Upgrade of version 7 to 9.2,1 on XP fails on plugins

[pjwerdna]

Hi

Been trying to upgrade my XP based SageTV server from version 7 to 9.2.1.

Installed Java 1.7.80 and Windows Installer 4.5, then got SageTV upgraded by skipping LAVfilters and ignoring the STVEVRPrstr.dll error.

SageTV runs etc, but I cant upgdate some of the plugins from bintray as they fail during download. For example...

Sat 5/25 15:52:02.416 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Plugin installation is starting for SageTVPlugin[jetty state=Repository name=Jetty Web Server version=2.3.0.17 type=Standard desc=Provides a platform for SageTV web application plugins.

Currently available web applications can manage SageTV recordings from desktop or mobile web browsers, manage fanart and metadata, provide remote web services for SageTV, configure batch job processing, and more.

The plugin consists of two parts.  The first part is Jetty, a 3rd-party Java web server from Mortbay Consulting that can be embedded in a Java program such as SageTV.  The second part is a set of plugin classes created by the author that interact with SageTV to start, stop, and configure the Jetty web server. author=jreichen screenshots=[http://sageplugins.sourceforge.net/screenshots/jetty/SageTVWebApps.png] videos=null created=6/1/2008 modified=4/23/2011 resPath=jetty webpages=[http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48818, http://tools.assembla.com/sageplugins/wiki/Jetty, http://jetty.codehaus.org/jetty/] implementation=sagex.jetty.starter.JettyPlugin desktopOnly=false serverOnly=false OS=Win,Linux,Mac dependencies=[PluginDependency[SageTV minVer=9.0 type=Core], PluginDependency[Java minVer=1.7 type=JVM], PluginDependency[sagex-api minVer=9.0 type=Plugin], PluginDependency[ant minVer=1.8.2 type=Plugin]] packages=[Package[type=JAR url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-jars-2.3.0.14.zip md5=ebc8f8bad569abc032be14a56d82c8ac overwrite=true], Package[type=System url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-config-files-2.3.0.14.zip md5=5655915b46b3a4a7e4cda4b921ff8560 overwrite=true], Package[type=System url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-user-config-files-2.3.0.14.zip md5=fd7c812bcb0a02018bcf8c694635dfad overwrite=false], Package[type=System url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-webapp-war-file-2.3.0.14.zip md5=50e991ddaa942ce46d04d7673418281e overwrite=true], Package[type=System url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-webapp-context-file-2.3.0.14.zip md5=8144be030148a469dbcdf95cc29531f1 overwrite=true]]] ver=2.3.0.17
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.416 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Checking for compatability of the new plugin...
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.417 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Plugin is compatible!
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.417 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Plugin package Package[type=JAR url=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-jars-2.3.0.14.zip md5=ebc8f8bad569abc032be14a56d82c8ac overwrite=true]
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.417 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Plugin asset name is httpsdlbintraycomopensagetvsagetvpluginsjetty230jettystarterjars23014zip
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.417 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Now downloading the plugin package from https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-jars-2.3.0.14.zip to local cache file PluginInstallers\jetty\2.3.0.17\httpsdlbintraycomopensagetvsagetvpluginsjetty230jettystarterjars23014zip
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.417 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Download requested for files server=https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-jars-2.3.0.14.zip src=null dest=PluginInstallers\jetty\2.3.0.17\httpsdlbintraycomopensagetvsagetvpluginsjetty230jettystarterjars23014zip
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.537 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] ERROR with file download of:javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Remote host closed connection during handshake
Sat 5/25 15:52:02.537 [ReProcessHook@f01b71] Resource download failed from https://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/jetty/2.3.0/jetty-starter-jars-2.3.0.14.zip
Sat 5/25 15:52:06.731 [AWT-EventQueue-0@235ad8] processUserEvent-UserEvent[anything] evtTime=Sat 5/25 15:52:06.812

Downloading the same zip from bintray works from my windows 10 machine so the sites available.

Tried doing a repair but that fails as it tries to install LAVfilters and theyre not supported on XP.

Any ideas what missing that I need to update to get the download working on XP?

[SHS]

Some plug-in are not compatible with SageTV 9

[JREkiwi]

You need Java 8 to download plugins from an https repository.

John

[Galaxysurfer]

May I suggest a switch to Linux? You really are playing security roulette by staying with win xp. I am running Mx Linux as my server base. It is a really "new linux user" friendly os. Please check it out. I prefer it to ubuntu or linux mint. You can test it out with a live usb boot disk without installing it onto a harddrive. Run the version with systemd boot so that sagetv will install & run if you dont know how to alter files to accommodate systVinit. They have a very friendly user forum to help you along the path to using linux. Good luck!

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

You need Java 8 to download plugins from an https repository.

I thought things like the webserver didnt work with java version 8. The first one I tried was the webserver as I use it a lot.

Originally Posted by Galaxysurfer

May I suggest a switch to Linux? You really are playing security roulette by staying with win xp. I am running Mx Linux as my server base. It is a really "new linux user" friendly os.

The machine is only ever used for SageTV. I could upgrade to windows 7 I guess, but its a bit tricky to buy. Not sure about linux as I'd loose use of LCDSmartie for the clock. Also Ive never found a version that actually runs properly on the hardware I seem to have .e.g. I tried the latest Linux mint recently and the driver update process couldnt access the internet to download any drivers even though the web browser worked fine.

[UgaData]

Java 8 works but I think the URL for the WebServers change.

