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Old 01-11-2005, 05:20 AM
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Just to confirm, the problem completely goes away when not in service mode.
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Old 01-15-2005, 12:44 AM
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Is there any fix for this? I really want to use service mode with UNC paths. HEremote crashes when I try since I can't click "interact with desktop" using my own service logon name. I can't even get girder's event to work....

Please, there has to be some sort of solution.

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Old 01-15-2005, 06:19 AM
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I believe the EXE Tuner plugin can be made to run in service mode, but I don't think you would want to try to use Girder to change channels if you're running the service, since Girder doesn't run as a service. It might work if you stay logged in, though.

Anyway, sounds like the problem is with "HERemote", not SageTV.
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Old 01-15-2005, 08:11 PM
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Well the exetuner plugin is made to interface with an external tuning program, such as girder, heremote, etc... So If the exetuner works in service mode but will not allow interaction to these other non-service applications, then its safe to assume the exetuner plugin does not work in service mode. The only way to have it work is to enable the "interact with desktop" option under services. When you are using UNC paths to your recording directories you must run Sageservice under a network login capable user name. In doing so, you lose the option "interact with desktop".

So to sum up, the exetuner plugin does work with girder, heremote etc. Only when using the "localsystem(Default)" login. But you cannot use UNC paths.

This is not really a good solution in my opinion. With software like FireDaemon you can still allow "Interact with desktop" while using a login other than the default. A solution would be for the Sage Sevice Control to somehow implimant the same work around that FireDaemon uses, whatever that may be.
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:16 AM
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Narflex... I can't seem to get this Multi tuner plugin to work with heremote. The original works fine. Is there any reason you might think that it shouldn't work?

Besides the addition of the %DEVICE% option is there any other changes?

Thank You
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:27 AM
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I just tried to use it with girders event.exe and girder's receiving nothing... I've got the registry settings as you said, and I used the normal exetunerplugin registry settings as a guideline.

????
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:40 AM
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figured it out after a few searches on here... it was a problem with long file names in the registry... Had to us C:\PROGRA~1\HEREMO~1\HERemoteHelper.exe %DEVICE% -channel# %CHANNEL% Enter

To get Heremote to work
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:25 AM
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EDIT:

Look like I loose the function of this plugin once I change the device_name=StubDevice to anything else... Not sure what StubDevice is, but it somehow has to be there in order for it to work...

Isn't anyone reading this that has used the multituner plugin, seems like there's no feedback from other users...
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Old 01-23-2005, 04:45 PM
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I still have the problem too, but due to time constraints I haven't done anything with it. I currently leave my computer on all the time. I was going to work around the problem by using sagewake instead of running Sage as a service.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:05 AM
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Question Configuring device names with ExeMultitunerplugin
I have 2 tunners (1 PVR250 and 1 Plextor MP402).
I want to use Sage 2.1, ExeMultitunerplugin.dll and Girder 3.3 to manage channel changes in 2 Dish receivers.

I tested the combination with one tuner.
When Sage changes channels Girder recieves:
Device Name = STUBDEVICE
Channels = 123 (what ever channel was changed)

When I add the second tunner what Device Name will Sage send?
Is there a way to change the device names (like Device1, Device2, etc.)?
What will happen if Sage needs to change both tunners at same time?

Thanks in advanced...
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:00 AM
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Look like I loose the function of this plugin once I change the device_name=StubDevice to anything else... Not sure what StubDevice is, but it somehow has to be there in order for it to work...
I was having the same problem, and I'm glad to report that I found a solution!

In the C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\Common\RemoteCodes folder, you'll see a file called StubDevice.ir. I copied this file into 2 different files (DSTV1.ir and DSTV2.ir) and edited the contents to change StubDevice to DSTV1 (not sure whether the contents change is required, but I did it anyway). I then copied these files into the EXEMultiTunerPlugin subfolder that was already there. After this I edited the Sage.properties file and changed the device_name values to correspond with the 2 new IR files. That's it!
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:56 PM
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Would anyone be willing to share their gml file for girder that supports this multi tuner plugin configuration?

I have it working with a single tuner (using exetunerplgin.dll), but not sure how to use the %device% parameter within girder.

I have multiple tuners (mostly) working working with the multdcttunerplugin.dll (which bypasses girder), but it only works most of the time. I'd like to see if i could get girder working in this manner.

