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Old 01-22-2008, 11:56 AM
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List of issues Sage 6.3.6 with HD extender

Dear friends,

I am new to Sage and really working hard these days to like it.

I use WinXP with SageTV 6.3.6 installed and the HD Media Extender in my living room. Should this work well, this would be my perfect setup.

I have multiples issues and would like you to help it out. I am including links to “Standard files” for Video codecs and Containerrs. These files are used in order to get the DivX or DivX Ultra certification. They go beyond Divx and offer way to test also x264, MKV, AAC etc…

Up to know here is what work for me and did not work: Samples files available through these links. These files are free to share and duplicate. My priority would be .mkv with AAC 5.1 channel in at least two audio channel. This does not work for me, either on the server or the Extender. No multiple audio tracks work on the extenders.

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http://www.nuuco.com/fileadmin/H_VIDEO_CODECS.zip
http://www.nuuco.com/fileadmin/I_CONTAINERS.zip

AVI Container
CONT-1A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple AVI container compatibility test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-1B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (mp3 vbr audio-video synch test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-1C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 48KHz 384 Kbps CBR (multichannel test) Sage= Sound too low HD Ext= y
CONT-1D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (MP3 multi audio test – 3 audio tracks) Sage= y (1) HD Ext= no
CONT-1E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 (multi-audio with multichannel AC3 test – 3 audio tracks) Sage= y (1) HD Ext= no
CONT-1F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (AVI subtitles test – 3 subtitle tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-1G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (AVI Chapter test – 3 chapters) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-1H MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 CBR + Multiple subtitles + Chapter + Menu (AVI menus test) Sage= y(2) HD Ext= reset to tv
CONT-1I MPEG4 ASP + DXAudio 2.0 CBR (DivX audio test = old WMA) Sage= yes HD Ext= stutter
CONT-1J MPEG4 ASP + Multi DXAudio 2.0 CBR (multi-audio with DivX audio test) – 3 audio tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= stutter
DivX Container (DivX6 standard)
CONT-2A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple DivX container compatibility test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-2B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (mp3 vbr audio-video synch test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-2C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 48KHz 384 Kbps CBR (multichannel test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-2D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio with MP3 2.0 test – 3 audio tracks) Sage= y (1) HD Ext= no
CONT-2E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 (multi-audio with multichannel AC3 test– 3 audio tracks) – 3 AC3 tracks) Sage= y (1) HD Ext= no
CONT-2F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (Divx6 subtitles test – 3 subtitle tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-2G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (chapter test – 3 chapters) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-2H MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 CBR + Multiple subtitles + Chapter + Menu (divx6 menu test) Sage= y(2) HD Ext= reset to tv
MP4 Container (MPEG4 official standard, Nero Digital)
CONT-3A MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple MP4 container compatibility test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-3B MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (AAC VBR audio-video synch test) Sage= y HD Ext= no sound
CONT-3C MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (multichannel AAC test l) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-3D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio AAC test– 2 audio tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-3E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple LC-AAC 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio en AAC multicanal – 2pistes Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-3F MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 + Multiple subtitles (Nero Digital subtitles test – 2 subtitle tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-3G MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 + chapter (chapter test – 3 chapters) Sage= no HD Ext= reset to tv
MKV Container (Matroska)
CONT-4A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple MKV container compatibility test) Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= y
CONT-4B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec MP3 VBR) Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= y
CONT-4C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 (multichannel AC3 test) Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= y
CONT-4D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio MP3 2.0 test – 3 audio tracks) - Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= no
CONT-4E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 Eng (multi-audio iwith multichannel AC3 test – 3 audio tracks) Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= no
CONT-4F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (Matroska subtitles test – 3 subtitle Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= no
CONT-4G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (chapter test – 3 chapters) Sage= Error Mes HD Ext= reset to tv
OGM Container
CONT-5A MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (Simple OGM container compatibility test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-5B MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (Ogg Vorbis VBR audio-video synch test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-5C MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (multichannel Ogg Vorbis test) Sage= y HD Ext= no sound
CONT-5D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple Ogg 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio with Ogg Vorbis 2.0 test – 3 audio tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-5E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple Ogg Vorbis 5.1 (multi-audio with multichannel Ogg Vorbis – 3 audio tracks) - Sage= no HD Ext= no sound
CONT-5F MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (OGM subtitles test – 3 subtitle Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-5G MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (chapter test – 3 chapters) Sage= no HD Ext= no
WMV Container (Microsoft standard)
CONT-6A WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple WMV container compatibility test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-6B WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (WMA9 VBR audio-video synch test) Sage= y HD Ext= y
CONT-6C WMV9 + WMA9 pro 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (multichannel WMA9 test) Sage= y HD Ext= no
CONT-6D WMV9 + Multiple WMA9 sdt 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio stereo WMA9 test – 2 audio tracks) Sage= no HD Ext= no
CONT-6E WMV9 + Multiple WMA9 pro 5.1 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (multi-audio multichannel WMA9 test – 2 audio Sage= y HD Ext= no

y(1) after selecting new audio channel, border fo dialog box remain on top of video
y(2) Multiple audio channel work as y(1) but other functionality does not work
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:40 AM
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Don't know why this isn't working for you. I've had 5.1ch AAC that plays fine in PCM stereo to my receiver. I'm using the optical out on my HD Extender.

If I were you I'd contact support. This is a user forum not a direct support forum.

Edit: Why do you want 5.1ch AAC when it's going to be converted to stereo?

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Old 01-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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Now I'm actually confused about your extensive testing... let my just go into detail on my setup and I'll explain what I've done and tell you that it IS working.

I have been converting some of my movies to MKV container using AutoMKV to anamorphic 720x480 H.264 video using the original AC3 or DTS audio. SageTV does not currently support MKV chapters or subtitles. I have been informed by support that it is planned for a future release.

My HD Extender is hooked into my receiver by the optical SPDIF. Everything I've thrown at it either gets converted to stereo PCM (MP3, AAC, AAC 5.1, etc) or is passed through to my receiver (AC3 & DTS).

Everything plays fine for me. Maybe if you can give a better description of how you have your extender connected.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:44 AM
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When I say that multiple audio does not work, I mean that I can't switch from Audio 1 to Audio 2 from my Extender while playing the file.

Do you claim that this work for you?
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:53 AM
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When you say Audio1 and Audio2 what formats do you mean because your testing chart is really confusing to look at.
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:31 AM
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When creating a .mkv file using software like AutoMKV, you have to option to encode more than one audio track (french and english) with the video. AVI, MP4, MKV containers supports that.

When reading back with a player, some will read the #1 only audio track while others support switching from an audio track to another.

I am encoding my .mkv with french and english audio track. In SAGE TV I can switch from audio track #1 to audio track #2. In the HD extender I can't. I hav read that this is supported.

If you download the CONTAINER.ZIP file, you could test if you can switch audio track with your installation. The file name in the Container.zip file is the one that show in the first column of my test.

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