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Old 01-11-2012, 10:10 PM
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Great to hear from Jeff, I just hope that what he is producing does not get kiboshed by Google because it doesn't fit with their strategy for the future. Let's not forget that Google has thrown a lot of spaghetti on the wall in the last decade and not all of it has stuck.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:17 PM
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I still work on SageTV every day along with the whole team from SageTV before it was bought. SageTV is not dead. Ohhh....I wish I could say more...but that time has not come yet....
It's Alive!
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:11 AM
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I still work on SageTV every day along with the whole team from SageTV before it was bought. SageTV is not dead. Ohhh....I wish I could say more...but that time has not come yet....
Patience, patience, patience... I want it now!!! Sigh, good to hear from you!

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Old 01-12-2012, 08:33 AM
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I still work on SageTV every day along with the whole team from SageTV before it was bought. SageTV is not dead. Ohhh....I wish I could say more...but that time has not come yet....
(shivers) did a ghost just pass by? Nah. Thank you so much for those four words: "SageTV is not dead" (somebody make a t-shirt with that slogan) 2012 just started to look much brighter
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:24 AM
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Wow...then that begs the question. Why buy SageTV at all?
How about an analogy.

Dinosaurs are "old" technology.
No, Dinosaurs become extinct due to a massive meteor hitting the earth.


Google is the meteor.

Then I read Jeff's post. SageTV may end up the engine inside the also purchased Motorola boxes

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Old 01-12-2012, 10:27 AM
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How about an analogy.

Dinosaurs are "old" technology.
No, Dinosaurs become extinct due to a massive meteor hitting the earth.


Google is the meteor.

Then I read Jeff's post. SageTV may end up the engine inside the also purchased Motorola boxes
That doesn't make sense. Google didn't have to kill Sage. It was no threat to them.

Something else must be at play here.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:11 AM
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That thread made my day , woohoo !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:18 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Google didn't have to kill Sage. It was no threat to them.

Something else must be at play here.
I agree. What that something else is...no clue.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:24 AM
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I'm sure glad he threw us a bone. But I can't help agree that as you say, something else must be in play.

If they work on sage everyday and sage is not dead, then I don't understand why the store is still closed. Many people have already left because they cannot get hardware and/or client licenses.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:20 PM
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Taking what Jeff said literally, you could take it two ways...

What everyone seems to have concluded:
1. That they're working on improving the code of the SageTV software we've all come to know and love and incorporating Google's vision.

Or, what it could also mean:
2. That they're working on a totally new set of code we've never seen, but is simply called SageTV, perhaps even simply being used as an internal codename.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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Taking what Jeff said literally, you could take it two ways...

What everyone seems to have concluded:
1. That they're working on improving the code of the SageTV software we've all come to know and love and incorporating Google's vision.

Or, what it could also mean:
2. That they're working on a totally new set of code we've never seen, but is simply called SageTV, perhaps even simply being used as an internal codename.
yeah but it took how many years to get the code to that point? why would they start from scratch?
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:33 PM
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:53 PM
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Seems to me that everyone's easily pleased... you don't really think that Google are still allowing the old SageTV team to continue working on SageTV as it was... do you?

Just because Jeff posted a message doesn't mean anything is actually going to come of it. For all we know it could just be a research gig where Google let the old team run with their ideas and if anything takes their fancy they use it for another Google product.

Let's be honest... SageTV as it was is dead... no more updates... no new versions and no new hardware.

Or another way to put it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:07 PM
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Seems to me that everyone's easily pleased... you don't really think that Google are still allowing the old SageTV team to continue working on SageTV as it was... do you?

Just because Jeff posted a message doesn't mean anything is actually going to come of it. For all we know it could just be a research gig where Google let the old team run with their ideas and if anything takes their fancy they use it for another Google product.

Let's be honest... SageTV as it was is dead... no more updates... no new versions and no new hardware.

Or another way to put it.
You may be right, but why string us along if nothing is ever going to come of it? That's just uncool.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:12 PM
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You may be right, but why string us along if nothing is ever going to come of it? That's just uncool.
I have no doubt that what Jeff posted was in good faith. Buy I doubt that he makes the final call on if or how this ever makes it into an end-product that we will see.
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yeah but it took how many years to get the code to that point? why would they start from scratch?
I didn't say they started from scratch. I just said it was code we're never seen. Any code I haven't seen/used would be "new" to me.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:34 PM
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As I pointed out in the "comments" (aka doomsday) thread, it's not typical human behavior to have bad news and say "I wish I could tell you!"

If he was bound to silence and what he had to say was something that would anger everyone, he wouldn't WANT to tell us. He most likely wouldn't post at all.

But his post said "Sage is not dead" and he said he really wants to tell us but we will have to wait. I find it a stretch to believe that this means anything other than "I think you're gonna like what I have to tell you."

(disclaimer: as I also posted in the other thread, what we "like" and what he THINKS we'll like may not 100% jive, but I think he'd know whether what they're doing would be universally DISliked)
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:47 PM
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Let's be honest... SageTV as it was is dead... no more updates... no new versions and no new hardware.
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Well seeing how Jeff said it was not dead, then I would have to think we should have some hope. I think Jeff knows what we would interpret 'dead' to mean
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Great news Jeff!

Thanks for update!
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Well seeing how Jeff said it was not dead, then I would have to think we should have some hope. I think Jeff knows what we would interpret 'dead' to mean
Ben's middle name is Nancy. As in negative. He is from the UK after all...

I kid Ben. I kid.
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