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Old 10-08-2016, 02:02 AM
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Hi Eddy

We run DVB-S2 here
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:14 AM
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Hi Eddy

We run DVB-S2 here
No worries, DVB-S and DVB-C are fully supported and functioning properly. At the moment is only with a couple of channels on DVB-T my very good beta tester reports having trouble with, but I do also run DVB-S exclusively (higher bitrate ), and I don't have an aerial so it is very difficult for me to perform any extensive testing.

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Old 10-08-2016, 07:42 AM
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Sounds good, looking forward to it also.
This commercials skipper solution will be included as part of the DVB Decrypter Plugin for the time being and the reason is because 80% of the current framework I've implemented already is required anyway. Moving forward I will consider to create a separate plugin for this, but that will require changes in the current STV code base and my main goal is to support existing STV installations and not necessarily just the open source version.

At the moment the commercials detection is done in real-time at the transport stream level after any decryption job required and before STV has the chance to demux the streams, this way I don't need to access the recording directories and the overall CPU extra load is barely noticeable.

Ideally this solution could be included in the STV core, but I suspect the road is still very long for that, will see

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Old 10-09-2016, 06:08 AM
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OK, I don't use the DVB Decrypter Plugin and using V9 as I'm using integrated schedules direct and the newer youtube plugin so as you say hopefully at some point it can be released as a separate plugin.

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Old 10-09-2016, 10:51 AM
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This commercials skipper solution will be included as part of the DVB Decrypter Plugin for the time being and the reason is because 80% of the current framework I've implemented already is required anyway. Moving forward I will consider to create a separate plugin for this, but that will require changes in the current STV code base and my main goal is to support existing STV installations and not necessarily just the open source version.

At the moment the commercials detection is done in real-time at the transport stream level after any decryption job required and before STV has the chance to demux the streams, this way I don't need to access the recording directories and the overall CPU extra load is barely noticeable.

Ideally this solution could be included in the STV core, but I suspect the road is still very long for that, will see

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If you put the commercial detection into a stand alone executable it will be easy for me to update the CommecialDetector plugin to support it.
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Old 10-31-2016, 11:52 AM
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This commercials skipper solution will be included as part of the DVB Decrypter Plugin for the time being
Hi Eddy
Is this true of the decrypter plugin today or are you still beta testing, I'm very interested in having a robust commercial detection system that doesn't generate a high CPU load.

Thanks for all your work

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Old 10-31-2016, 01:41 PM
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If you put the commercial detection into a stand alone executable it will be easy for me to update the CommecialDetector plugin to support it.
Thanks Tom, unfortunately this is not an option because it is designed to be a Windows DirecShow filter with a DVB compatible transport stream. As I said before I don't access the file system to read the recordings.

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Is this true of the decrypter plugin today or are you still beta testing, I'm very interested in having a robust commercial detection system that doesn't generate a high CPU load.
The algorithm is still under beta testing and will be supporting favourite and/or category filtering as well. The mechanism is very robust for DVB-S and DVB-C, unfortunately there are still some issues with DVB-T that I'm trying to address before public release and you're right the CPU load is very very low (it will easily run on a Intel, don-din-don-dan, Atom).

The development has slow down considerably due to a new contract, but the algorithm is there and just need fine tuning, Dean what do you think?

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Old 11-15-2016, 12:57 AM
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Hi Eddy

Sorry for the late reply to this.

I would say that it is ready to be released as is. Not had the time to test the latest version you sent. But will hopefully test it today.

Like you said there is an issue with DVB-T2 HD Channels due to the audio being AAC-HE.

As for CPU load I would say I have not noticed any increase at all.

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Old 11-15-2016, 02:38 AM
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Hi Eddy

Sorry for the late reply to this.

I would say that it is ready to be released as is. Not had the time to test the latest version you sent. But will hopefully test it today.

Like you said there is an issue with DVB-T2 HD Channels due to the audio being AAC-HE.

As for CPU load I would say I have not noticed any increase at all.

Dean
Hi Dean, I have reason to believe that the AAC issue has now been fixed . My test on some European satellites broadcasting AAC (unfortunately only 4K) did work properly now, but I will wait to test it thoroughly on DVB-T2.

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Old 06-02-2017, 10:37 AM
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Hi Eddy
I'm wondering if this project is still live?
I actually do OK with comskip (70% or so identification) but I would love to have something better with a lower CPU load.
I only use Freesat/DVB-S2 if that makes it easier.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:14 PM
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Hi Eddy
I'm wondering if this project is still live?
I actually do OK with comskip (70% or so identification) but I would love to have something better with a lower CPU load.
I only use Freesat/DVB-S2 if that makes it easier.
Cheers
Eric
Hi Eric,

this Commercial Skipper solution is integral part of the DVBDCC plugin and has never been officially released, only as a private build for some beta testers whom reported a 99% detection rate.

Saying that the DVBDCC project has definitively reached its maturity as it couldn't grow any more as it stands, so I've been working on a completely new project which should address most of the DVBDCC limitations
  • Windows DLL 32/64
  • Linux shared library 32/64
  • DVB and ATSC
  • Separate Decryption and Commercial Skipper (you might be interested in one, but not both)
  • More SoftCAM support not just OSCAM
  • ...
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