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Not once you add a Digi+, FLIRC, etc to get it up to an HD300 experience.
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From that point virtually all of the hardware variability issues are eliminated. All one would have to do from there would make software-level tweaks as needed and be able to achieve smooth playback for AC-3 and DTS (passthrough) 1080p files at bitrates of 30Mbps or more. I also don't think the Pi is the only option for a relatively-easy client. I have a couple of Android STBs, Android tablets, a Fire TV Stick, and a Chromecast dongle, so I'll run with whatever works ... |
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Coincidentally, I was at a family birthday party yesterday, and a couple of us got to talking about TV, they'd recently "cut the cord" and were trying to figure out their TV setup. It started with antenna placement, but where the discussion ended up was basically with how to get TV (including live) to various TVs through the house. An "available" Sage, I think would be a perfect fit for them. And they're smart folks and I'm sure they could get a Pi to work, but personally I would not want to recommend something like that to them. On the other hand, Sage with a Roku app, I'd recommend that in a minute. Quote:
I think you'd have a lot better time convincing someone to buy a Roku than a Pi, unless they're a tinkerer. Frankly I think the Pi is way oversold, tinkerers love it, but it's basically a development kit, not an end user product. |
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I considered the Pi2 but decided my next toy project will be one of these: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...ute-stick.html Really waiting for a reputable vendor to offer them stateside. Supposed to be around $150 but have seen versions of them around for about $125. Runs Windows or Linux. Personally I would run Windows but there is no reason you could not create a Custom Linux distro with SageTV client much like Raspbmc. (Which I run on my current Pi) And...then run it on any Intel hardware.
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It also significantly helps if the client is something that people already have, or would otherwise be useful. A Pi isn't exactly expensive, but a Pi+microSD+power supply+flirc is still going to be ~$70. |
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I'm coming into the conversation kind of late, so maybe this has been discussed. Why not focus on IOS and Android apps that support Chromecasting? Is it a problem with media support? I know it supports AC3 passthrough, but I don't see DTS.
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Wouldn't using an android or similar be a drop in picture quality, I like playing back my blu Rays. What is quality like on chrome cast?
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I was like the people stanger89 is talking about, except in 2008. My wife said "if you can find a "Tivo-like" DVR solution for OTA, we'll cut the cord". I snooped around on the AVS forum and someone pointed me to SageTV because of the extenders, which took all the work (and required knowledge) out of having a server... not to mention the horsepower requirement. I had an old beater PC that had been my mother-in-law's, and used it as my original server, and it worked fine with 3 HD100s at TVs in the house, and two HDHRs fed from an attic antenna. Anyone could set that up. More and more of my friends and co-workers are talking about cutting the cord and face the same concerns that stanger talked about. I would love to be able to tell them "I have an easy solution for you". And as I posted several pages back in this thread, even my wife's soccer mom friends want SageTV when they see it at our house.
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Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such... Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM. Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic). Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each. |
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Second, Chromecast has its own set of problems. It doesn't support mpeg2, and even if it did, the wifi-only network interface would create problems. In my own testing, it seems to choke on blu-ray rips, and even high-bitrate encoded video. I'm not sure how much of that was wifi related and how much is limited by the video decoders. But, there does seem to be fairly significant interest in support for mobile apps and common streamers, like Roku. So, if this pans out, I would expect to see some work done on the on-the-fly transcoder. I'd hate to put up with a transcoder for my "normal" usage, since skipping through commercials might be moderately painful. |
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Imagine, HDHomerun tuners, NAS, and extenders - would be magic! Fraser
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I don't like Roku at all and I love my FireTV. I'm hoping an app can be made for it. Then I'll be able to watch everything - SageTV, Amazon, Sling, Netflix, etc from the same device.
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That's funny I hate fireTV's interface it's too amazon centric on the main screen |
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Same here! Love my Roku 3!
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Unless someone figures out how to enable mpeg2 decoding in Fire TV, you will be quite disappointed with it running a SageTV app unless you wish to envoke a seizure.
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If there's one thing we all learned when Sage v7 first hit the street - if not before that - it's that preference in UI is like preference in music or art. Everyone has their own opinion and you can't ever make everyone happy (which is why the customizable UIs are best).
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Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such... Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM. Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic). Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each. |
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Hardware devices are pretty limited, and outside of "app" based solutions like Roku, Android, iOS, I think require lots of device specific programming to get the most out of them (hardware SDKs, etc). I'd imagine a Docker container for unRAID would be pretty easy to set up. |
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Not sure if I am alone on this or not, but without the proper apps to work on popular STBs, I am less likely to move back.
I have very capable streamers already that do everything I want. Introducing yet another stb of some sort that pretty well serves 1 function for me live tv and dvr (already replicated via TabloTV) its not likely to move back fulltime. That being said, if sage have proper integration with everything else we use (Pandora, google Play Music, Amazon Instant, Netflix, SlingTV, etc.) then i personally would be more willing to jump back in with both feet. That being said I really want sage to live on and even if i don't use it fulltime in my house i will def still contribute and help. SageTV IMO is still the best PVR/DVR with the most complete set of PVR/DVR functionality I have ever seen or used |
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This is what I'm hoping for myself.
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