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Old 12-07-2006, 12:18 PM
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Question is my Sage server broken?

hope this is the right group...

well, my MVP freaked out on me this morning. it's been turning itself off once in awhile since I got it. This time when I turned it back on it got stuck on the teal Sage boot screen. I'm testing v6 on the laptop so I set the MVP to connect to it instead and I get the same thing. Couple of times the MVP has flashed between black and boot screens and I had to unplug it. I'm thoroughly baffled this time around. The darn thing will connect and play well w/ the Hauppauge s/w. The webserver is working fine as far as I can tell; just checked and VLC will stream recordings. Placeshifter on the other hand sees the v5 server, but refuses to connect to it at all.

Just checked the web server again and it shows the MVP connected. Thing is I unplugged it about 3min ago; power button on the remote didn't work. WAF is dropping.

Service and the computer have been restarted several times and I deleted the properties file for the MVP. Still no dice.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:01 PM
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I used to be plagued with these exact same problems. A few months ago I made 2 changes. First, I did a fresh reinstall of sage. (I renamed the old directory, installed sage from scratch and then copied my old wiz.bin and properties files into the new install directory.) Second, I changed my DHCP server from a netgear router to a D-link router. It has been months and I have not seen any problems with the MVP since. I'm not sure which change made the difference. All I can say is I had gone through many previous attempts to fix the problem including erasing the extender properties file and trying the different mvp.bin files posted in the forums. Sorry I can't be more specific, but hopefully this helps a little.

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Old 12-07-2006, 02:04 PM
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mine is set up with a linux server handing out static IPs based on MAC #s. I might feel "froggy" later on and try the reinstall after I rar the entire sage program folder. The MVP (wired) seems to be working fine w/ the v6 install on the laptop w/ 54g. It hates the v5 install now. It's a shame v6 is still an RC or I'd just bump v5 off here and try that.

I tried the debugging mode and got some interesting errors near the end:

Code:
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.359 Creating new UI for client:000dfe0b1339
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.364 ImageUtils loading URL jar:file:/C:/Program%20Files/SageTV/SageTV/Sage.jar!/images/tvicon.gif
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.366 ImageUtils creating BI copy sun.awt.windows.WImage@19820e5
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.372 UIMgr loading UI from: C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\SageTV3-11.xml
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.380 VF thread is now running...
Thu 12/7 14:49:30.380 VF thread is now waiting for 0:00:00.000
Thu 12/7 14:49:35.314 Menu: Updating CPU/MotherboardData true
Thu 12/7 14:49:38.749 Menu: Updating CPU/MotherboardData true
Thu 12/7 14:49:40.891 Menu: Updating CPU/MotherboardData true
Thu 12/7 14:49:42.980 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6350
Thu 12/7 14:49:43.005 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6350
Thu 12/7 14:49:45.095 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 5304
Thu 12/7 14:49:46.141 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6350
Thu 12/7 14:49:46.141 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6350
Thu 12/7 14:49:49.209 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6351
Thu 12/7 14:50:09.558 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 6351

<snip> hang times eventually hit mid 60k's

Thu 12/7 14:53:33.462 Sage.exit() called.
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.463 Cleaning up servers
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.465 Error w/SageTV client connection:java.net.SocketException: socket closed
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.466 Cleaning up PM
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.470 Killed Carny.
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.470 Killed Scheduler.
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.471 Error calling finishWatch from VF goodbye:java.lang.NullPointerException
Thu 12/7 14:53:33.471 Killed Seeker.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:44 PM
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Something interesting I found the other day, this probably isn't your problem, but Sage will not load on an MVP if your DHCP server doesn't hand out a default gateway, even though the MVP should not need one. I know most hardware/routers do this by default, but I was having trouble with DHCP (still am) working on my linksys wrt54g so I switched to a software dhcp server which does not give a default gateway unless you specify one which I figured wasn't neccessary.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:26 PM
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ok, did the reinstall from scratch. MVP is happy again.

Got all my stvi's back in. Now my Recordings menu looks totally foreign. It used to look like the upcoming recordings menu in the default stv. Closest menu I can compare it to is the upcoming movies screen sorted by title/date. is there a way I can get it back to looking like the upcoming menu again?

oh, the first run dots started working on the guide in the MVP. not sure how that happened; never worked on the mvp before.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hemicuda
ok, did the reinstall from scratch. MVP is happy again.

Got all my stvi's back in. Now my Recordings menu looks totally foreign. It used to look like the upcoming recordings menu in the default stv. Closest menu I can compare it to is the upcoming movies screen sorted by title/date. is there a way I can get it back to looking like the upcoming menu again?

oh, the first run dots started working on the guide in the MVP. not sure how that happened; never worked on the mvp before.
If you turn off the "secret" UI features, the "Recordings" listings look exactly like the recording schedule if you turn off grouping and sort by newest first. I'm not sure how to get the original recordings style with the secret features, or if you can.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:53 PM
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YOu can go into the settings pages and change the menus back to the default from the malore style. I dont remember the exact page, but it is towards the bottom of the menu, in the "unsupported options" or something like that.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Go to Detailed Setup -> Customize, scroll down to "Unsupported Features", and change Recording Style from malore to default.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:41 PM
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Go to Detailed Setup -> Customize, scroll down to "Unsupported Features", and change Recording Style from malore to default.
duh to me. that was it. I'm so used to how "default" behaves on the other settings that I didn't even think about it.

Now I have to wait for smallville to finish so I can figure out why I'm missing the enable/disable comskip menu while watching a show. comskip is working well; I just can't turn it off from the options menu.

Edit: duh again. didn't notice comskip was 1.2.1 so that'll fix the menus
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