QAM Support using WinTV-HVR-1600

[MickBurke]

I've been using SAGE TV 6 for a while and 5 before that. Works great with the 5 analog tuners I've got. I'm not terribly familiar with QAM, but am looking at getting the updated Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600 which has QAM support, and I'm wondering if it will work with SAGETV?

Any info and or backgrounder that anyone can offer is much appreciated! Thanks.

Mick

[Opus4]

The SageTV System Requirements page has a recently updated list of supported tuners. Scroll down a ways to see the 2 tuners you can use for QAM in Windows. (The Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600 is not one of them.)

- Andy

[farfromuman]

I was just reading a story on engadget that hauppauge added QAM support to HVR-1600, I wonder if Sage will support it?


http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/18...al-tuner-card/

[nyle]

Originally Posted by farfromuman

I was just reading a story on engadget that hauppauge added QAM support to HVR-1600, I wonder if Sage will support it?


http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/18...al-tuner-card/

I hate to say me too but me too. I'm looking at new tuner cards for dual tuner support and ATSC with QAM is also interesting.

[hemicuda]

i'd assume QAM would require a hardware change to support the format? have to make sure if you get one that it's the latest hardware rev.

edit: cool, only 26 more posts to go

[Yooper]

Hauppauge has posted a beta driver for the 1600 that provides QAM support.

It is available here; (need to scroll down or select the beta tab)

http://www.hauppage.com/pages/suppor...t_hvr1600.html

It appears that it only works for certain models of this card.

I have one of these cards, plus the HDHomeRun. That would give me 3 QAM sources!

[SprDtyF350]

I have one of the model #s Hauppauge says works. It does receive channels straight from the cable with the QAM driver. The HD channels stutter using the WinTv app unless I pause the channel for a few seconds then play it. It scanned for what seemed forever and found a long list but they all were listed as Qam1 Qam2, etc. Kinda hard to figure out what they are. I only tried it with the WinTV application from Hauppauge. Hopefully Sage makes this more usable.

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by Opus4

The SageTV System Requirements page has a recently updated list of supported tuners. Scroll down a ways to see the 2 tuners you can use for QAM in Windows. (The Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600 is not one of them.)

- Andy

Any word when Sage might support the HVR-1600 with the new QAM driver?

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by SprDtyF350

Any word when Sage might support the HVR-1600 with the new QAM driver?

I didn't realize that was a new ability for the 1600... it still may not be possible at all to use it that way in SageTV, but I'll have to ask if the way Hauppauge did it could allow it to work with SageTV.

- Andy

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by Opus4

I didn't realize that was a new ability for the 1600... it still may not be possible at all to use it that way in SageTV, but I'll have to ask if the way Hauppauge did it could allow it to work with SageTV.

- Andy

Sub.. who is the the guy that designed GBPVR had this to say...

"Hauppauge have supplied me the info I need for this, so this should be something available in the next release."

So I'm hoping if GBPVR can do it, so can Sage...

[snipeman]

This would be idea if Sage would support unencrypted QAM with this card!

I'm running a Hauppauge WINTV 350 single tuner I bought from Frey in 2003. I've been dreaming of a 2nd tuner for a while now. I've been a little nervous to delve into all the potential compatibility issues with two different versions of WinTV cards in the same system. I've read many success stories, but plenty of failures too.

If I could upgrade my card to the 1600 and have one of its tuners do basic cable, and the other unencrypted QAM cable, I'd be in heaven!

[SHS]

i'd assume QAM would require a hardware change to support the format? have to make sure if you get one that it's the latest hardware rev.

No require hardware change it the same as ATSC
The key requirement is you must have XP or Vista and must have certain models HVR 1600 with the Product codes 74021 Retail and 74041 MCE model list on the Tuner Sticker.
Bear in mind that still in testing

It scanned for what seemed forever and found a long list but they all were listed as Qam1 Qam2, etc. Kinda hard to figure out what they are.

SprDtyF350 it scan all channel and see what there, you need go thur the list and manuel del the non working blank encrypted channel from the list.

[hemicuda]

SHS-

if it requires certain product codes to function, doesn't that possibly indicate some form of hardware difference between the various models? my limited education in the matter tells me that if it were a software issue that any of the cards should do it.

sort of like when CC became available on SD cards w/ just a driver update. nothing in the hardware changed so any rev card would do it.

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by hemicuda

SHS-

if it requires certain product codes to function, doesn't that possibly indicate some form of hardware difference between the various models? my limited education in the matter tells me that if it were a software issue that any of the cards should do it.

sort of like when CC became available on SD cards w/ just a driver update. nothing in the hardware changed so any rev card would do it.

From what I can tell the non MCE versions work, and the MCE version doesn't. They don't look the same..

This one is supposed to work..
http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_inf...tsc-pci-retail

This one is not supposed to work..
http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_inf...c-pci-whitebox

[SHS]

Yes there a hardware difference in the tuner them self but I thougth they REF to System requirements like ASTC and QAM System requirements.
SprDtyF350 74031 LF and 74051 LF are not support.

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by SHS

Yes there a hardware difference in the tuner them self but I thougth they REF to System requirements like ASTC and QAM System requirements.
SprDtyF350 74031 LF and 74051 LF are not support.

Yep, I have a 74021 and it works.. Non MCE type..

[SHS]

Ok here why
The model 74031 was manufactured before they were able to do QAM. Once QAM worked, They just built all new retail boards with this feature.

The model 74551 was developed for a Media Center OEM customer. Since Media Center does not do QAM, they didn't want QAM enabled. That's why the 74551 never got the extra chips needed to add QAM.

[Armondole]

Originally Posted by SprDtyF350

Yep, I have a 74021 and it works.. Non MCE type..

Same here... works very well.

HD is nice on this card as well, but I only get one channel in Ottawa.

I haven't tried the card with Sage at all.

[dpackham]

ok installed the new drivers, but I only have analog comcast cable. I did a scan with the wintv app and found no QAM channels. might they have a filter installed that would restrict me from getting these? OTA works fine

Dave P

[SprDtyF350]

Originally Posted by dpackham

ok installed the new drivers, but I only have analog comcast cable. I did a scan with the wintv app and found no QAM channels. might they have a filter installed that would restrict me from getting these? OTA works fine

Dave P

That's all I have too.. Did ya hook a cable to the ATSC input? Did ya go to the sources tab and scan for Clear QAM?? Did ya give it plenty of time? Mine took awhile, and most of the channels were in the upper end (last to scan). I did not find any QAM channels on the normal scan that does the analog and digital stuff. Had to go to the sources tab and scan for Clear QAM... Then I got about 30.

Hope it works...

Oh, I also have Comcast internet. So if you don't I suppose it is possible they may have it filtered..