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Old 09-27-2005, 02:44 PM
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Timebar and watching problem

Hi all

I Have this problem with watching recorded shows. When i select a show i recorded and select 'watch now' the viewing starts, but the timebar moves waaaaaay too fast. The videoplayback speed is normal. On a one hour show, the timebar is done in 2 minutes and thinks it is the end of the show, while it has only been underway for those 2 minutes. SageTV then comes with a pop-up asking me if i want to delete the show or not.
I am unable to watch anything like this. When viewing the file in the mediaplayer, all is fine....!
Very strange, but perhaps some1 can help.

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Old 09-27-2005, 05:57 PM
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I believe Sage can act like this if your create and modify dates/times are messed up. Synchonrize your times, and make sure you are not messing with the modify times afterward either yourself or from another program..

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Old 09-28-2005, 01:58 AM
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Hi Cory

I'm sorry but i don't think i follow what you mean. Do you mean changing the dates of the files?

Anyway, and addition. I'm also running a hauppauge MVP with the Sagetv client. When viewing the recorded shows on the mvp all is fine too. Just when viewing on the main pc i get the problem.

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Old 09-28-2005, 10:43 AM
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I moved this to the beta forum since your signature says you are using the v3 beta... would you please submit a bug report on this and save your logs from a time when it happened?

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Old 09-29-2005, 01:07 AM
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Hi opus,

You are right, i forgot about that :s

I sure hope some1 has a solution for this.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:00 AM
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Hi henk

What I was getting at is the timebar is generated based on the timestamps on your file and the stored begin time in the database (as far as I can tell). This means that you can get really weird time bar behaviour if your recording files have funny create/modify timestamps for some reason. they should be stamped to be the exact end of the show. I dont know if this is the problem, but its one thing that I could imagine causing the symptoms you describe...

for what its worth..

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Old 09-30-2005, 02:39 AM
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Hi Cory,

Well it is certainly interesting. I find it very strange that the MVP is doing fine with the files (mediaplayer and powerdvd as well...). Basically the files have a creation date, which in my case is the start date of the show. Also they have a last modification date, which is also the end of the recording. So, it appears to be right. I will have a deeper look into that.

i also put in a bug report to SageTV, and they suggested i'd try version 3.0.11 beta. However, it is a lot of work to install a new version just to try something. New client install, new mvp, new epg plugin....takes quite some time, and there is also the time i won't be able to record.
Anyway, is there a simpler way? I mean can it be installed over an old copy and keep some of the settings?

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Old 09-30-2005, 08:18 AM
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they suggested i'd try version 3.0.11 beta. However, it is a lot of work to install a new version just to try something. New client install, new mvp, new epg plugin....takes quite some time, and there is also the time i won't be able to record.
Anyway, is there a simpler way? I mean can it be installed over an old copy and keep some of the settings?
I don't have to worry about XMLTV, but when I install an update, I simply close SageTV, make a backup copy of the complete SageTV installation directory tree, install the new version over the top of the old one, and restart SageTV. It uses all my old settings, so everything just continues -- including the MVP. If there is a serious problem, I can uninstall the latest version, re-install the previous version, then copy the backup copy over the re-installation to replace all the old data files.

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Old 09-30-2005, 08:38 AM
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Hi Opus,

I guess i'm not that lucky....

I did this and just installed over the old one, but upon restart it comes up with the wizard and needs all settings. So, i guess it gets overwritten. Luckily i made a back-up. So, when i put it back it 'worked' like before.

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Old 09-30-2005, 08:47 AM
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That's strange... you didn't uninstall or delete any of the previous version's files before installing the update, did you?

Was v3.0.7 really the previous version? I don't remember when, but at some point the marker for having already run the Configuration Wizard changed & you would have to run it again. It keeps all the previous settings, so you pretty much just have to accept things on each screen. Everything, including tuners, should already be set up in this case.

One other thing that could cause this would be if it were installed to a different or empty directory & therefore a previous properties file was not already available.

