Editing Views

[HokiePerogi]

Originally Posted by stuckless

We don't have an option to exclude the entire contents of another view. That would be interesting... but I'd think that we'd run into performance issues in trying to create the view.

Okay. No problem. I'll have to change my paradigm a bit with special interest imports and filter them out based on hand-added meta-data instead of by path. I guess I could also probably filter them out with a regex filepath filter too.


Thanks for the help. I guess it's true when they say there's many ways to skin a cat.

[wrems]

You could also set up some custom genre tags to tag the portion you want/don't want. Genre tags can be anything and BMT can add/remove them lightning fast to entire subsets of your collection. The maintenance would be to remember to add the tag probably manually to new additions to your collection moving forward.

Maybe if Sean is planning on doing some PQL work in the near future he could add a way to dynamically set genres with PQL:

set Genre = '+Kids' where Genre contains 'Family' or Genre contains 'Animation' or Rated='G'

[HokiePerogi]

Originally Posted by wrems

Genre tags can be anything and BMT can add/remove them lightning fast to entire subsets of your collection.

How exactly is this accomplished today through BMT?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by HokiePerogi

Okay. No problem. I'll have to change my paradigm a bit with special interest imports and filter them out based on hand-added meta-data instead of by path. I guess I could also probably filter them out with a regex filepath filter too.


Thanks for the help. I guess it's true when they say there's many ways to skin a cat.

That's probably best. And yeah, with Phoenix vfs, that last statement will definately be true

[wrems]

In the batch updater. You can +Genre or -Genre.

So if you used your PQL statement from one of your vfs' in the search field you'd have a subset of data that you could apply a specific entry for. When you're looking at a subset in BMT you'll have an option to enter the batch updater somewhere around the upper right corner. Find the genre field there, it will be blank. If you just want 1 tag and blow out the existing then just enter your genre. If you want to append a genre to the existing set of genres use +Genre, and likewise to remove a genre use -Genre.

HTH

[HokiePerogi]

Originally Posted by wrems

In the batch updater. You can +Genre or -Genre.

So if you used your PQL statement from one of your vfs' in the search field you'd have a subset of data that you could apply a specific entry for. When you're looking at a subset in BMT you'll have an option to enter the batch updater somewhere around the upper right corner. Find the genre field there, it will be blank. If you just want 1 tag and blow out the existing then just enter your genre. If you want to append a genre to the existing set of genres use +Genre, and likewise to remove a genre use -Genre.

HTH

Fancy! Thanks


Next question: is there a sort by title that ignores "The" when sorting?

[wrems]

I have some VFS's that I've created in this thread:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55716

post 16 gives the option you're looking for to ignore The and An in titles.

[HokiePerogi]

Originally Posted by wrems

I have some VFS's that I've created in this thread:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55716

post 16 gives the option you're looking for to ignore The and An in titles.

Thanks wrems!

So I used the following within my sort element to accomplish this:

<option name="ignore-all" value="true" />

I don't see this documented in the VFS Documentation page of the Google Code project: http://code.google.com/p/sagephoenix...SDocumentation

[wrems]

It's fairly new and I suspect the last thing on their minds if updating the docs.

[briands]

OK... played a little bit with this, but have 2 questions...
How can I change the default sorting of one of the standard views?

I'd like ALL TV Shows to sort by default on Title - whenever I change it w/ the option drop down, it does not stick

How can I add one of the custom fragment views onto the menu?

Apologize if these have been answered, but I have not seen them as I tried to catch up after being out of touch for a week.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by briands

OK... played a little bit with this, but have 2 questions...
How can I change the default sorting of one of the standard views?

I'd like ALL TV Shows to sort by default on Title - whenever I change it w/ the option drop down, it does not stick

How can I add one of the custom fragment views onto the menu?

Apologize if these have been answered, but I have not seen them as I tried to catch up after being out of touch for a week.

We don't have stickiness enabled yet for the view management, but it's coming.

As for changing any default view, the answer is really to copy that <view> definition to a new file in your userdata area, and then make any nessary changes.

As for menu fragments to launch a view from a given location, there are some examples of that in the editing menus sticky (i think)

[bialio]

There's a setting in the Universal Media Browser options called "View presentation customization".

Set this to 'Sticky' and it will remember your sort.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by bialio

There's a setting in the Universal Media Browser options called "View presentation customization".

Set this to 'Sticky' and it will remember your sort.

See how little I know about Phoenix

[briands]

Originally Posted by bialio

There's a setting in the Universal Media Browser options called "View presentation customization".

Set this to 'Sticky' and it will remember your sort.

Thanks. That made it stick...

Now I notice that the filter option does not seem to work in the options box.

[bialio]

Yep. Filters are just listed at the moment. They'll work eventually.

btl.

[eopian]

Thank you to everybody involved in the Phoenix project, everything is phenomenal!

I have a question regarding editing views. I'm trying to exclude workout videos from showing up everywhere else vidoes show up, then I want to create a view under videos just for workout videos (for my wife). Most noteably I want to exclude them from the 'Movie Flow' and from the 'New Movies'.

I created copied this from the vfs folder and created a new file and put it into the user data/vfs folder. I'm getting this error:

Error in VFS File: .\userdata\Phoenix\vfs\excludeworkout.xml; The content of element type "view" must match "(option*,description?,tag*,source*,view-source*,filter?,presentation*)".

<!DOCTYPE vfs SYSTEM "vfs.dtd">
<vfs>
	<views>
		<view name="phoenix.view.primary.importedmovies" label="Imported Movies" flat="true" visible="prop:server:phoenix/core/enableAdvancedViews">
			<description>Movies from all imported sources</description>
			<tag value="primary"/>
			<tag value="video" />
			<tag value="movie"/>
			<view-source name="phoenix.view.source.allimportedvideo"/>
			<!-- moviesonly removes imported TV and homevideos from this view -->
			<filter by="moviesonly"/>
			<filter by="moviesonly"/>
                        <filter by="genre" value="workout">
                             <option name="scope" value="exclude"/>
                        </filter>	
		</view>
	</views>
</vfs>

I'm thinking either I'm close or I need to start again from a different angle.

Thanks for your help!

[stuckless]

you can only have a single <filter> on a view. If you remove the 2 <filter by="moviesonly"/> elements, the view should validate.

[eopian]

Stuckless, thanks for your help. It doesn't throw any more errors. Unfortunately, it doesn't do what I wanted it to do. I guess its back to the drawing board.

Edit: I was editing the wrong view. I applied the filter code to the correct view and everything works! Thanks again for your help!

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by eopian

Stuckless, thanks for your help. It doesn't throw any more errors. Unfortunately, it doesn't do what I wanted it to do. I guess its back to the drawing board.

Edit: I was editing the wrong view. I applied the filter code to the correct view and everything works! Thanks again for your help!

Basically there is a limitation in the views in that you cannot have more than one <filter>. I'm looking into changing that, but for now, what you'd do is something like this...

1. Create a View that filters by your moviesonly
2. Create a second view that uses the first view as a view source and then filter that second view using the genre filter.

[wrems]

Alternatively, depending on how you have your import path's setup you could point a folder containing only the workout videos. That's how I do it. Then you could create the other views pointing to other import paths for your movies and such that avoids using/displaying the work out videos etc.

There are some example views that I and some others have put together as examples over here:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55716