SageTV v3.0.5 Beta - Page 4

ascv · #61 07-28-2005, 03:17 PM

Got a quick question about beta 3.0.5

I got it installed. Was looking at a few shows (checking channel changing ) and that was working fine. I was on channel 4 "Dr Phil" when I shut Sagetv down. I had no recordings scheduled on shut down. Yet I noticed in my sage rec folder that DrPhil.mpg was still growing in size (even thought sagetv is shut down). Well I thought that when that show ends at 4pm, it would stop recording. Nope. The recording jumped to Oprah.mpg now (same channel). I did not turn sage back on yet.

Why am I recording the last channel after I closed Sagetv ? Did I miss something on the setup?
thanks

Blue · #62 07-28-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mlbdude

Do you know the steps to reproduce this? - The FF/RW bug.

The only fix I've seen for this issue is to revert back to an earlier quartz.dll version. Unfortunately this breaks Full Screen Renderless mode in TheaterTek. I'm surprised that it doesn't affect Full Screen Exclusive mode in Sage.

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The jittery video is quite annoying and my wife hates it when I have to ff and rw three or four times to make it stop.

Stopping and restarting playback also seems to work. But I agree, my wife and I can't even watch the playback when this happens.

agover · #63 07-28-2005, 04:04 PM

Ok so im a bit confused here Andy. Is the HDTV support active as of 3.0.5?

Ive been tinkering and it is now recognizing my HD card but it seems broken.

Im using the Dvico Fusion 5 gold card, which is not listed as supported by the preliminary test although I really hope Frey does support it otherwise Sage gets the boot soon as I hate Dvicos software. <sigh>

Anyways Sage 3.05 is recognizing the card and options for selecting the tuner show the following:
FusionHDTV, WDM Video Capture
|- Composite
|- Digital_TV_Tuner
|- S-Video
|- TV Tuner
FusionHDTV, AvStream Audio Capture
|- Digital_TV_Tuner

Selecting "TV Tuner" seems to enable the standard analog tuner only, but inleast channel scans are enabled.

Selecting "Digital_TV_Tuner" simply places a "Loading Preview. Please Wait..." message forever. You can force it through at which point you are prompted to select input type (aka Cable/Sat or OTA) followed by a lineup choice. Unforunately once you hit this point it seems that Sage has NO idea what to do. The program will show an on screen channel selection, but does NOT allow you to scan for active digital channels.

Im pretty sure that Sage 2 did not even see my Fusion card, so something has changed but it seems to still be disabled (or messed up considering my card is not part of the preliminary test cards)

Good luck to others..
Adam

White94Cobra · #64 07-28-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mseery

It wasn't SageTV. Our installer does not include Quartz.dll.

Michael Seery
SageTV Quality Assurance

It must have been the drivers, because I reinstalled the latest PureVideo again and it did not overwrite the DX9b Quartz.dll file. I had been using the DX9b file for months and suddenly noticed the jittery playback after upgrading to the v3 Beta. I looked and sure enough, the Quartz.dll was DX9c. I was just coincidence that I had done several upgrades in a small time-frame. I usually don't do that, but I wasn't expecting the Beta and was anxious to install it.

Unfortunately I get a playback exception error when using FSE mode in Sage with the DX9b Quartz.dll file.

Is there no way Frey can fix this issue? It seems strange that you have to revert to an old Windows file for acceptable playback within Sage with a VMR9/Nvidia decoder combo. The files pay fine in any other player (Windows Media, Meedio, Nero). I know this is covered in another thread somewhere, so I'll go back and read through it again.

stanger89 · #65 07-28-2005, 04:10 PM

agover,

What I was told was to pick Digital TV Tuner, and "Don't Configure Tuning" at which point you'd be given the channel lineup. I'm not really surprised the scanning doesn't work, you'll probably have to manually enable/disable the channels you do/don't get.

