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Isn't that Google Chromecast, but the app has to support it.
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I wouldnt get my hopes to high on seeing a good SageTV implementation on Rokus, from what ive tried on the Roku SDK its more based on using their 'Standards' GUIs (thats why most of the apps/channel on it look almost the same). Its more like just to feed RSS/json to show icons, and on click it invokes a HTTP stream
From a developing point of view I see the Rokus a bit outdated and I think AndroidTV and/or AppleTV are far supperior on creating some better GUI interfaces (and on AndroidTV seems that at least the core drawing could be mostly just ported since Android is java based).
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To sort of echo what stuckless said: you'd be much better served spending a little more to get a quality device. The Nexus 7 2013 is still a great tablet which goes pretty cheap these days. For reference: Groupon had it brand new with the official case for $99 a few weeks ago.
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You'll find that Chromecast app support is pretty widespread on iOS, Android, and video players on the web. And when there isn't explicit support, Android devices can generally cast their on-screen content similar to Airplay. While the Chromecast extension for Chrome browser accomplishes the same for the web.
That said, explicit support in apps and on websites is better because the phone/tablet/PC simply acts as a remote while the Chromecast pulls the content down directly. The portable device isn't taxed by the playback and can even be turned off or go out of range of the Chromecast without interrupting playback. |
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I will likely get a Surface Pro4 for work soon so that should be an excellent SageTV tablet form factor, however the battery life isn't great. In terms of longer term Sage clients - I have 9 Sage extenders in use (plus a few spares). Two are HD300s and the rest are HD200s. If android boxes work better then I may move to them eventually but that will be expensive and I may phase that in over time.
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I broke down and bought a Shield. Nice unit, but finding the navigation tough with the controller or remote when trying to set everything up.
I got the Miniclient setup and connected. Got the UI switched over to Gemstone, but I also use ADM for menu configuration and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the options menu up on the main screen so I can import my ADM menu structure. On the HD300 with the remote, it's just the "Options" button. Any advice?
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In the next build (beta 7), because I'm not using the voice search (yet), then pressing the voice search button will also bring up options. I would recommend reviewing the Android Miniclient Discussion first post, to get a better sense of what the remote keypresses will do, since there are normal presses, long presses, and even presses that behave differently when video is playing, etc. http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62439
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My only hesitation with not moving right to the Shield from the Roku on my main TV has nothing to do with SageTV - it's the app selection. No WatchESPN app is a non-starter for me. Thanks for all your work on the Miniclient!
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Are there apps that you are missing on Android TV? Just curious, it's a real question. I'm assuming by "lack of apps" you've tried installing some but they weren't there ![]() Personally, there are very few apps that I tend use... Ted Talks, YouTube, Kodi, Plex, Netflix, Trailers, and now SageTV ![]() ![]() ![]()
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well, now that you put it that way.... 😜
now that your Sage app is up, if I needed another extender I'd look at this before a HDxxx model
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Truth be told, I'm surprised there are as many apps as there are. Google hasn't been pushing Android TV at all, as far as I can tell. |
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![]() I've done my share of ranting about google/android tv... I even wrote 2 apps that I refused to publish because of their stupid app publishing procedures... I recall them asking me for phone and tablet screen shots, in addition the TV ones, even though the apps I were releasing were actually NOT phone/tablet apps, nor would they even run on phone/tablet, but yet google was making me enter all kinds of phone/tablet info about it. They didn't seem concerned by complaints, so I deleted the apps, and until this MiniClient I hadn't written anything for AndroidTV (I;ve yet publish it in the store, so who knows if they've fixed anything, yet). My point, is that I find sometimes google can be be antagonistic towards developers... and so, maybe this is partly why devs are not jumping through hoops to actually product something. On it's own, I probably would not have bought a Shield TV. I did already own a Nexus player and I was pretty happy with that. But, for SageTV, the Shield runs it pretty well, and so my only recommendation when it comes to Shield, is that the SageTV experience is better than the other devices that I've tested it on.
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I too am Canadian, but I do get these services ![]() Prior to Christmas, I exclusively used SageTV - no streaming device. I had both a Bell TV and DishNetwork subscription - 3 Bell receivers and 2 DN all in one integrated Program Guide. I loved it, but given the Canadian dollar, my DN sub was becoming unaffordable. I was paying $100/month for my Bell sub and $220+ for my DN sub. So what I did was cancel the DN sub, add a few channels to my Bell sub, and add Rokus with SlingTV, Netflix, and Hulu accounts. My SlingTV account grants me access to WatchESPN, which is 10x better than the ESPN live channels when it comes to college sports. So all in all, I am saving ~$140/month, but getting more content, just less of it is now delivered through my SageTV setup. With better support from the content providers for Android TV, the Shield would be the perfect device for me as it would allow me to access my online content and my SageTV setup all from one device. However, I already own HD300s, so instead, I just toggle the input on my TV back and forth between the Roku and the HD300. Not much different really. I just have 3 remotes instead of one.
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There's extra weirdness, too. For example, for a long time Comcast cable TV customers couldn't use the HBO Go app on a Roku. Now they can, but they can't use it on an Android TV. There's no good reason why, except that Comcast insists on whitelisting what devices you can use. There's no way to log in to HBO Go on an Android TV if you're a Comcast customer. |
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Roku has been around for a long time, so, not surprising it has the mother load of apps. I think the Android TV devices are getting better and the UI (to me) is far nicer than Roku, so I have hopes that the apps will come... eventually.
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I hope you're right, though, and that things will be slowly better. The lack of an Amazon app, though, is just a pissing match between Google and Amazon. Amazon appears to be willing to create the app (I think there's already an app for AndroidTV-powered Sony TVs, and they're apparently creating a Philips one), but they won't create a general one. I really don't see how it is beneficial for Amazon to restrict their streaming app. They don't make much (if any) money on the devices themselves, and you can't buy their content if you can't use their app. I guess they might want UIs that encourage you to buy content from Amazon, rather than a different provider, but Android TV seems to be pretty agnostic about sources. Google Play doesn't seem to get much of a preference over other providers. |
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Yes Roku has "screen mirroring" I believe it is still in beta and it is buried in the setting menu to turn it on and then you can mirror pretty much the same way AirPlay does, BUT it does not work as well. Apple's AirPlay and then even Airparrot's "hack" of AirPlay work much better at this time, IMHO.
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