Suspend and resume with SageTV

[Alex0230]

Thanks....I never knew what those VS6 tools ever did...

You're right about killing the command line program....lol, I just saw that even some of my virus software is using the consolewindowclass for that.

Here's something I noticed, all my VB6 apps are going in to the same CabinentWClass....that would not be cool for SageWake. But that's off topic...

I don't think I have too much to worry about though as long as my batch file can finish and the system can still go in to standby/hibernate....

[gplasky]

FYI. I think if you're running Girder you can use it to determine windows and class names by using the target button and dragging the target to the open application.

Gerry

[mwhitlock]

Alex, you are correct. There is no way that I know of to get a Visual Basic form to use a different window class name.

SageApp and RecorderApp are the window class names of the hidden application windows that SageTV and SageRecorder (respectively) create to handle application-wide system messages.

Would it benefit anyone if SageWake were also able to close windows based on their window title?

[jphhughes]

I downloaded Sagewage 1.2.2.1 and when I try and unzip it says its password protected.

[mwhitlock]

Originally posted by jphhughes
I downloaded Sagewage 1.2.2.1 and when I try and unzip it says its password protected.

Wow, check your system for viruses. I just downloaded it right from the forum, opened it, and unzipped it. No problems.

[jphhughes]

Just for information : I took your advise and did a scan for viruses with Norton's and it did not find anything. I then downloaded 1.2.2.1 again but this time instead of unzipping into the SageTV directory to over right the old files, I copied it to a different folder and then copied Sagewake to the SageTV directory and did not get the Password request. Is their any significance to this , not really , its just another one of those pesky things that adds to the frustration of trying to get all this stuff to work together. Thanks

[mwhitlock]

Maybe it has something to do with the program you're using to unzip it. Note that you won't be able to replace SageWake.exe in your SageTV folder if it is currently running. Check your Task Manager process list.

[Todd33]

If you put SageWake.exe in the same folder as the schedule file and call the schedule file schedule.txt, you don't need to specify --schedfile on the command line.

I am just missing how you turn the dump on. I looked in the SageTB install directory and see nothing. I see nothing in the setup. What am I missing? Thanks.

[jptaz]

Todd33,

You need to edit the sageTV.properties file. There is a setting called scheduler_export_file. If you set this <sageWake.exe Path>\schedule.txt everything should work.

John

[mwhitlock]

• Safely encode show names in log file with XML special character entities

I had a show come up in my log that had an ampersand in its name, and IE freaked out when trying to display the XML file, so I tweaked SageWake to safely encode show names using XML special character entities.

EDIT: See below for latest version.

[jphhughes]

A program did not record and in checking the Schedule file I was suprised to see a great many programs scheduled (or at least in the file) that I had not actually scheduled for recording. I'm talking Sun Mon Tue etc.. Currently when I record a program I do this manually from the tv guide. As far as I know I am not using intellegent recording. I would have thought that the schedule file would only contain info on programs to be scheduled .

I deleted the scheule file and restarted SaveTV. The file was recreated by SageTV as expected but it still had the many schedule recordings in it that I did not actually schedule.

So anybody know what going on here? thanks

[mwhitlock]

SageTV always schedules Intelligent Recordings regardless of whether you have it set to actually record them. This is reflected in its schedule dump file. Any programs in the schedule that have "false" for both "ManualRecord" and "Favorite" are Intelligent Recordings and will only be actually recorded if you have Intelligent Recording enabled in SageTV. Hope this clears up some confusion for you.

[jphhughes]

Ok I see what your saying . I see all of the recordings have a false label except one which I actually scheduled has a true label.

I was sure I had schedule a program torecord at 8:30am today and I just happened to be near the Pc when in fact it came out of Standby at which point I assumed everything was ok and being recorded. However later when I checked it had not been recorded. That's when I check the Schedule file. Thanks for the additional help.

[Scriber]

I’m now seeing a bit of a problem – I’ve confirmed that sagewake is not permitting the system to enter standby nor hibernation (automatically or manually) after it wakes the PC for a recording (which it does perfectly I might add ). To fix I have to stop sagewake then delete the schedule.txt file (can’t delete the file if sagewake is running) then stop/restart sage (to create a new schedule.txt file). After this sagewake permits the system to enter standby/hibernation normally. I do have another recording scheduled but its over 5 hours away. Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas?