What you see seems a lot like what I've seen in my very preliminary testing of my A180. Perhaps I'll try and get my A180 installed in my server tonight and play.

agover · #66 07-28-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stanger89

agover,

What I was told was to pick Digital TV Tuner, and "Don't Configure Tuning" at which point you'd be given the channel lineup. I'm not really surprised the scanning doesn't work, you'll probably have to manually enable/disable the channels you do/don't get.

What you see seems a lot like what I've seen in my very preliminary testing of my A180. Perhaps I'll try and get my A180 installed in my server tonight and play.

The weird thing is that the channel lineups are more like cable than like HDTV channels. In the software from Dvico for example PBS here (Toronto/Grand Island area) would show up as:
43-1 (HD) WNED
43-2 (SD) WNED
43-3 (SD) ThinkBright

However the sage lists are showing standard channels so in WNED's case the PBS is sitting in the 500's, I can remap and Sage is accepting 43 and/or 43-1 both of which cause Sage to crash when tuning to them though.

Thanks for the heads up none-the-less. Hopefully someone will send out a quick how to

stanger89 · #67 07-28-2005, 04:21 PM

Which lineup did you pick?

agover · #68 07-28-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stanger89

Which lineup did you pick?

It showed up as a cut down version of Rogers Digital Cable for GTA. So it has pretty close to the OTA lineup (excepting that OTA we get Grand Island NY as opposed to Detroit) but all the channels are similar.

I just went through and remaped CityTV HD and CTV HD as well but neither worked.

It seems like it doesnt realize how to tune for HDTV, as Sage either goes to a functioning tuner screen (with a black image, no actual tv) or goes to the tuner screen and immediately locks up. At which point it takes about 3-5 minutes to actually crash and allow me to exit.

stanger89 · #69 07-28-2005, 04:29 PM

That's why, you need to pick "Local Broadcast" and then your area.

agover · #70 07-28-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stanger89

That's why, you need to pick "Local Broadcast" and then your area.

After selecting "Digital_TV_Tuner" I get the "Use external cable or sat receiver"/"Dont configure tuning" option screen (I selected "Dont configure"). Then it moves to the screen asking for which EPG data service you want (I chose XMLTV/Can/US) then I chose "Local Broadcast" which gives me 1 option: Rogers Cable Inc: Toronto Metro.

I think my old install is messing me up here... Im going to remove and reinstall.. It seems to be picking up the old Canada listings plugin instead of the new canada listings from tribune directly.

--->SNIP...

Ok so after reinstall I actually could select the appropriate lineup for Buffalo NY (which is pretty much as close as I can get without creating a custom lineup. Unfortunately the same problem persists.

Analog TV doesnt work well - ie black screen only
Digital TV causes black screen followed by application crash

stanger89 · #71 07-28-2005, 04:48 PM

Oh, I'm in the US, using the native guide. Actually before you reinstall. Go into your properties file (with sage and service closed of course

) and try deleting the epg plugin line.

Freegoo · #72 07-28-2005, 05:42 PM

I have a crash bug, when I try to go To/From Full Screen mode while a show is playing the playback stops and Sage freezes. Hard to three finger salute it with full screen exclusive mode as well.

ptaylor · #73 07-28-2005, 07:25 PM

I thought 3.0 was supposed to support WMV? I have a good number of those files (since I was using Beyond TV's ShowSqueeze feature), but I'm not seeing any of them show up in my library...

Yes, I do have them in the appropriate file structure.. For one series, I have one .avi episode, one .mpg episode, and 5 .wmv episodes, but only the .avi and .mpg's show up in the Import screen..

Also, I tried Nielm's suggestion in the 3.0.3 thread about deleting the filename extension entry in the Sage.properties file while Sage is stopped, but when I restart Sage, I get the same line back in the file, with no .wmv extension... (I even tried manually adding it, but no dice!) So, they aren't showing up on the imports screen...

I am running Sage in service mode, but I wouldn't think that would be causing my trouble... (But, could this be the case?)

Paul

Opus4 · #74 07-28-2005, 07:28 PM

You have to exit SageTV, and stop the service if that is running, before editing the properties file.

