STV Import: SageMC Video Tools v3.0

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by mickp

Damn. Any chance of having it ready for Christmas?

Mick.

It might actually be working now, I just haven't had the time to test it out (its a real pain to verify )

How about this, i'll give it a quick once over, enable it in the next release and then people who want to use it can help me debug it by using it and reporting issues?

[TechBill]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

It might actually be working now, I just haven't had the time to test it out (its a real pain to verify )

How about this, i'll give it a quick once over, enable it in the next release and then people who want to use it can help me debug it by using it and reporting issues?

Yes it a great idea and you can count me in to help debug it and report any issue found!

Bill

[evilpenguin]

A HandBrake dev did a little digging into our HDTV issue and seems to have isolated the cause. I'll keep an eye out for the fix (he said it'd take a bit) and try and get working build asap.

[toricred]

That would be great. My last compression using mencoder took 6 hours to encode a 1 hour show. HB seems to be taking about 40 minutes for the same show.

[mickp]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

It might actually be working now, I just haven't had the time to test it out (its a real pain to verify )

How about this, i'll give it a quick once over, enable it in the next release and then people who want to use it can help me debug it by using it and reporting issues?

Woot. That would be great.

Thanks E.P.

Mick.

[evilpenguin]

Change list-

• Note: I added some features to SageMC_169_ep.xml as well so you'll need to start off with my new one as your base.
• Feature: Enabled DVD burning
• Feature: Added Commercial Cutting for compressed videos
• Feature: ReAdded way more awesome autocrop thanks to comskip
• Feature: Added AutoEncode profile which basically inspects the video sets the encoding options based off of that (more on this below)
• Feature: Added "Wait for Comskip" and "Wait for Archived" to Auto-Compress favorites options (thanks JREkiwi!)
• Feature: MKV now works for mencoder
• Feature: AAC 5.1 audio now works for Mencoder
• Profile Enhancement: Added ability to set CLI switches from within profiles (this is how the AutoEncode profile works)
• Profile Enhancement: Added ability to inspect the video properties of temporary videos in the encoding process and make encoding decisions based off of this (this is how AAC 5.1 profile works)
• Bugfix: If you try and pass Handbrake a video it can't handle it will automatically be passed to mencoder
• Known Issue – Handbrake still can't handle HDTV-PS videos, but they've isolated the problem and will patch it when they get a chance.
• Known Issue – Commercial cutting only when compressing to .avi
• Known Issue – I forgot about commercial cutting in video DVD's

[evilpenguin]

# Profile: AutoEncode
#
# Automagically encode content
#

    Encode CLI #1     =/twoPass<&>/mp3<&>/x264<&>/autoCrop
    Encoder #1        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #3     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~x1080<:>/deinterlace<&><?
    Encoder #3        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #2     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&!ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<:>/deinterlace<&>/deNoise<&><?
    Encoder #2        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #4     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<:>/verticalScale<&>688<&><?
    Encoder #4        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #5     =?>(>(>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<)||!ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg||ORIGINAL:audioCodec=~ac3<)&&!isDVD<:>Mencoder<=>HandBrake<?
    Encoder #5        =insertFunction
    Output Mode       =

Here's an example of the awesome kind of things you can do with profile files. As you can see above, the profile checks the video properties and sets the options the same way I would do it by hand. If you don't like these defaults, all you have to do is open this file and modify it

# Profile: AutoEncode
#
# Automagically encode content
#

    Encode CLI #1     =/onePass<&>/aac<&>/x264<&>/autoCrop<&>/mkv
    Encoder #1        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #3     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~x1080<:>/deinterlace<&><?
    Encoder #3        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #2     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&!ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<:>/deinterlace<&>/deNoise<&><?
    Encoder #2        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #4     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080)<:>/verticalScale<&>720<&><?
    Encoder #4        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #5     =?>(>(>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<)||!ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg||ORIGINAL:audioCodec=~ac3<)&&!isDVD<:>Mencoder<=>HandBrake<?
    Encoder #5        =insertFunction
    Output Mode       =

[toricred]

I see the new setting for "Wait for comskip file." Is this waiting for a .txt file or just one created by comskip (maybe the edl file)?

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by toricred

I see the new setting for "Wait for comskip file." Is this waiting for a .txt file or just one created by comskip (maybe the edl file)?

It waits for a txt or edl file which would indicate that your commercial detection method is finished.

[toricred]

I also don't see the setting to turn on/off commercial removal. Is this tied to the same setting?

By the way, the folder that holds the work files now has several spreadsheets (I'm using autoencode) is it related to the autocrop?

[evilpenguin]

This was asked on MissingRemote so I thought i'd answer it here.

