MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[kevthor]

The dark screen when the OSD appears is really starting to bug me. Is there any way we can tell just the client to not display the OSD while timeshifting? I don't mind the dark screen when changing channels but if we could prevent the OSD from displaying during timeshift this would be a work around for the dark screen problem.

Thanks!
-KevThor

[JasonJoel]

Actually, that is a good reminder for everyone...

If you are having issues, try COMPLETELY powering down the Media MVP. You should ALWAYS do this during an upgrade to MAtt's client. But even outside of upgrades it can fix a lot of weirdness. Actually, if I remember right, that is the only time it really 'reboots' and reloads the dongle.bin as well.

The one time I had the right side of the screen getting cut off, the ONLY thing that would fix it was to completely unplug it, and re-plug it in.

So try that if you have issues, you might save yourself a BUNCH of time.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by turak

Thanks for the quick reply. I think we are talking about two different issues though. The problem that I'm having is the right side of the screen getting cut off. After I posted my question, I did a cold boot (yanked the power cable on the MVP) and the problem went away.

[turak]

Originally Posted by kevthor

The dark screen when the OSD appears is really starting to bug me. Is there any way we can tell just the client to not display the OSD while timeshifting? I don't mind the dark screen when changing channels but if we could prevent the OSD from displaying during timeshift this would be a work around for the dark screen problem.

Thanks!
-KevThor

I changed the GuiServer.semitransparency property in the mvp.properties file to 85. It's alot less annoying now. It still gets a little dark, but it's not nearly as bad as the default.

[JasonJoel]

I did the same thing, just not as low as your setting.

That change, plus changing the OSD to only appear for 2 or 3 seconds (instead of the default 5) using Cayar's STV made the darkening very livable for me.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by turak

I changed the GuiServer.semitransparency property in the mvp.properties file to 85. It's alot less annoying now. It still gets a little dark, but it's not nearly as bad as the default.

[pbennington]

HI,
I am having trouble with the mvp getting hold of an ip address Matt gave me some pointers on
bridging my network which I thought I had fixed the problem as the mvp was working fine all day yesterday
but alas this morning I had the same problems, is there any network gurus out there that can help. here
is my setup.


main computer with cable modem shared across a wirless network to htpc computer

htpc computer with wirless network and ethernet adapter, ethernet adapter connect to hub which os connected
to my mvp.

I bridged the wirless network and ethernet adapter giving me one ip which I made static and set up in the
mvp.properties. The mvp then worked. It didin't matter whether I had the main computer on or not.

Is there anything that could be causeing the mvp not to get an IP, or is there a way of giving it a static ip?. The other thing os that if using the hauppage
software every thing seems fine?

Cheers in advance.

[Jason]

All-

Is there someone who can tell the 'steps' that the original MVP software utilizes in it's transcoding process from divx/xvid to mpg? I notice (never really bothered to look until now...) that there is an 'HCWOFFLINETRANSCODE.exe' file for offline transcoding in the distribution. Is this exe file called via some sort of command line (or rather can it be...)?

I ask in that IF someone knows (or can explain it...), maybe we can get Matt to incorporate the necessary files for transcoding. If the necessary files are already incorporated, and can be 'called', then it may be possible/do-able? No?

-Jason

[AJ Bertelson]

So basically from what I understand is that I could use sagetv that is on the server as a UI for the MVP and not have to buy another client license?

My future plan includes putting my sagetv server in its own box where it sits in the corner and have my 2 clients work off of it. With the MVP client I could use the sagetv ui that is on the server correct?

[sixdoubleo]

Is this the official "I have a problem with My SageTV MVP" thread, or should I post it to another thread?

[JasonJoel]

Hard to remember, but I think if you want to use more than one MVP you need a client license.

However, you can use a bunch of MVPs on one client license by following the installation instructions on Matt's web page. Whether Frey changes that in the future to require a license for each MVP or not, I don't know.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by AJ Bertelson

So basically from what I understand is that I could use sagetv that is on the server as a UI for the MVP and not have to buy another client license?

My future plan includes putting my sagetv server in its own box where it sits in the corner and have my 2 clients work off of it. With the MVP client I could use the sagetv ui that is on the server correct?

[JasonJoel]

This is as good a thread as any.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by sixdoubleo

Is this the official "I have a problem with My SageTV MVP" thread, or should I post it to another thread?