- Andy

ikarus79m · #75 07-28-2005, 09:03 PM

Here is another weird thing i noticed since 3.03. Every once in a while Sage decides to start a liveplayback from some random channel. After I delete a show, or switch to another menu, suddnely another liverecording starts to playback.

Has anybody else ever had this experience?

sleonard · #76 07-28-2005, 09:24 PM

Something is wrong with the SageClient 3.05 installer. On both of my client systems I tried installing 3.05 over top of 3.03 and both times I got a dialogue giving me choices to "Modify", "Repair", or "Remove" the current install instead of the normal installer. It was as if it thought it was a 3.03 installer not one for a newer version. Niether Modify nor Repair worked (unable to connect to the server after) and I had to uninstall and do a fresh install.

Also, after upgrading the server Sage lost my 2nd of 3 tuners (all PVR250's) I am waiting for a show to finish recording to try and find out how to add it back. It is not listed at all as a configurable source so I can't just go into setup and reconfigure it.

sleonard · #77 07-28-2005, 09:50 PM

More info on the lost tuner, any ideas?

From sagetv_0.txt

Thu 7/28 20:40:22.417 EncoderMap1={Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture, Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2, ATI Rage Theater Video Capture=ATI Rage Theater Video Capture, Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #3=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #3}
Thu 7/28 20:40:22.674 Encoder passed the check:Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
Thu 7/28 20:40:22.769 Encoder failed the check:Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2
Thu 7/28 20:40:22.770 Permanently ignoring encoder:Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2
Thu 7/28 20:40:22.770 Removing encoder because it failed the check:Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2

From Sage.properties

mmc/ignore_encoders=Realtek AC97 Audio,Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture \#2,

insomniac · #78 07-28-2005, 09:51 PM

same happened to me (both issues). I just uninstalled the client completely and reinstalled fresh.

For the capture cards, you will find the missing ones in your sage.properties file in the ignore encoders blah blah..

stop all instances of sagetv and go remove your encoders from that line. Restarting sage should bring it back.

On a side note...

Im not sure that I could blam sage for any strange hardware issues, but on my server after installing v3, 3 of my tuners actually went on the fritz. They became unavailable in windows and when they came back after a reboot, they were as explimations (no drivers or conflict). Another reboot brought them back to life.

Like I said...so very odd..........

I.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleonard

Something is wrong with the SageClient 3.05 installer. On both of my client systems I tried installing 3.05 over top of 3.03 and both times I got a dialogue giving me choices to "Modify", "Repair", or "Remove" the current install instead of the normal installer. It was as if it thought it was a 3.03 installer not one for a newer version. Niether Modify nor Repair worked (unable to connect to the server after) and I had to uninstall and do a fresh install.

Also, after upgrading the server Sage lost my 2nd of 3 tuners (all PVR250's) I am waiting for a show to finish recording to try and find out how to add it back. It is not listed at all as a configurable source so I can't just go into setup and reconfigure it.

CarlG · #79 07-28-2005, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insomniac

same happened to me (both issues). I just uninstalled the client completely and reinstalled fresh.

For the capture cards, you will find the missing ones in your sage.properties file in the ignore encoders blah blah..

stop all instances of sagetv and go remove your encoders from that line. Restarting sage should bring it back.

On a side note...

Im not sure that I could blam sage for any strange hardware issues, but on my server after installing v3, 3 of my tuners actually went on the fritz. They became unavailable in windows and when they came back after a reboot, they were as explimations (no drivers or conflict). Another reboot brought them back to life.

Like I said...so very odd..........

I.

That's twisted:/

Hector · #80 07-28-2005, 11:49 PM

Great catch man. This bug was killing the audio on my PVR-350 and I was having to turn on software decoding just to get audio and I had no idea why.

peace . . .

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Originally Posted by ikarus79m

Im wondering why Sage TV mutes my "line-in" channel every time i start it. This is really annoying since i route my audio through my line in.

Is this a beta issue?

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