STV Import: MovieTimes Movie Listings Import v0.57 Beta

[robogeek]

The dragmetohell-tlr1rr_h480p file name that is trying to be played when playing a trailer is interesting. It looks like part of a streaming URL. Did you have MTSA configured for streaming trailers at some point? If so, you might try deleting the moviedata.xml file and try rerunning MTSA. It almost seems like MTSA isn't downloading trailers because they may already be defined as streams in the moviedata.xml file.

I don't think it should matter, but you are missing some of the newer config options in the config.xml file. The newer options should be pretty self-explanitory...here is a copy of my config.xml file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" standalone="no"?>
<ConfigurationSettings>
	 <LocationFile>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\locations.xml</LocationFile>
	 <LogFile>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\media\log.txt</LogFile>
	 <TempFolder>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\media\Temp\</TempFolder>
	 <NumberOfDays>7</NumberOfDays>
	 <PosterFolder>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\posters\</PosterFolder>
	 <PosterQuality>High</PosterQuality>
	 <PreferEnglishPosters>True</PreferEnglishPosters>
	 <TrailerDownload>True</TrailerDownload>
	 <TrailerFolder>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\trailers\</TrailerFolder>
	 <TrailerQuality>HD480</TrailerQuality>
	 <PreferEnglishTrailers>True</PreferEnglishTrailers>
	 <BackDropFolder>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\backdrops\</BackDropFolder>
	 <RemoveOldMedia>True</RemoveOldMedia>
	 <DownloadExtraDetails>True</DownloadExtraDetails>
	 <DownloadExtraDetailsTMDB>True</DownloadExtraDetailsTMDB>
	 <DownloadFanArt>True</DownloadFanArt>
 	 <XmlDataFile>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\media\moviedata.xml</XmlDataFile>
	 <XmlSchemaDataFile>\\dvr-server\Movies\movieshowtimes\media\moviedata.xsd</XmlSchemaDataFile>
</ConfigurationSettings>

If you prefer english posters and trailers, at least copy those settings as True to your config file since they default to False if they don't exist. Other than having the fanart downloaded to a folder, the BackDropFolder and DownloadFanArt options won't do anything special in SageTV until they are integrated in to the MovieTimes STV import. I'm not sure, but I think DownloadExtraDetailsTMDB might replace IMDB summary and possibly actor list if set to True.

[thomaszoo]

I am pretty sure I didn't have it configured to stream trailers, but I am not even sure how to do it. As an aside, I do see a small temporary file appear for Angels & Demons. But when it is all done, everything disappears. I tried using your config.xml (modified with my file locations) but that didn't even give me posters. I did notice that your file locations used UNC paths; is this recommended even if all the files are on a local drive? Deleting the moviedata.xml file didn't seem to have any effect.

I lost some time last night when I had to replace 3 capacitors in one of my HD-100s. Hopefully I can play around some more with it tonight. Thanks for the ideas.

Wayne

[pjpjpjpj]

Originally Posted by robogeek

I'm using HD480 for quality and I've got 14 trailers out of 16 total movies listed in SageTV. I also don't have a trailer for Up and the poster art downloaded for Up is wrong as well...it downloaded the poster for Knocked Up. With such a short name, the poster and trailer search is probably not very accurate and that's probably why Up is causing trouble.

I have 14 trailers as well, though I have not counted how many I should have (again, not at home right now) - but I do have the "Up" poster that is incorrect (like you) and do not have the "Up" trailer. Do you have "Angels & Demons"? Looking online right now at what is playing at a local theater, I think I also do not have "Night at the Museum", "17 Again", or "X-Men" (can't remember if I have "drag me to hell" or not). I have a "dollar cinema" in my list and I am getting a lot of the older trailers from those now-second-run movies, so I should have more than just 16 trailers total, I suppose.

Another issue. Yesterday my wife called and said Sage "was being very slow". I told her to go reboot the server, which she did. This solved it. This morning, I turned on the TV for 5 minutes before leaving for work, and it was slow again. So I went downstairs to reboot, and discovered that a command prompt window was open, and MovieTimes was running and acting as though it was downloading. Upon asking, my wife confirmed that this same situation was occurring the day before (why didn't you mention that when I had you reboot, honey???). I did not have time to mess with it, so I rebooted and left for work. I expect that the same thing will happen tonight, overnight, if I do not make some changes.

