WHS v2 and PP2 announced...

[S_M_E]

As posted on the WHS forums:

WHS v2 and PP2 are on the horizon.

http://codecapers.blogspot.com/2009/...announced.html

Apparently PP2 will be out this year and WHS v2 will be out in 2010 with support for w7 homegroups and it'll be 64bit only.

I'm already looking forward to v2...

[Skirge01]

Awesome news! Thanks for the heads up. I hope Sage is working on a 64-bit version, though.

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Awesome news! Thanks for the heads up. I hope Sage is working on a 64-bit version, though.

Why? What advantage would there be for having a 64-bit SageTV? It would only complicate matters with drivers and codecs.

[ace007]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

Why? What advantage would there be for having a 64-bit SageTV? It would only complicate matters with drivers and codecs.

Because when properly written 64bit can provide much better performance. 32bit is old technology and has many limitations.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by ace007

Because when properly written 64bit can provide much better performance. 32bit is old technology and has many limitations.

Originally Posted by sandor

Why doesn't MS just build an OS that will allow 32/64 bit drivers and apps to *both* work?

Apple did it, and continues the transition to a full 64 bit OS with 10.6 - yet "legacy" drivers and apps still function.

I love it went non-programmers talk about how PCs work.

For those who want Sage to be native x64, it's important to understand that Sage is part of a larger ecosystem. All of the moving parts that get loaded in process have to be compiled for the same platform (x64 processes can't load x86 dlls). Currently most of the external components that we use to make Sage go are x86 (big one here is DirectShow filters), as long as that is true, it would be crazy to recompile for x64 (and Sage would have to support two platforms).

x86 is a mature, and stable platform, with proven capabilities in this area; for those who run x64 OSs the WOW works great, for those who don't native works great; what incentive is there for change?

[S_M_E]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

Why? What advantage would there be for having a 64-bit SageTV? It would only complicate matters with drivers and codecs.

32bit was better than 16bit and 64bit will eventually replace 32bit too. Eventually all drivers will be written for 64bit (until we get to 128bit), progress is inevitable.

[stanger89]

I think the question is what sort of improvements are people expecting with a 64 bit SageTV? Sage doesn't use large amounts of memory, doesn't do lots of memory-intensive processing. It doesn't really do anything that would benefit from "64-bit" optomizations.

Of course my question is what's the big deal with PP2 or V2, the link's got nothing more than the OP.

[Slipshod]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I think the question is what sort of improvements are people expecting with a 64 bit SageTV? Sage doesn't use large amounts of memory, doesn't do lots of memory-intensive processing. It doesn't really do anything that would benefit from "64-bit" optomizations.

Seconded. I don't care/need 64bit SageTV. 32bit apps generally work fine on 64bit OSes - I've been running XP x64 for 2 years on my workstation at home. Drivers are another story entirely, and that's what's going to trip me up. I have no idea how I'm going to convince Nextcom to write 64 bit drivers for the R5000.

Of course my question is what's the big deal with PP2 or V2, the link's got nothing more than the OP.

64bit is enough of a big deal for me. I need more RAM for virtual machines!