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Old 12-02-2010, 08:39 AM
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Thumbs up Hauppauge Colossus HD-PVR

http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=12325.0
PS pass the word around to other site thanks

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:15 AM
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Interesting.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:23 AM
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indeed interesting. Does this thing have 2 inputs or is 1 and input and one an output for pass through or something?

Any idea on price?

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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Internal HDPVR?
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:28 AM
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I posted that info PiX64
As for price it should be cheaper or same as the USB model
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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Ah yes...sorry. only looked at the pretty pictures.

thanks for posting this.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:30 AM
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I'm in for one. Unfortunately not until Sage supports it or tax refund time frame which ever comes last.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:32 AM
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So I saw you listed the chipset on your site:
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ViXS XCode-3111
Analog Device ADV7441A
hynix H5PS5162FFR 512MB DDR2
Best guess-will this be better than what's currently in the USB HD-PVR? (or is it about the same. I'm not sure what's in the current model.)
Looks like it will also take an unencrypted hdmi input.

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Old 12-02-2010, 11:24 AM
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Any word whether its PCIe 1.x or 2.x?
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:33 AM
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but unless it performs better than the HD-PVR (i.e. fewer problems), I'm not seeing all that much to get excited about.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:35 AM
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Only Video card make used of PCIe 2.0/3.0 specification
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:56 AM
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I think this thing will have its own set of problems. MPEG2 vs H264? Whole new encoding problems?

PCIe 1.x single tuner. I don't have any room in my server and my tuners are all USB. Need to find a Full ATX board for my next server.

How many people use the passthrough feature on their HD-PVR's?
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:04 PM
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Any word on availability?

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I think this thing will have its own set of problems.
Based on what? History has shown that Hauppauge's first gen products can have problems, but the second generation is very solid. The same thing happened with SD encoders, the WinTV-PVR PCI was somewhat flaky on occasion, kind of like the HD PVR, but the PVR250 that replaced it was the standard for years. I'm optimistic/hopeful that this "gen-2" HD PVR will be like the PVR250 we enjoyed for so long.

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MPEG2 will make a number of folks happy as it's easier to deal with.

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I don't see why, the encodings with the HD PVR are quite solid.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:17 PM
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How many people use the passthrough feature on their HD-PVR's?
I don't think that "we" do, but I think that the video game users do.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:31 PM
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Based on what? History has shown that Hauppauge's first gen products can have problems, but the second generation is very solid. The same thing happened with SD encoders, the WinTV-PVR PCI was somewhat flaky on occasion, kind of like the HD PVR, but the PVR250 that replaced it was the standard for years. I'm optimistic/hopeful that this "gen-2" HD PVR will be like the PVR250 we enjoyed for so long.
I just wonder if the switch from H264 to MPEG2 is too much of change and is more of a new product than a 2nd gen. I'm hopeful as well, especially because Hauppauge seems to be the only consumer level company to be building products for this need. They just need a dual chip version instead of passthrough.

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I don't see why, the encodings with the HD PVR are quite solid.
I thought that too until I bought my third HD-PVR. I have one (newer rev) that has audio drift issues over SPDIF, audio/video sync issues don't qualify as a solid encoding. For a large number of HD PVR's the encodings are solid.
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So, if this thing has unencrypted hdmi input, would this work with an hdfury to capture from the hdmi port of an stb?
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So, if this thing has unencrypted hdmi input, would this work with an hdfury to capture from the hdmi port of an stb?
Do they make an HDFury that does HDMI->HDMI? I would think that would be a hard sell as a non-infringing piece of hardware. Such a device would surely run afoul of the DMCA.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:57 PM
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I just wonder if the switch from H264 to MPEG2 is too much of change and is more of a new product than a 2nd gen.
AVC is .H264. So looks like it will do both. The MPEG2 would be a benefit to those playing back on lower power systems as well as I think be easier to edit.

My 2 HD-PVRs occasionally act up, but personally I wouldn't be running to "upgrade" to these. Still, happy to see a potentially better solution pop up. Too bad it's still from Hauppauge.

Info. on the encoder chip: http://www.vixs.com/briefs/XCode_3111_v2.pdf. Looks like it can handle playback well also. Can't tell max bit rate for recording, although it says it can reduce bit rate from 40Mbps down to 64Kbps (not sure I'd be doing that!)

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Old 12-02-2010, 01:58 PM
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I just wonder if the switch from H264 to MPEG2 is too much of change and is more of a new product than a 2nd gen.
Is this really a switch, or does this card offer both? It says "AVC/MPEG2 HD encoding video codec up to 1080i". Since AVC refers to H.264/MPEG-4 I read this that it supports both encording formats.

But if this card really only supports mpeg2, I'd see this as a step backwards nowadays, since mpeg4 codecs are more efficient compared to mpeg2.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:10 PM
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Do they make an HDFury that does HDMI->HDMI? I would think that would be a hard sell as a non-infringing piece of hardware. Such a device would surely run afoul of the DMCA.
I don't know what I was thinking when I asked that question. I guess the HDfury would be useful if they ever close the analog hole.

I do like the idea of an internal hdpvr though. I will be getting either the original external one or this new one after my tax refund comes back this spring. Unless, of course Sage gets support for CC by then
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