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Old 07-20-2005, 04:32 PM
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Well said parkimar!! Thanks again Opus4, as always great work!
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:14 PM
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Ok, I missed this announcement and don't feel like looking for it - what was this great news?
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:27 PM
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Ok, I missed this announcement and don't feel like looking for it - what was this great news?
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...14&postcount=2

This is good news. With BTV 3.72 released, they are trying to play catch up with SageTV with features like Plextor ConvertX support and Non-Circular-Buffer recordings, we need a new update to keep them behind.

I don't expect much from 3.0, but any improvement is better than none. I'll defnitely beta test it.
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:28 PM
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It was just an update on 3.0... It's in the sticky right above this.

I just applaud the fact that we got an update on status without prodding for it, but most are happy I'm sure that Opus announced that the public 3.0 beta will PROBABLY be out by the end of this week.
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:08 PM
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"without prodding for it". Haa!

I guess if you ignore all the posts over the last year, it's possible to imagine that nobody has prodded for it.

A rational observer would notice that information is delivered when it is ready to be delivered, and that asking for information is unrelated to the publishing thereof.
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:50 PM
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I wonder if it will be released only for windows or for Linux as well.. Would love to give it a try on Linux platform.

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Old 07-21-2005, 03:12 AM
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Only if it has COMSKIP support...
Sage are very unlikely to put comskip in the default install for legal reasons...
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Old 07-21-2005, 08:11 AM
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Yup, I would expect that. I know I wouldn't stick my neck out if I were them...


That is why I said 'or could be easily added'.

Really all it needs is to support the playback support.. Doesn't need to support generating the TXT files, as that is very easily done outside of Sage.

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Old 07-21-2005, 10:55 AM
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That's cool i just hope no major show stopping bug pop crop up before the end of the week when they release it

chrysek i maybe wrong on this but i thought i recalled hearing that freys was only going to release the linux version in a premade linux box system and not the software because of how difficult linux is to setup and not wanting to glut the boards with linux questions that they don't have time to answer. So i don't think their will be a linux downloadable version of sagetv not until it gets easier to setup linux at anyrate.

As i said i could be wrong as i don't pay attention to linux and related things much but thats what i recall reading somewhere on the forum.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:49 PM
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I thought the main change with 3.0 was being able to run on a linux platform? I wouldn't be expecting a lot of new features, but would love to be proved wrong. All the really interesting functional improvements that we all like (comskip, dvd archiving, etc...) probably can't be integrated out of legal fears. This is why so many people like the Myth platform, because all these features are integrated in Myth.

I wonder how easy the various user STV's will be able to be integrated in a Linux version? I know comskip can run on Linux already, but it doesn't look like many others could.

With linux video support getting better and better (the latest Myth version has much better XVMC support - a Via C3 can now decode 1080i with no stuttering), and VMR9 confusion with windows video acceleration, linux is looking better and better.

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Old 07-21-2005, 03:00 PM
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I'll hold my thanks until Saturday...
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Old 07-21-2005, 03:25 PM
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Sage are very unlikely to put comskip in the default install for legal reasons...
wonder how snapstream is getting away with their "Smart Skip" feature built-in to BTV for sometime now.
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wonder how snapstream is getting away with their "Smart Skip" feature built-in to BTV for sometime now.

The TV industry is just now grasping the idea that computers can do this stuff. About the only thing I would give them credit for right now is not condeming video on the internet as a whole (similar to how the RIAA hated mp3 just for being an mp3) and is actually starting to try things out to counteract it. Sure it may be DRM'd up the wazoo but its better than doing nothing.

I still wouldnt trust it however until its been proven to be legal.

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Old 07-22-2005, 03:00 AM
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wonder how snapstream is getting away with their "Smart Skip" feature built-in to BTV for sometime now.
/thread derail
I saw mentioned in another thread that BTV's system is a kind of generic chapter detection -- that also happens to detect commercials as chapters. Also the skip is manual (you have to press a button) not automatic. This could be just enough to avoid lawsuits (as the *intent* is not to only skip commercials)...
Of course the other explanation is that HTPCs are still under the radar of the TV industry
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:07 AM
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/thread derail
I saw mentioned in another thread that BTV's system is a kind of generic chapter detection -- that also happens to detect commercials as chapters. Also the skip is manual (you have to press a button) not automatic. This could be just enough to avoid lawsuits (as the *intent* is not to only skip commercials)...
Of course the other explanation is that HTPCs are still under the radar of the TV industry
/end thread derail
Yeah, that is my concern. About a week ago I had a couple of TV content folks over and was showing them my SageTV setup. One of them is an add buyer. When he saw how I could set it up so that I never saw the commercials, he started asking lots of questions. He's even called me twice since, just to talk about that. He and his team had no idea PCs could do this.
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:15 AM
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Well thanks for letting the cat outta the bag... J/K
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:29 AM
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omg..something a salesperson didnt know? Imagine that...
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:10 AM
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Yeah, our salespeople where I work are pretty well clueless as far as technology goes. They think changing something small in our e-commerce software should be simple, they just don't realize what all has to be done on the back-end to get what they want done.

I did find it funny that they didn't realize you could skip commercials, or even edit them out . I thought everybody knew you could do that with 'Tivo' Devices .
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:33 PM
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I did find it funny that they didn't realize you could skip commercials, or even edit them out . I thought everybody knew you could do that with 'Tivo' Devices .
Just wait till they find out about VCRs!
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