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Old 02-25-2007, 09:44 PM
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- when I browse a folder in the imported video library, then go back to Sage's main menu, the next time I go to the video library, it defaults to displaying that last folder of videos. Very confusing (took me a minute to figure out why I couldn't see all of my video folders). In my opinion, Sage should default back to the full list of video folders if a user exits the video library.
You can set this property to have it not remember the last-viewed folder: video_lib/last_folder/remember=false. I haven't tested that in a while, so let me know if it doesn't work. There are music and photo_lib versions of that property also.

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Old 02-25-2007, 11:31 PM
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What do you mean by calibrate? I never change any settings when switching between Overlay and VMR9 and the picture looks exactly the same.
I find that in overlay, the black level(brightness) is lower so the picture is darker. If I calibrate my display for overlay then switch to VMR9, the picture looks too bright.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:50 AM
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I've been unable to get 6.1 to convert my HD recordings (from HDHomeRun, 1080i) to DVD ready MPEG w/AC3. It has failed every time and once it deleted the original recording even though I did not check the "replace original" box.

Before I file a bug report I was wondering if anybody elseexperiencing this? The log file has nothing obvious in it.
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:20 AM
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Is it failing right out of the gate, or after its been converting for a bit, or does it produce a non-working video file?

I just fired off converting last week's Numb3rs, which was recorded on the HDHR, and it's currently chugging along (at 2% at the moment). I won't be able to test the result until I get home though, well unless I use placeshifter (I'd rather test it on a HD capable machine, just to make sure the output is good).

I'll let you know if it fails soon as it's done if that's what's happening....

Now I just need to get the new drive I got put in the system, and the HD tuner to use it specifically for it's recordings as it's much faster than my old drives :P.

So far my experience with 6.1.3 has been without any problems, much faster, and much better all around (and I especially like how then went with a almost MCE spinning logo ).
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I've been unable to get 6.1 to convert my HD recordings (from HDHomeRun, 1080i) to DVD ready MPEG w/AC3. It has failed every time and once it deleted the original recording even though I did not check the "replace original" box.

Before I file a bug report I was wondering if anybody elseexperiencing this? The log file has nothing obvious in it.
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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I haven't had a successful video conversion from HD to DVD (w/ or w/o AC3) or to MPG4 (any quality). SD is converting fine, but all the HD conversion attempts fail.

However, got my Hauppauge 1600 shortly before I installed 6.1.3, so I only had the opportunity to perform one HD conversion prior to installing the RC. That one attempt worked fine (and all attempts since installing 6.1.3 have failed), but that's not a very solid track record to make comparisons on.

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Old 02-26-2007, 08:43 AM
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Is it failing immediately, or is the resultant file non-playable? I'm at 27% at the moment, and still going.

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I haven't had a successful video conversion from HD to DVD (w/ or w/o AC3) or to MPG4 (any quality). SD is converting fine, but all the HD conversion attempts fail.

However, got my Hauppauge 1600 shortly before I installed 6.1.3, so I only had the opportunity to perform one HD conversion prior to installing the RC. That one attempt worked fine (and all attempts since installing 6.1.3 have failed), but that's not a very solid track record to make comparisons on.

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Old 02-26-2007, 09:53 AM
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Mine do not fail immediately. It goes on for a while and then quits leaving no compressed file at all. In only 1 case it deleted the original HD recording so I am writing that off as a fluke.

My early guess is that it has something to do with "semi-corrupted" recordings off the HDHR. I've read posts by the ComSkip and ShowAnalyzer authors saying that the HDHR recordings have some strangeness to them (like strange GOPs) that cause problems with commercial detection. They have surmized that there are some bit errors in the video stream.
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Old 02-26-2007, 10:11 AM
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I'm curious - what is the destination file for the conversion? For now, make sure the converted file either has a different name or uses a different destination directory. Currently, there is an issue if you convert to the same file name in the same dir as the source file.

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Old 02-26-2007, 12:09 PM
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Is it failing immediately, or is the resultant file non-playable? I'm at 27% at the moment, and still going.
It usually runs to 20 something percent, and then next time I check it will show up as failed.

As far as file names, I use the existing file name, but have them put into a COMPRESSED folder that's within my Sage folder.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:31 PM
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If your favorite is still in the process of being recorded, then no, you shouldn't be able to change channels (and Sage will report it as Live TV since it can't tell the difference).

If that's not the case, check System Information to see what the tuners are doing.
Huh? I've been using Sage for 4 years, and that has never been the case. If a viewer tries to change channels while a favourite is being recorded, Sage has always asked "Do you want to cancel the Favourite recording (fill in the blank) and switch channels to (fill in the blank)?". I've always been able to do this (literally hundreds of times).

