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Old 09-12-2006, 06:51 PM
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Best Intel CPU for HD Client?

I am looking to put together a new dedicated client machine for HD play back. Since this machine will be a dedicated client machine it will never be multi-tasking while watching HD (I already have a server that records HD). I "think" I am better off with the highest clock-speed CPU in my price range but I am not sure, hence this post. Given the (3) CPU's below which would you choose? I listed prices but I am not concerned with the $40 spread.

~$180 - Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 3.0GHz
~$229 - Intel Pentium D 950 Presler 3.4GHz Dual Core
~$229 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz

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Old 09-12-2006, 07:37 PM
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I'd guess with a good video card, they are all up to the task. The core 2 Duo is supposed to run much cooler so that would make it the choice for a quiet client box.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:42 PM
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Go with the Conroe; runs cooler, sucks less power, and gives more performance than the P4 or the Pentium D.

For HD video, you really want a video card that can handle HD acceleration (ATI x1x series or nVidia Geforce 7-series) With my Radeon x800Pro, 1080P video clips stuttered badly and maxed out the CPU (2.2ghz Athlon XP). I recently bought a Geforce 7800GS and 1080P videos are now smooth as glass with minimal CPU usage.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:45 PM
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Spend the extra money on a good video card. If you get a better video card those could all be considered overkill for a dedicated client. Better off looking at a Pentium D 820 (2.8ghz) and putting the extra 70-110 into a video card.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:52 PM
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Thanks for the feed back so far. I was planning on a passive cooled 7600GT for the video card.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the feed back so far. I was planning on a passive cooled 7600GT for the video card.
I bought a 7600GT and put a Zalman fan on it, might as well be silent. FWIW

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Old 09-12-2006, 09:29 PM
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anybody see this bad boy yet?

Intel Core Quadro

Not in your list but WOWOWOWOW!!! is it the best...
Now if I could only win the lottery?
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:13 AM
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Will Sage take advantage of the dual-core for HD playback?

If not it almost seems like a 3 or 3.2 GHz single-core Prescott would be better for HD playback then a Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe running at 2.13GHz. Is there something I am missing?
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:41 AM
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Clock speed is not everything.....
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:00 AM
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Clock speed is not everything.....
So Very true.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:27 AM
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So Very true.
Some people seem to be missing the fact that he said DEDICATED CLIENT. There's no need to spec out your dream system for this!
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:50 AM
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Will Sage take advantage of the dual-core for HD playback?
To answer this general purpose question: SageTV uses multiple threads and will take advantage of multiple cores. But, for playback, I believe it will depend on whether the decoder can take advantage of multiple cores. I have no idea which decoders, if any, do.

I know that on my dual core system, if I try using VMR9 on a secondary monitor (DirectX software emulation, I believe), my cpu usage during playback can hit more than 60% cpu usage... and 50% usage means a single cpu is fully in use.

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Old 09-13-2006, 09:40 AM
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Some people seem to be missing the fact that he said DEDICATED CLIENT. There's no need to spec out your dream system for this!

My client runs off of a sempron 2600 running at 1.6ghz. It runs a lot faster than a P4 1.6 (that was my only point).
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:05 AM
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My client runs off of a sempron 2600 running at 1.6ghz. It runs a lot faster than a P4 1.6 (that was my only point).
Oh I was agreeing with you!
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:08 PM
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Oh I was agreeing with you!

Sorry! I thought you were saying I was specing out a dream machine! Although now that you mention it....*starts thinking about his dream machine*.....Oh mannnnn...Core 2 Duo 6800 Extreme....*starts drooling*...
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:31 PM
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I decided on the Duo Core 2.

I also went to the CPU comparison charts on tomshardware. While they don't have anything specific to HD playback they do have some video related tests. Though, I am not sure any of them mean anything to what I am trying to do.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=437&chart=173

Thanks for the help!
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:08 PM
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If this truely is a dedicated client - SD or HD - you're spending a lot of unnecessary money. But hey it's you're money to toss in the wind.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:31 PM
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It's just that it took me so long to get HD to record (it wasn't until Sage 5 that I got it working, tried since 2.something), now I am having playback issues with a 2.4 Celeron and ATI9600 I just don't want to have any more problems. It seems to take a heavy-duty system to play back HD. I just added up all the parts I need for a Duo Core 2 and I am at $680 (MB, CPU, Mem, Video). Decisions decisions.
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It's just that it took me so long to get HD to record (it wasn't until Sage 5 that I got it working, tried since 2.something), now I am having playback issues with a 2.4 Celeron and ATI9600 I just don't want to have any more problems. It seems to take a heavy-duty system to play back HD. I just added up all the parts I need for a Duo Core 2 and I am at $680 (MB, CPU, Mem, Video). Decisions decisions.
You don't really need as heavy duty of a system - you need a heavy duty video card - search the forum - that is way more important.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:57 PM
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You don't need to go overboard... assuming you plan on re-using your case, PSU, optical drives, etc you can build a damned-good client for ~$500

DFI RS482 mobo - $86
AMD Athlon X2 3800+ - $150
1 gig DDR 400 dual channel kit - $100
Geforce 7600GT - $115
nVidia PureVideo - $20

Total Cost: $471
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