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Which bugs in SageMC in particular?
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What I am saying is that the lack of a "modern looking" UI, rightly or wrongly, DOES make a big different for first impressions. Of course once you "look under the hood" Sage compares very well in terms of functionality, flexibility and reliability. The issue is getting people to take notice and invest the time in getting to know SageTV.
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BTW, on the extender front. At CES this year Toshiba announced MC extenders built into their new lineup of TVs. So you won't even need the XBoxes (after acquiring the next generation of TVs.)
On a side note Samsung was showing off this strange widget thing where you could download Konfabulator widgets to display on your TV. That could be very, very cool, or a popup ad nightmare. |
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Windows 7 Media Center will look great. It will also have a few things people have been clamoring for (I won't say what yet
![]() That being said, I'm sure Windows 7 Media Center will do just fine and have plenty of users satisfied with what they have. Those widgets on TVs were a very big thing at CES this year and all but one manufacturer used the Yahoo widget system. Guess who worked on the team that did that? Yep it was the original developer for the "old" Meedio. For me, I'd really prefer not to have widgets on my TV, but I haven't seen it in person so I guess I could change my mind on that. |
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I still have a DMA2100 sitting around here, so hopefully they'll still work with Win7. I believe MyMovies prodides this functionality to extenders. I'm not 100% certain, but it's worth looking into.
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Last edited by stanger89; 01-13-2009 at 09:28 AM. |
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That is spooky! For me it's client/server, WHS integration and DRM. I would have thought that when MS acquired...ah crap, I can't remember the name of the app/company, but they provided Orb-like functionality to MCE; a web based interface to media center for remote connectivity...anyway, when they bought whoever, I would have thought that was the sign that we were finally going to be getting softsled. Alas, no chance. WHS integration? Why in the world should one division within MS work with another one to provide a feature that its customers would use? That's just crazy talk right there! DRM? Who knows...maybe they'll loosen up.
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I really wonder about WHS integration as well. I was pointing about some issues on the MS WHS forums and the stock response is - you should be able to do everything with WHS using the Console - you should have no need to ever attach a KVM or Remote Desktop into the WHS PC. But then how does one edit sage.properties or install hardware like an HD-PVR, firewire devices, Sage add-ins etc. or even do initial config that would require the Sage UI to be running?
If this is the mindset that MS has then I don't see them moving to the WHS as TV tuner server model.
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More reviews: "More than just a DVR (digital video recorder), SageTV is a software app that provides an intuitive interface..." "The menu system is pretty self-explanatory." "Attractive, user-friendly interface; program controls TV , photos, music, and video; affordable, available in a number of different bundles." |
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Basically, it needs a facelift.
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As I said, that's your subjective opinion (and why SageMC exists) but not everyone agrees with that. It might very well *get* a facelift in v7 (or later) but for many users it doesn't "need" one.
I think Sage could cut down on the endless debate over the UI if they'd just say if v7 will be getting a new UI...or not. Last edited by S_M_E; 01-13-2009 at 11:44 AM. |
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![]() Why are dozens of threads and posts whining about the stock UI OK but posts that don't agree with that bad? Whys does it have to be one sided? Why are you afraid of dissent? Last edited by S_M_E; 01-13-2009 at 12:25 PM. |
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When I say SageMC should be a first class citizen that doesn't mean even changing the default UI. Ship SageMC with the product and have five or six prebuilt themes. Once of them can be standard Sage UI, one like centerstage, one like VMC, on like the Dish network DVR UI, one like Tivo, etc.
Make it really easy for people to switch over and choose what they like without a huge new learning curve. |
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btl.
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Again, why are dozens of threads and posts that whine about the stock UI OK but not posts that don't agree? If I'm only supposed to post my opinion once, what about all of the others that constantly whine about the stock UI? Why the double standard? |
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If you had only posted your opinion just once, we would not be having this conversation.
I'd have the same comments if someone was constantly repeating the same observations about the lameness of the Stock UI into multiple threads as well. There is no double standard. btl.
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