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Old 10-03-2005, 01:07 AM
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That's strange... you didn't uninstall or delete any of the previous version's files before installing the update, did you?

Was v3.0.7 really the previous version? I don't remember when, but at some point the marker for having already run the Configuration Wizard changed & you would have to run it again. It keeps all the previous settings, so you pretty much just have to accept things on each screen. Everything, including tuners, should already be set up in this case.

One other thing that could cause this would be if it were installed to a different or empty directory & therefore a previous properties file was not already available.

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Hi Opus

I tried a couple of times, but couldn't get it to install over the old one. Eventually i did a clean install, which luckily solved the problem too. So, all time lost with that wasn't really lost
Spent a lot of time getting XMLTV up and running again, but all is good again.

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Old 10-04-2005, 12:58 AM
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Interestingly enough, i copied back the 'old' wiz.bin file because i wanted to get my favourites back. Someone in another thread adviced me on that. However, this brought back the original issue i had.
I then copied the proper wiz.bin back (3.0.11 version) and the problem was gone! So, apparantly the problem is in there. Can anyone comment on this, how the problem can be in the wiz.bin all of a sudden?

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Old 10-04-2005, 05:14 AM
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Sounds like your wiz.bin file is corrupted.
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Old 10-11-2005, 05:21 AM
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Hi all

Well, i have installed the 3.0.11 beta and in the beginning it appeared to be fine, problem solved it seemed.
However, last sunday i saw the same problem again. Computer was on from the day sagetv was installed again, so no crashes or anything to corrupt any files. I have tried a reboot to see it that helped, but it appears that i am back to where i started.
Again, playback is fine through the MVP setup in the living room, but in my office i can't watch any recording because the timebar reaches the end in 1 minute or so.
At this point i'm watching my recordings with PowerDVD, which plays them fine.

I still can't understand what the problem is here. I did a clean install of everything. The client (in conjuction with the MVP) is doing fine, while sagetv screws up all recordings

Any help appreciated.

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Old 10-11-2005, 06:42 AM
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Again, playback is fine through the MVP setup in the living room, but in my office i can't watch any recording because the timebar reaches the end in 1 minute or so.

Henk99
I have had 3.0.11 running on a dedicated PC connected only to a TV for a few weeks since upgrading from 3.0.7. PVR350 for cable in and S-vid out, 500 for two more inputs from cable. I noticed this problem very severly a couple of weeks ago and found a reg fix (Narflex's?). Until that, I couldn't watch anything. It didn't help entirely. I still have a few files that were recorded prior to the fix, and some since, that do this. Some shows recorded before and after the reg change are fine.

When a "bad" file plays:
Time bar goes at abnormal speed. A show gets to the end of the time bar in 2-20 minutes with the time bar incrementing 3-15 seconds every second. Hitting play again when it "ends" will resume playback from the "end". Using the FF or Rew after this will cause very odd behaviour, usually returning you to the wrong end of file position. If left alone, the file will eventually play to the "real" end.

I hope this work around will help some, but I hope that Sage or someone can offer advice to solve this.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:37 AM
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I did not re-read all the old posts above, so... changing the video/audio decoders didn't help?

Have you submitted a bug for it? I don't know a reason that this should happen & so far no one else seems to know the cause either. Create a log of it happening by restarting SageTV, playing a video where this happens, then exiting. That should leave a smaller log file w/this issue.

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Old 10-11-2005, 01:03 PM
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Thanks dpothier and Opus.

I have never seen or heard about any regfix for this. I would appreciate anyone being able to point me to it. Worth a try i guess.

I have indeed submitted a bugreport some weeks ago. They then read through the logs and suggested an upgrade to the V3.0.11 version. I did so and thought it was ok. I checked with liveTV though, which i timeshifted a few minutes. I didn't check with older recordings, as i thought they might be bad.
However, after a week of recording with the new version, i found i still had this problem. I asked for further feedback from SageTv as well.
For now i can't get my head around one working fine and the other srewing up. I hope someone will solve this. It's very annoying i can assure you

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