[Scriber]

Originally posted by jphhughes
I was sure I had schedule a program torecord at 8:30am today and I just happened to be near the Pc when in fact it came out of Standby at which point I assumed everything was ok and being recorded. However later when I checked it had not been recorded. That's when I check the Schedule file. Thanks for the additional help.

Not necessarily related but I thought the same thing this AM until I restarted sage and bingo -- recordings from when I was out-of-town were added to the sagerecordings (no I hadn't checked the drive contents). I'm sure its a bug in .14.

[Todd33]

One more question, not that I have everything configured.

Do you manually put the computer into sleep mode or let it go to sleep after a certain amount of time? If automatically, what is considered "inactivity", can SageTV be running, but not IR commands have been given in a while? What's to to stop putting the computer into sleep if you are just watching TV? Sorry, I'm a bit clueless with power down features, I've never used them.

[mwhitlock]

Originally posted by Scriber
I’m now seeing a bit of a problem – I’ve confirmed that sagewake is not permitting the system to enter standby nor hibernation (automatically or manually) after it wakes the PC for a recording (which it does perfectly I might add ). To fix I have to stop sagewake then delete the schedule.txt file (can’t delete the file if sagewake is running) then stop/restart sage (to create a new schedule.txt file). After this sagewake permits the system to enter standby/hibernation normally. I do have another recording scheduled but its over 5 hours away. Anyone else seeing this? Any ideas?

Scriber,
SageWake does not allow the system to go into standby or hibernate while SageTV is presently recording. If you're not using Intelligent Recording, you should specify --noir on the command line to SageWake to have it ignore Intelligent Recordings in the schedule file. Otherwise, SageWake will think SageTV is recording all those shows and won't let the system sleep while they're showing.

Originally posted by Todd33
One more question, not that I have everything configured.

Do you manually put the computer into sleep mode or let it go to sleep after a certain amount of time? If automatically, what is considered "inactivity", can SageTV be running, but not IR commands have been given in a while? What's to to stop putting the computer into sleep if you are just watching TV? Sorry, I'm a bit clueless with power down features, I've never used them.

Todd,
I do both. When I know I'll be gone for a while, I hit the Sleep button on my keyboard. If SageTV is recording something at the time, then fine, my system won't go to sleep right then because SageWake will stop it. I have my standby timeout set to two hours, primarily because I use this PC for work too and I don't want it going to sleep if I leave it for a short while during the day. After two hours of no Sage recordings and no user interaction, my computer goes into standby correctly.

To answer your second question, evidently there is some variety in what computers consider "inactivity." For some people on this board, just hard disk activity is enough to reset the standby idle timer. For me, the only things that reset it are mouse and keyboard input.

If you're watching Live TV, Sage will make an entry in its schedule file for the show you're currently watching (since it's recording it too), and this will cause SageWake to prevent the system from sleeping. The only time you might run into trouble where the standby idle timer would time out while you're watching TV would be if you're watching previously recorded shows and Sage is not recording anything at the present moment. I think if you set the SageTV preference (in the preferences file) to disable screen saver and power management while Sage is active, that should prevent the system from automatically entering standby as long as you have SageTV open. Note that at present there are issues with this option not re-enabling power management when Sage is put into sleep mode, but hopefully that bug will be worked out soon.

Hope this helps!

[Scriber]

Originally posted by mwhitlock
Scriber,
SageWake does not allow the system to go into standby or hibernate while SageTV is presently recording. If you're not using Intelligent Recording, you should specify --noir on the command line to SageWake to have it ignore Intelligent Recordings in the schedule file. Otherwise, SageWake will think SageTV is recording all those shows and won't let the system sleep while they're showing.

Right, my commmand line is:

"C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\SageWake.exe" --noir --leadtime=360 --schedfile=schedule.txt

so this should work....

I will continue to troubleshoot.

[Todd33]

I gave up on S3, apparently it's not really designed for desktop computers and doesn't work often. I can get it to sleep once, but once back awake the NIC has no IP and the computer won't sleep again until I reboot. This is kind of disappointing in 2004 w/ all new parts. I will have to settle with the HTPC on 24/7, fan noise and all. I'm hoping hard drive power down with S1 at least works, but it's hard to tell.

Thanks for the help, I'm still using SageWake, maybe it's still useful for waking up the HD.

[mwhitlock]

Todd,

That's really a shame to hear that you're having so much trouble with it. Is your NIC integrated on your motherboard? Is there perhaps a new driver you could get for it that would fix the issues you're having? My desktop PC power manages quite well.