Try http://<Sage Server Name or IP>:8080/sage/Home for the Sage WebServer.

And http://<Sage Server Name or IP>:8080/bmt/#status for BMT

[SHS]

Did Jetty get up date last I head it was incompatible with ver 9

[Galaxysurfer]

I suggested Linux due to it being a free alternative to windows. Mx Linux is a fair bit different than Linux mint & it's user forum is very friendly & helpful. They even have a FB usergroup. You could join Mx Linux user forum & ask about your hardware & if it is compatible with that version of linux. I run a 10+ year old Dell laptop with it just fine. You won't know what you'd be missing unless you give it a try. Your call & good luck with it all.

Jetty is available in SageTV 9 . Looking at my win 10 64 bit install & see

Jetty Web Server 2.3.0.17 as a plugin option under General.

PS at some point in the future I plan on offering up a beginner guide to navigate through the install & setup process for using Mx Linux with Sagetv. I'm sure I'm not the only one looking for an escape from Windows.

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

You need Java 8 to download plugins from an https repository.

John

Seems I cant install the Java 8 on XP that SageTV would install. I always get the same error in the %temp%/jusched.log file. Ive managed to upgrade as far as 1.8.0_152, but cant get any further without this error

[2019/06/01 12:15:03.382, jre-8u161-windows-i586.exe (PID: 844, TID: 840), JavaEnvironment.cpp:0 (JavaEnvironment::detect)]
	TRACE: Exiting JavaEnvironment::detect (entered at JavaEnvironment.cpp:473)
[2019/06/01 12:15:03.382, jre-8u161-windows-i586.exe (PID: 844, TID: 840), UpdateConf.cpp:401 (SetJavaSoftKey)]
	ERROR: Exception with message 'Registry.cpp(431) at Registry::deleteValue(): delete value (HKLM\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\InstallStatus) error. System error [2](system error 2 (The system cannot find the file specified))' caught
[2019/06/01 12:15:03.382, jre-8u161-windows-i586.exe (PID: 844, TID: 840), wrapper.cpp:120 (WinMain)]
	TRACE: Old JRE found: 1.8.0_152

Cant seem to find any fixes for this at the moment.

Is Java JRE 1.8.0_152 enough for SageTV 9?

[Galaxysurfer]

Does your profile show your current hardware used with the win xp server? My dell laptop is a core duo running on Mx Linux. Sorry couldn't resist. It would solve your os issues.

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by pjwerdna

Cant seem to find any fixes for this at the moment.

There's no fix because XP is not supported.

Originally Posted by pjwerdna

Is Java JRE 1.8.0_152 enough for SageTV 9?

If the plugins will download, then yes. I don't think there's any other Java build level requirement.

John

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by Galaxysurfer

Does your profile show your current hardware used with the win xp server? My dell laptop is a core duo running on Mx Linux. Sorry couldn't resist. It would solve your os issues.

Yes that spec is current. Although only 1 of the tuners on the Nove-DT card is enabled as I get a bluescreen in the USB driver if both are enabled. I suspect the laptop doesnt have a GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller for the SATA drives though. All my SATA drives connect using that so proper support would be fairly critical.

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

There's no fix because XP is not supported.

Although they dont say it wont work anymore and I did find the occaisional report of people who seem to have had the same error on windows 7 and 10 which definitely are supported.

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

If the plugins will download, then yes. I don't think there's any other Java build level requirement.

Well they all downloaded except the "External Status socket interface plugin", where that bit of the website doesnt exist anymore. So I'd class 1.8.0_152 as a success.
I stopped updating the XP server when XP was nolonger supported. Then Stopped updating SageTV when v9 came out, partly because it take 15 minutes to start SageTV and things already worked. Though I do wonder if version 7.0.2 of the external status socket interface would have fixed the memory leak.

[Galaxysurfer]

I just posted my instructions for sagetv with mx linux & hauppauge pci cards if you are interested. Not sure how the usb cards work since I dont have any to test them in the mix. https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/sho...046#post621046

Maybe this can help your migration to linux? Good luck! Running openjdk version "1.8.0_212"

[Galaxysurfer]

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/suppo...ort_linux.html

I dont see your usb model listed here. It may require a question off to the Hauppauge Linux developer to get it troubleshooted.


He can be reached at here

https://github.com/b-rad-ndi/ubuntu-...kernel-builder

In my build I am not using the custom ubuntu kernel. I am using the mainline kernel 4.19 with changes from custom media kernel already incorporated & security patches by distro under the Mx Linux OS.

[pjwerdna]

Originally Posted by Galaxysurfer

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/suppo...ort_linux.html

I dont see your usb model listed here. It may require a question off to the Hauppauge Linux developer to get it troubleshooted.

In my build I am not using the custom ubuntu kernel. I am using the mainline kernel 4.19 with changes from custom media kernel already incorporated & security patches by distro under the Mx Linux OS.

Actually the Nova-TD500 is a PCI card, although the tuners themselves are USB with a PCI to USB bridge. Given how old the card is (2010?) Im not sure how keen they would be to support it.

The TBS6280 isnt on that list either and is also nolonger available although that one is PCIe (from 2012 Maybe as the driver is 2015). It does have Linux drivers available but only for version 2.6 or 3 kernels. Just to make things nice and easy the installation instructions are only for the Satellite version of the card.

[Galaxysurfer]

Sorry to hear that. I guess that is an incentive to upgrade to the newer quad cards. I know you probably don't want to spend any money on this setup. At least you knowthen that the newer hardware will be supported then.