[srothwell]

Does anyone know why the blasted MVP just up and re-boots for no reason?

It seems to happen more if I'm watching a show that is currently recording or watching Live TV, but it's not exclusive to that.

During "Las Vegas" tonight, the darn thing re-booted twice. Of course, it complete wipes out the amount of the show watched (or it never updates it in the first place) and I've got to plod along to get back to where it was supposed to be after the re-boot.

I don't think the re-boots are exclusive to the Sage interface, it had some squirliness when it was just plain 'ole MVP.

Any help (or sympathy) would be appreciated.

Best regards,

Stacy

[PGPfan]

Stacy,

You might want to check out the MVP forums over at SHS's. There have been posts of similar behavior with certain versions of the MVP. Mine is a rev. D1, and I haven't had any trouble (other than the usual troubles with getting correct network connectivity) with it.

-PGPfan

[jhh]

Saw a posting earlier about reducing OSD to 3 seconds - I think it can be done in the standard stv as well. This is what I found in my sageclient config file:

mvp/configfile=mvp/mvp.properties
mvp/mvp=MVP1
osd_autohide_time=3000
osd_rendering_plugin_class=ch.streams.sage.mvp.MVPOSDRenderingPlugin

I have the Mlbdude2.stv - I haven't tried switching the OSD off yet. Thing that bugs me most now is slow reponse times in the menu. Apart from that I'm really very happy with my silent client.

Jan

[JasonJoel]

As mentioned in another post, there are some flaky rev's of the Media MVP. Might want to check the posts on SHSPVR for more info there.

I;ve found two other things that can cause it to reboot.

1. This is specific to the Sage client. If I do something very I/O or CPU intensive while watching a show on the MVP, it reboots. In my case when I do a backup and it catalogs all the files, my CPU goes to 100%, and the MVP looses communication everytime. Maybe not a reboot, but it goes back to 'searching for server' or whatever the screen says.

2. Overheating. ALL of the rev's of the Media MVP are sensitive to heat. Might want to double (and triple) check to make sure the unit is getting adequate air flow/cooling. For instance on mine, even though it is in an open media cabinet, if I set the MVP on top of my cable box it over heats and acts flaky. If I set it next to it, it doesn't...

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by srothwell

Does anyone know why the blasted MVP just up and re-boots for no reason?

Best regards,

Stacy

[sixdoubleo]

I have a strange problem with my SageMVP. I have SageTVClient installed on my system in C:\Program Files\SageMVP1. I launch it. The MVP connects just fine and seems to work for a while.

The problem is that once in a while, I'll go to play a Sage Recording, and I'll just get a black screen, yet all the overlays are there (progress bar, information display, etc). Almost as if the MPEG stream isn't happening.

If I try to go view LiveTV sometimes it'll show 2-3 seconds of the video and then freeze. I select another channel and it does the black screen thing again.

Anybody else get this?

[krutaw]

Originally Posted by sixdoubleo

I have a strange problem with my SageMVP. I have SageTVClient installed on my system in C:\Program Files\SageMVP1. I launch it. The MVP connects just fine and seems to work for a while.

The problem is that once in a while, I'll go to play a Sage Recording, and I'll just get a black screen, yet all the overlays are there (progress bar, information display, etc). Almost as if the MPEG stream isn't happening.

If I try to go view LiveTV sometimes it'll show 2-3 seconds of the video and then freeze. I select another channel and it does the black screen thing again.

Anybody else get this?

Yes, I am. I noticed that this happens when I try to play a file that doesn't actually exist in any of the video directories. Once it happens, the only way to fix it for me is to close the sage client and restart it.

[sixdoubleo]

Originally Posted by krutaw

Yes, I am. I noticed that this happens when I try to play a file that doesn't actually exist in any of the video directories. Once it happens, the only way to fix it for me is to close the sage client and restart it.

Hmmm....what do you mean? There is a reference to a video and the mpg file is simply gone? Or are you saying the file is there but not accessible?

I get the error when watching recordings that are in fact there.

[JasonJoel]

I've gotten that when I had files that I couldn't access, but were physically there.

In my case, I couldn't access them because I was out of connections. My Sage server is on a WinXP Pro operating system, and there is a very limited total number of connections for peer-to-peer shares (10 I think). Since I had 5 shares video dirs, I ran out of the connections very quickly when I actually used clients on separate machines that had the network shares mapped as drives and then the MVP client on those machines.

