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Old 07-27-2006, 08:05 PM
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Hi Justin,

The problem you are having is that you can't use the coax input and the composite input at the same time. The only way you could achieve that is to connect the 'optional 2nd input bracket' that is normally shipped with the PVR-500 (if purchased from "PCAlchemy" at least) and use that for your composite input. The other advice I'd give is to try to connect using s-video only. That will give you the best possible picture with standard definition.

Using either the coax input or the composite input on board the card will get you 'tuner 1' only.

Hope this helps!

-PGPfan
Um, the coax input is available to both tuners. I think it would just be a matter of setting up tuner 2 to use the coax input tuned to channel 3.

Now, with trying to set up 6 tuners, it may be preferred to get 3 additional "2nd input" panels to maintain the highest quality signal, but it shouldn't be required.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:16 PM
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Hi Justin,

The problem you are having is that you can't use the coax input and the composite input at the same time. The only way you could achieve that is to connect the 'optional 2nd input bracket' that is normally shipped with the PVR-500 (if purchased from "PCAlchemy" at least) and use that for your composite input. The other advice I'd give is to try to connect using s-video only. That will give you the best possible picture with standard definition.

Using either the coax input or the composite input on board the card will get you 'tuner 1' only.

Hope this helps!

-PGPfan
Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly so let me describe my PVR-500 setup. I have tuner 1 setup to be composite inputs from a STB and tuner 2 is setup as coax input direct from the splitter from the line into the house connected to the coax input of the PVR-500. I can record one coax and one composite at the same time. Now actually I have 2 PVR-500's setup this way and another PVR-250 on coax also so in reality I can record 5 things simultaneously 3 coax and 2 composite on 3 tuner cards.

Were you saying that the above wasn't possible? Because it works for me and I don't need the second bracket. However if you mean that you will need the brackett for two composite inputs then that is true. Also since the OP is using Satalite I wouldn't recommend going coax since PQ would not be as good as even composite and would be best if SVideo.

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Old 07-27-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PGPfan
Hi Justin,

The problem you are having is that you can't use the coax input and the composite input at the same time. The only way you could achieve that is to connect the 'optional 2nd input bracket' that is normally shipped with the PVR-500 (if purchased from "PCAlchemy" at least) and use that for your composite input. The other advice I'd give is to try to connect using s-video only. That will give you the best possible picture with standard definition.

Using either the coax input or the composite input on board the card will get you 'tuner 1' only.

Hope this helps!

-PGPfan
PGPfan, that makes sense.. sucks since I have placed 2 orders already and now I need this. But thank you for making it very clear. Can you verify for me that this is the part I need?

http://store.sagetv.com/Merchant2/me...Category_Code=

Thank you.

Justin
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:29 PM
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BobP, You are correct regarding it being 'possible' for coax input simultaneously with composite but with a sat receiver I've never had any luck with it. Analog cable is a different story.

For the record, I don't have a PVR-500 myself but I recently set one up for a friend. When using satellite, your best option overall is to get the add-on bracket and run s-video to both inputs.

Yes, Justin that is the correct bracket. However, try quickly doing your setup as Bob and Ke6gui suggest to try it out first before spending the cash. If you are successful and the PQ is good enough for you then don't bother spending the money.

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Old 07-28-2006, 11:07 AM
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Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly so let me describe my PVR-500 setup. I have tuner 1 setup to be composite inputs from a STB and tuner 2 is setup as coax input direct from the splitter from the line into the house connected to the coax input of the PVR-500. I can record one coax and one composite at the same time. Now actually I have 2 PVR-500's setup this way and another PVR-250 on coax also so in reality I can record 5 things simultaneously 3 coax and 2 composite on 3 tuner cards.

Were you saying that the above wasn't possible? Because it works for me and I don't need the second bracket. However if you mean that you will need the brackett for two composite inputs then that is true. Also since the OP is using Satalite I wouldn't recommend going coax since PQ would not be as good as even composite and would be best if SVideo.

BobP.
BobP, the trouble I am having is that when I choose the coax input when setting up the video sources it all looks good until I get to the guide. Normally I can click on done or something like that to finish the setup but when I choose the coax input it never let's me get past the guide setup. When I select view on that page is when I get the error. I know this is fairly confusing but if you have any ideas it is appreciated.

Thank you.

Justin
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:05 PM
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BobP, the trouble I am having is that when I choose the coax input when setting up the video sources it all looks good until I get to the guide. Normally I can click on done or something like that to finish the setup but when I choose the coax input it never let's me get past the guide setup. When I select view on that page is when I get the error. I know this is fairly confusing but if you have any ideas it is appreciated.

Thank you.

Justin
You could try to setup all of them without viewing anything in the setup screens. Just accept it without allowing it to display. If that doesn't work set it up for the wrong input. Use Composite for all of the inputs then after you have it setup change it back to tuner by going to:
Setup Video Sources>Select the tuner you want to be coax>Select Input Type>Change from composite to TV Tuner>Then exit out.
See if that works otherwise I'm out of ideas.

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Old 08-23-2006, 06:17 AM
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Ok quick question got an idea. from what I was reading above I got the inclination that this is what your describing (about channel 3) are you telling me something like this is possible ?

2 sat boxes into a Combiner (coax combiner) set one sat to ch3 and the other to ch4 and then tell tuner 1 to use ch3 and tuner 2 to use ch4 and that will work ???

That is REALLY neat if that would work. is that what your trying to do or did you mean something else ?

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Old 08-23-2006, 09:59 AM
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2 sat boxes into a Combiner (coax combiner) set one sat to ch3 and the other to ch4 and then tell tuner 1 to use ch3 and tuner 2 to use ch4 and that will work ???
I've used signal combiners on a 4-drop DTV+cableTV setup. Still have it working at home. However, everything I've seen says you need the 'special' splitters at the TV end of things for it to work. Of course that's due to the DTV signal being a raw feen from the LNBs. I never thought about trying it w/ you idea. Sounds like an interesting scheme.
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