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Yes and I would prepay at a discount of 50% to get the project going. | 28 | 28.28% | |
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Yeah, looking at it that way, an extender would be good in the soaking/readingn room . Otherwise, i'm in for all my clients!
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I was one of the 18 people who said they would pay for this capability. I'm sorry for saying this, but I changed my mind. I would rather wait for Playon's 720p HD support (which according to them should look very close to the original quality) and have HD200/HD300 capability than be limited to PC clients only. Plus, Im going to use playon anyway for non-sageTV clients in the future.
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I know you've already thought of this, but I thought it wouldnt hurt to ask anyway....
Is there any very clever way to strip DRM from the Netflix API for sageTV hardware extenders that would technically be considered legal or grey area; equivalent to an HDMI/DVI/VGA "extension cord" on a remote TV. Maybe, there's a circumstance/loophole that's not mentioned in the API documentation to allow this. Or, possibly do some kind of lossless/uncompressed redirecting of the already decoded API stream? I'm not sure how much bandwidth an HD 720 uncompressed stream would take; maybe a 1000basedt network can handle it (minus overhead)?
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http://www.playon.tv/forum/feedback/...support-needed Here is a post from PlayOn date March 27: Quote:
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Not sure if this is what you ask, but google is your friend. There is a way how to rip the Netflix feeds and save them as unrestricted video. I have never tried it since it looked pretty complicated just reading it, but apparently it is technically possible.
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My understanding is that it was for the pre-silverlight/playready Netflix streaming. Things changed dramatically after the move to playready.
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Yup and seeing as how now one to my knowledge has hacked playready (ie also cablecard's drm scheme). I don't see it happening.
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Edit: It's also not the "right thing to do" when we're talking about rented content, like Netflix. Last edited by brainbone; 06-06-2011 at 09:10 AM. |
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I just received the following response from Playon support this morning. Playon development seems to be moving pretty aggressively in other issues; and, based on their response, I think I can wait. We watch a lot of playon (Netflix/Amazon VOD) TV shows and movies on our extender; so, it looks like HD or not, this is the only solution for extenders. The video is tollerable; certainly better than some youtube videos end up watching anyway.
"Thank you for your interest! HD Streaming has been a very hot issue for many of our customers, and we are working on on a solution. However, as of right now we are still in the planning and initial testing stages and do not have anything that is ready for public testing or release yet. Unfortunately, we do not have a specific timeline for when this may be an upcoming feature at this time. Rest assured, though, that we are working on this and will continue to work on it because it has been such a popular request. Quote:
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Short answer: Not any time soon, especially if that server will be doing anything else at the time. |
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I'm guessing this will be optional "fast PC recommended" setting. I wonder what are the minimum CPU requirements for ffmpeg to do realtime 720p transcoding. That also makes sense why placeshifter doesnt have a 720p option either.
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The transcoding of 720p in realtime is less of a problem than ripping the rendered 720p video in realtime, in addition to the transcode. Unlike just decoding a 720p h264 stream, and then re-encoding it, you also have the added inconvenience, and very time sensitive operation, of screen grabbing and buffering the rendered 720p frame before the next frame is rendered right over it. AFAIK, this "screen grab" is not a very efficient operation. It also greatly limits the amount of time you have to complete the operation. Last edited by brainbone; 06-06-2011 at 11:31 AM. |
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On the encoding side, this sounds like it might be a great use of the Intel QuickSync encoder on the new Sandy Bridge chips. A quad-core first-gen Sandy Bridge chip is almost certainly fast enough too, but maybe a QuickSync encoder would be more reliable if a PlayOn server does other tasks too. I'm not sure how dual cores would do. Does anyone know if PlayOn already accesses HD video, but just converts? I'm pretty sure its set up to only go after SD video sources. I would think just going up to HD sources, but keeping SD encoding, would lead to a pretty big jump in quality without a huge increase in processing power. |
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Playon uses ffmpeg code; same as sageTV transcoder.
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Fluid full motion screen grabbing is difficult to do even in SD. Boxee (not Box) had trouble doing this without re-encoding, but instead just grabbing, rescaling and displaying -- and AFAIK, hasn't accomplished HD using this method. |
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So, do you mean PlayOn is using the faster MPEG4-ASP/xvid codec, versus H.264? I don't think ffmpeg necessarily means MPEG4-ASP instead of H.264.
That would probably make sense, since it doesn't particular matter what size the files are. But my understanding is that the MPEG4-ASP encoder in ffmpeg doesn't scale well across cores. So, if you really need something fast, it might be that fast settings for x264 on a quad-core CPU or QuickSync on a Sandy Bridge becomes a better option. Though, probably not since you can't peg all four cores, but maybe. x264 actually becomes pretty fast if you use certain settings with it (which seems to be Handbrake's main reason for not looking to support CUDA or QuickSync encoders). |
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I didn't think the Boxee software did screen grabbing. I thought it just had a special browser that was careful how it placed the Flash or Silverlight object. I thought the reason HD, and even SD video, is hard on it is that in general HD video in Silverlight and Flash is pretty bad to a lack of decent hardware acceleration, and generally bad decoders and upscalers (Flash's upscaler seems to be particularly CPU intensive, if I remember correctly). |
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