So that brings up questions - why is this suddenly happening (I did not change anything - this is complete coincidence with me posting on this plug-in a few days ago)? What time of day does MT start trying to download trailers? Can it be changed (and how)? And more importantly, how can I check to see if it is still really downloading, or if it is locked up? I suspect it is locked up - I checked network status and it was at 0% activity, which would mean nothing was downloading, right? Or is it possible that it is trying to download huge HD files and it's just taking hours?

[pjpjpjpj]

Originally Posted by robogeek

The only thing I can think of is that you don't have your trailer quality set to one of the HD settings (which I don't think are available in the current MovieTimes STVi). The MovieTimes STVi was developed before the newer HD trailer quality settings were available in MTSA. If you set the quality option as HIGH in the plugin config page, I'm pretty sure you're not getting the HD trailers. You can't change it to one of the HD from the MovieTimes config page in SageTV, so you'll have to open the MTSA config.xml file with a text editor and change the <TrailerQuality> setting to one of these other settings: HD480, HD720, or HD1080

Just to be clear - I replace the word "high" with "HD720" (for example) in the XML file? Will that mess with the STVi, since (in scanning through it) I saw a few references to the term "High"? In other words, does the STVi look into the XML for the word "High" (and thus it would not find it if I changed it to "HD1080")?

Originally Posted by robogeek

I'm not sure if this related problem was addressed, but in a much earlier version of MTSA, setting the quality to HD1080 only downloaded HD1080 trailers. And if a 1080 version of the trailer didn't exist, it wouldn't revert to a lower quality so you would have movies that wouldn't get any trailers even though a lower HD quality trailer existed. You'll have to try HD1080 and if you get fewer trailers, set it to HD720 or HD480. And you'll have to delete your existing movie trailers so MTSA can re-download the HD trailers.

So an older version had "HD480", "HD720", and "HD1080" as options, but a newer one only offers "high" or "low"? Is that because the newer one has (when set to "high"), the "look for the highest version available, and if none, take the next-highest" function, whereas the older version did not?

[thomaszoo]

I went back and made only a few changes to config.xml to see if I could get things working (working remotely). I added the line

<TrailerDownload>True</TrailerDownload>

and that seems to have done it for me. I do have a trailer for Angels & Demons. I have TrailerQuality set at HD480; I will probably play around with this now. Thanks again for your help and patience.

Wayne

[thomaszoo]

I set trailer quality to HD1080; I got trailers for all the same movies when it was set at HD480. All of the file sizes were much larger except for Angels & Demons which was exactly the same.

Now I can't wait to get home and actually try them out!

Wayne

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

Just to be clear - I replace the word "high" with "HD720" (for example) in the XML file? Will that mess with the STVi, since (in scanning through it) I saw a few references to the term "High"? In other words, does the STVi look into the XML for the word "High" (and thus it would not find it if I changed it to "HD1080")?

Correct. I downloaded one of the original MTSAs that had the HD options in the XML file and have upgraded the .exe file many times, but still get the HD trailers using the HD1080 option. I also get lower res trailers when there aren't any HD1080 ones available. I never overwrite my config file, though, only the .exe file. I always manually input the new switches and add my own comments.

So an older version had "HD480", "HD720", and "HD1080" as options, but a newer one only offers "high" or "low"? Is that because the newer one has (when set to "high"), the "look for the highest version available, and if none, take the next-highest" function, whereas the older version did not?

Based on my setup and the results I get, I do not believe that's correct. If anyone knows otherwise, feel free to correct me.

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

I have 14 trailers as well, though I have not counted how many I should have (again, not at home right now) - but I do have the "Up" poster that is incorrect (like you) and do not have the "Up" trailer. Do you have "Angels & Demons"? Looking online right now at what is playing at a local theater, I think I also do not have "Night at the Museum", "17 Again", or "X-Men" (can't remember if I have "drag me to hell" or not). I have a "dollar cinema" in my list and I am getting a lot of the older trailers from those now-second-run movies, so I should have more than just 16 trailers total, I suppose.

