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Old 02-04-2017, 01:54 AM
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New Media Players that work with our SageTV's?

What are you folks replacing these with? I need a couple new one's for a new sagetv project in my motorhome. I bought a replacement one from opus4 a while back but now i need more. Will any of those ott boxes connect to sagetv? Now that the opensource server is out there, we are going to need more choices for players. Putting a pc next to the tv again would not fly anymore after using an hd200 -Bill
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Old 02-04-2017, 06:09 AM
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See the Android mini-client threads. Many people are using either the NVidea Shield or a Mi-Box sold only at Walmart with the mini-client software for Sage.

There are trade-offs, but several people seem to prefer these over the HDx00 extenders.
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Old 02-04-2017, 08:28 AM
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I'm not sure I 'prefer' the Mi Box over the HD300, but the availability and the price point at $69 is definitely in it's favor.

It does get you netflix and youtube and such all in the same box as well.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:13 AM
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I will drop by a local Wallydocking location and pick one up for testing.. Thanks!
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:18 PM
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They don't sell the MiBox at Wallyworld here in Canada but I will pick one up when I am in the US in a few weeks, but I still find that the HD-200 and HD-300 are the best. It might be worth trying to source used ones from former Sage users.
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Old 02-04-2017, 01:44 PM
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Yeah, its too bad no one can get the factory to make a bunch more. I bet they could be sold, and the parts are probably a lot cheaper now. Hopefully someone on the opensource side see's an opportunity to fund more coding via hardware sales... Dedicated devices would probably work a lot better than something that can do everything.
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Old 02-04-2017, 02:11 PM
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Yeah, its too bad no one can get the factory to make a bunch more. I bet they could be sold, and the parts are probably a lot cheaper now. Hopefully someone on the opensource side see's an opportunity to fund more coding via hardware sales... Dedicated devices would probably work a lot better than something that can do everything.
But there is an upside to doing everything as you can use the Android devices to run other apps like Netflix which many or most people will want, The main issue with the Android boxes so far seems to be playback of MPEG-2 and remote control issues.
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Yeah, its too bad no one can get the factory to make a bunch more. I bet they could be sold, and the parts are probably a lot cheaper now. Hopefully someone on the opensource side see's an opportunity to fund more coding via hardware sales... Dedicated devices would probably work a lot better than something that can do everything.
Honestly, the major difference in actual use between the android tv box and the HD300, ends up being the limited remote, not the fact that it "can do everything".
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Honestly, the major difference in actual use between the android tv box and the HD300, ends up being the limited remote, not the fact that it "can do everything".
I'll second that. The only thing that I found limiting was the remotes that come with these boxes.
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Old 02-05-2017, 08:43 AM
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I'll second that. The only thing that I found limiting was the remotes that come with these boxes.
I favor the HD200/300 because of digital audio pass-through. Tell me if I'm wrong, but MI-box and Nvidia Shield won't feed the digital audio to my surround sound system. If you're happy with stereo sound, then the Android boxen are fine (if you can put up with the limited remote functionality).
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Any and all of these devices seem to introduce trade-offs. The Sage boxes seem to gag on Samba shares as well as high-resolution video. The Android devices have their issues with multi-channel audio and/or OTA ATSC ...
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I favor the HD200/300 because of digital audio pass-through. Tell me if I'm wrong, but MI-box and Nvidia Shield won't feed the digital audio to my surround sound system. If you're happy with stereo sound, then the Android boxen are fine (if you can put up with the limited remote functionality).
ExoPlayer supports pass through on the Android client.
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ExoPlayer supports pass through on the Android client.
Cool, thanks. Might be time to pick up a MI-box and try it out...
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Old 02-07-2017, 03:14 PM
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Any and all of these devices seem to introduce trade-offs. The Sage boxes seem to gag on Samba shares as well as high-resolution video.
I haven't seen issues with high resolution video - are you talking files with resolution above 1080x1920?

And by samba shares - do you mean if you have a linux server with media on samba shares from Windows drives? I have extenders working fine with media files on servers on V7 with Win7, V9 with Win10 and V9 with unRAID Linux and have never seen an issue.
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