I'm also using serial cables to change the channel, but shouldn't matter what is used in the gml file, since i can change that part myself.

I've been sruggling with this for some time, thanks.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:32 AM
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I was having the same problem, and I'm glad to report that I found a solution!

In the C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\Common\RemoteCodes folder, you'll see a file called StubDevice.ir. I copied this file into 2 different files (DSTV1.ir and DSTV2.ir) and edited the contents to change StubDevice to DSTV1 (not sure whether the contents change is required, but I did it anyway). I then copied these files into the EXEMultiTunerPlugin subfolder that was already there. After this I edited the Sage.properties file and changed the device_name values to correspond with the 2 new IR files. That's it!
When you say you edited the "device_name" values... how did you go about figureing out which one meant what? My sage.properties file, for a unit with only TWO tuner cards, has about 10 device_name entries in it after cryptic numbers groupings, and then ACTUAL device names after a different setting alltogether:

mmc/encoders/1642691032/1/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/1642691032/2/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/1642691032/2/1/device_name=
mmc/encoders/1642691032/3/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/1642691032/3/1/device_name=
mmc/encoders/1642691032/video_capture_device_name=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
mmc/encoders/1642691032/video_capture_device_num=0
mmc/encoders/551195575/1/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195575/2/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195575/2/1/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195575/3/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195575/3/1/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195575/video_capture_device_name=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
mmc/encoders/551195575/video_capture_device_num=1

Why can't sage simply send the "video_capture_device_num" INSTEAD of the name? Then also have a setting in here of "remote_code_file=StubDevice1.ir" etc?

Excuse my dreaming again... I tend to see 'simple solutions to simple problems'.

Main question is: what where do I change what so that multiple devices being tuned by sage will actually send the proper device code to the exemultitunerplugin ???
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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Well, nevermind my above question, because I cannot for the life of me even get ANY plugin to show up in the video source screen (neither the EXETuner, nor the MultiTuner).

I simply believe that these things are no longer functional in the latest versions of SageTV... because this topic is too friggen old with outdated and useless (lacking?) information. I dont even think it knows where to look in the registry anymore as "Frey Technologies" is a depreciated reg location for sagetv.

*sigh* ... man I so hate reading old threads hehe.

Once I get all this working for SageTV6 (I hope)... I will write a NEW GUIDE for people to use that isn't riddled with holes and inaccuracies.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:52 AM
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I'm using the exemultituner plugin with version 6 with no problems. As far as getting it to show up in the video sources screen I'm pretty sure it was just a case of dropping the dll in the common folder.
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:37 PM
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Please Help - USB UIRT working great EXCEPT won't learn my remote
Hi everyone,

After about a year away I'm firing up SageTV again. I've got everything working well except...

My USB UIRT won't recognize any IR commands from my DirecTV remote control (the red LED light on the UIRT works fine except when learning from the DirecTV remote.) The USB UIRT drivers are installed, batteries are all good, and the UIRT does pick up the IR signal from my Hauppagge remotes. But, when I'm at the SageTV config menu for 'source setup'. Sage doesn't recognize that I am pressing the DirecTV remote control buttons when I aim the remote at the UIRT...

Has anyone else had this problem? The problem seems to be with Sage accessing the device during learning mode... At all other times, the red LED's function properly. The device otherwise works fine (i.e. I can change menu selections using the Hauppage remote via commands sent to the USB UIRT.)
Please help. I've tried new and old USB UIRT drivers.

Go Bears!!


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-mostly fodder
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:15 PM
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ahhh some things haven't changed in the past year..

i solved my problem i tried holding the remote very close to the USB UIRT and it seems to be working at about 1 cm away.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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Hi again guys beening try to get the plugin Exemultitunerplugin to work so far i have got sage to send the commands to girder with payload1(device (StubDevice1 and StubDevice)) and payload2(channel) but now sure how to make the gml for girder

i have a gml that is working with exetunerplugin (works great thanks who ever i got that1 of ) here is the script

l = strlen(pld1);
for i = 1,l-1 do
s = strsub(pld1,i,i)
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,500);
end
s = strsub(pld1,l,l)
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,200);
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-enter",18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,300);
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-exit",18);