I do have trailers for Angels & Demons, Night at the Museum, 17 Again, X-Men, and Drag Me To Hell. Other than the PreferEnglishTrailers and TrailerQuality settings in the config.xml, I'm not sure why you wouldn't be getting the trailers.

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

Another issue. Yesterday my wife called and said Sage "was being very slow". I told her to go reboot the server, which she did. This solved it. This morning, I turned on the TV for 5 minutes before leaving for work, and it was slow again. So I went downstairs to reboot, and discovered that a command prompt window was open, and MovieTimes was running and acting as though it was downloading. Upon asking, my wife confirmed that this same situation was occurring the day before (why didn't you mention that when I had you reboot, honey???). I did not have time to mess with it, so I rebooted and left for work. I expect that the same thing will happen tonight, overnight, if I do not make some changes.

So that brings up questions - why is this suddenly happening (I did not change anything - this is complete coincidence with me posting on this plug-in a few days ago)? What time of day does MT start trying to download trailers? Can it be changed (and how)? And more importantly, how can I check to see if it is still really downloading, or if it is locked up? I suspect it is locked up - I checked network status and it was at 0% activity, which would mean nothing was downloading, right? Or is it possible that it is trying to download huge HD files and it's just taking hours?

I'm running MTSA v4.6.8 and haven't seen this problem. You should check the MTSA log to see what the last items in the log are. I deleted a trailer and fired off MTSA and it redownloaded the deleted trailer fairly quickly and hasn't been locking up on me.

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

Just to be clear - I replace the word "high" with "HD720" (for example) in the XML file? Will that mess with the STVi, since (in scanning through it) I saw a few references to the term "High"? In other words, does the STVi look into the XML for the word "High" (and thus it would not find it if I changed it to "HD1080")?

Yes, that's all you have to do. If you change the TrailerQuality setting manually to HD1080, the STVi will read the new setting and display it as HD1080 in the MovieTimes config screen. But if you click that setting in the MovieTimes config screen, the popup will not list HD1080 as a selection since the new HD480, HD720, and HD1080 settings aren't coded as options in the STVi. The options for the config settings are hard coded in the STVi so the newer HD480, HD720, and HD1080 TrailerQuality settings (and all of the other new MTSA config options) aren't in the STVi and have to be set manually by editing the config.xml with a text editor. These options only affect MTSA, so as far as the STVi is concerned, it doesn't matter that the setting options are hard coded or whether or not you manually change settings in the config.xml file to something that is not available through the STVi.

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

So an older version had "HD480", "HD720", and "HD1080" as options, but a newer one only offers "high" or "low"? Is that because the newer one has (when set to "high"), the "look for the highest version available, and if none, take the next-highest" function, whereas the older version did not?

No, High and Low (and StreamHigh and StreamLow) were the only download options in the older versions of MTSA which basically meant you had the option to download High quality (larger downloads) trailers or Low quality (smaller downloads) trailers. This MovieTimes STVi was written when those were the only download options. Now we can use HD480, HD720, and HD1080 to get different HD versions of the trailers, but since the STVi hasn't been updated, these setting are not available from within the MovieTimes config screen in SageTV.

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by thomaszoo

I went back and made only a few changes to config.xml to see if I could get things working (working remotely). I added the line

<TrailerDownload>True</TrailerDownload>

and that seems to have done it for me. I do have a trailer for Angels & Demons. I have TrailerQuality set at HD480; I will probably play around with this now. Thanks again for your help and patience.

Wayne

I can't believe I missed that in your config file.

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by thomaszoo

I set trailer quality to HD1080; I got trailers for all the same movies when it was set at HD480. All of the file sizes were much larger except for Angels & Demons which was exactly the same.

Now I can't wait to get home and actually try them out!

Wayne

That's cool. If it's reverting to smaller HD trailers when it's set to HD1080, then I'll have to change mine to HD1080 now

You asked about my usage of UNC paths in the other post...The only reason I used UNC paths is so I can use the same MTSA config (config.xml, moviedata.xml, posters, and trailers) on my SageTV Client running on another PC. This lets me execute MTSA on the server but allow both the server and the other PC client to access the data, posters, and trailers through a common UNC pathname.