Is there any chance of getting this ported to the standard Sage STV?

The main reason I haven't ported anything over to the Standard Sage STV yet is that I simply don't use it so its (selfishly) a very low priority for me.

Aside from that, there are technical hurdles in adding it to the Standard STV as it currently relies heavily on hooks in the base SageMC that Dirk was generous enough to provide to me.

The only other option (which I greatly prefer) is for Sage to generic up their compression system a ton so that it would be able to call alternate encoding apps such as this.

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by toricred

I also don't see the setting to turn on/off commercial removal. Is this tied to the same setting?

Commercial cutting can now be set in the advanced compression options menu.

Originally Posted by toricred

By the way, the folder that holds the work files now has several spreadsheets (I'm using autoencode) is it related to the autocrop?

Yep, my new method for detecting crop is to create ten evenly spaced 10 second clips of the video (or if -ss is failing due to a broken, mpg one 10 min clip), running comskip on each of those clips, and finally parsing the detailed .csv files to pull out insanely accurate crop settings.

The reason this works much better than mplayer's -cropDetect or HandBrake's built in autoCrop is that comskip was written to handle noisy mpg's and is able to account for the network logo which may be partly/entirely in the areas that need to be cut.

[toricred]

Am I to assume that Autoencode defaults to removing commercials?

[evilpenguin]

Nope, I'll never turn on commercial cutting by default as my comskip files are still only accurate ~90% of the time. I prefer to encode them, check the comskip file, and if its good enough use the mencoderCommCut profile to remove the commercials from the .avi. If the commercials are really messed up, but I still want to cut them, i'll go in and fix the edl file by hand.

However, there's nothing stopping you from creating a custom AutoEncode profile that has it set by default

[toricred]

How do I get the auto encode to use the x264 TV profile and only one pass?

[CadErik]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Change list-

• [B]
• Note: I added some features to SageMC_169_ep.xml as well so you'll need to start off with my new one as your base.

Terrific news! I have some blank DVDs ready here :-)
(I'll try with a RW first though...)

Any chances your changes could make it to the next official SageMC?

Erik.

[evilpenguin]

@ toricred

Just change the first line of AutoEncode.profile to read...

# Profile: AutoEncode
#
# Automagically encode content
#

    Encode CLI #1     =/onePass<&>/mp3<&>/x264<&>/autoCrop<&>/TV
    Encoder #1        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #3     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~x1080<:>/deinterlace<&><?
    Encoder #3        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #2     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&!ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<:>/deinterlace<&>/deNoise<&><?
    Encoder #2        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #4     =?>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080)<:>/verticalScale<&>720<&><?
    Encoder #4        =setOptions
    Encode CLI #5     =?>(>(>ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg&&ORIGINAL:videoResolution=~(x1080|x720)<)||!ORIGINAL:videoContainer=~mpeg||ORIGINAL:audioCodec=~ac3<)&&!isDVD<:>Mencoder<=>HandBrake<?
    Encoder #5        =insertFunction
    Output Mode       =

More info @ http://perl2dvd.wiki.sourceforge.net/Profile+Files

[xj-boonie]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Nope, I'll never turn on commercial cutting by default as my comskip files are still only accurate ~90% of the time. I prefer to encode them, check the comskip file, and if its good enough use the mencoderCommCut profile to remove the commercials from the .avi. If the commercials are really messed up, but I still want to cut them, i'll go in and fix the edl file by hand.

However, there's nothing stopping you from creating a custom AutoEncode profile that has it set by default

I know this is probably the wrong place to ask, and I never cared till now, but how does one check the comskip file? (or even know if it's being made?)

Thanks,
Mike

Downloading the plugin as we speak...

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by xj-boonie

I know this is probably the wrong place to ask, and I never cared till now, but how does one check the comskip file? (or even know if it's being made?)

Thanks,
Mike

Downloading the plugin as we speak...

By that I mean just load it up in Sage and see how it looks. Even without watching the show you can pretty much tell when comskip was successful, and when it had a few problems.

For instance, every once and a while one commercial from a commercial break will be flagged as part of the show and you can see that as a commercial block with a little hole in it. Another common one is the opening of a show being too short and as such lumped in with the first commercial break.

All and all, for a 30 minute show, cutting commercials only save ~100 mb when compressing at 1500 kbs. And for my money that's not worth risking ruining a recording by a bad auto-cut.

[TechBill]

I downloaded SageMC_VideoTools_v3_0f.exe and extracted it to SageTV folder then went to Load STV (not Import STVi) SageMC_169_ep.xml.

After loading it, I went to SageMC Extra and it's blank. There no setup menu for video tool in it.

Any idea what I may have missed?

Thank you
Bill