dinner you toss a potato wrapped in foil into the edge of the fire and cook a nice steak over the grate. Then as you sit with your full belly you have that nice wood smoke scent in your clothes for the rest of the evening as other campers on the lake saunter by on their evening stroll and stop by to chat for a bit.

Damn, I've got to get up there and open the camp up for the season. Only a few more weeks before I can do that. Hopefully the ice will be at least far enough out that I can get my water going.
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:18 AM
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No no no, a camp is where you pitch a tent, use a sleeping bag, and cook over an open fire.
A cottage is a small house, usually by a lake or in the woods and away from any big cities, where you go for a relaxing vacation.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:10 PM
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No no no, a camp is where you pitch a tent, use a sleeping bag, and cook over an open fire.
A cottage is a small house, usually by a lake or in the woods and away from any big cities, where you go for a relaxing vacation.
No no no, that's a campsite! A camp to me is something with a bit more structure and permanence to it. A cottage is something I'd like to retire to at some point .
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:23 PM
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No no no, a camp is where you pitch a tent, use a sleeping bag, and cook over an open fire.
A cottage is a small house, usually by a lake or in the woods and away from any big cities, where you go for a relaxing vacation.
Sorry I have to agree with the other poster. A campsite is what you are describing while a camp includes a structure.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:37 AM
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Sorry I have to agree with the other poster. A campsite is what you are describing while a camp includes a structure.
Actually, when you go camping you "make camp" at a campsite located at a campground.

To me if it includes some variant of the word camp, then it doesn't involve a permanent structure.

Now can we argue about pop versus soda?
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:56 AM
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Actually, when you go camping you "make camp" at a campsite located at a campground.

To me if it includes some variant of the word camp, then it doesn't involve a permanent structure.

Now can we argue about pop versus soda?
That's easy, it's called coke.
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Old 04-24-2017, 05:21 PM
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Actually, when you go camping you "make camp" at a campsite located at a campground.

To me if it includes some variant of the word camp, then it doesn't involve a permanent structure.

Now can we argue about pop versus soda?
Is there some military service in your background? The reason I ask is that in a military way of thinking a "camp" is indeed a temporary place.

....Oh, and it is Soda. Pop is what some people call their father.

Not sure how it is North of the border, but down here another regional one is whether to call it a Hero, Grinder, Italian, and probably more options nationwide. Those 3 are all right here in the North Eastern U.S. in the New England region.
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Old 04-24-2017, 05:24 PM
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Up here it is pop and the sandwich is a submarine sandwich. Isn't that where Subway got its name? There is a great web page for http://www.popvssoda.com/
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That's easy, it's called coke.
NO IT ISN'T!!! The only "cola" drinks I can stand are the "Cherry" cokes like Mr. Pibb or Dr. Pepper. I will admit that when supplemented with a proper amount of good Rum that a "cola" can be quite palatable.
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Can I suggest "soft drink" as a middle ground?
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Can I suggest "soft drink" as a middle ground?
I don't know, that just sounds like a cop put. Everyone needs to pick a side. I'm team soda all the way.
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Grinders are Hot sandwiches.

Hero or dagwood or sub are all big multi-meat and vegetable sandwiches.

Italian is a specific type of hero/dagwood/sub that sticks to a specific subset of meats/cheeses and should have an oil and vinegar "dressing" dribbled on it.

These are real facts, not opinions and certainly not alternate facts.





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Is there some military service in your background? The reason I ask is that in a military way of thinking a "camp" is indeed a temporary place.

....Oh, and it is Soda. Pop is what some people call their father.

Not sure how it is North of the border, but down here another regional one is whether to call it a Hero, Grinder, Italian, and probably more options nationwide. Those 3 are all right here in the North Eastern U.S. in the New England region.
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Grinders are Hot sandwiches.

Hero or dagwood or sub are all big multi-meat and vegetable sandwiches.

Italian is a specific type of hero/dagwood/sub that sticks to a specific subset of meats/cheeses and should have an oil and vinegar "dressing" dribbled on it.

These are real facts, not opinions and certainly not alternate facts.

Depends where you come from I guess. I grew up in Maine and if it came from a sandwich shop/pizza place and was on a long tubular bun it was called an "Italian" even if it had no traditional Italian meats. It also didn't matter if it was hot or cold.
I now live in CT and here everything like that are called "grinders" with the exception of traditional Italian meats and then it is more common to hear them called "Italians" but many people still just call them grinders.
So far I've never lived anywhere that they are called "Hero" except by visitors to the area from somewhere else.
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I don't know, that just sounds like a cop put. Everyone needs to pick a side. I'm team soda all the way.
What about "soda pop"?
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