DVB-S/T/C Support

[taylormadearmy]

Well I did this and got the following response back:

Sage has decided to stop giving that protocol away. It's no longer supported.

Hmm - What does this meam for this DVB support? Is it ok as its already done or is it going to be hard to maintain it?

I was about to buy SageTV - and would love clarification before I do.

[Cayars]

I don't know. But, this is kind of disturbing to me. What bothers me is that anything already built for network encoding could get broken very easily with a new SageTV release. All they would have to do is release a new SageTV and SageRecorder with total encryption or something and we're skrewed all together.

I WAS planning on adding the protocol to a capture tool I wrote that would have allowed capturing from just about any "standard" windows capture/tuner card. This would have allowed somebody to use an All-In-Wonder, a web cam, firewire capture and of course DV sources.

Example, need an extra capture board for the night? Plug your extra Set Top box into your DV camers and you're set. I've got a bunch of software encoders that could have been put online strictly for capture purposes and they would have worked just fine in this capacity.

Oh well.

Carlo

[taylormadearmy]

I must say this is a great forum - thanks for all your help guys.

A few more questions..

1. Is there likely to be Official support for DVB? I'd love to know b4 I part with my money if this DVB support will a) become official, or b) disappear as the server protocol becomes unsupported. I have tried all the competitors products - and this really seems to be the best solution at the moment.. If ony it stays that way..

2. fredpery - Do you have any trouble with some shows being the wrong aspect ratio - or even just some parts within shows. The News is a prime example of this - often when they go to footage away from the main news the aspect ratio is all wrong - also Channel 5 oftern seems to be a prime example of this. What MPEG2 decoder are you using?

3. Would SDVBRecorder work with multiple PCI DVB cards? Also how about USB - I have a DEC-2000T usb box (basically another Hauppage marked Technotrend Unit).

[Ayla]

1. Is there likely to be Official support for DVB? I'd love to know b4 I part with my money if this DVB support will a) become official, or b) disappear as the server protocol becomes unsupported. I have tried all the competitors products - and this really seems to be the best solution at the moment.. If ony it stays that way..

I would like to know this too before I buy SageTV.

Maybe someone from Sage could answer?

[Ayla]

*bump*

Sage?

[taylormadearmy]

Oh - also - how about recording all the channels on a Mux when a programme on that mux is being recorded.

Also - any news about offical DVB support?

Also.. Anyone got any ideas how I can fix my problems with some broadcast which seem to have strange aspect ratios?

Thanks!!

[Ayla]

*bump*

[taylormadearmy]

I have been having lockups whilst changing channels with the current beta (2.0.14)

anyone else seeing these problems (is anyone else even using the DVB stuff at the moment..??)

Thanks!!
K

[insomniac]

Agreed..I think its fair to expect an answer whether or not DVB support is in sage's future and where it is presently.

In my opinion, this has been dropped like a hot rock, and I just would like to know why.

DVB is future king......

I.

[AndersNolberger]

First so that everybody knows, I am not connected to Frey Technologies in any way. My DVB server is only a hobby project of mine.

I am also very interested in the future of the protocol I am using right now. It would be nice if someone from Frey would clarify what it means that "Sage has decided to stop giving that protocol away. It's no longer supported." Will the protocol be protected so that I cant use it for my server? Or does it just means that Frey wont answer any queations about it? (And will there be official support for DVB?)

As for the lockups in the DVB server. I think that my current version works better. I will make it available soon, there are some more things I want to include first.

SDVBCoreRecorder is based on DVBCore.dll and I dont think that it will work with more than 1 card. The recorder only supports one. But you could have several computers with a card in each.

(The aspect ratio is possible to choose in the settings and you can map shortcut buttons to the aspects you use the most. Do a search in the forum for more information.)

[Ayla]

Hey Anders

It is great that you're still working on DVB support!

Are you able to grab the EPG info from the cable signal with your program?
It would be a lot smarter that using the XML tools available.

I will get my DVB-C card up and running in a few weeks and are looking forward to using your plugin.

Keep up the good work Anders!

PS: Now we just need Sage to step in and answer these simple questions.

[Ayla]

I just read on the DVBCore homepage that it supports "EPG Info gathering" so it should be possible to implement in SDVBCoreRecorder?

MyTheater supports multiple DVB cards, so I would think DVBCore does that too.

[taylormadearmy]

Hi Anders

Thanks for the work you are putting in - its certainly appreciated! It really woul be a shame id Frey shut the door on this protocol and leave us out in the cold.

I am aware of the ability to change aspect ratios - however there seem to be some aspect ratio's in some shows that often are diplayed incorrecrtly what ever aspect ratio I choose . If I choose 'fill' for example, the picture appreads ''Tall and Thin".

Has no one else seen this..?

[taylormadearmy]

Attached is a screenshot of an example of the problem I have with certain shows (usually on channel 5) having a funny aspect ratio.

This is it set in 16x9 mode.



This is it set in FILL mode. (4x3 look the same.)



Anyone seen this or got any ideas how to fix it?
Thanks!

[Ayla]

You should make a seperate thread for that question taylormadearmy.

So this thread can be about the DVB support.

[taylormadearmy]

You should make a seperate thread for that question taylormadearmy

I believe this is a DVB issue as I only have ever seen this using DVB - and then only on certain channels with certain broadcasts.

I have used Showshifter DVB - they had this issue but added something they call dynamic Aspect Ratio Manager (dARM) to fix it.

[Ayla]

*bump* !again!

[danward79]

Hi

I would like to post my support to you guy's on this, I would love to have freeview working on sage tv in the UK.

What i cannot understand is the responce or lack of responce from Sage??? Jeff / Dan ???

Cheers

Dan

[danward79]

Does this plugin support the hauppauge dec-1000 or dec-2000 usb digital tuner?

Dan

[HookedOnTV]

Since it doesn't support the -S version of DVB would you be willing to release the source code for those of us with -S to work on adding support?