Now this is the script for the exemultitunerplugin witch i sort of made and need help with

u = strlen(pld1);
if (u == StubDevice1) then
l = strlen(pld2);
for i = 1,l-1 do
s = strsub(pld2,i,i)
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,500);
end
s = strsub(pld2,l,l)
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,200);
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-enter",18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,300);
TriggerEvent("cable-motorola-exit",18);
end


if (u == StubDevice) then
l = strlen(pld2);
for i = 1,l-1 do
s = strsub(pld2,i,i)
TriggerEvent("cable1-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,500);
end
s = strsub(pld2,l,l)
TriggerEvent("cable1-motorola-"..s,18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,200);
TriggerEvent("cable1-motorola-enter",18);
TriggerEvent("Global-Scripts-Pause",18,300);
TriggerEvent("cable1-motorola-exit",18);
end


so any help would b most welcome of if and 1 has a gml ready made that would b great too
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:52 PM
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OK, I'm somewhat new to the exemultituner plugin. I'm using firewire to change my channels on my cable box, but I want Sage to change the channels for me and I haven't been able to get it to work. I'm now at the newest version of Sage 6.4.8. I'm also running SageTV as a service.

My registry entry is as follows:
command=D:\Software\SageTV\Firewire\channelw.exe -f -a4 %DEVICE% %CHANNEL%

If I run this command from the command line, it changes the channel no problem.

My dll is located:
C:\Program Files\SageTV\Common

I have a file named 2.ir located:
C:\Program Files\SageTV\Common\RemoteCodes\EXEMultiTunerPlugin

Contents of 2.ir are:
2 38000 400 3

My properties file for the section that should matter:
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/available_channels=
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/brightness=116
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/contrast=121
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/hue=128
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/last_channel=
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/provider_id=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/saturation=113
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/sharpness=63
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/tuning_mode=
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/tuning_plugin=
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/tuning_plugin_port=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/video_crossbar_index=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/1/0/video_crossbar_type=1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/available_channels=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/brightness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/contrast=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/hue=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/last_channel=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/provider_id=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/saturation=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/sharpness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/tuning_mode=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/tuning_plugin=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/tuning_plugin_port=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/video_crossbar_index=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/0/video_crossbar_type=2
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/available_channels=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/brightness=116
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/contrast=121
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/device_name=2
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/hue=128
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/last_channel=108
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/provider_id=962144708217
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/saturation=113
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/sharpness=63
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/tuning_mode=
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/tuning_plugin=C\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\Common\\EXEMultiTunerPlugin.dll
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/tuning_plugin_port=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/video_crossbar_index=1
mmc/encoders/551195576/2/1/video_crossbar_type=2
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/available_channels=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/brightness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/contrast=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/hue=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/last_channel=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/provider_id=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/saturation=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/sharpness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/tuning_mode=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/tuning_plugin=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/tuning_plugin_port=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/video_crossbar_index=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/0/video_crossbar_type=3
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/available_channels=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/brightness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/contrast=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/hue=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/last_channel=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/provider_id=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/saturation=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/sharpness=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/tuning_mode=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/tuning_plugin=
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/tuning_plugin_port=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/video_crossbar_index=1
mmc/encoders/551195576/3/1/video_crossbar_type=3
mmc/encoders/551195576/audio_capture_device_index=-1
mmc/encoders/551195576/audio_capture_device_name=
mmc/encoders/551195576/audio_capture_device_num=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/audio_processor=
mmc/encoders/551195576/broadcast_standard=
mmc/encoders/551195576/capture_config=67600
mmc/encoders/551195576/default_device_quality=
mmc/encoders/551195576/delay_to_wait_after_tuning=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/device_class=DirectShow
mmc/encoders/551195576/dshow_tv_type=
mmc/encoders/551195576/encoder_merit=0
mmc/encoders/551195576/encoding_host=
mmc/encoders/551195576/forced_video_storage_path_prefix=
mmc/encoders/551195576/last_cross_index=1
mmc/encoders/551195576/last_cross_type=2
mmc/encoders/551195576/live_audio_input=
mmc/encoders/551195576/never_stop_encoding=false
mmc/encoders/551195576/video_capture_device_name=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
mmc/encoders/551195576/video_capture_device_num=2
mmc/encoders/551195576/video_encoding_params=DVD Standard Play
mmc/encoders/551195576/video_processor=

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:37 AM
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i am having the same problem as jpaddock3000 BUT i am able to change channels on sage in service mode about 4 times before it stops working. I can still change channels from command line.
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