Anyway, no problem since I switched to UNC specified paths... Those only use up a connection is they are really being used (as opposed to mapping drives, which chew up a connection just by being mapped whether something is being used on that drive or not).

Might not help you, but thought I would share anyway.

Jason Bottjen

[sixdoubleo]

OK, here are some details on my problem. Basically LiveTV plays for about 7 seconds and then freezes. I can still use the interface, but the video and sound is frozen.

SageClient 2.1.10. It is running on a dedicated WinXP Pro system. SageTV Service running on another WinXP system. All paths are accessible from everywhere. (I use UNC names)

I have tried powering down the MVP, rebooting the PC, running SageClient, then powering up the MVP. I go to LiveTV, select a show, the channel changes, and then the show starts playing. 7 seconds later it freezes.

SageTVClient works fine in 3 other places in my house.

Here is a snippet of the log at the time of the freeze.

Tue 11/16 18:11:28:109 10 INFO Config.getProperties: Properties loaded: mvp/mvp.properties
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:628 11 INFO MVPBaseServers.run: Starting..., version=1.0.0
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:628 11 INFO BootpServer.startServerDaemon
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:648 11 INFO TftpServer.startServerDaemon
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:678 11 INFO ServiceLocatorServer.startServerDaemon
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:698 12 INFO TftpServer.run: Listen on sidekick/192.168.1.150:16869
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:698 13 INFO BootpServer.run: Listen on sidekick/192.168.1.150:16867
Tue 11/16 18:11:31:718 14 INFO ServiceLocatorServer.run: Listen on sidekick/192.168.1.150:16881
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:199 15 INFO MVPOSDRenderingPlugin.openOSD: width=720, height=480
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:199 15 INFO MVPClientServers.run: Starting..., version=1.0.0, mvp=MVP1
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:209 15 INFO GuiServer.startServerDaemon
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:229 16 INFO GuiServer.run: Listen on sidekick/192.168.1.150:5906
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:239 15 INFO MediaServer.startServerDaemon
Tue 11/16 18:11:32:249 17 INFO MediaServer.run: Listen on sidekick/192.168.1.150:6337
Tue 11/16 18:13:39:540 17 SEVERE MediaServer.run
java.io.IOException: The specified server cannot perform the requested operation
	at sun.nio.ch.FileDispatcher.read0(Native Method)
	at sun.nio.ch.FileDispatcher.read(Unknown Source)
	at sun.nio.ch.IOUtil.readIntoNativeBuffer(Unknown Source)
	at sun.nio.ch.IOUtil.read(Unknown Source)
	at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.read(Unknown Source)
	at ch.streams.mvp.mediaserver.MediaFile.read(MediaFile.java:218)
	at ch.streams.mvp.mediaserver.SimpleMediaServer.handleGetData(SimpleMediaServer.java:99)
	at ch.streams.mvp.mediaserver.MediaServer.run(MediaServer.java:141)
	at ch.streams.mvp.AbstractServer$1.run(AbstractServer.java:121)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Tue 11/16 18:14:15:603 15 INFO MVPOSDRenderingPlugin.closeOSD

Any ideas? Is there a minimum JVM I need to be running?

[sixdoubleo]

Originally Posted by JasonJoel

I've gotten that when I had files that I couldn't access, but were physically there.

In my case, I couldn't access them because I was out of connections. My Sage server is on a WinXP Pro operating system, and there is a very limited total number of connections for peer-to-peer shares (10 I think). Since I had 5 shares video dirs, I ran out of the connections very quickly when I actually used clients on separate machines that had the network shares mapped as drives and then the MVP client on those machines.

Anyway, no problem since I switched to UNC specified paths... Those only use up a connection is they are really being used (as opposed to mapping drives, which chew up a connection just by being mapped whether something is being used on that drive or not).

Might not help you, but thought I would share anyway.

Jason Bottjen

Well....actually my Media Server IS a WinXP Pro system. How did you discover that was the case? Did you notice this in the event viewer of the server?

Edit: I don't think my XP "server" is running out of connections. I am looking at it right now and there are zero connections.... (My Computer, Manage, Shared Folders, Sessions) Then I open an mp3 from it and voila....one connection. So I don't think that's the issue.

What version of Java are you running?