Maybe something has changed since version 5.04, but it would be crazy not to allow a user the choice to cancel a favourite recording and watch live tv.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:36 PM
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I've been unable to get 6.1 to convert my HD recordings (from HDHomeRun, 1080i) to DVD ready MPEG w/AC3. It has failed every time and once it deleted the original recording even though I did not check the "replace original" box.

Before I file a bug report I was wondering if anybody elseexperiencing this? The log file has nothing obvious in it.
Sorry, I have the opposite experience. Under 6.0, I could successfully converted HD from an HD Homerun to DVD w/o AC3, but then it broke on me for a reason I could not figure out - absolutely no system changes I can recall. Upon upgrading to 6.1, the conversions work fine now, although I have not tried with AC3 as I could never get that to work in the old version.

My issue with 6.1 appears to be that my ripped DVDs no longer play as Sage will lock up on a black screen if I select one of the imported DVD rips. There is a separate thread I am tracking on this issue though.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:58 PM
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Huh? I've been using Sage for 4 years, and that has never been the case. If a viewer tries to change channels while a favourite is being recorded, Sage has always asked "Do you want to cancel the Favourite recording (fill in the blank) and switch channels to (fill in the blank)?". I've always been able to do this (literally hundreds of times).
I seems to me I've always got the "Can't do that because all tuners are in use" message in this situation. But when I tried it just now, it did exactly what you said. So it looks like you're right and I'm just remembering wrong. Or there's some other subtlety here we don't quite fathom.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:05 PM
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It usually runs to 20 something percent, and then next time I check it will show up as failed.

As far as file names, I use the existing file name, but have them put into a COMPRESSED folder that's within my Sage folder.
Okay, Sage is making a liar out of me: Just to verify I was telling you the right info, I went to try again to convert last week's episode of 24. I had already tried several formats, but I figured I'd try again and watch it to see exactly when it failed.

Well, it's now at 108% of the conversion process. Hasn't failed yet, though.

UPDATE: Well, it's up to 123% now and still going. I've put Sage into standby to see if that was keeping it going, but, judging from CPU usage, it's still running.

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Old 02-26-2007, 04:38 PM
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I seems to me I've always got the "Can't do that because all tuners are in use" message in this situation. But when I tried it just now, it did exactly what you said. So it looks like you're right and I'm just remembering wrong. Or there's some other subtlety here we don't quite fathom.
Thanks for the response, sice I thought maybe I was losing it completely

Who knows, but I'll be testing more to see if it always occurs, or if last night was something irrecular.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:19 PM
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Well, it's up to 179% now, still using 100% of cpu. Everything seems to be working otherwise. Is this a two pass process by chance?
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:21 PM
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Sorry to go on, but this one is serious:

I can't change channels right now. Sage says "...all encoders are in use by clients watching "Live" TV"

My wife is watching the Oscars and I'm watching a favourite recording. There are no other active clients and I have two tuners. I should be able to change channels. Server log attached (and I'll submit a formal bug report).
Turns out there was another active client. These guys were watching the Favorite recording:

/192.168.1.6:2281@@SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI

and

UIManager:localhost@@000dfe007c4d-1d1d320

The first is a SageTVClient at the IP, and the second is a MediaMVP.

The Oscars were being watched by client:

/192.168.1.5:3179@@SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI

So the message was correct.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:22 PM
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Well, it's up to 179% now, still using 100% of cpu. Everything seems to be working otherwise. Is this a two pass process by chance?
That's odd...it shouldn't be going above 100%. Submit a bug report please.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:18 PM
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Turns out there was another active client. These guys were watching the Favorite recording:

/192.168.1.6:2281@@SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI

and

UIManager:localhost@@000dfe007c4d-1d1d320

The first is a SageTVClient at the IP, and the second is a MediaMVP.

The Oscars were being watched by client:

/192.168.1.5:3179@@SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI

So the message was correct.
Hi Jeff. I actually checked and double checked the MVP before posting (the wife has a habit...). The screeen was blank and the light was not on, on the MVP. Is there any chance there's a glitch where the MVP either isn't turning off properly or perhaps isn't closing the network connection properly? Any way I can help test this?

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Old 02-26-2007, 07:50 PM
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Just checked it, and it converted just fine. Got no errors, and the file plays in sync.

This was a HDHR TS file, converted to DVD+AC3 audio.

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It usually runs to 20 something percent, and then next time I check it will show up as failed.

As far as file names, I use the existing file name, but have them put into a COMPRESSED folder that's within my Sage folder.
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I found one HDHR recording that I could convert to DVD ready MPEG. I took another recording that would not convert and tried to run it through VideoReDo Quick Stream Fix. VRD said the .ts was not valid because it was missing the "PAT". The recording that did convert ran through VRD without problems.

I will debug this more tomorrow (sick kid tonight....) but it is starting to look to me like a HDHR issue or maybe something specific to Sage and the HDHR.

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