Suspend and resume with SageTV

[jcato]

Originally Posted by sudipto

Matt - that's awesome ! I am sooo glad you decided to continue working on it. After installing Sage 2.1 I had to stop using SageWake since I wasn't sure if the SageTV power management will conflict with SageWake ... but I would love to contune using SageWake since it seems to be more feature rich.

So, does the current SageWake work with 2.1? I'd like to upgrade so I can start using the MediaMVP client, but I don't want to give up power management that is working so well.

[sudipto]

Originally Posted by jcato

So, does the current SageWake work with 2.1? I'd like to upgrade so I can start using the MediaMVP client, but I don't want to give up power management that is working so well.

Well, I am not sure ! That's why I asked the question if anyone knew how to ask Sage NOT to use its own power management, so that I can continue to use SageWake for that purpose.

Since I didn't hear back anything from anyone soon, I went ahead anyway and re-enabled SageWake with SageTV v2.1 last night. I have SageWake setup to wake my machine 2 minutes prior to any recording; so I figured even if SageTV is doing power management, it probably won't even realize that the machine was asleep, since SageWake will wake it up in advance.

This is all hypothesis at this point The real proof will be to check this evening and see if Sage recorded everything that it was supposed to since last night

I would still like to get an answer to controlling power management in Sage 2.1 though.

[mls]

I believe as long as you don't run 2.1 as a service the rest of the power management still would be the same as with 2.0

[sudipto]

Originally Posted by mls

I believe as long as you don't run 2.1 as a service the rest of the power management still would be the same as with 2.0

SageTV 2.0 did not have any power management at all AFAIK.

So are you saying that SageTV 2.1 only does power management when run as a service ?

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by sudipto

So are you saying that SageTV 2.1 only does power management when run as a service ?

Whether it is run in service mode or not should make no difference. Also, I don't think there is any way to disable the built-in PM support. If I get further details about it, I'll let you know, either here or in the manual details thread.

- Andy

[sudipto]

Thanks Andy ! Do you know the details of the current Sage built-in PM policy ? Specifically, I am interested in knowing whether Sage wakes up the PC a little in advance of the start of recording, or right on time.

[Opus4]

What I know is on pp. 23-24 of the v2.1 manual. I have to see if there are more details, and what exactly the power_management_* properties do, if they are used.

- Andy

[Opus4]

Just so you don't miss it, I posted more info on those PM properties here.

- Andy

[sudipto]

Thanks Andy ! I need to play with the "power_management_wakeup_preroll" property a little bit.

[Beefcake550]

Maybe someone can explain something to me.

I seem to be having a problem where I think that I shouldbe able to put my HTPC in Standby, but sagewake isn't letting it.

Situation....I am watching a show that's not was not set to record (as in favorite or manual). So, I close SageTV (not put it in sleep mode) and try to suspend the PC, but no go. I check the sagewake.log and it shows that it will not let the PC sleep since it thinks the current show I was watching should not let it. Yet, the description in the text file says it's not a favorite or manual recording.

My command line for sagewake is:

"C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\SageWake" -noir --terminate="SageApp" --execute="C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\SageTV.exe" --logfile="C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\SageWake.log"

This to me means (a) don't wake up for IRs, (b) terminate SageApp on standby, (c) execute SageTV.exe on wakup, and (d) create a log file SageWake.log.

Am I missing something? Should I be doing something different? Please advise.

I am looking forward to the next release of this code. Having the ability to tell it to sleep after a current recording will save my butt.

-Beef

[jbuszkie]

Originally Posted by Beefcake550

Maybe someone can explain something to me.

I seem to be having a problem where I think that I shouldbe able to put my HTPC in Standby, but sagewake isn't letting it.

Situation....I am watching a show that's not was not set to record (as in favorite or manual). So, I close SageTV (not put it in sleep mode) and try to suspend the PC, but no go. I check the sagewake.log and it shows that it will not let the PC sleep since it thinks the current show I was watching should not let it. Yet, the description in the text file says it's not a favorite or manual recording.

I would put sage to sleep first. This should tell sagewake that it's not recording anything anymore. If you just kill sage it might not update the schedule.txt file. When you put sage to sleep it will "close" the file. Sagewake might just think that it is recording because the schedule file might still say that's it's still recording. I'd check the shedule.txt file to see what it says.

I am looking forward to the next release of this code. Having the ability to tell it to sleep after a current recording will save my butt.

-Beef

I'm glad someone else wants this feature too. Looking forward to the next release!

Jim

[Beefcake550]

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the tip.. I'll give that a shot. Perhaps I also just need to give sage some time to update the file as well.

BTW - It's Brian (think Softball).

-Beef

[Opus4]

Doesn't this program use two dashes in front of parameters? There is only one listed above for "-noir".

- Andy

[mwhitlock]

**NOTICE**: This is PRE-RELEASE ALPHA software. It may (and probably does) contain bugs which would prevent its proper operation. Use only for testing purposes and at your own risk.

• Rewrote most of the code from scratch, may contain bugs
• Added warning dialog before resuspend
• Added option to use hibernation rather than suspension
• More detailed and better organized log output

This version is nowhere near complete, but it is in working condition at the moment afaik. There will still be many more features added to it.

I am leaving the old version posted since it is stable and this one probably isn't.

EDIT: See below for latest version.

[sudipto]

Thanks Matt for contunig to make this excellent program even better

[Beefcake550]

Opus4 -

Dang....I think you may be onto something. I'm going to give that a shot. I'm at work right now, but as soon as I get home, I'll check into it. Thanks for the keen eye.

MWhitlock -

Nice.....I'll check into the program after thanksgiving. I'm trying to get this HTPC setup nailed down before the family comes down to visit. I plan to "WOW" them with it on Thursday/Friday.

-Beef

[Beefcake550]

Opus4 - I just downloaded SageWake at work and checked the readme file. Sure enough, you are right and there should be '--noir' isntead of '-noir'. Hopefully, this will solve the problem and life will be good.

The ultimate thing is that if I could get my HD program (Fusion HDTV software) to create a schedule.txt file. I could right something in Perl that "merges" them together, and then SageWake could be used to wake up the PC for SD and HD programs.

[Beefcake550]

One more quickie:

I have the computer setup so that users dont have to enter a username/password when the computer boots up. Unfortunately, when the PC comes back from standby, I can't get it to just come to the desktop, I still have to click on the user icon. There is only one user for the system beside Admin, so I was wondering if anyone knew how to get around this annoyance.

-Beef

[jbuszkie]

Go into control panel and select power options. In the advanced tab is a button to the says "prompt for password when computer resumes from standby" Uncheck it and you'll be fine.

JB

[jbuszkie]

Originally Posted by Beefcake550

Opus4 - I just downloaded SageWake at work and checked the readme file. Sure enough, you are right and there should be '--noir' isntead of '-noir'. Hopefully, this will solve the problem and life will be good.

If the noir thing wasn't being seen by sagewake then it's possible that sagewake won't let your machine go to sleep
because there's some IR that sagewake thinks is recording.
That's most likely your problem! I didn't even look at your command line! I assumed you had it right! Silly me!


Do you actually have the fusion working in HD with ACPI? I have to have all that disabled to get a studder-free HD picture. Maybe your F3 is better than my F2

JB