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by robogeek

That's cool. If it's reverting to smaller HD trailers when it's set to HD1080, then I'll have to change mine to HD1080 now

You asked about my usage of UNC paths in the other post...The only reason I used UNC paths is so I can use the same MTSA config (config.xml, moviedata.xml, posters, and trailers) on my SageTV Client running on another PC. This lets me execute MTSA on the server but allow both the server and the other PC client to access the data, posters, and trailers through a common UNC pathname.

I believe this was a limitation in earlier MTSA versions. Do you still need MTSA and it's folders installed on the client when MTSA is running on the server?

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

I believe this was a limitation in earlier MTSA versions. Do you still need MTSA and it's folders installed on the client when MTSA is running on the server?

I've got MTSA installed only on the server, and nothing (other than the STVi) installed on the client. There is something screwed up with the Load Config File in the Configure area of the MovieTimes STVi where the file dialog popup doesn't display properly. For the PC clients, I set these properties manually in the SageClient.properties file:

aperry/MtsaConfigFile=\\\\dvr-server\\Movies\\movieshowtimes\\config.xml
aperry/MtsaExecutable=\\\\dvr-server\\Movies\\movieshowtimes\\mtsa.exe

[pjpjpjpj]

On edit: I believe the thing that was hanging MTSA was "download extra info from IMDB" being "True". I was getting to the "Getting movie details" in the log and it was stopping (if I remember correctly, it was sticking on Star Trek). Perhaps that file is just huge, and it was still DL'ing after a long time, but it appeared frozen, so I quit MTSA. Then I changed it to "False", and re-ran MTSA.exe. Everything ran fine, except no trailers (the temp files appeared and then disappeared, but no trailers). So, like thomaszoo, I noticed that I did not have the "<TrailerDownload>" line in my config file. I added it, re-ran, and now I am watching trailers fill up. (BTW, how did I get some trailers before, without that line?)

However.... It failed to find a trailer for "Angels & Demons" (first movie attempted). Thoughts on why?

"Dance Flick" (second alphabetically) loaded at HD1080 - all 177MB of it - and "Drag me to hell" is currently downloading. Crossing my fingers, and going to bed....

On edit #2: As of this morning, I have 18 trailers (HD1080) and 20 posters (two of the movies were "IMAX Experience" versions of the originals, so I really have all the trailers). And I noticed that the "Angels & Demons" trailer did download later, even though (as above) it originally had failed to load. THANKS AGAIN to everyone for their advice!!!

[thomaszoo]

Ran into another small issue in that my second HD extender wouldn't go past the Load Config File screen. A look at the clients properties files for each extender showed that the second one did not have the aperry lines. Copy, paste and restarted Sage fixed that one. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the trailers.

Now if I could only get the English version of the Star Trek trailer (I guess I could download it manually?).

Wayne

[ToonGal]

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[Nephilim]

MTSA Updated.

Download here

Bye,
Nephilim

[Skirge01]

Nephilim,

Thanks for popping over here to let us know! Very much appreciated! I'll install it tonight. Does this fix the issue with getting the "Up" trailer and poster? I'm getting real sick of Seth Rogan's face appearing when I see Up.

[Nephilim]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Nephilim,

Thanks for popping over here to let us know! Very much appreciated! I'll install it tonight. Does this fix the issue with getting the "Up" trailer and poster? I'm getting real sick of Seth Rogan's face appearing when I see Up.

Maybe... Anyway, please, post your location.xml and config.xml file....

Bye,
Nephilim

[Skirge01]

Yep... working great now. Up downloaded just fine, as did standard posters for the IMAX Star Trek and Night at the Museum 2 showings, which makes sense, since there aren't actual IMAX posters.

As requested, here are my location and config files. Note that the config file was created by myself based on the new switches as I understood them to be, along with text instructions, based on the original MTSA. If I'm missing anything or my instructions are incorrect, let me know and I'll make the necessary changes.